Oreo beta and bloatware - Huawei Mate 9 Questions & Answers

Hello all, so I was surprised to see Oreo update, but I did sign in for beta and after some time here it is, problem is I can no more uninstall bloatware (no root) like we were able with Emui 5. Anyone got any hint on how to remove that big amount of s**t in Oreo?

moscatomarco said:
Hello all, so I was surprised to see Oreo update, but I did sign in for beta and after some time here it is, problem is I can no more uninstall bloatware (no root) like we were able with Emui 5. Anyone got any hint on how to remove that big amount of s**t in Oreo?
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You should be able to disable... Else your only option is rooting or use a launcher that can hide icons.

ante0 said:
You should be able to disable... Else your only option is rooting or use a launcher that can hide icons.
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That's not an option. I mean, I want to uninstall and with previous one I was able to do it via phone manager. There was this list of pre-installed apps but can't find it anymore. So I just want to confirm if it's gone or just hidden somewhere. Thanks anyway

moscatomarco said:
That's not an option. I mean, I want to uninstall and with previous one I was able to do it via phone manager. There was this list of pre-installed apps but can't find it anymore. So I just want to confirm if it's gone or just hidden somewhere. Thanks anyway
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Check Phone Manager - Cleanup - Storage Manager (button/text top right). Here you have pre-installed etc. I can't remember if I saw it though, I went back to EMUI 5 and always use root to remove pre-installed stuff.

Can't see the option you are talking about in emui 8, could you post a screen shot?

moscatomarco said:
Can't see the option you are talking about in emui 8, could you post a screen shot?
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Emui 5:
https://imgur.com/gqkFhit
Quality doesn't get better than that. Lol

Emui 5 I was able too. I mean in oreo version

You can root the beta, its not a problem

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Old Style Navigation keys

I am wondering if anyone knows or heard of anyway that the gesture navigation can be turned off and use the old style navigation keys instead? I know Google wants us to use the new gesture navigation and cant for the life of me understand why they are taking a stand with this and leave an option to turn off that ugly notch in the XL model?? I am wondering if the old "adding this line to the build prop will work" qemu.hw.mainkeys=0...this is assuming of course that we can root and Magisk will work with the new Titan security.
Great question! I will also be very interested in switching back to traditional navigation keys. The gestures just don't flow well. Why swipe right to go switch to the last app, but then you can't swipe left to go back, you have to tap. You swipe up to access the app switcher, but tap the pill to go home. Google, either use swipes or use taps, NOT BOTH!!!
You have to download Pixel launcher from Piixel 2
Shouldn't there be an ADB command for this?
Edit: Try this ADB command at your own risk:
"adb shell settings put secure swipe_up_to_switch_apps_enabled 0"
To reverse it try:
"adb shell settings put secure swipe_up_to_switch_apps_enabled 1"
Once we get root I am hoping for a way to get the old style nav bars back this new stuff is for the birds,,,I dont like it at all.
t2jbird said:
Shouldn't there be an ADB command for this?
Edit: Try this ADB command at your own risk:
"adb shell settings put secure swipe_up_to_switch_apps_enabled 0"
To reverse it try:
"adb shell settings put secure swipe_up_to_switch_apps_enabled 1"
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I gave this a try, but sadly it did not work. No error messages or anything, just no changes either.
Try deleting nexuslauncherprebuilt on rooted phone. And install third party pixel launcher. But don't yell at me if anything goes wrong.
Edit: when the device is root-able. I managed to revert back to oreo recent and traditional navbar on Android pie custom room for Nexus 5x, by simply deleting nexuslauncherprebuilt.
Lets hope that it is this easy. I doubt it will be though.
Aman301582 said:
Try deleting nexuslauncherprebuilt on rooted phone. And install third party pixel launcher. But don't yell at me if anything goes wrong.
Edit: when the device is root-able. I managed to revert back to oreo recent and traditional navbar on Android pie custom room for Nexus 5x, by simply deleting nexuslauncherprebuilt.
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Once we get root, I'm sure apps like custom navbar will bring back the old style. It already works in Android pie.
PuffDaddy_d said:
Once we get root, I'm sure apps like custom navbar will bring back the old style. It already works in Android pie.
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Root shouldn't take too long. Mr. Magisk man has already achieved it on his P3 :good:
This was just posted on the front page:
https://www.xda-developers.com/disable-android-pie-gestures-google-pixel-3/
This is awesome thank you brother! Just did it now I have my nav bar back! Just need root to get my Substratum themes to work. I know the Magisk dev is working on it and I have no doubt he will get it for us soon.
cambunch said:
This was just posted on the front page:
https://www.xda-developers.com/disable-android-pie-gestures-google-pixel-3/
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Badger50 said:
Root shouldn't take too long. Mr. Magisk man has already achieved it on his P3 :good:
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He got the 3XL.
Archangel said:
This is awesome thank you brother! Just did it now I have my nav bar back! Just need root to get my Substratum themes to work. I know the Magisk dev is working on it and I have no doubt he will get it for us soon.
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I thought Substratum didn't work on Android 9
PuffDaddy_d said:
I thought Substratum didn't work on Android 9
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Sure it does. You just need root and a good theme
I think most people believe that because the way in which you apply the overlays are different. As long as you have a rooted phone and a Substratum theme that supports Android Pie you can use Substratum. There is just two more steps in the usual process after you build and enable the overlays. After you apply overlays, you just need to reboot your device and then go back into substratum and go to manager and enable the overlays you just built.
PuffDaddy_d said:
I thought Substratum didn't work on Android 9
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Is there any way to completely disable the Zen feature?

I plan on rooting my OnePlus 7 Pro when I get it.
I really don't want to have anyone turn Zen mode on (I don't plan on using it at all). It's pretty stupid that OnePlus didn't require authentication before entering Zen Mode (so you'd have to authenticate before Zen actually locks your phone down). Since they didn't do that, did anyone make a mod (magisk or otherwise) which completely nukes the feature?
i'll make one if u want to try it out
I'd love to, although I won't be receiving the 7 Pro for another week probably, I gotta get it forwarded from the US.
I really want that thing disabled. Ideally in a Magisk module or just generally something that won't break SafetyNet (because I use Google Pay)
no prob i'll get it ready
Thank you! I'd recommend making a post on the mods section and linking it here, rather than just giving me the zip, so that everyone could enjoy preventing their friends from bricking their phones!
Plus, if it's a Magisk mod, we can just use the built in applock to secure Magisk, and BAM! Phone secured!
Lirannl said:
Thank you! I'd recommend making a post on the mods section and linking it here, rather than just giving me the zip, so that everyone could enjoy preventing their friends from bricking their phones!
Plus, if it's a Magisk mod, we can just use the built in applock to secure Magisk, and BAM! Phone secured!
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I would but there is someone already doing a DeBloat Thread and didn't want to step on toes. But I will so some custom ones upon request
I will also send u a link in PM just in case this thread gets lost by the time u get ur phone.
Here is Zen Mode DeBloater Module
you could use pm disable/uninstall to remove applications on current user setup.
doesnt require root
virtyx said:
you could use pm disable/uninstall to remove applications on current user setup.
doesnt require root
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Would it work if u can't disable
Bradl79 said:
I would but there is someone already doing a DeBloat Thread and didn't want to step on toes. But I will so some custom ones upon request
I will also send u a link in PM just in case this thread gets lost by the time u get ur phone.
Here is Zen Mode DeBloater Module
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Judging by this conversation, I assume that it's just a system app then? I just don't know because I don't have my OP7P yet.
Lirannl said:
Judging by this conversation, I assume that it's just a system app then? I just don't know because I don't have my OP7P yet.
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Correct it's located in /system/app/OPBreathMode
Bradl79 said:
Would it work if u can't disable
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you need an app like "app inspector" or "package name viewer" something that can get you the full name of the folder of the apk.
once you do that
in windows adb with usb debugging on
adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.whatever.whatever
and then to enable again
adb shell pm enable <package_to_enable>
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I did that using adb, but instead of disable i uninstalled it.
I just froze it in TiBackup
Same here, Froze it with TB...
I tried to do it through termux with magisk module debloater(termux emulator) but couldn't find it looked through all sections but it's not in there any ideas?

You don't need root access to install Google in a Mate30

In the old days, people have to unlock the boot loader, gain the root access to install system apps like google play services.
But in the latest Huawei Mate 30, I discovered there is a system menu to enable "administrator" rights.
Settings ->Security->more settings->Device Administrator
The lzplay method also using the "admin" permission to install the google apps.
It's quite interesting that user can choose to activate or deactivate the admin rights granted to apps like lzplay.
I am not sure how much permission does this administrator have, but it definitely installing gapps to the mate30. May be we can use this admin rights to do something more.
Hope this thread will inspire developers who want to do something to bring google back yo the device
Don't think the app works anymore
Not working anymore... maybe with root, or changing the id from mate 30, with some port....
thiagoserrao said:
Not working anymore... maybe with root, or changing the id from mate 30, with some port....
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A new method is coming
hokoonho said:
A new method is coming
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Is this speculation or you know for sure?
I'm wondering since LZPlay is essentially getting the packages from their server, with some proxy work, will that be possible to sideload our own apk file to it (or any apk...hmmmmm), will need some reverse engineering but I will try that after I got my Mate 30 Pro
HighPower said:
I'm wondering since LZPlay is essentially getting the packages from their server, with some proxy work, will that be possible to sideload our own apk file to it (or any apk...hmmmmm), will need some reverse engineering but I will try that after I got my Mate 30 Pro
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Can't the APK files be pushed via ADB?
HighPower said:
I'm wondering since LZPlay is essentially getting the packages from their server, with some proxy work, will that be possible to sideload our own apk file to it (or any apk...hmmmmm), will need some reverse engineering but I will try that after I got my Mate 30 Pro
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Absolutely possible
danon.brown said:
Can't the APK files be pushed via ADB?
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Instead of ADB, huawei is using its HDB, it's possible that there are hidden command that directly pushing files to the sysyem folder
I have just playing with a mate30 Pro, connected to a PC and discovered that there is a ROM flashing option in the offical HiSuite software. May be third party ROM will be possible?
Fastboot found in the Hisuite folder
There are commands to enable/ disable flashing stuff to the Bootloader partitions!!!
hokoonho said:
I have just playing with a mate30 Pro, connected to a PC and discovered that there is a ROM flashing option in the offical HiSuite software. May be third party ROM will be possible?
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One workaround I heard is that you can restore the backups from those who already installed GMS to your phone, but the post was removed from Huawei club for some reason.
SoybeanYoung said:
One workaround I heard is that you can restore the backups from those who already installed GMS to your phone, but the post was removed from Huawei club for some reason.
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Any Huawei phone or does it have to be a mate 30? I have a mate 9 laying around.
danon.brown said:
Any Huawei phone or does it have to be a mate 30? I have a mate 9 laying around.
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There are lots of methods for Mate 9
danon.brown said:
Any Huawei phone or does it have to be a mate 30? I have a mate 9 laying around.
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That might be spam, I am not sure.
They just posted once again. It looks they used other Mate 30's backup.
https://club.huawei.com/thread-21510398-1-1.html
SoybeanYoung said:
That might be spam, I am not sure.
They just posted once again. It looks they used other Mate 30's backup.
https://club.huawei.com/thread-21510398-1-1.html
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Blocked again
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Blocked again
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I just read the post and post it here,
If you have a PC.
You can install Hisuite and backup a Mate 30 with google installed, then you can restore all the Google stuff to any new Mate 30.
Some people in China make a clean Mate 30 backup with google apps inatalled and share the backup file to others.
People who have such backup file can "restore" google apps into their own phone.
Yes, I can say that this works. Just not sure how long it will last
hokoonho said:
I just read the post and post it here,
If you have a PC.
You can install Hisuite and backup a Mate 30 with google installed, then you can restore all the Google stuff to any new Mate 30.
Some people in China make a clean Mate 30 backup with google apps inatalled and share the backup file to others.
People who have such backup file can "restore" google apps into their own phone.
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jl1030 said:
Yes, I can say that this works. Just not sure how long it will last
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Could you explain how to do it? because my device had GMS installed I want to share to my friend.

Nope.

Nope.
^Preemptively answering all PMs.
This sounds amazing, May i ask for a very wanted feature? Android 10(Q) battery! If you make this possible ill love you to the ends of the world and donate a bottle of something good lol ?
Thanks for this. Can you tell me if the transcripts for screened calls are available with this?
mikkis2k said:
This sounds amazing, May i ask for a very wanted feature? Android 10(Q) battery! If you make this possible ill love you to the ends of the world and donate a bottle of something good lol
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What are you asking for?
lollyjay said:
Thanks for this. Can you tell me if the transcripts for screened calls are available with this?
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I'm not sure if call screen saves the transcript, but I've interacted with live transcriptions with multiple responses. You can see my screenshots in the other call screen thread.
TotallyAnxious said:
What are you asking for?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/themes/magisk-aod-lockscreen-weather-mods-oos-t3847008
"v1.7 (23/04/2019)
- Add Android Q battery icon style"
This, if its possible tho, its weird that the oneplus 6 thats on pie can and we cant, you think its possible? ?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/themes/magisk-aod-lockscreen-weather-mods-oos-t3847008
"v1.7 (23/04/2019)
- Add Android Q battery icon style"
This, if its possible tho, its weird that the oneplus 6 thats on pie can and we cant, you think its possible? ?
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No idea. I'll maybe look into it. But it's not something that immediately hits me as "hey I can do that". I'm incredibly lazy and stoned a lot (stage 3 colon cancer survivor). So keep that in mind lol
Well dang, I still can't get call screening even with this. That's the only feature I truly missed when I left pixel 2 xl for a op7pro. I just have the worst luck trying to get it back.
Also I had a super nice stable device on 9.5.13 with root and a lot of nice things and the only reason I even went to 10 was the other thread said it was working on 10 and xxx said it worked on 10 and now I've been on 10.0.1 for 3 days and it's the buggiest thing I've used ever
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spart0n said:
Well dang, I still can't get call screening even with this. That's the only feature I truly missed when I left pixel 2 xl for a op7pro. I just have the worst luck trying to get it back.
Also I had a super nice stable device on 9.5.13 with root and a lot of nice things and the only reason I even went to 10 was the other thread said it was working on 10 and xxx said it worked on 10 and now I've been on 10.0.1 for 3 days and it's the buggiest thing I've used ever
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It's incompatible with your set up or you didn't follow the directions. (I'm not angry). But I've posted screenshots proving it works
So try eliminating variables till it works.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...bling-google-pixel-call-t3946535/post80596215
TotallyAnxious said:
It's incompatible with your set up or you didn't follow the directions. (I'm not angry). But I've posted screenshots proving it works
So try eliminating variables till it works.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...bling-google-pixel-call-t3946535/post80596215
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Well I am on the T-Mobile version converted to international so mine is the gm1915 which you already said might not work. I completely clearer out every magisk module I had, rebooted to a stock rooted phone and things were fine, installed your first module, rebooted things were fine, installed the companion module and get a bootloop. Thankfully I have twrp and uninstalled the companion module and now it boots. I just have a gut feeling it's not going to work on here and I REALLY hate wiping my data so I'm just going to wait and see if someone else makes a breakthrough on the gm1915 model
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spart0n said:
Well I am on the T-Mobile version converted to international so mine is the gm1915 which you already said might not work. I completely clearer out every magisk module I had, rebooted to a stock rooted phone and things were fine, installed your first module, rebooted things were fine, installed the companion module and get a bootloop. Thankfully I have twrp and uninstalled the companion module and now it boots. I just have a gut feeling it's not going to work on here and I REALLY hate wiping my data so I'm just going to wait and see if someone else makes a breakthrough on the gm1915 model
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Well you didn't follow the instructions. You didn't install Google phone. Please reread.
If you don't install Google phone before flashing the companion. It won't boot.
I provided clear instructions. Follow them and you'll get call screen.
How to install (Magisk Manager or TWRP):
0. Uninstall kirisakura kernel companion, it's included.
1. Install "Anxious7Pro_v*.zip".
2. Reboot.
3. Install google phone apk from apkmirror or just use the apk in the companion module.
4. Set up google phone, i.e. grant all permissions (including "Draw over other apps" and "Modify system settings"), set as default phone app, open app and set up available features.
5. Install "Anxious7ProCompanion_v*.zip".
6. Reboot.
7. Profit.
Also you should pretty much always have BusyBox installed if you're rooted.
TotallyAnxious said:
Well you didn't follow the instructions. You didn't install Google phone. Please reread.
If you don't install Google phone before flashing the companion. It won't boot.
I provided clear instructions. Follow them and you'll get call screen.
How to install (Magisk Manager or TWRP):
0. Uninstall kirisakura kernel companion, it's included.
1. Install "Anxious7Pro_v*.zip".
2. Reboot.
3. Install google phone apk from apkmirror or just use the apk in the companion module.
4. Set up google phone, i.e. grant all permissions (including "Draw over other apps" and "Modify system settings"), set as default phone app, open app and set up available features.
5. Install "Anxious7ProCompanion_v*.zip".
6. Reboot.
7. Profit.
Also you should pretty much always have BusyBox installed if you're rooted.
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I have no idea what kirisakura kernel companion is, but is compatible with Smurf kernel? Could that be my problem?
I also had Google phone installed before I did this, I preferred it over oos dialer from the start
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spart0n said:
I have no idea what kirisakura kernel companion is, but is compatible with Smurf kernel? Could that be my problem?
I also had Google phone installed before I did this, I preferred it over oos dialer from the start
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You should follow the instructions. If it says install Google phone, you should do that. If it's already installed that means you should uninstall to install. And it's just a handful of shell script commands. It is NOT the issue.
I'm not trying to be difficult. But you've twice not followed the instructions. If you don't follow them. It won't work.
The instructions were set up specifically for this. The non-boot that is caused by Google phone being installed as a system app prior to being a user app. I have no idea why in hell that would cause a non-boot. But it does. As I said I am very lazy. I did everything I could to make this a one and done module. So I wouldn't have to provide much support.
Kirisakira companion is listed as feature but I actually rewrote it and that will probably be put into the original mod from freak07. It's just to emphasize not needing to install both.
I think it's ridiculous it requires instructions but it's the only consistent way I've found to get all the listed features working. Please please please ? ?? read them carefully and follow them. Meaning the below paragraph is the ridiculous part btw.
It makes no sense Google phone causes a non-boot when installed as system app first. Even in a module by itself. It causes that.
I spent a week figuring out the easiest way to do this. And I got it down to under 10 steps. Please follow them.
I even spent time leanring how the unity module template works ecause the companion module is unity. And I'm really lazy.
Simplified instructions
How to install (Magisk Manager or TWRP):
0. Uninstall Kirisakura kernel companion and Google Phone, if both/either are installed. Reboot if you uninstalled.
1. Install "Anxious7Pro_v*.zip".
2. Reboot.
3. Install google phone apk from apkmirror or just use the apk inside the companion module.
4. Set up google phone, i.e. grant all permissions (including "Draw over other apps" and "Modify system settings"), set as default phone app, open app and set up available features.
5. Install "Anxious7ProCompanion_v*.zip".
6. Reboot.
7. Profit.
If you don't follow the instructions, you'll probably end up in a non-boot/bootloop.
@TotallyAnxious I will post here. I will be doing clean install of Beta 4 in a couple of hours, and post feedback here. One question though... I am a beta tester for Google Phone. Should I not use it, and instead install the nodpi version of latest .APK that you linked?
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@TotallyAnxious I will post here. I will be doing clean install of Beta 4 in a couple of hours, and post feedback here. One question though... I am a beta tester for Google Phone. Should I not use it, and instead install the nodpi version of latest .APK that you linked?
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Didn't you just confirm it works with that screenshot? And I use beta too. But I have stable in the companion module and you can use any verison. I just don't want to provide a non stable starting point. I get less issues reported that way haha you'll learn overtime I consider how to minimize the effort I need to put into support beyond the OP. I'm incredibly lazy.
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Didn't you just confirm it works with that screenshot? And I use beta too. But I have stable in the companion module and you can use any verison. I just don't want to provide a non stable starting point. I get less issues reported that way haha you'll learn overtime I consider how to minimize the effort I need to put into support beyond the OP. I'm incredibly lazy.
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lol same here (lazy). But I think that testing your modules with clean beta 4 install is worth the time and effort.
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lol same here (lazy). But I think that testing your modules with clean beta 4 install is worth the time and effort.
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I don't think it is but I haven't tried beta OnePlus software yet. But I doubt it's gonna be that different with a clean install. Can you post the screenshot here so people see it works? Until it's posted here, people can click the link to see it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...-nolimits-7-0-speed-ram-t3933927/post80645203
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I don't think it is but I haven't tried beta OnePlus software yet. But I doubt it's gonna be that different with a clean install. Can you post the screenshot here so people see it works?
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Sure, np
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Hi, Ive just followed the instructions and got this working.. but i previously had the google phone installed as system app so went to my uninstaller and uninstalled 3 things, phone, phone .com and android.phone i think it was and now i have no mobile data.
Any idea what i install again to get this back? Thanks!

How do I delete system apps on newer phones?

I've recently worked on both a OnePlus 11 and a RedMagic 8 Pro (both with Snapdragon 8 gen 2), and on both phones I can't seem to remove YouTube. I'm rooted, and I've tried Titanium Backup and System App Safe Remover. I've also tried navigating to the APKs in a root explorer, but I was unsuccessful. I also used a terminal to run `su` and `reboot disemmcwp` in order to get write access, but that made no difference.
Is there something different about new phones? I need to power up my power-user status.
RootExplorer should do the job.
AFAIK Youtube isn't installed as system-app but as system-privileged-app: a big difference!
You musnt delete it , only disable it
Guan Yu said:
You musnt delete it , only disable it
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My end goal is to install an older version of YouTube (the last Vanced with SponsorBlock). Disabling won't allow that.
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My end goal is to install an older version of YouTube (the last Vanced with SponsorBlock). Disabling won't allow that.
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Why don't you install the non-root version? It coexists with the official version and both run fine.
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Why don't you install the non-root version? It coexists with the official version and both run fine.
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That's a good suggestion, and maybe that's where I'll end up going. It's just kinda irksome that I used to have more freedom. Seems like "the man" has been working hard against the rooting community for the last couple of years.
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That's a good suggestion, and maybe that's where I'll end up going. It's just kinda irksome that I used to have more freedom. Seems like "the man" has been working hard against the rooting community for the last couple of years.
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I have seen too many posts on this and have been wondering for long why people bother so much with replacing the official app, when the non-root version works just fine, including opening links by default. There is just nothing that the root version can do which the non-root version can't, so I suggest to install the non-root version and forget about it.

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