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[Q] Better Web Browser
I'm looking for a web browser for my TF that views pages in actual web form, not as mobile pages.
I think with a screen this size it should be possible, right?
Anybody have any suggestions?
Thanks
Soopafly Incredible said:
I'm looking for a web browser for my TF that views pages in actual web form, not as mobile pages.
I think with a screen this size it should be possible, right?
Anybody have any suggestions?
Thanks
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Skyfire has a desktop mode.
~DC
I use Dolphin, can set user-agent to Desktop.
Some people have suggested Dolphin HD as good replacement for the stock browser. I'm just not clear about your problem? My stock browser displays the webpages as my PC browser would. You can check Settings|Advanced and User agent string.
Hope this helps,
rio
I'm using Dolphin HD and like it better than the stock one.
~DC
I guess maybe I'm missing some steps, or haven't tried a few of them that you've mentioned. Just noticed that in my firefox browser (and also the stock browser) all of the pages (MSN, Facebook) are showing up in their mobile forms.
I'll try a couple of those you mentioned and see if I can find them...Thanks!
try Firefox
rio911 said:
My stock browser displays the webpages as my PC browser would. You can check Settings|Advanced and User agent string.
Hope this helps,
rio
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Do this to stop getting mobile versions!
rio911 said:
Some people have suggested Dolphin HD as good replacement for the stock browser. I'm just not clear about your problem? My stock browser displays the webpages as my PC browser would. You can check Settings|Advanced and User agent string.
Hope this helps,
rio
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Now we just need hulu to acknowledge this!
Dolphin HD
This should be a poll
If you get ADW EX you can adjust the standard (useless) browser widget to 2 columns by 7 rows (looks a lot better), then when you first click on a thumbnail it asks you which browser you wish to use, click your preffered item then you have a custon full size browser of choice widget.
Lately I have been experimenting with different browsers because I am not happy with the stock browser on Honeycomb because it seems to have a lot of issues and slow performance when rendering. I know that a lot of people have been recommending Dolphin Browser HD, and I have tried that alongside Mozilla Firefox. Which browser is everyone else using on their Transformer and how do you like it?
The thing I miss most about the stock browser is the sync with your google chrome bookmarks, so if anyone can suggest how to get that to work with Dolphin Browser or Mozilla, I would appreciate it. Mozilla seems to have the best rendering speed out of the two, however, Dolphin seems to have more features and a better overall interface. Both Dolphin and the stock browser have problems rendering this forum, but Mozilla seems to do it with ease. However, it doesn't seem as though Mozilla is proportioned right for Tablet use yet.
I guess each of the has their positives and negatives, which is why I want to see what everyone else is using and their thoughts.
I use all of them because I don't like any of them. Every one has some problems. The best is probably the stock one, but it doesn't have adblock and when I turn on flash some pages turn into literally hell because of ads. Firefox on the other hand is fast but has very few options and scales images very poorly (this forum looks ugly on it for example). Opera is strange (especcialy the tabs are strange). Dolphin looks like a bloatware.
I hope to see full desktop browser on Android some time. With extensions and such (Firefox mobile extensions are laughable, even adblock doesn't have any options).
to me the stock browser seems more and more like chrome...is it just me?
All Android browsers are really inferior... Right now I go back and forth between stock and Firefox... Don't like either...
stock is as fluid as it gets
I tried Dolphin... but to be frank, it definitely does seem like bloatware. Its overall pretty awful. I keep it installed just because I use it for some websites that the stock one doesn't work properly. But thats rare. And I don't care for it.
People keep saying that Dolphin is "optimised for honeycomb" but I really don't think so. If it were, it'd run a crap ton better.
I use stock. It doesnt always work perfect, and it has its flaws for sure, but its pretty darn fluid, the tabs work great, and its just a clean looking browser.
Stock for browsing and firefox for downloading .zip files
would prefer opera as its my desktop browser of choice but its just terrible atm on android
re browser's
I,d really like to like the stock browser, or dolphin (my usual favourite), but the opera mobile seems currently the only one that has that ipad floaty feel to scrolling. Why cant the others do this?
Dolphin hd beta 5 is awesome
Firefox with adblock is sweet. For watching Flash websites, I use stock or dolphin hd. I like opera too. I guess I will be using all of them as I see fit. That's what I like about android.
Hi,
I have experienced some extreme stutter on some website because of Javascript poor implementation in the stock browser (and also in every Webkit browser like Dolphin HD)
for example accessing the next website (which is a very familiar website and works great on my PC has this issues): http://www.techradar.com/
As soon as I disable JS in the browser settings the scrolling start working great as usuall.
I have also ran Javascript Sunspider test and received a result of 2246ms where in my PC I have received a result of 296ms!
Does anybody else also has this issue and maybe knows how to solve it?
Thank you.
I have not tried this but using Opera may help. They have always been know for having a fast JS engine on the PC anyway.
JS has been known to cause problems with the browsers, it was the reason why they would randomly exit (not FC, just exit). I was extremely surprised to see how much faster web browsing was with JS disabled in Dolphin, but sadly we need it for most websites and there's no way around it that I'm aware of.
I have to say that when I did check the same websites in Opera I didnt experienced any stuttering so I guess that JS issues could be solved one day.
The problem is that I find Opera inferior when comparing it to Dolphin for Pad or when comparing it even to the stock browser.
Wish I could find an all-in-one browser which just would work good and I would not have to switch between browsers when opening particular websites
dimako83 said:
I have to say that when I did check the same websites in Opera I didnt experienced any stuttering so I guess that JS issues could be solved one day.
The problem is that I find Opera inferior when comparing it to Dolphin for Pad or when comparing it even to the stock browser.
Wish I could find an all-in-one browser which just would work good and I would not have to switch between browsers when opening particular websites
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Maybe once firefox fully release thier android browser?
Also if you end up using Dolphin try out the Dolphin for Pad beta. It is the dolphin hd browser but made for tablets. Some people are saying it runs better than the dolphin hd so maybe it is made for tegra devices.
Firefox just looks bad. Its picture rendering abilities is awful.
I am currently using Dolphin for Pad and its a great browser but its based on the same Webkit engine so the same JS problems are still there.
Anyway I have found a way to quickly switch between browsers which helps a little. There is an app in the market called "Browser Switch" - so you can configure that when you click on share in Dolphin for Pad and choose browser switch it immediately opens opera(which does not has Webkit's JS issues) with the requested URL
You think that site is bad...try some Gizmodo's. You can switch to blog view on the main page, but if you click on to another link it reverts to their top story format.silly tablet barely works.
dimako83 said:
Hi,
I have experienced some extreme stutter on some website because of Javascript poor implementation in the stock browser (and also in every Webkit browser like Dolphin HD)
for example accessing the next website (which is a very familiar website and works great on my PC has this issues): http://www.techradar.com/
As soon as I disable JS in the browser settings the scrolling start working great as usuall.
I have also ran Javascript Sunspider test and received a result of 2246ms where in my PC I have received a result of 296ms!
Does anybody else also has this issue and maybe knows how to solve it?
Thank you.
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I have a peculiar problem and i guess, from google search results, that many others have similar problem.
I am using Samsung Galaxy S 2 mobile phone.
Of late, the default Browser application on my samsung galaxy s2 just keeps coming up with the standard "Web page not available" page when I try to connect to any website.
I generally use default browser to access the web and this used to work perfectly. Of late it has developed this problem. I then tried Dolphine, Miren, Skyfire and this also did the same!
All other applications are fine and can connect to the internet perfectly well. Only In browser, which was downloaded prior to this problem, works fine.
So it seems like something is amiss with my settings / files that the default Browser, Dolphin and Skyfire use.
Any ideas?
You can also reach me on [email protected].
Hoping that someone here would be able to resolve this issue.
I usually don't have this problem, because I splashtop for my computer for all webbrowsing normally. I'm out of the house on wifi and splashtop dies, so I'm unable to connect to my computer :/ Then I pop up the stock browser to browse here, and work on my schoolwork (Which is a badly coded flash site x.x) Stock browser refuses to recognize flash (for whatever reason, I reinstalled and still no.) Thats out. Download Dolphin, flash works but, button 'Start class' (javascript) refuses to work, and the pages glitch and are wonky. That's out. Opera, won't recognize flash, out. Google chrome beta, crashes instantly, out. Firefox normal, no flash out. Firefox beta new, no flash for Tegra 2, out. Maxthon (my old fav from ARHD) Same problems as Dolphin... Broken buttons/page layouts. I feel like I'm trying to browse the web on my lg cosmos 2 dinosaur phone with all these app related problems (ok exaggeration but still...) The only one I got to work was Skyfire, but it's bugging the crap out of me with page layout and speed. Is there a browser that can perform exactly the same as a desktop browser does? Or at least load pages properly? It's extremely annoying that pages don't load or layout/flash doesn't work. Ugh. I use mozilla on my computer and it works amazingly connected through splashtop, but I need a backup...
/endrant
Are you stock, non-rooted, etc? Running any custom ROMs or kernels?
I love using dolphin for pad it's really good, fast too.
You can try Boat browser
Dolphin seems to mess up page layout and buttons don't work, but it is the fastest. I don't care about speed.. as much, as having perfectly layed out pages like a desktop browser. I'll check out boat and report back. I'm running Guevor's latest kernel on AOKP b37 euroskank build atm, so yes, rooted rommed cwm whatever's needed.
I know you said that Chrome Beta crashes instantly on your site, but in general it's my go-to browser when something's displaying not-quite correctly on other browsers, since its rendering is derived from desktop Chrome. It works on my university's sites, which are horrible in all of the other browsers I have tried.
If you have a static (or at least infrequently changing) IP address at home, you could try forwarding a port to use Splashtop from anywhere on the internet (expect a performance hit). I do that with Windows' built in Remote Desktop and "Jump Desktop", super useful.
Thanks for the suggestion! I already have that all set up though
It's just kinda slow to use just to quickly look something up, I was hoping that a browser exists that won't super bork webpages.
Hopefully chrome will work in an update
Is there a way to go past the website's UA checks and always load their desktop versions instead of mobile? Asking because I already set in the preferences of all my phone browsers to always load the full desktop version and still, many websites somehow know I'm using a mobile device and force the mobile version.
Anyone found solution for Dolphin or Boat browsers? I've read about "about:debug" and "about:useragent" showing extra UA menu elements which in my case does nothing (android 6). I was also unable to find an user agent switching app that could always force Desktop parameters to the websites.
Even if there's no immefiate solution, I would like to know the principle websites choose which version to load irrespective to browser settings. Is it network/data/service provider settings, or specific browser/resolution signature? Thanks a lot for any ideas.
Menergy said:
Is there a way to go past the website's UA checks and always load their desktop versions instead of mobile? Asking because I already set in the preferences of all my phone browsers to always load the full desktop version and still, many websites somehow know I'm using a mobile device and force the mobile version.
Anyone found solution for Dolphin or Boat browsers? I've read about "about:debug" and "about:useragent" showing extra UA menu elements which in my case does nothing (android 6). I was also unable to find an user agent switching app that could always force Desktop parameters to the websites.
Even if there's no immefiate solution, I would like to know the principle websites choose which version to load irrespective to browser settings. Is it network/data/service provider settings, or specific browser/resolution signature? Thanks a lot for any ideas.
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If the problem is website's UA check, often you can choose an AdWay or something similar, on my phone i'm surprised to see as "auto check" some pop up, check and box.
But for what never stop working, that's need update every day...
There isn't much you can do in this case.
Sometimes in some browsers you've an option with whitelist or other but I do believe they can be related to the mobile display or desktop of a particular site.
Maybe there is an add-on xposed or plugin that I don't know
My problem is that some websites force the mobile version no matter what, as well as lack on services that I need in there, and you couldn't circumvent that in any way.
Yesterday I had to verify an email address and tried with all the browsers I have on my phone (like 5 different). They were all set to display the desktop version and all were forced into the mobile. But on the mobile you couldn't verify the link, probably on purpose (security if on mobile device), and I would not have access to laptop/desktop browser by the evening. The same is with many other features/missing services on forced mobile websites so I want to find a way to have full functionality when on the go.
Does AdWay have options for influencing data the browser notifies to the websites? Anything similar to Mozilla-code based Random Agent Spoofer browser add-on where you can basically force the browser to inject any incorrect data and prevent other data leaking while browsing? Any special cookie mechanisms inherent to mobile browsers only?
Alternatively, can I access browser settings with something like about:config/debug or else? Dolphin, Boat, others? I am sure the browser notifies the correct desktop user agent, there's something else, probably very simple, that tells websites the connection is from a portable device...
Menergy said:
My problem is that some websites force the mobile version no matter what, as well as lack on services that I need in there, and you couldn't circumvent that in any way.
Yesterday I had to verify an email address and tried with all the browsers I have on my phone (like 5 different). They were all set to display the desktop version and all were forced into the mobile. But on the mobile you couldn't verify the link, probably on purpose (security if on mobile device), and I would not have access to laptop/desktop browser by the evening. The same is with many other features/missing services on forced mobile websites so I want to find a way to have full functionality when on the go.
Does AdWay have options for influencing data the browser notifies to the websites? Anything similar to Mozilla-code based Random Agent Spoofer browser add-on where you can basically force the browser to inject any incorrect data and prevent other data leaking while browsing? Any special cookie mechanisms inherent to mobile browsers only?
Alternatively, can I access browser settings with something like about:config/debug or else? Dolphin, Boat, others? I am sure the browser notifies the correct desktop user agent, there's something else, probably very simple, that tells websites the connection is from a portable device...
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I use "user agent switcher" for chrome and it always works. It requires root though.
Can you provide an example of a website that refuses to show the desktop version?
And additionally, your build.prop contains your device's information. The browser might be transmitting that information to the website.
Thank you, the build.prop info was very helpful. I am not rooted yet as I've got my new phone just less than a month ago so still exploring, but can't really find the file, even among the hidden files on the internal memory. I will explore more and see how it goes.
I am in the UK so for example one of the websites that always loads the limited mobile instead of desktop version is the one of my service provider, EE, ee. co. uk (apologies for the intervals, I'm otherwise not allowed to post it). This mobile version is too basic and 60% of what you could do on a desktop version is cut. I've been on Three Mobile and sometimes I could get their full website working, sometimes not. Other websites are let's say bbc. co. uk and other media/news/bank websites that know, no matter browser settings, you are accessing them from a portable device.
Unfortunately I do not trust Google and any of their products so avoid voluntarily and (un)intentionally handing any personal data over to them. I would have used Mozilla for Android if it was close to the functionality Boat and Dolphin browsers provide. I even contacted the Dolphin team having previously assisted them but have got no feedback whatsoever. There must be a way for editing these unusual browser settings, but as pointed out above, I suspect it has something to do will submitting device ID info from within system folders. Thus probably only browser developers could tell us how the problem could be circumvented (and hopefully at least for now, with no root).
Or the developers of addons such as the Random Agent Spoofer or the user agent switchers.
Menergy said:
Thank you, the build.prop info was very helpful. I am not rooted yet as I've got my new phone just less than a month ago so still exploring, but can't really find the file, even among the hidden files on the internal memory. I will explore more and see how it goes.
I am in the UK so for example one of the websites that always loads the limited mobile instead of desktop version is the one of my service provider, EE, ee. co. uk (apologies for the intervals, I'm otherwise not allowed to post it). This mobile version is too basic and 60% of what you could do on a desktop version is cut. I've been on Three Mobile and sometimes I could get their full website working, sometimes not. Other websites are let's say bbc. co. uk and other media/news/bank websites that know, no matter browser settings, you are accessing them from a portable device.
Unfortunately I do not trust Google and any of their products so avoid voluntarily and (un)intentionally handing any personal data over to them. I would have used Mozilla for Android if it was close to the functionality Boat and Dolphin browsers provide. I even contacted the Dolphin team having previously assisted them but have got no feedback whatsoever. There must be a way for editing these unusual browser settings, but as pointed out above, I suspect it has something to do will submitting device ID info from within system folders. Thus probably only browser developers could tell us how the problem could be circumvented (and hopefully at least for now, with no root).
Or the developers of addons such as the Random Agent Spoofer or the user agent switchers.
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The build.prop is a text file which should be located in system/ folder. And you usually can't view the contents of that folder without root, so that's why you haven't been able to find it.
I visited ee.co.uk using chrome, and I was able to switch between the mobile and desktop version of the site without any issues, even without using the UA changing app. All I did was select "request desktop site" from the side menu.
I tried using CM's stock browser though, and just like you experienced, the same website refused to load in desktop mode. I even went as far as changing the UA in its settings menu and even that didn't work.
So all that you wrote in the last two paragraphs have been confirmed.
Right now, it's either chrome or root until the devs fix/properly implement their UA changing feature.
I was testing other browsers the whole morning here and finally reluctantly tried Firefox. Somehow its Android version never impressed me or was too buggy for me when tested before. Probably because just before going for it I tried Pale Moon and have seen that I can readily edit just about everything via about:config. The Pale Moon's UI settings menu was however completely missing (probably a bug), along with no other controls, so I had to skip it.
So I am glad to report that using Firefox's "Request desktop website" option I finally was able to load desktop versions of websites that were forcing me to always have their mobile one instead. This means that Firefix for now becomes my main browser. As suggested by you, I tried first with Chrome but with no success (using its internal user agent options). There were a few Chrome user agent switchers in the market but although some of them did not explicitly require root, upon starting them they did so I had to uninstall them.
My question yet remains, what exactly tells websites not to load full version, even if browser's user agent reports the correct values. I will leave this to me as I go deeper into this. Glad to have got what I wanted
Thanks a lot for all your help.
Just to add for all having my problem and using Firefox for Android.
By default Firefox will always load the mobile website version and every time you will need to tick "Request desktop site" if you dislike it. As I do, there is an addon called "Desktop by Default" that will always keep the tick on for you. You may instead try creating a new string called "general.useragent.override" adding a desktop OS signature but it won't work (tested by me) for exactly the same websites I had issues with above, so do use the addon instead. It will however work for all other websites that don't have issues with Desktop mode on other browsers.
There is another string that I disabled also called general.useragent.site_specific_overrides.
Tweaking with the Chrome for Android settings seems to require root so Firefox in my case is a God bless. I hope this is helpful to all others with my issue...