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Does this not work right for anyone else? Am I doing something wrong? Trying it right now and I know it has the direction and horizon right but I know it's showing things in the wrong place. Like the moon is not even close to where it says the sun is on the eastern horizon at 10:30pm.
Swyped via my EVO.
Sounds like your location isn't correct. If the direction and horizon are right, then the magnetometer and accelerometer are working fine... open something like Google Maps and make sure it's showing your location right... Also double check your location settings and make sure you have it set to use GPS and not just network-based location...
I think I had to use it in portrait mode for it to work right, and holding it at the right angle helped a lot.
Play around with it, after a little while it was working fine for me. You can try searching for something and try to point your phone towards the spot, after learning how to do this you will be holding the phone right. If not, you will probably spin in circles a few times =p
Sky Maps has been retarded for me in the past. Go into your Applications settings, force-close it, make sure it didn't move itself to the SD card somehow, and wipe its data.
Is the turn by turn working properly for you guys? If i want directions read to me, i have to tap the screen. Just wondering if this is like this for everyone, if so it must just be part of the beta. or maybe it's has something to do with the fact that i'm in canada...
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Is the turn by turn working properly for you guys? If i want directions read to me, i have to tap the screen. Just wondering if this is like this for everyone, if so it must just be part of the beta. or maybe it's has something to do with the fact that i'm in canada...
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That's how it works. It does not automatically read to you. You tap anywhere on the screen to have it talk. An different implementation.
well that's kinda silly in my opinion, why would they do that? I noticed my screen also times out during navigation, and when i turn it back on it has to reacquire a gps lock...
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well that's kinda silly in my opinion, why would they do that? I noticed my screen also times out during navigation, and when i turn it back on it has to reacquire a gps lock...
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Dunno. In some regards, it probably makes sense. I use a Garmin for normal GPS navigation, and really, i'm terribly annoyed every time it has to talk. Especially when it repeats itself over and over (such as "recalculating"). The fact that I simply tap the screen and the phone will tell me directions when I need to hear it is rather useful to me. Also the phone doesn't automatically recalculate, which I think makes the most sense. When I drive, and I accidentally go off course, I dont need my GPS to recalculate every 5 seconds. I need to slow down, get my bearings, and then have it recalculate. Because I tell the phone when it recalculate, its not yelling at me every 5 seconds that its recalculating. In other words, I have more control over the GPS this way.
At the same time, I do see the value in automatic direction narration and automatic recalculation. It would have been nice to be able to choose between the two.
Ah. My only real beef with Mango. While not too terribly offputting, I'm wondering if MS was trying to be too different here.
I don't use GPS at all as I'm mostly in Dallas and know my way around the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex. But, I do travel from time to time and GPS can come in handy. That being said, the design choices here seem a wee bit weird.
You tap it to get voice and it only notifies you if you've made a correct or incorrect turn. By that time, it's too late. And, you have to turn around. Now, you don't have to look at he screen as you can tap while watching the road. So, it's not as if it's any less safe but... really?
Edit: Reading prjk's post above, I guess if MS revealed the reason behind this particular design choice, it might more sense for all of us.
Yea it still kinda sucks compared to....
It is very weak, compared to every real navigation system in existence. Not having the option to have the instructions automatically read to you, and not providing any kind of audible warning when you approach a turn, and not automatically rerouting you when you miss a turn, all combine to make the system almost useless.
I'll either be keeping AT&T Navigator, or switching to T-B-T from GPS Tuner if they ever get all of the kinks worked out of their system.
Most people use this thing called a radio when they're driving, or they're having conversations in the car, and I think this approach works perfect during those situations. My car has a built in navigation which automatically lowers the radio and then gives my the direction, but the phone, unfortunatelly, can't do that... So it's best if, when you need the direction, you put the radio down, just randomly tap, and have the kind woman give you the information rather than missing it or it interrupting you... Just my opinion though.
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Most people use this thing called a radio when they're driving, or they're having conversations in the car, and I think this approach works perfect during those situations. My car has a built in navigation which automatically lowers the radio and then gives my the direction, but the phone, unfortunatelly, can't do that... So it's best if, when you need the direction, you put the radio down, just randomly tap, and have the kind woman give you the information rather than missing it or it interrupting you... Just my opinion though.
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Another great example. I always have my music blasting in the car so I can't hear the directions anyway. With this method, I can pause the music, tap the screen to hear my directions, and resume my music. I'm not trying to hear directions over my music, or having to bend to the will of the GPS and have it tell me what to do when it wants to.
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Another great example. I always have my music blasting in the car so I can't hear the directions anyway. With this method, I can pause the music, tap the screen to hear my directions, and resume my music. I'm not trying to hear directions over my music, or having to bend to the will of the GPS and have it tell me what to do when it wants to.
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I'm definitely not trying to rain on anybody's parade here, but there isn't a person here (unless they're a complete weirdo) who can tell me they haven't been annoyed at the GPS interrupting them. Or at missing the directions, and having to struggle to find them. The phone DOES make a noise when a correct turn was taken, and a different one for an incorrect turn, so it does alert you to some degree, but I like the power being in your hands...
I'm sorry guys, but you're really reaching here, and I don't see why you are being so zealous about it.
First of all, the app telling you that you made a correct or incorrect turn after the fact serves no purpose at all. If you are in an unfamiliar area, you need the app to alert you that the turn is coming up, or you are very likely to miss it.
Second, it's kind of insulting to imply that anyone who has a different opinion is a "weirdo".
Third, most people prefer to keep their eyes on the road when they're driving, not fish around for their phone so they can check to see if they are still on course. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the anti-texting laws in some areas might also cover the kind of distracted driving that Microsoft's implementation might cause.
And fourth, we're talking about an option here, not forcing you to join our weirdo brigade. You want to be forced to find your phone, unlock it, and tap the screen to get your next instruction (while potentially driving in congested traffic in an area you don't know)? Fine. I don't. I want the Mango app to behave the same way every other professionally designed GPS navigation system currently available does.
Uh... Do you know what an opinion is? A navigation device interrupting isn't an opinion, but nice try though... I really apologize that my actual opinion is "reaching" for you... I like it, if you don't, sucks, never told you that you should feel the way I do
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I'm sorry guys, but you're really reaching here, and I don't see why you are being so zealous about it.
First of all, the app telling you that you made a correct or incorrect turn after the fact serves no purpose at all. If you are in an unfamiliar area, you need the app to alert you that the turn is coming up, or you are very likely to miss it.
Second, it's kind of insulting to imply that anyone who has a different opinion is a "weirdo".
Third, most people prefer to keep their eyes on the road when they're driving, not fish around for their phone so they can check to see if they are still on course. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the anti-texting laws in some areas might also cover the kind of distracted driving that Microsoft's implementation might cause.
And fourth, we're talking about an option here, not forcing you to join our weirdo brigade. You want to be forced to find your phone, unlock it, and tap the screen to get your next instruction (while potentially driving in congested traffic in an area you don't know)? Fine. I don't. I want the Mango app to behave the same way every other professionally designed GPS navigation system currently available does.
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Not being zealous, but seeing it from both perspectives. They both make sense just fine. Course some people prefer one over the other, and that's perfectly fine too.
IMO, any device whether its your regular Garmin GPS or your Windows Phone device is possible cause for distracted driving. And obviously not understanding or knowing how to use said devices is even more cause for distracted driving.
I'm not sure how you use your GPS devices, but I certainly don't fumble around in my car so it can tell me directions. That sounds like a cause for distracted driving no matter what device you are using. Haha. I would have my phone mounted and already set to navigate. Then when directions are necessary, you just tap on the screen. You tap anywhere on the screen. So you don't even have to look at your phone to hunt for a specific repeat button or something, and that eliminates the need to turn away from the road as well. You would be no more distracted than if you were to have to look at your map on your good old Garmin GPS, or have to tap your Garmin to have it repeat directions that you missed because your music was too loud or because you just weren't paying attention to it. The sounds indicate whether I made my turn or not, then I just tap anywhere on my phone again when I'm ready for the next set of directions. If I go off course, my phone also won't repeatedly yell "recalculating" at me every couple seconds while I try to get back on the right track. I can tell it to recalculate and resume when I'm ready to get back on course.
Its not perfect, and certainly its not for everyone, but for those who like a little more control over their GPS experience, and a little less annoyance, it makes sense.
Has a propper driving 3d mode been implemented yet? kida seems pointless what they have implemented here to be honest. Hopefully the nokia driving app will be available on the store once they sort themselves out and release a phone for wp7.
edit. Acording to an article i read earlier nokia apps will be available for every wp7 phone, but most likely not ovi maps or navigation, those are being reserved for the nokia handsets.
I think we can all agree that having the directions automatically read to you would be a good *option*, even if it's not enabled by default. I only use the GPS when I have no idea where I'm going, so I need something that tells me how far a turn is, then reminds me as I'm approaching, then tells me that I need to turn now.
The old bing app on WM6.5 worked remarkably well. I wish the WP7 navigation could be configured to function like that. Yes it did talk A LOT and got annoying at times if someone else is in the car, but to have tapping the screen constantly be your only choice for being read directions is even more annoying especially if you are in unfamiliar territory.
Aside from that, I'd also like the option to have it automatically recalculate directions when you make a wrong turn. I can't think of an instance of where I'd miss a turn, then not want it to tell me how to get back on track.
To give the navigation some credit though, I use the Zune software for my music when I'm in the car, and it does pause the music when saying something and then resume it after, which is nice.
I used the gps nav for the first time last night and I must say they have some work to do.
I get what some are saying about it's nice not to be interrupted, but last night I needed to know my directions as they were coming up. Make it an option to not automatically read aloud for those that like that. Currently I wouldnt call this turn by turn voice navigation. Most gps units have the ability of getting details or just the bare minimum as far as guidance goes.
Second thing that really annoys me is the layout of buttons. when you are in the directions mode, and then go to the large map, it's annoying to go back to the directions view. Clicking the directions button brings up the new directions field. Also when in large mode, why can't i get voice guidance.
Lack of landscape mode is annoying as well and seems more like a forgotten feature than anything, there's no reason not to have it since metro isn't in use
There also needs to be the option to allow gps to track you if you have to leave the application to do something else. It takes to long, even though it's pretty fast, to re-aquire the satelites.
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Aside from that, I'd also like the option to have it automatically recalculate directions when you make a wrong turn. I can't think of an instance of where I'd miss a turn, then not want it to tell me how to get back on track.
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I can. If you are driving in a city or very populated area with tiny blocks and roads everywhere. If you miss just one turn, then your GPS starts recalculating for you. It'll tell you to take the next right, but it doesn't recalculate in time because the blocks are so small and the next turn is so close, so by the time its telling you to make the next turn to get back on track, you've missed it. Then GPS has to recalculate again, and you miss your next turn again, and this repeats over and over, along with your GPS yelling "recalculate" "take the next right" over and over again.
This is where I think I'll enjoy the manual recalculation the most. If I miss the turn, I simply wait until I know I can respond properly to the next turn direction, maybe on a longer stretch of road, or maybe I can simply stop or slow down somewhere, then have the phone recalculate once, and get right back on track.
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Not being zealous, but seeing it from both perspectives. They both make sense just fine. Course some people prefer one over the other, and that's perfectly fine too.
IMO, any device whether its your regular Garmin GPS or your Windows Phone device is possible cause for distracted driving. And obviously not understanding or knowing how to use said devices is even more cause for distracted driving.
I'm not sure how you use your GPS devices, but I certainly don't fumble around in my car so it can tell me directions. That sounds like a cause for distracted driving no matter what device you are using. Haha. I would have my phone mounted and already set to navigate. Then when directions are necessary, you just tap on the screen. You tap anywhere on the screen. So you don't even have to look at your phone to hunt for a specific repeat button or something, and that eliminates the need to turn away from the road as well. You would be no more distracted than if you were to have to look at your map on your good old Garmin GPS, or have to tap your Garmin to have it repeat directions that you missed because your music was too loud or because you just weren't paying attention to it. The sounds indicate whether I made my turn or not, then I just tap anywhere on my phone again when I'm ready for the next set of directions. If I go off course, my phone also won't repeatedly yell "recalculating" at me every couple seconds while I try to get back on the right track. I can tell it to recalculate and resume when I'm ready to get back on course.
Its not perfect, and certainly its not for everyone, but for those who like a little more control over their GPS experience, and a little less annoyance, it makes sense.
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I don't understand how tapping the screen is a good feature? If your voice navigation doesn't tell you to make a turn ahead of time, then that makes the navigation useless...If you're in an unfamiliar area, how are you supposed to know when to tap?
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I don't understand how tapping the screen is a good feature? If your voice navigation doesn't tell you to make a turn ahead of time, then that makes the navigation useless...If you're in an unfamiliar area, how are you supposed to know when to tap?
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That'e easy. Anytime is a good time to tap if you are in an unfamiliar area. That's the point of manually controlling when you need (or do not) need directions. You choose when you want your phone to tell you where to go. Then once you've started, the phone makes a sound when you are on track, just tap again right after the sound when you are ready for the next set of directions.
Okay so its been a while since the release of the first Android Wear devices, whats Changed ? Is it Worth It ? Was star trek onto something ?
Android Wear is still in its infancy, and clearly has a LONG way to come.
If your still undecided about getting android wear before the holiday period let me help you make your decision.
I have used both the Moto 360 & Lg's G Watch, so Im ignoring device Specific additions because thats not really anything to do with Android Wear its to do with the supplied hardware so don't expect to hear me talking about screen quality this is SOFTWARE ONLY !
After a summers use of Android Wear i have come to a conclusion that many may find hard to swallow and ill go through my reasons and thoughts lets start with what it does well.
From Now on Android Wear will be : AW
Driving :
It works perfectly in theory for driving, you can "Okay Google" and send a SMS or place a call ( provided it is safe to do so, or via BT in car audio ) Great ! you think but now the problems of reality occur.
If your Travelling to and from work / home e.c.t you may need to send a SMS or place a call to Standard numbers ( Home / Work / Mum / Dad e.c.t ) however asking to call " Joe Blogs *Insert work place name here* " is not always picked up correctly and AW.
The Screen will show a turning loading / thinking icon and do one of two things ( 1 ) Finally work it out but by this time you've given up or have tried again : (2) Sits there thinking and just times out and forces the watch to disconnect from your paired device.
Then you hit the issue of no phone signal and whilst driving you don't have time to check the tiny screen to see if the microphone icon shows that its ready and connected to accept your voice task again your sat there talking to your watch like an idiot.
Now android Wear has no way of telling you without looking that you have signal / Connection / ready to accept a command, so you may aswell have your phone hooked up Via BT audio in your dock and do it all via the stock Google now because its faster and easier to tell if you have reception.
As a Pedestrian :
This is a massive sticking point, you can glance at your watch to see the time ( and there should be a better option for the Date for all watch faces ) and the weather and that's about acceptable in society.
Talking to your watch to send an SMS e.c.t get you some funny looks and personal space, also you don't want the general public to know / hear about whats for dinner and your plans for the working week(end).
This can all be done from your phone and you won't look like you got beamed down by a passing space ship.
However Turn by Turn Navigation on your watch is great ! no longer glued to your phone screen burning up battery time trying to do a 15min walk you have never done before, AW handles this perfectly turn by turn !
Searching :
Google Android Wear , asking your watch to give you the 5 day forecast for your next holiday destination next week is a no go, your presented with a unreadable card crammed with search results and a swipe option to open it on your phone !? this bemuses me the whole point was to show us fast easy information.
This kind of task is better done on your phone and so are many other common searches like show me the nearest cash machine / Mc Donalds / Navagate to " Cinema e.c.t " this totally renders AW useless !
Asking for weather and time in other places or in your current region is fine as it seems to do these automatically as long as location reporting is activated on your handset.
Asking for anything beyond this well you may as well have used your phone or asked a passer by.
Alarms / Notes / Fitness Tracking :
These Functions work as advertised and as you'd expect on your phone and some even work offline ( Alarms / reminders / notes ), provided your hardware supports fitness tracking you can grab data using 3rd party apps or the soon to be released google FIT, however lots of phones already do this via a pedometer and there for this function is rendered useless because you end up with two sets of data that are quite different from each other ( I have logged 15,000 steps on my watch to find around 8,000 on my handset.
Phone Tasks :
Calling ( apart from the niggles described in the Driving section ) well here is a mess, accepting / declining a call is partly pointless accepting a call forces you to grab your phone and answer, so this option should be removed so you can only decline or view whos calling, I can hear my phone ringing from my pocket so i'll take it out to look if I can.
There is no option to answer a call and force it to be taken via speaker phone so if your doing a two handed task with your phone near by and some one calls you still have to stop, otherwise in situations like driving the accept call function is fine provided you can pass the phone to a passanger or are hooked up via BT audio.
Final Thoughts :
It works great In car provided you have signal and can shout at your wrist simple names and messages, and you don't already have a in car phone cradle set up where you have voice activation enabled - All of this will be super seeded by android auto so having AW for this reason alone is totally negated and you may aswell wait for Android Auto or carry on with your BT set up.
As of above the rest of AW is pretty useless because using AW is best in a car or doing two handed things where you can't stop and answer the phone, basic function is great and it looks nice but well though out functions are lacking and the actual deployment scenarios where its is applicable are far and few between for several reason stated.
Personally its a gimmick, and even for the G Watch's cheap price its still not worth it and i can't see it ever being.
Google's own voice actions on phones far surpasses AW's usefulness.
Possibly in developing markets I can see it being worth an investment for under $80 to pair with an android one device.
With my BT car stereo / Nexus 5 / Nexus 7 / PC computer its a nice luxury but thats about it, it doe snot let me achieve day to day tasks any faster than just having my phone around its just an annoyance.
I have a G watch and today it is pretty useless. I preferred my old Sony Smartwatch 2, it had better apps, I was able to check twitter, facebook, Whatsapp, call registry, whole sms emails in my phone. With android wear, by now I cannot.
I find it troubling that it has as much power under the hood as a low end smartphone but can't do nearly as much. If I was extremely busy and had bad memory I would use it more but for now it is just a fancy watch to me. I want to be able to actually open an app like Google music. Scroll through albums/tracks/etc. like I do the Google now cards. Use it as a remote for chromecast instead of pulling out my phone. I dunno. I can think of lots of cool things it COULD do but doesn't or won't ever do. Hopefully it is like chromecast and gets some updates and more features in the future. My Sony smartwatch 2 also had more function than the new aw.
Edit: I have read that the new sw3 will allow you to sync music to it and use it seperately from the phone as a music player. I will probably switch to that device simply for that feature alone. G watch is currently in its cradle collecting dust.
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One more thing. This is silly, I'm sure its some kind of disorder, but I don't like to talk much. I prefer text or email when people contact me or I contact someone else. I don't like to use the voice commands in Google now or on wear. I just don't like to talk much at all unless I am in a real conversation with real people in person. That makes it hard for me to utilize this tech in its current state. If they just add more touch functionality I would be grateful.
I find that accepting calls is actually very helpful when walking or riding a bike.
I usually have a headset on, a quick glance at my watch shows me who's calling and I can decide whether it's appropriate to take the call while in traffic, noisier surroundings etc.
Having the option to accept calls with speakerphone would be nice though.
From my experience the main use case for Wear watches is quick access to notifications w/out reaching into one's pocket. As of now it's only a small usability improvement but the platform has more potential.
Thanks for the overview of your experience. I tend to agree with most of your observations. I have had the Sony, Galaxy Gear, Qualcomm Toq, and now the LG. All have their pros/cons. Everyone wants something different/specific out of their smart device. I am enjoying the AW experience but miss several capabilities I had with the other platforms. I want some ability to look at history of email/messages/etc.. that I lose after I swipe a card. Battery life is manageable but needs to improve if they expect the masses to embrace (Toq with low energy Mirsol screen 5 days continuous use).
I question who Google uses to test their software. They need to use others from outside their company to beta test this. Get a wide variety of testers (XDA Developers/College kids/Business professionals) to slap on a beta watch/software and listen to what they say. I know the Google developers have a vision of how they want the software, but quite frankly the Google Now experience is not my favorite.
AW 2.0 is due out soon. I don't expect a radical departure from the current approach. I do hope that the development kit will open up more so 3rd party developers can put in some of the capabilities myself and others like.
I am still a smartwatch geek and genuinely enjoy my AW watch. I think by next year we will have hardware and software that can accommodate the vast variety of different things we all want out of our devices.
I would use the navigation on my AW watch a lot more if when google maps navigation started up on the phone it could have an option to not unlock the screen. My phone is always in my pocket and screen always pointing inward to protect the screen if I walk into a table. If I set AW navigation, the phone screen will wake up and my phone often will register screen swipes through my pocket material next to my leg and do random things.
I feel that kicking off AW navigation, then having to take out the phone and switch off the screen and put back in my pocket makes the AW part a bit redundant.
Likewise with making calls if I am using a Bluetooth speaker or headset with phone in pocket.
I would much prefer Waze had android wear function than google maps anyway.
Also i find of I go to do a Google command on my watch about a third of the time the dumb options list with 'drink a glass of water' comes up and the watch stops listening. Then if I have my hands full I end up having to swipe the screen downwards with my damn nose to resolve the situation. I use mini launcher & would love a way to stop the stock app drawer from coming up at all.
That said I do have a really busy work life and find the reminder feature really useful & I use it for everything.
However, the alarm function which I thought would be useful is rendered pointless by it's insistence to only set any alarm to go off every day at that time, rather than a one off. The few times I have used it I end up at the same time the next day having to go into the menu & deleting the alarm once it has gone off pointlessly the next day as well.
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I can't help but agree with all the points the OP makes, my G Watch is currently gathering dust and awaiting the new update but I am not expecting much. Just like ruben46 I found my old Sony SW2 to be a much more useful device despite the superior hardware of the G Watch.
good thread.
i mostly agree with what's been posted, but much like when Quicktime 1.0 came out (160x120 video playing at 3-5 fps) AW has alot of growing up to do.
i'm a little depressed with the lack of activity in the watch & AW forums on here..there's not the kind of volume forums like the N4 and N5 enjoy..but that's to be expected with less than a dozen watches on the market that nobody is rushing out to purchase.
i'm excited about 2.0 and also the refresh (when it happens).
one thing not mentioned on here is the 'tinycam' webcam app. i have a webcam purchased for baby watching and when i get it set up, i think the webcam app could be useful anytime we're downstairs or something to get a notification if the baby is moving. same for using it as a security device.
i should point out i also bought a pebble for my brother but not sure if he really took advantage of it..i sure had fun setting it up for him.
so yeah..AW is very 'meh' so far but i think once the devs start digging in it will start to ramp up with new possibilities.
i'm holding onto the G and we'll see how it goes.
Sports activity tracker
* ALPHA * state.
I'm looking forward for people to test and send suggestions.
Track your sports activities capturing
location
cadence
altitude
power
heart rate
speed
bearing
slope
etc...
Plot progress, lap time and other
Set targets and receive feedback while tracking your session
Works in landscape and portrait
Audio rithmic control.
Reproduce your music at modified tempo to match your cadence.
Enable metronome to help with cadence.
Download or import routes.
Routes export to GPX and KML
Google earth route export *Broken*
Check compass and GPS status
Integration of sensors and wearables
Heart rate and other BTLE sensors.
Miband
Ready to integrate more
Google fit integration
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The app will only discover wearables like MiBand if they are not used at the same time by another app like MiFit. You need to close MiFit for the band to be discovered.
In the case of the MiBand when you change the app your band stored data will be wiped. I'm investigating a way to avoid this.
What does it do..?
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How to connect with mi band? I search for devices but it find nothing
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I have a question. After connected to my miband I tapped on the top left settings icon and I saw in the bottom of the list the option "factory reset". Is it really possible? What are the consequences? In the official app this option doesn't exist
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How to connect with mi band? I search for devices but it find nothing
Edit: just figured it out
I have a question. After connected to my miband I tapped on the top left settings icon and I saw in the bottom of the list the option "factory reset". Is it really possible? What are the consequences? In the official app this option doesn't exist
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To connect the MiBand you unpaired it first from the other app havent you?
The Admin section of wearables exposes all kind of operations. Some of them are rather low level and even should be executed on a particular order. I may hide/show all that under a setting to avoid mistakes.
Factory reset just does that. It will wipe all the pairing data.
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To connect the MiBand you unpaired it first from the other app havent you?
The Admin section of wearables exposes all kind of operations. Some of them are rather low level and even should be executed on a particular order. I may hide/show all that under a setting to avoid mistakes.
Factory reset just does that. It will wipe all the pairing data.
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Thank you for answering quickly I ask that because lot of people on an Italian forum that I know had many problems with this wereable and I thought that a factory reset could solve them.
Another question: after using you're app I noticed that after reconnecting the mi band to its official app all the data was lost. Is it normal?
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Thank you for answering quickly I ask that because lot of people on an Italian forum that I know had many problems with this wereable and I thought that a factory reset could solve them.
Another question: after using you're app I noticed that after reconnecting the mi band to its official app all the data was lost. Is it normal?
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About the data wipe. This is normal the app is setting new user data based on the personal profile.
Same with the alarms. The band, as far as I know, does not have a way to retrieve the current alarm configuration.
Thanks for the app. I think it very promising. I just installed the app from google play, unpaired the band with mi fit app and connected with gliderun. After connection, it stays short time as connected and disconnects after 4-5 seconds. Is there a reason you can tell? I use smartlock app and I am on cm11.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for the app. I think it very promising. I just installed the app from google play, unpaired the band with mi fit app and connected with gliderun. After connection, it stays short time as connected and disconnects after 4-5 seconds. Is there a reason you can tell? I use smartlock app and I am on cm11.
Thanks again.
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Sorry for not answering before. Is it working better now. There have been a good number of versions.
Hey, tincore. Thank you for making the app compatible with the Mi Band! Since there's a lack of feedback here for you, I'd like to leave you some general issues/thoughts/etc. If you'd like to inquire about any of my comments, or would like logs of anything, please let me know and I'll provide that. If you wouldn't mind just quoting some of my comment so I can get an e-mail notification of your reply, that'd be great!
I'm on Android 4.4.4.
- Initially, I had trouble pairing the Mi Band with the app. I unpaired my band from MiFit, killed MiFit, and attempted pairing to Gliderun. Initially, Gliderun would connect to the band, this is where band's lights light up, and you have to tap the band to 'accept' the pairing; but when you tapped the band nothing happened. However, a minute later the band connected to Gliderun as if I tapped it.
- When I connected to Gliderun, it recognized that I had 6,000 steps, but once I began walking, the app started counting from 0.
- I'm kind of confused about the 'start' function on the Activity tab. Am I supposed to have this enabled? Normally, I just go into MiFit, refresh the page for it to download the data from the band. Can I essentially do this with Gliderun without using this start function?
- On the Activity tab, is there a way to make 'empty' cells completely blank?
- Is there a way to track sleep?
Previously, I had trouble getting my MiBand to reliably stay connected with Gliderun, but now it seems to keep the connection fine. I'll start using this app daily instead and I'll check back here with any updates. Thanks again!
Thanks for the remarks!
After the band is paired once the app tries to find and reconnect to it automatically. I imagine that first time there was a problem with the connection so it connected on the retry . It *should* also syncronize itself every 1-2 hours..
About step count and the start button. Gliderun tries to combine activity and general tracking. When you start a particular activity (by clicking on start) it should count the steps of that activity. When you are not in a activity it should count those steps globally for a daily total.
To activate global tracking you can go to preferences > tracking or tap on some of the inactive dashboard indicators. Without global tracking activated you should still see some totals after syncronization with the band.
You have,at least, two steps counters the band and your phone. Each of them has an absolute step count.
"Sensor step counts" indicator shows the steps of the active step counter so depending on the band being connected or not it may toggle to your phone. I hope this makes sense.
I will add a "Blank" indicator asap.
About sleep. The app should be already tracking your sleep periods. You can see those on Global stats screen. I would like to add the deep sleep phases but I need documentation or advise on what exactly I have to look for in order to provide a faithful solution.
I'm trying now to fix a few issues to move to beta. I hope I can make a video and some captures soon.
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Hey, tincore. Thank you for making the app compatible with the Mi Band! Since there's a lack of feedback here for you, I'd like to leave you some general issues/thoughts/etc. If you'd like to inquire about any of my comments, or would like logs of anything, please let me know and I'll provide that. If you wouldn't mind just quoting some of my comment so I can get an e-mail notification of your reply, that'd be great!
I'm on Android 4.4.4.
- Initially, I had trouble pairing the Mi Band with the app. I unpaired my band from MiFit, killed MiFit, and attempted pairing to Gliderun. Initially, Gliderun would connect to the band, this is where band's lights light up, and you have to tap the band to 'accept' the pairing; but when you tapped the band nothing happened. However, a minute later the band connected to Gliderun as if I tapped it.
- When I connected to Gliderun, it recognized that I had 6,000 steps, but once I began walking, the app started counting from 0.
- I'm kind of confused about the 'start' function on the Activity tab. Am I supposed to have this enabled? Normally, I just go into MiFit, refresh the page for it to download the data from the band. Can I essentially do this with Gliderun without using this start function?
- On the Activity tab, is there a way to make 'empty' cells completely blank?
- Is there a way to track sleep?
Previously, I had trouble getting my MiBand to reliably stay connected with Gliderun, but now it seems to keep the connection fine. I'll start using this app daily instead and I'll check back here with any updates. Thanks again!
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Thanks for the remarks!
After the band is paired once the app tries to find and reconnect to it automatically. I imagine that first time there was a problem with the connection so it connected on the retry . It *should* also syncronize itself every 1-2 hours..
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Yup! After wanting to view my current steps for today, I just opened up Gliderun, waited a bit, and it connected to my MiBand after a couple of minutes. I have to close Gliderun in the meantime because my phone is relatively old (HTC One S -- 2, 3 years?) so I can't have the app running all the time.
About step count and the start button. Gliderun tries to combine activity and general tracking. When you start a particular activity (by clicking on start) it should count the steps of that activity. When you are not in a activity it should count those steps globally for a daily total.
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Ohh, I see, that makes a lot of sense! I'm a student for the majority of my day and don't really have any separate 'activities', so I didn't see the inherent benefit of activity mode, but that does make sense.
To activate global tracking you can go to preferences > tracking or tap on some of the inactive dashboard indicators. Without global tracking activated you should still see some totals after syncronization with the band.
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Ahh, I apologize about that, I completely neglected this tab. I figured the Activity tab was more important simply because of its location. This actually looks more like how I was hoping the app would function.
About sleep. The app should be already tracking your sleep periods. You can see those on Global stats screen. I would like to add the deep sleep phases but I need documentation or advise on what exactly I have to look for in order to provide a faithful solution.
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Thank you! Again, if there are any logs I can provide that would help, please let me know and I will certainly do so.
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I'm having an issue where the app doesn't seem to be updating the Global Stats tab. On the Activity tab, my total steps have been counted properly, but when I go to Global Stats, it only shows information from the previous time I synced (about 8 hours ago). I killed the app, re-connected, and re-synced, and the same thing happened.
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After messing around with the Global Stats tab, and switching views (24 hours/day/week), the app resynced on its own (not sure if it was a coincidence or from me switching views), and now the Global Stats tab has updated; but now it has slightly more steps than the Activity tab.
Not a big deal at all, but I figured you'd like to know!
I just found your app. It looks very promising.
Where would you prefer to have me send the feedback.
I understood there was also a Reddit thread somewhere - I could not find it.
Thanks
maishsk said:
I just found your app. It looks very promising.
Where would you prefer to have me send the feedback.
I understood there was also a Reddit thread somewhere - I could not find it.
Thanks
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If you want you can send me an email. If it something more general or open to discussion by other people feel free to post it here.
That Reddit thread is not getting any rythm.
I had a Mi Band and used the MiFit app for the last couple months, but I lost the device. I've ordered a new one and I'm going to start using Gliderun mostly because of the Google Fit integration. While I'm waiting for my package I've been messing around with your app and trying to figure some things out so I'll be ready to go when my new band arrives. Here's some feedback:
The headphone icon opens up the music controls and the audio notifications; music controls/library only works with music stored on the phone, is there any way to integrate this with Google Music? There's only a couple of apps that I've seen do this (specifically GMusicFS), but it would be nice.
On the user screen: for any user input requiring a number (weight, height, goals, etc.) you have a scrolling number which is nice from a UI perspective, but when I have to enter any of these values for the first time, scrolling is very tedious. This is particularly brutal when I'm trying to set up a goal for the first time, I have to scroll all the way from 0 to 8,000. There should be a way to manually input a number using an on-screen keyboard as well. It also looks like the goal is limited to 20,000 steps, theoretically this should be unlimited.
User profile: I have my units set to imperial. When inputting my height for the major intervals you might want to make the height max out at 7-ft just in case. For the minor intervals, you should put the unit next to the number (inches) and I would limit the user to discrete numbers 1 through 12. I'm not sure how you're calculating height, but the way you have it set up it is very hard for a user to input their height in imperial units. For example: I am 6-ft 2-inches, in order to input my height I have to calculate how many hundredths of a foot 2-inches is. So in my case 2/12=.16666. The average person isn't going to do this and is going to give up when you can't just enter 6-ft 2-inches.
The compass UI needs a little work, it isn't quickly evident where north is. I would prefer a more traditional looking compass (maybe something similar to this). Also, for some reason my altitude is always blank.
Synchronize: I have the first three options enabled for Google Fit integration. The app always says disconnected, when I press the synchronize button it changes to connected, but I don't think anything is actually being synced. There should be some sort of progress bar when synchronizing with Google Fit so the user knows it's actually working. In my case I don't think it's working at all. I've enabled the option to download tracked activities from GFit, but nothing ever shows up in the stats.
In the settings, General: I would make an expert section to the settings menu that has to be manually activated and move Optimize track points and Recalculate calories there. Also for any option where you could be deleting or modifying data (everything under the "Other" section) I would have a confirmation dialog box pop up. That way if somebody accidentally presses one of those options they don't completely wipe out all there data.
In the settings, Audio: I would either explain the difference between Audio engine A and B or give the user an option to play example audio. Similar to how you have the option to "Listen to an example" of text-to-speech output in the main android settings.
In the settings, Notification: I think there needs to be a little more configuration for notifications. I really like the way the Notification version of the MiFit app allowed you to set the colors for the LEDs on the Mi Band as well as the number of times it vibrated and the number of times the LED blinked. I know this is a beta version, but I think a little more work needs to be done in this particular area if you want users to switch from the MiFit app. Being able to tell what app I'm getting a notification from just by looking at the band is extremely useful and it's going to make switching hard without it. I don't want to say you should copy the Notification settings screen from the MiFit app, but it has been implemented very well.
Settings: somewhere you need to provide Help information. For most of the options I'm not sure exactly what they're supposed to do, maybe have a ?-button next to the option that the user can press that will pop up a longer description of exactly what the option does.
Any thoughts on providing a dark theme as well? Just something simple where you change the background to black and the text to white, the green color should look good with both a dark and light background.
I saw you have sleep tracking on the list of things to improve upon, really looking forward to that. The MiFit app and Sleep as Android app provide a very clean UI for visualizing your sleep. I would try to implement something similar. I'm sure you've seen it, but this thread might have some hints on how to better pull the sleep data from the MiBand.
I know I wrote a lot, but you have done great work with this app in the short amount of time you've been developing it. I can't wait to see how this app progresses because I think you've got a really good app here. The design looks very good and polished it just needs a few tweaks here and there. Once I get my new Mi Band I'll provide some more feedback.
Keep up the great work. If you want to discuss any of this more I would be more than happy to do so.
Thanks for all that feedback! I add everything to my list. Will tackle the more important stuff first.
About audio.
I may eventually add a fallback into system players. The player provides a rythm guidance for your exercise by adjusting the playback rate to your desired cadence so it is rather specific. it is custom built.
About scrolling. If you tap you do not need to scroll. You can enter the number directly. This is NumberPicker standard. I may have missed one or two fields though.
I will increase the daily goals to something in the ultramarathon range.
About imperial input. You are absolutely right. Will change it soon..
I will see what I can do with the compass. It is all a matter of priorities.
Altitude comes from GPS.
GFit issue is a glitch too. Click sync again. I'm now focusing more on FitnessSyncer as it is much more powerful.
Sleep tracking is working. You can see it on Daily Stats. It may need some tweaking though. The band does not really export sleep data so I had to write the algorithms myself and I've already noticed a couple of issues.
Also the custom notifications is a great idea. I have to fit that into a general API. The app is meant to integrate other bands. Just need to get some samples.
Devo7v said:
I had a Mi Band and used the MiFit app for the last couple months, but I lost the device. I've ordered a new one and I'm going to start using Gliderun mostly because of the Google Fit integration. While I'm waiting for my package I've been messing around with your app and trying to figure some things out so I'll be ready to go when my new band arrives. Here's some feedback:
The headphone icon opens up the music controls and the audio notifications; music controls/library only works with music stored on the phone, is there any way to integrate this with Google Music? There's only a couple of apps that I've seen do this (specifically GMusicFS), but it would be nice.
On the user screen: for any user input requiring a number (weight, height, goals, etc.) you have a scrolling number which is nice from a UI perspective, but when I have to enter any of these values for the first time, scrolling is very tedious. This is particularly brutal when I'm trying to set up a goal for the first time, I have to scroll all the way from 0 to 8,000. There should be a way to manually input a number using an on-screen keyboard as well. It also looks like the goal is limited to 20,000 steps, theoretically this should be unlimited.
User profile: I have my units set to imperial. When inputting my height for the major intervals you might want to make the height max out at 7-ft just in case. For the minor intervals, you should put the unit next to the number (inches) and I would limit the user to discrete numbers 1 through 12. I'm not sure how you're calculating height, but the way you have it set up it is very hard for a user to input their height in imperial units. For example: I am 6-ft 2-inches, in order to input my height I have to calculate how many hundredths of a foot 2-inches is. So in my case 2/12=.16666. The average person isn't going to do this and is going to give up when you can't just enter 6-ft 2-inches.
The compass UI needs a little work, it isn't quickly evident where north is. I would prefer a more traditional looking compass (maybe something similar to this). Also, for some reason my altitude is always blank.
Synchronize: I have the first three options enabled for Google Fit integration. The app always says disconnected, when I press the synchronize button it changes to connected, but I don't think anything is actually being synced. There should be some sort of progress bar when synchronizing with Google Fit so the user knows it's actually working. In my case I don't think it's working at all. I've enabled the option to download tracked activities from GFit, but nothing ever shows up in the stats.
In the settings, General: I would make an expert section to the settings menu that has to be manually activated and move Optimize track points and Recalculate calories there. Also for any option where you could be deleting or modifying data (everything under the "Other" section) I would have a confirmation dialog box pop up. That way if somebody accidentally presses one of those options they don't completely wipe out all there data.
In the settings, Audio: I would either explain the difference between Audio engine A and B or give the user an option to play example audio. Similar to how you have the option to "Listen to an example" of text-to-speech output in the main android settings.
In the settings, Notification: I think there needs to be a little more configuration for notifications. I really like the way the Notification version of the MiFit app allowed you to set the colors for the LEDs on the Mi Band as well as the number of times it vibrated and the number of times the LED blinked. I know this is a beta version, but I think a little more work needs to be done in this particular area if you want users to switch from the MiFit app. Being able to tell what app I'm getting a notification from just by looking at the band is extremely useful and it's going to make switching hard without it. I don't want to say you should copy the Notification settings screen from the MiFit app, but it has been implemented very well.
Settings: somewhere you need to provide Help information. For most of the options I'm not sure exactly what they're supposed to do, maybe have a ?-button next to the option that the user can press that will pop up a longer description of exactly what the option does.
Any thoughts on providing a dark theme as well? Just something simple where you change the background to black and the text to white, the green color should look good with both a dark and light background.
I saw you have sleep tracking on the list of things to improve upon, really looking forward to that. The MiFit app and Sleep as Android app provide a very clean UI for visualizing your sleep. I would try to implement something similar. I'm sure you've seen it, but this thread might have some hints on how to better pull the sleep data from the MiBand.
I know I wrote a lot, but you have done great work with this app in the short amount of time you've been developing it. I can't wait to see how this app progresses because I think you've got a really good app here. The design looks very good and polished it just needs a few tweaks here and there. Once I get my new Mi Band I'll provide some more feedback.
Keep up the great work. If you want to discuss any of this more I would be more than happy to do so.
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Thanks for reading through my comments:
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About audio.
I may eventually add a fallback into system players. The player provides a rythm guidance for your exercise by adjusting the playback rate to your desired cadence so it is rather specific. it is custom built.
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The current implementation is good, it was more of a wish list item.
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About scrolling. If you tap you do not need to scroll. You can enter the number directly. This is NumberPicker standard. I may have missed one or two fields though.
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You're right I don't know how I missed that, apparently I've been using Android wrong this whole time.
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I will increase the daily goals to something in the ultramarathon range.
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I honestly would remove scrolling completely from the goals and just leave it as user input. I don't know if scrolling is very useful when we're talking about differences in thousands of steps.
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About imperial input. You are absolutely right. Will change it soon..
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Thanks
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I will see what I can do with the compass. It is all a matter of priorities.
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I don't see this as a priority, it was just a suggestion. Feel free to put this at the bottom of your list.
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Altitude comes from GPS.
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Apparently I was just in a bad location at the time. However it is reporting a different altitude than GPS Test. Gliderun shows me at an altitude of 119ft whereas GPS Test shows me at an altitude of 233 ft so I'm not sure what is going on. Is there some sort of log I can provide?
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GFit issue is a glitch too. Click sync again. I'm now focusing more on FitnessSyncer as it is much more powerful.
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I don't personally use FitnessSyncer, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who do. Looking forward to GFit integration. One quick question: once GFit is fully integrated, will I be able to sync all the data I collect with Gliderun or is there a limit on how far back I can go? Likewise will I be able to import all of my past GFit data into Gliderun?
tincore said:
Sleep tracking is working. You can see it on Daily Stats. It may need some tweaking though. The band does not really export sleep data so I had to write the algorithms myself and I've already noticed a couple of issues.
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As I mentioned, I don't have my new Mi Band yet so I can't test sleep tracking yet. When I get it, I'll give you some more detailed thoughts on it.
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Also the custom notifications is a great idea. I have to fit that into a general API. The app is meant to integrate other bands. Just need to get some samples.
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The detailed control over notifications is the one thing I'm going to miss the most from the MiFit app. Hopefully it's not too much trouble to add these controls. The only thing I can think of to figure out how to add these controls would be to decompile the Notification version of the MiFit app or see if the api calls on this website are useful.
The more we talk and the more I mess around with the app the more I'm liking it.
Thanks again for all the valuable input!
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You are not the first one having trouble with the NumberPickers. I think they are not very well designed. I do not find the field edition intuitive either. Most of the time I forget to click accept so I lose the edition. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
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I honestly would remove scrolling completely from the goals and just leave it as user input. I don't know if scrolling is very useful when we're talking about differences in thousands of steps.
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Yes. The plan is at least to space them in 100 or 250 units
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Apparently I was just in a bad location at the time. However it is reporting a different altitude than GPS Test. Gliderun shows me at an altitude of 119ft whereas GPS Test shows me at an altitude of 233 ft so I'm not sure what is going on. Is there some sort of log I can provide?
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At the moment I'm just showing the Altitude reported by GPS and I think that it has to be corrected by a complex calculation that can be retrieved from a webservice. That may be the issue.
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I don't personally use FitnessSyncer, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who do. Looking forward to GFit integration. One quick question: once GFit is fully integrated, will I be able to sync all the data I collect with Gliderun or is there a limit on how far back I can go? Likewise will I be able to import all of my past GFit data into Gliderun?
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Last time I tried it I could upload and download all gliderun data. I found GFit rather odd. Up to now it is unclear to me when it really uploads the data to the servers making it is visible from the web or other device. Also you do not retrieve exactly what you save.
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As I mentioned, I don't have my new Mi Band yet so I can't test sleep tracking yet. When I get it, I'll give you some more detailed thoughts on it.
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Sleep periods seem rather accurate. Still I have to do something to detect short sleep interruptions. Phases analysis is there too although I think that it has to be taken with a pich of salt. (Not only in this app)
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The detailed control over notifications is the one thing I'm going to miss the most from the MiFit app. Hopefully it's not too much trouble to add these controls. The only thing I can think of to figure out how to add these controls would be to
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It is no real trouble. I will add that rather soon (I hope)..
Hey Tincore
I think you have done some really great work on the app .. but when I tried to use it yesterday I got a bit confused (maybe you can help me out here).
I couldn't actually see where my step count was being shown. I was assuming it would be on the activity screen but it just didn't seem to update. Is there a way to force a refresh of the count? The only time the app seemed to update was when I reconnected my miband.
The update to fitnesssyncer worked well .. is there anyway to have it automatically sync (either time period or when you open the app possibly)?
I found a spelling mistake as well Where you add your weight and waist, chest, hip sizes there is a "thight" measurement (im guessing its meant to be thigh).
Thanks for your hard work!
I just purchased a 2018 Honda Accord EX that has Hondalink. The OS seems to be based on Android 6.1.1
So far Im very disappointed with the limitations of the Hondalink OS. The Driver Distraction Limitations are ridiculous. In CA it's illegal for you to hold your phone. It must be hands free. But as long as it's mounted, you are still able to use many functions as long as it's single finger touch. Regardless, I think a user/driver should be allowed choices and be held responsible if abusing those choices, like texting while driving, or watching a video while driving. But the limitations of HondaLink, coupled with AndroidAutos ridiculously small list of supported apps, it makes me wonder... WHY??? Why have this system at all? There's no app/option to watch video or browse images (even if parked) and no web browser. No Youtube. No Voxer support. Nothing. When I ask google for showtimes of a movie playing, using voice command, it gives showtimes for theaters that aren't even close to where I am when asking. Ive even tried to specify the theater when asking. Doing this only confuses it. This is a pathetic substitute for the fandango app.
Obviously I considered using the "Install App" (App Installer? sry, not in car) button. So, went on my galaxy S8+, used APK extractor, copied extracted apks to a USB jump drive, and plugged the jump drive into the car. The car recognizes the Jump Drive, and sees the apks, along with their appropriate file sizes. The apks I tested are Accuweather, ES File Explorer, Voxer, and Youtube. When I tap on one of the files, it brings up the "Install App?" dialogue box, but the button "Install" is greyed out.
Does anyone know how to get into the Developer Diagnosis page?
At the very very least, I'd like to disable the Driver Distraction Setting
Is there an android app that can be used as a substitute to Android-Auto that is a straight screen mirroring of the phone to the HondaLink Infotainment console?
i have a 2018 accord sport...i don't even get the subwoofer or the extra speakers....but using AA with my phone or just unplugging it when needed works just fine. What are you needing it to really do?
Before I go into it, please understand that I recognize that feature limitations and the "Driver Attention" lock is all meant for the safety of the driver and for others around the driver. I recognize that ultimately the road and the safety of those on the road are the priority. But i will also note that in CA, as long as the phone is mounted and not in your hand, you can pretty much do any task that only requires one finger (short of texting)
That being said, if AA allows an app, like Doubletwist, im frustrated that I cant do a simple one finger task of scrolling down a list of albums/artist/songs/playlist unless I'm at a complete stop. I've found that when I'm rolling at 2-3mph and am STILL locked out, im having to unplug my phone and look down at it to simply change playlist. When I'm going down a freeway and I'm in stop and go traffic for 15-20miles and never actually coming to a completely stop, this can be beyond frustrating. Ultimately I think that driver safety should be the drivers responsibility, and not predetermined by a company. If a driver abuses technology, then the driver needs to be accountable. It's my mission to figure out how to disable that stupid driver attention lock.
What do I want it to do? I want more than an overglorified play/pause button. Seriously. Yes it shows the name of the song and allows me to go to the next track, previous track, pause/play, but beyond that, absolutely no control. Voxer is a VERY simple one touch app. You tap to start voxing, you tap to stop. That's it, super straight forward. NOT supported. I want to be able to browse firefox, fandango, and YouTube when I'm parked.
But ultimately, I want the Android experience with full fledged apps. Android Auto pretty much just commandeers the Hond aLink infotainment screen. So just allow straight screen mirroring. That's what I "want".
Make playlists In Google play music....use your voice to change it.
Google play is nothing more than pandora and spotify. You have to select from their options. Yes, I might being "picky", but I prefer Doubletwist. It lets me sync my iTunes music and playlist. The point is, AA supports Doubletwist, but is too limited, and the "Driver Attention" lock is frustrating as heck. Besides that, AA is just too limited, too restrictive. Google/android should just do away with AA and just do straight screen mirroring. Or at least allow a 3rd party to make an app that resembles AA without so much of the limutations. It's sad that the most awesom.e feature in the best car ive had in almost 20 years is turning out to be the most pointless feature. 90% of what you can do through A you can do through Bluetooth. But I Really don't want to get a mount and make the dash look tacky. I mean, the phone mounted right next to the high infotainment screen. Jeez. More to the point, I just plain don't see why I should have to.
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Google play is nothing more than pandora and spotify. You have to select from their options. Yes, I might being "picky", but I prefer Doubletwist. It lets me sync my iTunes music and playlist. The point is, AA supports Doubletwist, but is too limited, and the "Driver Attention" lock is frustrating as heck. Besides that, AA is just too limited, too restrictive. Google/android should just do away with AA and just do straight screen mirroring. Or at least allow a 3rd party to make an app that resembles AA without so much of the limutations. It's sad that the most awesom.e feature in the best car ive had in almost 20 years is turning out to be the most pointless feature. 90% of what you can do through A you can do through Bluetooth. But I Really don't want to get a mount and make the dash look tacky. I mean, the phone mounted right next to the high infotainment screen. Jeez. More to the point, I just plain don't see why I should have to.
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Not sure what the doubletwist is, but I prefer using sony xperia musix (look here on xda). For youtube there is carstream app that someone made which can be used for watching youtube while driving besides parked (http://www.thekirankumar.com/blog/2017/12/29/play-youtube-video-android-auto-app/). Also, i believe there is newer android auto version which allows wireless AA but I haven't tested that yet which may help with some issues that you have.
YoColdRain said:
Not sure what the doubletwist is, but I prefer using sony xperia musix (look here on xda). For youtube there is carstream app that someone made which can be used for watching youtube while driving besides parked (http://www.thekirankumar.com/blog/2017/12/29/play-youtube-video-android-auto-app/). Also, i believe there is newer android auto version which allows wireless AA but I haven't tested that yet which may help with some issues that you have.
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Thanks I'll look into those. Presently, I just stuck a phone mount on the dash and keep everything Bluetooth. Its only taking advantage of probably 5% of the Honda-link infotainment consoles potential, and yet it's still 20x better than battling with Android Autos ridiculous limitations. Sad :\
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Before I go into it, please understand that I recognize that feature limitations and the "Driver Attention" lock is all meant for the safety of the driver and for others around the driver. I recognize that ultimately the road and the safety of those on the road are the priority. But i will also note that in CA, as long as the phone is mounted and not in your hand, you can pretty much do any task that only requires one finger (short of texting)
That being said, if AA allows an app, like Doubletwist, im frustrated that I cant do a simple one finger task of scrolling down a list of albums/artist/songs/playlist unless I'm at a complete stop. I've found that when I'm rolling at 2-3mph and am STILL locked out, im having to unplug my phone and look down at it to simply change playlist. When I'm going down a freeway and I'm in stop and go traffic for 15-20miles and never actually coming to a completely stop, this can be beyond frustrating. Ultimately I think that driver safety should be the drivers responsibility, and not predetermined by a company. If a driver abuses technology, then the driver needs to be accountable. It's my mission to figure out how to disable that stupid driver attention lock.
What do I want it to do? I want more than an overglorified play/pause button. Seriously. Yes it shows the name of the song and allows me to go to the next track, previous track, pause/play, but beyond that, absolutely no control. Voxer is a VERY simple one touch app. You tap to start voxing, you tap to stop. That's it, super straight forward. NOT supported. I want to be able to browse firefox, fandango, and YouTube when I'm parked.
But ultimately, I want the Android experience with full fledged apps. Android Auto pretty much just commandeers the Hond aLink infotainment screen. So just allow straight screen mirroring. That's what I "want".
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To unlock the driver attention thing you need to hold the home, power, and source button for bout 10 seconds then click on the detail information & setting screen and from there hold home button again for 10 seconds and then click on the vehicle model information and turn off the DD VSP ERROR and that should do it. However everytime you turn off your car it resets and you have to do it all over again.