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Does anyone else feel like Kit Kat is a very buggy OS and not ready for release?

I love my new nexus 5. The hardware is amazing. But it stops there. Kit Kat is complete junk. Keeps on crashing. Things like YouTube doesn't even work correctly. My signal keeps dropping. So many features missing. It just feels like Google rushed in making the latest version. Anyone else feel this way?
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Nope. Everything works smooth and fast for me
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99% of the time all is good BUT you know this is a NEXUS device?! We are the beta testers. There will be issues.

nope.. nexus 5 plus kitkat make the killer android experience..

Everything works well to me, no problems, i think that it's definitely better than JB 4.3.
I come from a Gnex.

I've actually found that apps like Facebook and anything that requires scrolling really works much more smoothly on the Nexus 5. In terms of the OS, I must say I haven't really enountered any bugs myself, apart from Google Services using up 30% of my battery.. but I think I have fixed that now. I am really happy, and so is my 41 year old mother that has one too :silly:

I've had none of those problems.

I too have yet to find a bug. I admit that I do expect bugs, but not really found one yet,.

everything very nice here thank you

My only issue with Kit Kat and the Nexus 5 has been with Location Reporting - other than that Kit Kat feels slick and polished. Haven't experienced anything you of the issues you complained about.

Overall it's been great. Very fast and smooth.
YouTube and Google Now are the only things giving me problems so far. Google Now is worse on KitKat for me.

No issues so far

I've no problems so far. It has captured bug reports at times, but for what I never checked. Feels like an upgrade to jelly bean for me.

Ben36 said:
Nope. Everything works smooth and fast for me
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Try doing a force media scan. I bet the process will crash...
Try changing radio bands via *#*#4636*#*# under phone information menu. i bet i will crash...
try selecting an mp3 as alarm ring-tone.. using the app best alarm you cant were as before with jelly bean you could...
try watching netflix without earbuds... you can barely hear it..!
the phone over heats when using wireless charging pads.
exchange processes crash all the time
spontaneous reboots galore
speakerphone sound just sucks
colors are washed out...
if its true that this is a phone for beta testers, the Google shouldn't market it for the main stream buyers like me. i just want a nice phone (hardware wise this phone is) that works...
returning the Nexus 5 today and going back to Samsung even if it costs double the money. My galaxy s2 lasted me around 3 years and cant complain about it...

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Try doing a force media scan. I bet the process will crash...- Never had to do this before
Try changing radio bands via *#*#4636*#*# under phone information menu. i bet i will crash... - That's been broken since 4.1 IIRC
try selecting an mp3 as alarm ring-tone.. using the app best alarm you cant were as before with jelly bean you could... - Using Sleep as Android I can select an mp3 just fine. Seems that app hasn't been optimized for 4.4. That isn't the phones fault.
try watching netflix without earbuds... you can barely hear it..! - No issues here
the phone over heats when using wireless charging pads. - Never used one
exchange processes crash all the time - I've had no crashes
spontaneous reboots galore - Never even had one random reboot.
speakerphone sound just sucks - Speaker is perfectly fine on my end. Coming from an S3, it's a huge step up
colors are washed out... - No, they're not. They're a more accurate reproduction than AMOLED panels or other oversaturated displays.
if its true that this is a phone for beta testers, the Google shouldn't market it for the main stream buyers like me. i just want a nice phone (hardware wise this phone is) that works...
returning the Nexus 5 today and going back to Samsung even if it costs double the money. My galaxy s2 lasted me around 3 years and cant complain about it...
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Responses in bold. Maybe you should re flash the stock image and see if that fixes any of your problems. I have literally had NONE of the problems you mentioned. And this screen destroys the S3s in every single way.
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I've no problems so far. It has captured bug reports at times, but for what I never checked. Feels like an upgrade to jelly bean for me.
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That happens when you push vol up + vol down + power at the same time. There are a lot of issues with cases making this happen. Still trying to find a way to disable it.

ive had force closes. but whatever. it's a very nice phone.

No issue for now whit stock rom, very few FC with custom rom, fine by me

Not at all. Polar opposite. It's the most polished android os yet imo
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Well, my issues are:
a) Screen wakes for no apparent reason from time to time. Cannot pinpoint a trigger.
b) Google Services using plenty of battery, as well as just last night, on airplane mode, 11% 'Device Idle' usgae in 7 hours.
c) Sound on video recordings is EFFED.
Other than these, overall I am happy. I am confident updates will fix these.

jzsax1 said:
Try doing a force media scan. I bet the process will crash...
Try changing radio bands via *#*#4636*#*# under phone information menu. i bet i will crash...
try selecting an mp3 as alarm ring-tone.. using the app best alarm you cant were as before with jelly bean you could...
try watching netflix without earbuds... you can barely hear it..!
the phone over heats when using wireless charging pads.
exchange processes crash all the time
spontaneous reboots galore
speakerphone sound just sucks
colors are washed out...
if its true that this is a phone for beta testers, the Google shouldn't market it for the main stream buyers like me. i just want a nice phone (hardware wise this phone is) that works...
returning the Nexus 5 today and going back to Samsung even if it costs double the money. My galaxy s2 lasted me around 3 years and cant complain about it...
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not for beta testers per se... but nexus started as development phones and kinda a guide for manufacturers. samsung never followed that guide which has made the development communities rather frustrated, but why should they, samsung make cpu's that do more per clock cycle than the competition, unless you buy a usa phone where they just use the same processors as the competition.
samsung makes fantastic hardware. if i had an i9100 with nfc i'd be using it today with it's low res screen and all. perfect phone. not too big, and basically defined all phones after it, from nfc, to usb OTG, to mhl. it was a great phone then they went all crazy with the rom on the s3 and s4.
even the samsung nexus phones weren't quite what their own line were.
the nexus brand is a bare feature set that manufacturers can work from. and lg makes a pretty piss poor build quality (opinion, some say the same about samsung, those people are wrong of coarse ), but i like the feature set without it getting gimmicky (but s-beam is cool, makes more sense to use wifi with nfc being more of a trigger, android beam seems like they missed out on something pretty obvious.) it's not a bad phone but not a ground breaking device either. the screen does wash out with viewing angle more than some other lcd type screens but for $350 did you expect pixel density as well as a high qulity panel? and maybe you are used to amoled, i am, but i think the nexus screen looks as it should. the phone is delicate, the camera firmware needs work.. these are all true things. but some of what you describe is probably cause for an RMA. the speaker, that's a build defect. not all of them are like that and mine is as loud as any phone i ever owned (louder actually but i never had a "one") so there are 2 things you can cross out because they may take it under warranty. my phone doesn't over heat on my samsung Qi charger, it work perfectly, there is slight heating but that is expected for putting an inductive coil on osmetihng that contains metal parts... no overheating on mine, just comfortable warmth.... are you using a cheap charger? there is a communication standard that is part of QI and the phone regulates the transmitter output with feedback, it's possible that some of the cheap chargers aren't following the Qi standards. as far as the alarm app not working, well it's a new os, interfaces change, things break, deal with it untill the market place catches up. that's like upgrading windows and the printer stops working... if the phone reboots it may be a hardware defect, you should RMA the phone or i'm sure someone will buy it from you.

Do you suggest to buy the S2 to anyone...? (survey)

NO!!! It is not a watch....
There are too much bugs\lacking of functionality...
List of hard bug or lacking of base functionality:
1) the alarm doens't go
2) the watch have NO SOUND ALARM!!!! (340 Euro for this watch?!? Why?!?)
3) the watch ha NO SLEEP TRACKING (340 Euro for this watch?!? Why?!?)
4) The WiFi Connection doesn't connect with WEP cryptography (while it does before the update)
5) During the night the watch light randomly with unuseful battery consumption: we need a robust night locking system.
GS
Italy

1) never happened to me
2)even if it did, it wouldn't be loud enough, so I don't care
3)it's a gimmick just like the heart rate sensor, so I don't care either
4)I'm surprised it even has wifi, not that I'll ever use it.
5)no it doesn't

So this isn't really a survey, just a pointless new thread to moan about things you don't like personally with the watch.
Like Jacongong says above:
1) never happened to me
2) you should have known this before you bought it. Use your phone for an audible alarm
3)it's a gimmick which nobody uses. I'm sure someone will make an app soon though.
4) Never noticed the issue. I'm sure there'll be a fix soon enough for you.
5)no it doesn't

Yes, this could be a suervey...
Say simple if you suggest to buy the Gear S2 to a your friend...
If you don't suggest say why...
Since now there are
1 no
2 yes
I said why no...
About faulty alarm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s2/help/gear-s2-alarm-troubles-t3265029
Thanks for the answers
GS
ITALY

My opinion is, that the Gear S2 is really recommendable!
1.) The alarm is working fine and if you like to be woken up gently (and want to wear the watch also at night) its a very nice gimmick.
2.) I also don't need a speaker, the watch in my eyes is not a phone replacement but more an extension to make short and common processes more comfortable like quick answering an SMS while holding or getting out your phone would be difficult in some way.
3.) Maybe theres nosleep tracking with S Health but as far as I know theres some companion app for Sleep As Android already out in the wild.
4.) I connected already to several WiFi access points and never had any problems, if there are real important situations, you can always get a connection through the phone or use the phone itself ^.^
5.) Never had this issue. Switching the watch into blocking mode when I go to sleep.
There's only one point, maybe a charger in another form factor (flat, so you can push it under the watch when wearing) would be interesting. But there are always moments like when you are in the shower to give the watch a quick charge .
So in summary its a very interesting concept and I like the way Samsung designed the S2. It's a new step in the right direction but nevertheless it will ever be up to you.

1) Like everyone else, alarm works fine for me
2) Why not just use your phone for a sound alarm? The speaker would be much louder anyway
3) As @Silberpfeil3110 said, Sleep for Android
4) My wifi works fine. And wifi's not the main method of connection on this watch, it only takes over if a bluetooth connection isn't available.
5) I turn my watch off at night (saves quite a bit of battery). If the watch lights up randomly then it's probably because it's probably thought it's picked up movement.
tl;dr yes I would recommend this watch, especially the Classic

- The alarm is faulty, as tested from other people. And thanks to HiroboFreak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s2/help/gear-s2-alarm-troubles-t3265029/page2) the cause seems to be in a wrong management of the deep sleep condition... (please Samsung patch it!!!)
- I repeat that is needed a more robust night locking system: this morning my watch was on watchface settings mode!!! (please Samsung patch it!!!) The bezel should be locked on demand...
By the way, I want to punctualize that I LOVE THIS SMARTWATCH, and for this reason I cannot accept this faulty behaviours on base functionality...
Please, Samsung, you are really near to the target: make a last effort...
GS
Italy

OK, my POV is that this watch is best to date money can buy. Only thing doesn`t work for me is weather app auto update

I do love these threads about how crappy these watches are when no one else is having these issues.

jhonjey66 said:
NO!!! It is not a watch....
There are too much bugs\lacking of functionality...
List of hard bug or lacking of base functionality:
1) the alarm doens't go
2) the watch have NO SOUND ALARM!!!! (340 Euro for this watch?!? Why?!?)
3) the watch ha NO SLEEP TRACKING (340 Euro for this watch?!? Why?!?)
4) The WiFi Connection doesn't connect with WEP cryptography (while it does before the update)
5) During the night the watch light randomly with unuseful battery consumption: we need a robust night locking system.
GS
Italy
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Dude, please seek professional help. You are pathologically excitable over utter trivialities.
Yes, there are some bugs. Does that surprise you, wearing a computing system complete with scads of sensors, network connection, etc., far more powerful and complex than anything that sat on your desk 20 years ago, has bugs?
A few months into release this is not surprising, or cataclysmic at all. And, in the bigger picture of all the functions and capabilities of this watch, these bugs you're complaining about are small things. Sure, if you had bought a nightstand alarm clock and it wasn't working, I'd be backing you.
However, you're screaming (in ALL CAPS) that the vibrating alarm on a smartwatch has a bug so you can't use it to wake you up. As others have pointed out, with you phone right there, capable of yelling at you with SOUND.
If you bought this watch to wake you up in the morning, the problem is not with the buggy alarm on the watch.
All the critical "smartwatch" function work, and work well. Messaging is a delight on this device. It even handles MMS messages smoothly. I have the 3G version, and all the calling features, remote connection, etc. works flawlessly. I just added the new HUE lighting control app from Philippe, and my new Christmas present of HUE lighting is actually really usable.
There's so much awesome about this watch to scream at the top of your lungs because of the relatively small matters you are is unhinged. All these things will be fixed in the coming months. Relax, work around these small problems, and enjoy the device as a smartwatch.

Do I suggest this watch to someone? Quite a matter of taste. Main pros are design, build quality and battery life, but lack of functionality leaves much to desire.
Bugs are almost gone after latest update. There is one annoying bug with weather auto update.

I suggest it because , between android wear watches and this , this is the only that seems really a classic watch . And the controller it s the best ... About apps and price , probably i could say to buy an other watch full android like the k8 or the no.1 d5 .. Really cheaper than a moto 360 and they have all apps of a smartphone . I don t see the quality buying 350 euros of a moto 360 or lg urbane (1 ) respect to no.1 or something like that ...

100% not suggest to buy it, I bought it as a gift for my wife in Hong Kong, but when she back to canada she cannot install anything from the samsung app store anymore, also the S2's clock/weather/location always say that she is in Vitenam instead of canada. Last time after firmware update it also have a serious battery drain, need to do a factory reset to solve it when. The S2 firmware/software is too buggy, even the gear manager app on phone is not so good.
Tested on Nexus 5 and Note 5, S6 edge.
p.s. about the cannot install app/blank app store issue, there are lot of complain on internet.

S2 Classic here.
I bought it for myself as a birthday gift. I've had mine for less than a week now, but love it. I've had a ton of fun with all of the watch faces, and am even trying to create a few of my own.
Would it be cool if it had an actual sound alarm? Maybe, but it's not a deal breaker. I would only use the alarm to remind me of things, and the vibration is strong enough that I notice it when it's going off. I have never relied on a watch to wake me up, and never will. Once I get sleeping, it takes something louder to get me going.
I don't really care about more apps. So far, I haven't used much app related on it. It's just a nice, customizable watch that alerts me of things.
My only real wish for it would be a longer lasting battery. Whenever I turn it on, I have myself thinking about the battery and how what I'm going to do will affect it. In that way, it sort of reminds me of my old Sprint Evo. I could watch the battery drop on that thing, and I can on this as well.
That said, I'm probably going to return this one and wait for the platinum one to come out. If I'd known about it, I'd have just waited and bought one of those. It looks really nice. One of my biggest concerns about this one is that the finish on the watch might not last I'm not sure exactly how it's applied, but I can definitely see it chipping, scratching, or just rubbing off over time.

usmaak said:
S2 Classic here.
I bought it for myself as a birthday gift. I've had mine for less than a week now, but love it. I've had a ton of fun with all of the watch faces, and am even trying to create a few of my own.
Would it be cool if it had an actual sound alarm? Maybe, but it's not a deal breaker. I would only use the alarm to remind me of things, and the vibration is strong enough that I notice it when it's going off. I have never relied on a watch to wake me up, and never will. Once I get sleeping, it takes something louder to get me going.
I don't really care about more apps. So far, I haven't used much app related on it. It's just a nice, customizable watch that alerts me of things.
My only real wish for it would be a longer lasting battery. Whenever I turn it on, I have myself thinking about the battery and how what I'm going to do will affect it. In that way, it sort of reminds me of my old Sprint Evo. I could watch the battery drop on that thing, and I can on this as well.
That said, I'm probably going to return this one and wait for the platinum one to come out. If I'd known about it, I'd have just waited and bought one of those. It looks really nice. One of my biggest concerns about this one is that the finish on the watch might not last I'm not sure exactly how it's applied, but I can definitely see it chipping, scratching, or just rubbing off over time.
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How do you think would the platinum version enhance your user experience?
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How do you think would the platinum version enhance your user experience?
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I've seen the pictures and think that it looks nicer. I like more metallic looking watches. The S2 was never an option for me, because I did not want to deal with the rubber watch bands. That's why I chose the classic. If they had all three of them lined up, I'd have chosen the platinum one.
Of course if it's a lot more expensive, I'll probably just stick with the one I've got now.

jhonjey66 said:
NO!!! It is not a watch....
There are too much bugs\lacking of functionality...
List of hard bug or lacking of base functionality:
1) the alarm doens't go
2) the watch have NO SOUND ALARM!!!! (340 Euro for this watch?!? Why?!?)
3) the watch ha NO SLEEP TRACKING (340 Euro for this watch?!? Why?!?)
4) The WiFi Connection doesn't connect with WEP cryptography (while it does before the update)
5) During the night the watch light randomly with unuseful battery consumption: we need a robust night locking system.
GS
Italy
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What a stupid rant. You call that a survey?
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barondebxl said:
What a stupid rant. You call that a survey?
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Yes... and it is very simple: do you suggest to buy this smartwacth to a friend of yours?
If NO please justify...
Thanks
GS
ITALY

YES id recommend it totally love this watch and playing with the gear designer

I would actually, it feels, looks, responds, basically everything's better that my old Gear 2. Battery is also great, Had mine running 5 days straight at minimal usage.

Bluetooth Audio Stutter

Please please help me - this is driving me nuts...
When playing back audio 90% of the time i will get an awful stuttering... it seems fine if i use wired audio
Sometimes it will work just fine, but most of the time it's really bad
I found somewhere online that seemed to link it to wifi scanning - i tried turning this off and it worked briefly, but then was back to how it was
Also, should probably add, it doesnt seem to matter what app I use - tried Spotify / Deezer / Google Music - all downloaded music
Any ideas?

Try to turn of bluetooth scanning. Go to Settings-> Location-> 3 dots

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Try to turn of bluetooth scanning. Go to Settings-> Location-> 3 dots
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Only tested for a couple of mins (as at my desk), but i think you may have solved it!!
Will update if i spot this issue again in real usage!!

vaderag said:
Only tested for a couple of mins (as at my desk), but i think you may have solved it!!
Will update if i spot this issue again in real usage!!
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It doesn't. My location scanning is off from day one. Bt still stutters every once in a while.
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millicent said:
It doesn't. My location scanning is off from day one. Bt still stutters every once in a while.
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Darn
So guessing there isn't a solution out there then?

There is a talk.sonymobile.com z5 suite thread on this issue, you might want to follow up hoping for a permanent fix. There are several more or less temporary solutions in the vein of just rebooting, rebooting to safe mode and back, or just clear all apps cache. Few questions for you, is it only aptx headphones or speakers with this issue or even regular bt? Is the stuttering new to MM or was it already in LP too?
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Phone is brand new so only ever used on MM
Rebooting fixed very briefly.
Headphones are not aptx to my knowledge - they were fairly cheap from Amazon, but worked absolutely fine on my last phone, so I know it's not them...

Well, on train now and apart from some very minor stutters (which are barely noticeable) this solution has fixed the issue!
Massive thanks for the suggestion and help!

Turning off location scanning (mine was never on) doesn't help me. I thought the last MM patch fixed it, but I was wrong. Also, I'm having a problem now where devices will connect, but I will simply not get any audio through those devices. I have to reboot the phone for it to work. I've already posted in sonymobile, but this'll do it. Anyone want to buy a mint condition green Z5?

So I maybe spoke too soon. It is definitely better, but not perfect... Def got a few serious crackles on the way home. I can probably live with it if it stays like this tho

The real solution is to keep posting on that relevant sonymobile thread and thus let Sony know we're not happy with this ongoing issue.
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Yep, def not fixed. Certainly miles better tho.
It's weird - it sounds like it's a strain issue (I.e. too many things running)/but I can be playing Lara Croft for 20mins with music and no stutter, but be messaging on WhatsApp and have it. Very very odd.
Will def post on the Sony Forums

Which one to choose? B09 or BX9

Hey guys, I've finally decided to buy Huawei watch 2 (Hard choice between LG watch sport and Misfit vapor).
in my country there's only HW2 sport in store and no classic version
So I want to ask you which variation, BX9 or B09, is the better one to choose? is there any difference?
does any of them support simcard?
I want the English version and the one which gets better updates and support(if the updates are different!!)

Kianush said:
Hey guys, I've finally decided to buy Huawei watch 2 (Hard choice between LG watch sport and Misfit vapor).
in my country there's only HW2 sport in store and no classic version
So I want to ask you which variation, BX9 or B09, is the better one to choose? is there any difference?
does any of them support simcard?
I want the English version and the one which gets better updates and support(if the updates are different!!)
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Don't buy any HW2. I have HW2 sport and I'll be happy when I sell this.
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strekib said:
Don't buy any HW2. I have HW2 sport and I'll be happy when I sell this.
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Would you explain you reasons? Or give me other options? Thanks

Kianush said:
Would you explain you reasons? Or give me other options? Thanks
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App by Huawei to making sport report is fine but not have export to others like Endomondo and other. Only Google fit but with trouble. Endomondo you can install but heart rate is not good. GPS on sport app on about 2 minutes. Google maps not navigate without phone but I have version with SIM and data connection. Horrible. It's Google wear 2. Mass storage not exist in wear 2. Music I must sync by Google music via WiFi but very slowly. Memory optimalizition of task is very bad. Every week I must watch restart, because not usable. Watch going to slow and slow. I have TomTom runner 2 and I prefer this for sport activities. Better statistic, better GPS, absolutely not problematic export of data. Swimming not problem for Tomtom. Watch 2 after 10km run have from 95% to 20%. GPS, data ,Bluetooth music on. One thing is fine - notification.
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strekib said:
App by Huawei to making sport report is fine but not have export to others like Endomondo and other. Only Google fit but with trouble. Endomondo you can install but heart rate is not good. GPS on sport app on about 2 minutes. Google maps not navigate without phone but I have version with SIM and data connection. Horrible. It's Google wear 2. Mass storage not exist in wear 2. Music I must sync by Google music via WiFi but very slowly. Memory optimalizition of task is very bad. Every week I must watch restart, because not usable. Watch going to slow and slow. I have TomTom runner 2 and I prefer this for sport activities. Better statistic, better GPS, absolutely not problematic export of data. Swimming not problem for Tomtom. Watch 2 after 10km run have from 95% to 20%. GPS, data ,Bluetooth music on. One thing is fine - notification.
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Hmm, thabks for your into
I absolutly love android wear 2 so I cant go for other devices, I also need gps thats why I decided not to buy Vapor(not released yet!) and also watch sport has low battery and if bands get damaged its useless! So only option for now is hw2. i have seen many good reviews its a shame that gps lag on this device as you say... I will wait a little longer then...

Kianush said:
Hmm, thabks for your into
I absolutly love android wear 2 so I cant go for other devices, I also need gps thats why I decided not to buy Vapor(not released yet!) and also watch sport has low battery and if bands get damaged its useless! So only option for now is hw2. i have seen many good reviews its a shame that gps lag on this device as you say... I will wait a little longer then...
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I hope that update watch 2 will made more usable. Full memory and lag of device is worst thing.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on your points. The hw2 classic is spot on with the heart rate monitor. I use it for runs and the gym and it is pretty accurate. The GPS works well and so do the third party apps. Runtastic works well, Strava works well, Endomondo works just fine, Huawei app is really good, and Google fit is good. It's all about your flavor of exercise app. As far as storage, most aw watches lack decent storage. And this watch is blazing fast and lasts two days on a single charge. Seems like you got a bad one. I love this watch so much more than the Moto 360 I had before.

Devolution1x said:
I'm going to have to disagree with you on your points. The hw2 classic is spot on with the heart rate monitor. I use it for runs and the gym and it is pretty accurate. The GPS works well and so do the third party apps. Runtastic works well, Strava works well, Endomondo works just fine, Huawei app is really good, and Google fit is good. It's all about your flavor of exercise app. As far as storage, most aw watches lack decent storage. And this watch is blazing fast and lasts two days on a single charge. Seems like you got a bad one. I love this watch so much more than the Moto 360 I had before.
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Thanks for the info!
I finally ordered HW2 b09 which is wifi only, I wanted to ask you what features will I lose if I leave the phone behind? Because I wont be getting 4g (for example I know that google maps wont work wothout it)

Kianush said:
Thanks for the info!
I finally ordered HW2 b09 which is wifi only, I wanted to ask you what features will I lose if I leave the phone behind? Because I wont be getting 4g (for example I know that google maps wont work wothout it)
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You would be losing access to anything that requires a dedicated internet connection like play music streaming, Spotify streaming, and such. Anything that doesn't need immediate internet is fine.

I use SIM version primary like wearing mobile. When I go to Pub, forest, sport I prefer my watch with duplicated sim card. Without any problem except for battery.
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Hello!
I'm a runner. Because of my job, I need to be available on phone calls. So I decided to try and buy a smart watch.
Is there any smart watch in 2017 with battery life about 5 hours when using the SIM card and GPS turn on (for a single marathon)? I would like to use the Endomondo application. Can anyone help me with the advice?
Thank you!

mercyANDjustice said:
Hello!
I'm a runner. Because of my job, I need to be available on phone calls. So I decided to try and buy a smart watch.
Is there any smart watch in 2017 with battery life about 5 hours when using the SIM card and GPS turn on (for a single marathon)? I would like to use the Endomondo application. Can anyone help me with the advice?
Thank you!
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are you asking your own question in a different question's topic? lol
well, to answer your I have to say my 3000mAh phone wont survive 5 hours on continues 4g usage, let alone a watch with with 400-600mAh battery!

mercyANDjustice said:
Hello!
I'm a runner. Because of my job, I need to be available on phone calls. So I decided to try and buy a smart watch.
Is there any smart watch in 2017 with battery life about 5 hours when using the SIM card and GPS turn on (for a single marathon)? I would like to use the Endomondo application. Can anyone help me with the advice?
Thank you!
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Probably the only watch that would maybe work for you, would be the Samsung Gear S3. Android Wear watches don't come close to the Gear S3's battery life. Only other option would be using an iPhone and the Apple watch. It would probably last the 5 hours.
Let's be clear, you wouldn't be able to talk continuously or stream music for 5 hours. But having GPS on and maybe a very short phone call should be ok. I believe the battery life on the Apple watch is 2 hours of continuous talk time.

step counting accuracy is horrible unless I have a bad model. Count steps and compare to my xioami... it counts double steps!!!
When I disable Huawie apps, step couting in Google fit is fine but then heart rate is broken. This is after latest update!!!!

Time to change device!!

After nearly 2 years I have had enough and will change.
The whole time I had the watch with Huawei P9 > Nokia 8 > Honor View 10 > P30 Pro there have been issues with the bluetooth constantly disconnecting and removing from trusted device unlock.
To happen with all these phones is clearly something wrong with how it connects to Android / bluetooth stack.
I love the watch so put up with constantly going into Wear app and "reconnecting" but now the battery is draining at an insane amount.
At the start I could manage 2 days without charge, now I am charging it before sleep and waking up with 23% left.

you know i guess there might be something wrong with your device because my hw2 always stays connected to my phone and in the past year I have only noticed one or two times of disconnection, and i wear it at least 8 hrs a day.

It most be your watch
I agree with Kianush, must a problem with your watch. I have a Huawei Watch 2 Classic and I've never had those issues. I do charge before going to sleep, but even doing sleep monitoring in the morning I have usually 75% and it lasts thru the day.

As I say battery was very good until recently so maybe it is on it's way out.
The bluetooth has always had disconnection issues for me at random points in the day.
Also seems it can't handle other BT devices connecting to the phone - i.e. earphones or car head unit will make it disconnect and then it will not reconnect and I need to go into Wear app on phone and reconnect which of course means Smart Lock needs to be added again.

shaunydub said:
As I say battery was very good until recently so maybe it is on it's way out.
The Bluetooth has always had disconnection issues for me at random points in the day.
Also seems it can't handle other BT devices connecting to the phone - i.e. earphones or car head unit will make it disconnect and then it will not reconnect and I need to go into Wear app on phone and reconnect which of course means Smart Lock needs to be added again.
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I had always the problem of it disconnecting randomly as well (and I changed a bunch of phones in the meanwhile as well). But, after all, it is still good looking
I bought a fossil gen 5 the other week and I sent it back... It was slightly faster (I recently installed on the HW2 the janjan ROM+KERNEL) but, I couldn't stand how it was looking with a part of the screen that actually was bazel (at least the HW2 fake a big crown ) So, waiting for next-gen or I'll buy a Ticwatch pro LTE that has 1gb of ram as well (processor wise, won't change anything in term of speed) but it has a bigger full screen

mr-mauro said:
I had always the problem of it disconnecting randomly as well (and I changed a bunch of phones in the meanwhile as well). But, after all, it is still good looking
I bought a fossil gen 5 the other week and I sent it back... It was slightly faster (I recently installed on the HW2 the janjan ROM+KERNEL) but, I couldn't stand how it was looking with a part of the screen that actually was bazel (at least the HW2 fake a big crown ) So, waiting for next-gen or I'll buy a tickwatch pro LTE that has 1gb of ram as well but a bigger full screen
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Yes, I like the watch very much but the disconnection issue is just annoying, somedays it never disconnects and other days its every 10 minutes even under the same circumstances.
I decided to try Galaxy Active 2 for now, doesn't look like Huawei will make a HW3 with Wear anytime soon.

shaunydub said:
Yes, I like the watch very much but the disconnection issue is just annoying, somedays it never disconnects and other days its every 10 minutes even under the same circumstances.
I decided to try Galaxy Active 2 for now, doesn't look like Huawei will make a HW3 with Wear anytime soon.
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Galaxy Active 2 is nice and it has faster processor than the snapdragon400-2100-3100 My only concern is the fact that it doesn't run WearOS Let us know how will it work out with Tizen

mr-mauro said:
Galaxy Active 2 is nice and it has faster processor than the snapdragon400-2100-3100 My only concern is the fact that it doesn't run WearOS Let us know how will it work out with Tizen
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Yes, I am also slightly nervous about Tizen but watched a Youtube video of Tizen vs Wear vs Android on several devices and it seems to be very similar in use + I found an app that synchronises data to Google Fit.
However I do use several Android apps on my HW2 such as Keep Notes and Fotmob, plus I like the media controls so I will need to fully test this with my P30 Pro before deciding to keep the Active 2.

So I have had the Galaxy Watch Active 2 for a week now and all I can saw is WOW.
This feels like huge upgrade from Huawei Watch 2 in nearly all areas.
The watch itself feels premium, feels more like a real watch on the arm.
The colours are bright and vivid, the speed the watch operates at puts Wear OS to shame, the speaker is great and so many more options with sound and notifications and pretty much everything.
My initial concern was about the lack of Wear OS store and while I do not have Outlook or Fotmob apps everything works., the main app I miss is Google Keep Notes.
I can control my music on my P30 Pro, I can respond to messages in Whatsapp or SMS with voice or type.
Ok it has Bixby instead of Google Assistant but I never used it and I can achieve some similar results such as "set alarm" etc.
It is the first time I tried a non Wear OS watch and I am pretty surprised by it and can't see how Wear can catch up, it is just too slow and dull in comparison.
Plus it has wireless charging and you can backup the watch ready for if you need to wipe or transfer to new phone.
I loved my HW2 for a long time but now GA2 is the new king (although nothing still has the UV sensor I had on my MS Band 2)

Does anyone have any other idea's about what to upgrade to? I'm not a fan of Tizan, but do we wait for the never appearing Pixel watch? Has anyone else updated since this thread started? If so, what to and how is it?

Apart from Fossil there were no real options hence my semi forced move to Samsung.
I like it and it performs much better but I miss some apps like Keep Notes.
And Bixby is useless.
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