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Hi all,
Figured I should start a post with problems (in the quest for solutions).
I have had my v1605 from Vodafon for 3 days now and have found a few problems already. I have a replacement coming on Tue so will see what is fixed...
So far:
- keyboard back lights not working, matters not if the sensor is active or not. Vodafone replacing the unit as a result.
- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
- screen alignment wanders and as such I usually need to re-align the screen once a day or more. Seems always to drift left and slight lower than I am pressing.
- today screen items are locked and 'vodafoned', very annoying as I cannot show task list, owner info or lock status on the today screen. I hard reset the unit and reset it before the customisation happened and voila - the usual today screen items were back - but as a result I lost the vodafone dialer skin and the 3G symbol. I presume someone can ROM-hack to get rid of this restriction and look forward to it In fact, it would be perfect if the ONLY Vodafone customisations were the dialler skin, 3G symbol and theme.
- If you have a password set and hard-reset the unit it crashes when you are prompted for the password. Soft resetting it then skips the vodafone customisation.
- left softkey set to phone instead of calendar and no way to change it.
- no easy way to access Vodafone Live!
- camera quality pretty poor for a 2MP, no where near as good as the K750i for example. However, the K750i on its first firmware was pretty aweful too!
- when plugged into USB on computer - if you turn it off (so as just to charge) it will turn itself back on again shortly and commence another sync.
Other than these niggles, of which the today screen is the biggest for me, I love the TyTN. By far the best PDA/Phone I have owned to date!
So - over to you guys, does your v1605 have these issues or others, or none????
Rich
My slide out keyboard down't click into place on the left side the way the right does (and also the way the wizard does). It may not be a problem now but in the future, it may begin to wear and then it might affect the function of the keys??
Are they just swapping a unit for you or exchanging the whole package? How will you know if you get a brand new set? When I switched mine on, the call timers showed outgoing 40 seconds and incoming 45 seconds. I'm not sure if this is vodafone testing the units or it's not new.
Am told I am getting a brand new unit - will check call timers as they *should* be 0-0.
Just had a play with mine and I only feel a click on the right side of the keyboard too. Feels nice and solid once it is out though - not like the xda-mini-s which feels flimsy in comparison.
R
I do not see the "E" icon even in EDGE enabled areas. I even tried the HTC Wizard icon hack hack with no success:
http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/191
'E' appears on my v1605
3G is awesome.
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Just had a play with mine and I only feel a click on the right side of the keyboard too. Feels nice and solid once it is out though - not like the xda-mini-s which feels flimsy in comparison.
R
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Thats great! was a bit worried that mine was a faulty unit. It does feel solid when sliding. It was just the lack of the "click" that bugged me.
Anyone else who received their unit had timers showing calls made and received from it? Its probably vodafone testing it. The unit is too new for any refunds/refurbs to have been made.
- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
My unit has this issue and I hope my next unit which is a brand new replacement that comes on Tuesday doesn't have this issue. My unit it is only the O that has problem which is getting better over time. I called them and they was more than happy to get a brand new unit to get sent out just want a perfect working one in my 14 day period so fingers crossed will keep you updated.
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- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.
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Do you also feel a click only on the right when you slide open the keyboard? Let us know how you get on with the new unit.
Don't feel no click at all. Will keep you all updated.
UPDATE:
New unit turned up - keyboard lights now work as expected.
Still only a right side click on the keybard - so it must just be the way it is.
Today items:
Fix posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=329204#329204
Hope that helps - Rich
Hi guys
Peter .. the guy that got his VPA Compact III two days after me as sent it back on the 14 day returns .... He was concerned about stability. He's always struggled to come to terms with WM stability which I can understand ... so he's off back to palm and blackberry.
From my point of view - I've had one hang during operations which still worries me (I left it at the today screen fine ... and 30 mins later I noticed backlight was completely off and it was utterly un responsive - wouldn't respond to incoming calls). It also hangs occassionally of soft reset or power on (from a complete power off). It usually comes up fine on a subsequent soft reset.
I'm waiting for HTC to call me back so I can raise this as a call. It seems to happen regardless of today plugins being active (I disabled all) - I have also rebuilt with 4 phases of Sprite Backup to restore from - and the problem hasn't gone away.
I suspect it is firmware / software as opposed to hardware .... fingers crossed.
Aside from that I love it as a device .... I just wish one of you guys that has one will let me know if you have had any hangs at all and where you see them.
My keyboard light works fine. It has to be in low light and you have to press a button before it activates - just opening the keyboard in low light doesn't activate it.
Occasionally I turn the device on and it starts in landscape mode and then switches to portrait ... odd .. because I didn't switch it off in landscape.
There is an odd moulding mark where the stylus comes out on the curved recessed part of the body (right hand side). I thought it may be a crack but I'm pretty sure it's just where the plastic moulding was finished before painting. If it's not cracked I'm not bothered.
You can change the WM5 softkeys with Tweaks2k2.
One thing to remember is that rather than use the phone executable, the device originally used a :MSC call. Once removed you can't put it back with Tweaks2k2. It's not an issue because a normal link to phone is fine. If you want Calendar ... then use Tweaks2k2 to change it.
My keyboard works fine ... no sticky keys. Peter had one or two on his.
Paul.
I just wish one of you guys that has one will let me know if you have had any hangs at all and where you see them.
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No hangs here yet.....using it a lot with skype, camera, etc...
My keyboard light works fine. It has to be in low light and you have to press a button before it activates - just opening the keyboard in low light doesn't activate it.
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Yes - same here...
Occasionally I turn the device on and it starts in landscape mode and then switches to portrait ... odd .. because I didn't switch it off in landscape.
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I've not had this happen...
There is an odd moulding mark where the stylus comes out on the curved recessed part of the body
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Same here - but very feint....
Rich
Hi Rich
What are you running at the moment ?
I'm try to find out what is different between my build and yours so I can narrow down possible cause of hang.
Paul.
By the way ... my build is :
So far I have SBSH iLauncher, HandyMenu, HandSwitcher, Legato Mahjong, Billiard Master 3, Bubbleshooter, PDA Mill GameBox Classics, BeJewelled 2, 1-Calc, Phatnotes, PIEPlus, Avantgo, CO2005, Clearvue Office Pro, CPL6, FW2006, imov Messenger, NewsBreak, Resco Explorer (without the Resco Today Plugin) 5.40, Resco PhotoViewer, SBSH Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather, Skype 2, Sprite 5.1, Tweaks2k2, PI2005, FlexMail 2.2, FlexWallet, Cabinstall, Cruxview - all installed on the MicroSD.
Aside from an apparent hang on startup last night which scared me .... I thought I'd need to hard reset but it eventually sorted itself out ... hopefully it is s/w related .... it's all going well. Did a video call with Peter last night which was fine ... first I've done and picture quality not great but usable.
3G is active and working very well. Switches mid call to 2.5g if signal drops to much, but you don't get a chattering issue (i.e. where it regularly switches between the two).
Drove from Hook to Kent with CPL6 and BT GPS yesterday and that was flawless.
Have four phases of Sprite Backup - Different levels of build - so I can decide how far back to go in the event of problems.
Circa 28 mg of program memory following sof reset
Circa 31 mg of storage memory
PB is loading PI Calendar / Tasks / Messaging / Phatnotes / Pocket Weather.
Can someone help me with my wifi problem please. I can get connected to my network ok but IE will not show any pages, it just says wrong settings. I am connected with good signal strengh and thought that i would be able to surf when on my own home network. Most of the time it serches gprs and 3g then shows the error. An idiots step through guide would be helpful. I have searched for hours but came up blank. I also need a walkthrough on how to configue vodafone MMS settings as I cant get that to work either. Customer services isnt much good as the dont really know this device yet. Thanks in advance.
Hey Paul,
I have only the followinig intalled over the base v1605:
skype2
PHM Registry Editor
Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
Aspecto Software WiFiFoFum
Handmark Monopoly
That's it......
Rich
new unit arrived and the sticking key issue is gone thank god. I hve a few things installed now and the phone is running great. I installed agile messenger beta a few minutes ago as no msn client is in the vodaphone rom and the phone looked like it crashed then a few moments later it signed into msn.
1 thing I have noticed is if I mute the volume so I get a x sign near the volune if I click around I.e start menu and click around the operating system I can hear a clicking noise. could someone else test this 4 me I am currently in a quiet room.
also noticed when using pie with keyboard slid out my view will sometimes change from landscape to portrait view and then back to normal which is strange. I am sure my faulty device did this whilst just using the operating system in general use. shed a bit of light to what I have just found is that I just put the phone down open on the case it comes with and the same thing happened it must have something to do with the magnetic metal in the case effecting the phone causing it to rotate lol well that's what I think.
No clicking sound when I mute mine. Haven't really played around with mine yet. Will install everything once I get my microsd card.
Does your phone's keyboard click into place when you slide it open and is it right side only or both? Also did you check your call timers? Are they zero or has calls been made before receiving it?
Just got my TyTN
and all i got was a lousy keyboard..
got the bad keys on my unit. Waiting for response from HTC distributor, but they halted all sales of it until resolved. There are a lot of phones with bad keyboard.
But apart from that it seems to work fine - like the Jasjar in a smaller package.
But I liked the keyboard on my I-mate k-jam a lot better.
My first one had a few keys that weren't great, t, del and spacebar. This one is good for the keyboard. But....my screen is loosing calibration all the time again which is why I was given a replacement. Moves so that it is totaly unusable! Is anyone else experiencing it? If you are not is it a Voadafone one or something else. I've told Vodafone that I'd like another one out of a different batch and they said that they will extend my exchange period for a couple of weeks until some new ones come in. Might call HTC to see if it is a known "feature". Other than that I'm still totally happy with the device and it is much better at memory handling thn the Exec ever was, It never seems to drop below 22mb of program memory after having opened and closed programs for a clouple of days. The exec would have dropped to 17 by the end of the first.
Phil
Is there a reg hack to turn off the blue bluetooth light? I hate having 2 flashing lights on all the time (One blue and one green).
Thanks
I have installed Microsoft voice command 6.1 french and then the blue light turned off!
it is expensive to turn a light off but it works
(by the way if any body knows how to turn it one I'll be pleased to know...)
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Is there a reg hack to turn off the blue bluetooth light? I hate having 2 flashing lights on all the time (One blue and one green).
Thanks
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I will be please to be able to turn the green flashing light off too. I know that the flashing light indicates that the phone is on, but still annoying specially at night (please do not tell me to turn the TC upsidedown)
LOL, that's funny... Any way there has to be a way to turn them both off
There is a way. You know how to do a soft reset - you put a small thing in the reset hole.
If you want to disable the lights, do the same thing, but instead of putting a small thing in the reset hole, you put it on the light. You need to press really really hard... ;-)
However, there is no way to get them turned on again...
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There is a way. You know how to do a soft reset - you put a small thing in the reset hole.
If you want to disable the lights, do the same thing, but instead of putting a small thing in the reset hole, you put it on the light. You need to press really really hard... ;-)
However, there is no way to get them turned on again...
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Thanks for that awsome fix...lol however, I would like a little less violent solution....
This could be done in some devices with Tweaks2k2 .NET (http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/staticpages/index.php?page=20050224182009983). I don't know if this could work for Polaris too.
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This could be done in some devices with Tweaks2k2 .NET (http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/staticpages/index.php?page=20050224182009983). I don't know if this could work for Polaris too.
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No I have this program, tried this first. I doesn't work.
Anyone have an answer?
Try this
Try this one
It works great on my TC. It's written for the Kaiser but also works on the TC. I've turned off all my LED's except when I've missed a sms or call. It's in Dutch but the interface is pretty clear so I don't think you'll have any problem controlling it. If so let me know.
The only downside with this program is that you can't control the WLAN LED. If you turn off the Phone LED (green flickering) the WLAN LED also gets turned off. Another thing is that the orange LED doesn't light up anymore when you charge your device. Hopefully someone will write a similar program especially designed for the TC. But apart from that it's a neat little program.
Cheers.
Found a fix! This program is awsome. It is for the Tilt, but works great on my TC!
Thanks for this.
It seems to be written for the Kaiser and says that its freeware as it installs.
Seems to work fine on my Orbit2.
I've now turned off both my lights as default - they should illuminate if I miss a call / get mail etc.
I do some work with User Interfaces for avionics.
Cardinal rule - "flashing lights are an exception, not default mode of operation".
ALL flashing lights
Thanks for this, works a treat on my Touch Cruise / Orbit 2
Maybe this link deserves its own post... took a while to find it
tigerpower said:
I have installed Microsoft voice command 6.1 french and then the blue light turned off!
it is expensive to turn a light off but it works
(by the way if any body knows how to turn it one I'll be pleased to know...)
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Hmm! That explains why my BlueTooth LED stopped working - I recently installed M$ VC too... Weird.
Anyhow - while you've found a solution to turning off you LEDs, I thought I'd suggest another thing worth looking at for controlling them, for future reference - nueLED... It lets you redirect different LEDs. Still won't turn my BlueTooth LED back on though!
This morning my Touch Pro seems to be in 16 color mode, pink tint to the entire screen like an old EGA monitor. Nothing out of the ordinary, was fine when I put it on the charger last night, was in this state this am.
Any ideas? I am running SSK 1.5 but this seems to be a hardware issue?
If you say it has a pinkish tint to it, it's possible you've lost the Blue part of the video altogether.
Usually, the ribbon cable that goes to a LCD screen works via RGB color, similar to VGA or component video. This means that there are several values that indicate how red, green, and blue a specific pixel is.
Pure white has full amounts of red, green, and blue; black has none.
I'm curious of a few things:
1: Are you sure it's hardware-related? The internal screen connections are usually arrayed something along the lines of:
RR..RRGG..GGBB..BB, where each R/G/B represents a binary bit. This means that is is technically possible to see only 16 colors, if, for example, the cable was loose, but those 16 colors would all theoretically be single shades of the same color (assuming the cable was designed logically.)
You can check to see if it's hardware-related pretty simply. If it's a problem with the connection to the screen or the screen module itself, the display should show up correctly in a program like MyMobiler (http://www.mymobiler.com/). If it's a problem with the graphics chip itself (and this is ever-so-incredibly-unlikely), then you'll know, because it _won't_ go away upon flashing a stock ROM.
If it is a hardware problem , it would almost definitely be that there's a bad connection between the ribbon cable that connects the screen to the board. You can find the service guide on the Wiki; from there it's relatively simple to open and reseat the cable.
2: Did you try hard resetting, soft resetting, etc? I can't imagine what in the hardware itself would cause a true 16-color display on a device that was never designed to operate thus- and that leaves some kind of software problem (though I'm honestly not sure what would cause that either.)
3: It really is, truly, 16-color (or another lower color mode, e.g. 256)? Like, CGA-style? You can only each color as black/blue/green/cyan/red/magenta/brown/white- whichever is closest?
You can check to see if it's hardware-related pretty simply. If it's a problem with the connection to the screen or the screen module itself, the display should show up correctly in a program like MyMobiler (http://www.mymobiler.com/). If it's a problem with the graphics chip itself (and this is ever-so-incredibly-unlikely), then you'll know, because it _won't_ go away upon flashing a stock ROM.
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I use Pocket Controller Pro and the video in that program is full color, no problem. I also flashed to a new ROM (not stock, new SSK) and it made no change
: Did you try hard resetting, soft resetting, etc? I can't imagine what in the hardware itself would cause a true 16-color display on a device that was never designed to operate thus- and that leaves some kind of software problem (though I'm honestly not sure what would cause that either.)
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I have reset everything except my own brain, no changes.
If it is a hardware problem , it would almost definitely be that there's a bad connection between the ribbon cable that connects the screen to the board. You can find the service guide on the Wiki; from there it's relatively simple to open and reseat the cable.
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That's probably the best advice yet, off to the Wiki I go. Thanks.
Kind of a weird problem, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one it happens to. If I plug the Transformer into my TV to say, play SNESoid on the big screen, my sixaxis controller stops working. This only happens when I'm using touch profiles within the sixaxis app. Tried to figure out why, and found that my usable screen space changes as soon as I plug the HDMI cable in. What I mean is, I get a "dead" space between the bottom of my display, and the action bar at the bottom of the screen. Tried two different brand TVs, different cables, different roms, and different kernels and the problem persists.
I know I'm not fully explaining this, because I can't figure out how to put it into words. If no one has figured out my ramblings by the time I get home from work, I'll take screen shots of the problem and post them up.
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Kind of a weird problem, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one it happens to. If I plug the Transformer into my TV to say, play SNESoid on the big screen, my sixaxis controller stops working. This only happens when I'm using touch profiles within the sixaxis app. Tried to figure out why, and found that my usable screen space changes as soon as I plug the HDMI cable in. What I mean is, I get a "dead" space between the bottom of my display, and the action bar at the bottom of the screen. Tried two different brand TVs, different cables, different roms, and different kernels and the problem persists.
I know I'm not fully explaining this, because I can't figure out how to put it into words. If no one has figured out my ramblings by the time I get home from work, I'll take screen shots of the problem and post them up.
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I heard that the newest OTA stock update helps. ICS may help. I hear that revolver new update helps but not for my tv at least. I've also heard there are a few new and updated kernals that solve the problem of dead bar space. I have an AOC HDTV so i am probably screwed.
However, turn off touch profiles. You don't need them for emulators. I've played S3&K several nights with the HDMI cable and six axis app with ps3 controller and it works great. I even make the L3 button access the task bar menu so I can load saves and save easily. Very useful for those pesky super emeralds. I have not dabbed with the touch profiles yet so I don't know.
the hdmi output gives out 720p feed and increases the size of the system bar from whatever size it was to 80px high leaving 720px height usable to apps which will resize them and throw off your touch profiles
Ok... so it is a known issue... good. Any idea if the Prime suffers from the same problem?
I would turn off touch profiles, but i cant stand not having analog control in N64oid
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
its not an issue it is just that most tv's have a 16x9 resolution so having it use a normal resolution will assure that there are no black bars on the tv
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its not an issue it is just that most tv's have a 16x9 resolution so having it use a normal resolution will assure that there are no black bars on the tv
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Well, you're right, the issue is not the tablet.
[rant] The issue is that my tablet and my laptop are 16:10... My TV is 16:9. My bluray movies are 2.39:1. Half the content on cable is 4:3. On top of that, it would seem no one knows which aspect ratio to scale their content to.
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Hello,
as I was looking for this kind of topic information for a long time and searched through many various topics that are by nature really sounding similar, I though I'd share my experiences on using my mobile as home PC replacement.
This thread is intended as a guide to those that want to do the same. As an idea to those that never considered it and as a collection of issues and workarounds found in the daily use.
Again: This thread does not cover anything like Android ON a Desktop Computer but using your mobile phone as a desktop computer.
In those regards, I'm using one or the other software that is what I found doing its job, but I'm very open to improvements and ideas.
Setup:
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (2,2GHz quadcore, 3GB RAM, SM-9005) and Android Kitkat (Slimkat custom rom) runs on it. USB is MHL compatible.
Other Hardware: Aten CS533 a physical keyboard->Bluetooth Adapter, such that you can use your desktop keyboard and mouse on your Mobile. Which is how I'm writing this text by the way.
If you already know everything or don't care for the rest, read the second and the third post.
Daily driver?
As some custom roms describe their status.... I'm using it as daily driver. I have to rethink many things - the UI being the biggest part. Automation helps to get the connection and screen rotation things off your head.
The phone is being charged while I'm connected to the screen as the Adapter wants to have a power supply.
A big change in UI is that the touch based OS is not working too well with the mouse wheel. In this thread I'm writing I cannot scroll up using the mouse wheel. I'll scroll up the page only. I have to press and hold the mouse (=touch) and pull the content to where I want it.
Deleting characters works as well, but here rather slow. It is better to use CTRL+Shift and cursor buttons to highlight words.
You may also forget about marking text with the mouse as you're used to.
You have to press (=touch) a word and then pull the text markers to whereever.
What works well is the CTRL+X, C and V.
Currently I'm logged into XDA and writing and correcting this text with my external keyboard in firefox.
Which brings me to the most important thing... APPS:
Also there are many differences.... I'm using firefox because it happily accepts keyboard commands - CTRL+T opens a new tab, CTRL+W closes it.
Firefox has one issue which I would bring to the developers... When opened, the shared screen is blank. You can see it on your phone, but not on the TV. Workaround: Switch apps to some other app in foreground, switch back to firefox.
Many apps are better than their web-counterparts. And actually faster. But they often cannot do exactly the same, be aware of that. They offer some features and make it easier to use, but some features you may have been used to, are not available. Example: in the ebay app I can't print out shipping documents.
Roughly mentioned - printing:
There are printing apps included in most OS, you can find them in the store. Mine works fine and I can print on my network printer (don't ask me about USB-printers, I doubt, they work well...).
From my office applications (those accept CTRL+P) I can directly print on my printer, once found. That takes some time, because I switch my printer completely off when not in use.
Chats:
work fine. I can switch, use the mouse to get to the statusbar and open the chat notification, switch back to XDA using ALT+TAB.
Emails:
I was using thunderbird and this one I really miss. I has an unmatched search function. It cans earch globally and it can additionally filter text. Very quick. I have one email account since 13 years. Some emails collected. Here I have troubles.
I want to be able to see all emails offline. This can be difficult as many mail applications don't really give you a choice how many emails to download. K9 and the related kaiten offer this. They can download all mails. However.... This makes the operation in that account slow. Searching doesn't work well and deleting mail leads to app crashes. I'm working with it, because I didn't find a good alternative. Not many people possibly care for that though.
So you see, there are upsides and downsides.
+ Upsides are certainly the purpose driven apps, you have plenty for any kind of purpose. Even you can change the OS layout (If you know linux this is possibly normal anyways )
+ You save money and energy
+ You always have your PC with you
+ One UI everywhere
+ Beter than anyone else you know how to connect your phone to a beamer and do a presentation
Downsides:
- It is a mobile PC. It is using its resources much more efficiently than its desktop alternative. Because it doesn't have many. I wouldn't dare doing video encoding here.
- Surfing is slower - sometimes it seems that is actually because of my phone. I've seen other phones with weaker configurations performing faster than mine. Dolphin seems to perform much faster than Firefox.
- Rethink your input
- Desktop Applications are not possible. If you have one specific type of application you'll have to find an alternative on Android or forget it. Games, Photobook applications, Thunderbird, Blurays, are all kind of difficult...
Additional notes:
There are some interesting projects like Andromium OS that want to change the UI appearance, like a launcher that resembles the desktop Windows/Linux with a start menu. At the current beta state, I personally like my old way better, but it is looking good.
Your choice to accept the downsides. I mostly do.
Sorry for this long and splitted post, but it seems like XDA has a maximum letter count when posting but the post warning doesn't tell you so.
This is the second post, to show some details of the journey...
From the beginning:
Why?
I had a desktop PC, in fact a tablet PC, 18" and was satisfied with it. Linux ran on it quite fine. Over time I noticed that I normally use it for surfing. Not even for something useful. Most things I was using on the PC I found I was using in parallel on Android. For example, ebay, banking, sometimes the browser, funny additions like xkcd, dilbert, chats... List goes on...
Since I know my phone supports MHL, that is using an adapter to get video mirror from phone to TV over HDMI I was looking for a keyboard replacement. Also I heard before keyboards can be used on android.
Soooo I forced myself to actually to that. I sold my PC and while ebay was running I tried to get the needed hardware.
Doing:
In fact it was very easy to find the MHL adapter. I have already a cheap one with a long cable, but sometimes the screen turns blue. Normally that happens when the screen is on, and the device is idle. I thought of buying an original Samsung Adapter.
There is actually no difference, using the Samsung or the cheap one. It seems to be related to the Apps which are in foreground. Here, it is firefox, no issue with it. These days, I don't see that issue anymore. It seems that it is not related to the power supply. Anyways it worked.
A problem was that I want to use my expensive silent keyboard and not buy another bluetooth keyboard. As you may know that if you search for android hardware keyboard you'll find possibly a million ways to use your phone keyboard as input method on the PC (what the heck?). There are a few breadcrumbs leading you to something useful. Once I found a keyboard adapter that translates only my keyboard to Bluetooth, but since my mouse was futile then, I didn't want it. Same reason why I don't want to use OTG. And I'm already using the one USB port on the mobile for the screen mirroring.
Later that evening I found my current solution, working rather good, the Aten CS533. I small docking station like thing that can get two input devices to bluetooth which I can connect the mobile to.
Be careful when using it: My original Logilink mouse didn't work well with it. Scrollwheel moved the pointer up and down. Any mouse movement moved the pointer down, left and right. Sicne it didn't move up, that was, well pointless. I changed the mouse to some generic Dell mouse and this works fine.
Experiences:
SCREEN: Using some automation software normally keeps my phone working well; since the screen on the mobile is always displayed readable on the TV, meaning not upside down or so, the screen if in portrait, fills only the middle third of the TV. To use it properly my automation software says IF connected to the adapter THEN turn on screen rotation. The phone normally lying horizontally. Since this phones resolution matches the TVs, 1080p it looks pretty good.
Look and feel:
It is Android, a touch based OS, unlike Windows or Linux. So your touchscreen is not imitating a mouse, but your mouse is imitating touch input. My mouse buttons all work as touch. Clicking means touching. As far as I know there are no shortcuts here. To start an app you have to do the same actions with your mouse as you would with your finger on the screen. From the home screen open the app drawer by the button, possibly swipe to the app by clicking, holding the mouse button and moving the screen accordingly.
The keyboard is a different thing. I don't know about others, but here are some shortcuts.
The ESC button is my home button, the context menu button maps the phones menu button.
Surprisingly alt+tab work in Android as task switcher, even though I only have the last 8 apps in there and the behaviour is a bit different from the PC. Alt+tab to open the menu, another tab to switch to the second app. And there is some waiting time of possibly half a second.
The keyboard works fine; page up/down, end, pos1, del, backspace, enter work fine. CTRL, alt, Shift are normally mapped. You can use TAB to change input fields as well.
Missing so far is.... the "back" button. I have not found an equivalent of the back button on the keyboard. Since my phone isn't far away, I normally press the phones back button if I need it.
As you see, operating works, even though you have to get used to it. On the other side, it didn't take me too long...
for more details go on with the third post.
Input:
A word on input is required. Keyboard input. What? Again? Well... this is about the keyboard apps you're using. In my case I use swype and I like it most. I hate all software keyboards because their interpretation is weird and their grammar interpretation is often wrong, especially in german.
Swype however recognizes the external keyboard and displays an extra line on the bottom of the screen with the word suggestions I'm typing. Since I'm using a real keyboard I don't want corrections. Since I use the phone often without keyboard, I don't want to switch swype off completely either.
I have another issue which is that I'm typing korean from time to time and up to here I hadn't even thought about it. Swype can do that but still I didn't want to have that extra correction bar. Plus... no idea how to switch the input. The swype input switcher is missing since I'm only having the correction bar.
Quick idea was that I know a very small korean keyboard app so I could possibly switch from swype to the other, while connected to the CS533. Didn't work so well since I still have no way of switching other than the settings - but at least the correction bar is gone.
Here I found the app "External Keyboard Helper" which was written for exactly that. It seems like some people already did what I'm doing, so I wonder why you don't find so many descriptions. Anyways... that app allows you to write normally and change layouts using keyboard shortcuts. Here I'm using CTRL+Shift*space to change to korean layout: 안녕하새요 (Hello)
Anyways... that app allows you to write normally and change layouts using keyboard shortcuts.
I haven't completely looked through the app, but it seems you can get in some keymappings.
So I could map the "back" hard key from the phone to the otherwise useless Windowsbutton. My audio app is rewinding with a keyboard keypress and using shilt+alt+m I can start my mail app.
So now via automation I'm switching the input method to the external keyboard helper, when connected to the CS533 and back to swype when the connection is lost.
This was the last post. Hopefully it is useful for some that are trying to do exactly the same and get sick of those PC remote control apps...
:good::good::good::good:
And this works to. Partly a bit weird to connect.....
But:
From mobile via
OTG
To an sd/hdmi/usb adapter
Hdmi to tv, sd not tested and from
USB to another active usb hub:
The hub connects Gamepad, keyboard and mouse to the android. This is like a cable spider with one plug for the phone. A diving station.
Nice!
Best experience I had with the Dockingstation from Samsung EDD-D200.
Here the phone charges upwards while in use, I have 3 USB ports and Keyboard is recognized well.
HDMI only works at max [email protected], or [email protected] Using apps you can rotate the screen when docked.
Biggest difference is that I REALLY have a docking station. leave HDMI, USB plugged and then just connect the mobile. It should then directly work and the screen is shared to the TV. This is now much more comfortable.
Word of advices:
-for that docking station you'd better have a 5.3V power supply. 5.0V will not make USB or HDMI work.
-there is for the Note 3 another interesting docking station by Samsung, EE-MT800. It has an ethernetport and USB, flexbile connection cable. But the docking station only seems to work on a few tablets, which is a bit sad. It didn't work on my Samsung Galaxy Note 3, even though the MHL3 Adapter from Samsung works flawless ([email protected]).
I used a knife to alter the stand if that docking station so I can place my mobile with the protection cover in it. Works fine now.
Don't get the idea that there's a nice cable in the station which you could extend. It is an extension of the PCB and it is fixed.
I commissioned to Samsung why their docking station ee-mt800 is only compatible to a few tablets. And why you would want to connect a only stand type docking station to a horizontal TV of monitor, resulting in a vertical picture.... And 2/3 blank screen...