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Has anyone defected from note 2? I am really eager to pull the trigger myself. Getting tired of flashing roms just want pure google stock experience. I am having a tough time letting go of this insane battery life tho as well as the 5.5 screen. How is the camera compared to note 2? Thanks for info!
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I did but I'm kinda regretting activating my nexus right away because I've lost hotspot now. The speaker Note2 seems louder than the N5. I was having second thoughts about going to a smaller screen but I find it easier to read text on N5. At first the N5 seemed small but they did a good job squeezing a 5in screen in.
I did. Only reason I did though is because my Note 2 screen has been acting up every since I had the glass replaced. I also had the spare battery cradle/charger with the note 2, so going from literally never having to charge my phone (only swap batteries every other day) is going to be pretty rough. Overall I was with you though, tired of flashing roms to get latest android. It is smaller, but definitely not terribly small like some other phones out there. Camera differences are negligible, but I only did a side by side in my room with the light on, so take that for what it's worth.
I'll probably be selling the note 2 on ebay/craigslist once I finally get it fixed. Nexus 5 seems like a solid device, already got some goodies coming for it, including a wireless charging pad.
I'm jumping ship. I'm just tired of having insane specs on a phone just to run TouchWiz. I've tried some AOSP ROMs but seems like there's always a small issue or two that keeps from being a great daily driver. I'm currently on CM 10.1 but still run into issues with GPS and camera.
I'm going to Nexus to run pure Android. I don't need s-pens and cameras watching me watching my phone. My only concern switching is related to Sprint, not N5. Sprint has an awesome visual voicemail feature which doesn't seem to be working well with Hangouts on the Note 2. I'll have to see how voicemail is handled on the N5 since Sprint is hands off.
I am jumping from the Note 2 as well. Just time for something new. I would have gone with the Note 3, but the lack of access to Sprint Spark network was a deal breaker. The size reduction will be welcome, though. Even though I like the Note 2 size well enough, it does get in the way at times.
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I'm jumping ship as well. Don't get me wrong, I love my Galaxy Note 2, but as others have said, I value having the latest version of Android without the bloatware. I also find that when I'm going somewhere where I know I will be heavily surfing the net or otherwise needing a large screen, I take my Nexus 7 or Chromebook Pixel. The need for a phablet, while novel at first, has really just become cumbersome to carry around. I also rarely use the S-Pen. The AMOLED screen always annoyed me too -- way over-saturated (great blacks, though). I look forward to OIS on the N5, as a sharp picture on the Note2 is as rare as hen's teeth. The only things I will really miss are the microSD card, removable battery, and OEM flip cover (with built in back cover).
Wow i didnt expect so many replies in such short time. I agree with most of your comments. The battery might not be that big of an issue. I can buy a spare charger and keep it in my office as well as one in the car and i am covered all the way. Not having to wait for samsung to update the software will be a blessing. Besides 4.3 isnt even out and kit kat will be the last update and it might not even come around till early 2015 the way they are going. They have already decided not to port over all of the note 3 features on the 2. All these years i have been flashing and dealing with bugs and annoyances. Time to get something that works out of the box and gets timely updates.
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Wow i didnt expect so many replies in such short time. I agree with most of your comments. The battery might not be that big of an issue. I can buy a spare charger and keep it in my office as well as one in the car and i am covered all the way. Not having to wait for samsung to update the software will be a blessing. Besides 4.3 isnt even out and kit kat will be the last update and it might not even come around till early 2015 the way they are going. They have already decided not to port over all of the note 3 features on the 2. All these years i have been flashing and dealing with bugs and annoyances. Time to get something that works out of the box and gets timely updates.
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i was debating between a note 3, g2, and the n5. and it's posts like these that make me glad I waited and am getting the n5. my only other android device is the N4, so bloatware, delayed updates, and bugs with custom roms is something that I thought about, but never put too much weight behind them until i see posts like this
I have a gnii and should get my nexus 5 tomorrow. I am hesitant to goto a smaller screen...I love the gigantic glowing blob of a phone. I have the r950 us cellular note 2...so dev. Is limited. I can wait for the plethora of roms and kernels. The s-pen is cool and all...although i havent ran a stock rom for ages. So i dont think I will miss using it to draw dicks on the snapchats all that much.
have high hopes for the nexus, enough to pay my etf and ditch the contract life. USCC sucks so much. That is another huge reason I'm counting on this new nexus.
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I'm jumping ship as well. Don't get me wrong, I love my Galaxy Note 2, but as others have said, I value having the latest version of Android without the bloatware. I also find that when I'm going somewhere where I know I will be heavily surfing the net or otherwise needing a large screen, I take my Nexus 7 or Chromebook Pixel. The need for a phablet, while novel at first, has really just become cumbersome to carry around. I also rarely use the S-Pen. The AMOLED screen always annoyed me too -- way over-saturated (great blacks, though). I look forward to OIS on the N5, as a sharp picture on the Note2 is as rare as hen's teeth. The only things I will really miss are the microSD card, removable battery, and OEM flip cover (with built in back cover).
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QFT. I really liked having a phablet when I didn't have a good small form tablet to turn to. Also, I found that actually writing/drawing on the Note 2 was difficult. I now have a Note 8, which is the perfect size for that kind of functionality. Now I can return to a smaller form factor for my phone.
I, too, will miss the HUGE, removable battery. But those are the breaks. I'm hoping that battery performance for me is at least good enough to approximate my Note 2 use. May be picking up a battery pack at some point, too.
So, I have Had my AT&T Note edge since around April 2015. When I first Got the phone I was very happy with the new innovation of the edge screen and found it quite useful. Before, I had the Note 2 and I was in love with it, I had many different roms and dev's are still coming out with new roms for it and the only reason I got the new phone is because the screen cracked and I did not want to pay another 150$'s for a phone that was worth less than that on eBay.
Since receiving my note edge I have found nothing but problems with it (obviously after honeymoon period with the edge screen, lol). The battery life is abysmal at best, the screen transitions are slow and tedious at times, sometimes I have to launch the task manager and clean the apps(which that in enough itself is a challenge to get to launch), even if I am only using 20% of my memory. To put a little perspective on this, I have been rooting/jail breaking phones since the first iPhone came out back in 2007 and I have also switched out hardware on phones so I do know what I am doing and I realized when I bought the phone that it may be a while till a decent root/rom came out for the phone but honestly not one root or one rom for the AT&T note edge has come out.
I bought the phone knowing I would have to wait for a root/rom but I did not expect stock to be so terrible. Even after the lollipop update, the phone may have gotten a little worse, to the point where sometimes my screen will stay black when I get a phone call then when the phone almost stops ringing the screen will come on and I can then answer (most of the time). To say I am disappointed in Samsung would be an understatement. Mind you, I fell in love with my note 2 and had it until it was non functioning anymore and more expensive to fix than replace. I have nothing but praise for Samsung but they really let me down with this phone.
I have taken all the steps I can think of to increase performance even to the point of just wiping it clean and starting from scratch and it's still no where close to the performance of my note 2
All this is to ask if anyone out there can give me some suggestions of a phone that A) has the ability to be rooted B) has sufficient roms out there to test out and find a good one. Money is not a problem but I figured that this would be one of the best places to ask because I am sure all you note edge fanboys and girls were looking at other phones before you decided on the note edge and I am sure there are other people like me who probably had too high of expectations for the note edge.
I would also consider staying with the edge if the root/rom would come out soon, but I honestly don't see that happening in the near future.
Also one last thing, I am not opposed to any brand or model I just prefer a 5" screen or bigger. Also, I have checked out the Neptune Suite which looks incredible. unfortunately, I can't post a link but just search it and you'll find it.
You can get root. It's just tough. The recommended way (depending on your variant) is to get CWM and root through recovery then flash whatever recovery you want to use. For me its TWRP. The above method works on my SM-N915G.
One thing I have seen and am a bit butt hurt by is the significant downturn on custom roms for this device, or at least for my variant. The note 4 has had heaps of dev work however this beauty of a phone has been neglected. More than likely die to uptake. I just hope that they bring out an edge 2 this year and that is widely taken up, so we can get some damn customisation. I hate this 5.0.1 touch wiz rom. I have constant lag issues and its just not on. However I digress. It's a beast of a phone. Just don't expect to many roms available seeing as it is hitting end of life i.e. new version coming soon
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You can get root. It's just tough. The recommended way (depending on your variant) is to get CWM and root through recovery then flash whatever recovery you want to use. For me its TWRP. The above method works on my SM-N915G.
One thing I have seen and am a bit butt hurt by is the significant downturn on custom roms for this device, or at least for my variant. The note 4 has had heaps of dev work however this beauty of a phone has been neglected. More than likely die to uptake. I just hope that they bring out an edge 2 this year and that is widely taken up, so we can get some damn customisation. I hate this 5.0.1 touch wiz rom. I have constant lag issues and its just not on. However I digress. It's a beast of a phone. Just don't expect to many roms available seeing as it is hitting end of life i.e. new version coming soon
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I completely agree with you that the note edge is a beast. It has all the features I was looking for in a phone EXCEPT the fact that the rooting is a mission and when you're finally done, there is little to no reward. I would have rooted a while ago but the root seems fishy at best and the temp root... well, its a temp root, lol. I miss my note 2 just for the pure simple fact that they had every single rom you could think of for that thing, hell, I would even switch to the note 4 if it was more heavily supported. Honestly, I am just saddened by AT&T's choice to lock everything and Samsung's horrific TouchWiz UI. We all know its awful. I am a die hard samsung fanboy but man, they are letting the ball drop. like the note 5, possible no removable back? What is this HTC?! I hope AT&T/Samsung realize that locking the bootloader is a pointless exercise. What modder out there ever returns their stuff for warranty?! Enough of the rant. I am most likely going to be switching to T-mobile by the end of this year(for other reasons than the phone) and was wondering if there is a better options than the note edge coming soon?
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You can get root. It's just tough. The recommended way (depending on your variant) is to get CWM and root through recovery then flash whatever recovery you want to use. For me its TWRP. The above method works on my SM-N915G.
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also, from everything I have read, there is no secure root for the SM-N915A. I could be wrong but I don't think so unfortunately
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also, from everything I have read, there is no secure root for the SM-N915A. I could be wrong but I don't think so unfortunately
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There is ROOT, for an SM-N915A but you have to be on kitkat and NOT lollipop. Also root for this device is "TEMP" and not permanent, after a reboot, you loose root.
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There is ROOT, for an SM-N915A but you have to be on kitkat and NOT lollipop. Also root for this device is "TEMP" and not permanent, after a reboot, you loose root.
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That's the problem, If it was a perm root. I wouldn't be so negative about this phone but since its only Temp. I feel like I kind of got cheated with this phone. It's powerful but a hog with its power, its got a great display but mainly because of the edge, and a nice size battery that, again, gets killed by the display(even at low brightness) I might have just got a lemon from the start, its happened before. I just wish that rooting this phone was easier and more satisfying than "oh sweet, I was able to root my phone! Better not restart and better be okay with the non existent roms out for it right now!"
More than likely because when Samsung released this model, they initially said that they were going to drop only 1000 units so as to "test the market waters" for the device. So sad to see because she really is a beaut. I won't be moving to a Note 4, I have a new phone owed to me by my carrier this month, so I will be waiting to see what this years Note/Note Edge offering is and I will make the change then, Fingers crossed they do run with the Note Edge design. Also too, if they follow suit with their Note lines of phone as they have with Their Galaxy S line (no expandable memory, no removable back plate) I will not be buying Samsung again. Other than the lengthy feature set for the Note Edge, the fact that they have expandable memory was the tipping point for me. Failing that I will be going elsewhere from now on. Sad to say it, but Samsung is following in Apples footsteps by telling the consumer what they can and cannot do with a device that they choose to buy.
Every Android device I've ever owned has been rooted the same day (if possible) and tinkered with. I'm addicted to installing ROMS and xposed modules and whatever new thing is out there.
I have the chance to get a brand new in box, stock Note 12.2 running KitKat. I'll update it to Lollipop if I buy it. Thing is, the device is already nearing 3 years old and I am not sure if it's worth it for a device with no root or custom ROM.
My question is:
Despite the limitations - is it still a nice device for $200. Is there sluggishness or any reason to say no? I still would like to use it with general items.
This is the best tablet I've ever owned. Screen protection is a must as I scratched mine within the first few days, but I've had it since the initial release date....Still use it daily. Great for reading books, comics, and PDF files. I take tons of notes on it at work and I use ArtFlow for digital painting.
Is this a deal for everyone, or is it specific to new accounts? I'd be tempted to get a second one and retire mine for my kids.
Thanks. Is it worth paying $200 today though? I really like how it looks, but wonder if it's past it's prime. (I'd hate to get bored of it within a day or two.)
It's only a deal for me. At my friends last job they gave everyone the devices, and he's never used it. Still in the original packing with original plastic. He booted it up once and never again.
I'd have it contract-free.
$200 may be a finite number but its value can be subjective . . You haven't noted any compelling reasons to get a Note Pro over other tablets, which makes determining value even harder. Everyone's use case is different. For me, 2 years ago when this thing came out I bought one as soon as it hit the store shelves and a couple of months in destroyed it by forgetting it on the roof of a company truck (flew off on the highway and got crushed by a semi) . . I bought another one a month or two later. Were I to lose this Note Pro today I'd certainly drop $200 down for one but if I couldn't get one for under $500 I'd probably go hog wild on an i5 256GB Surface Pro 4 instead.
Reading your original post my first thought was "Hmm is there root and custom recovery for the Verizon variant?" followed by "I wonder if there's custom ROMs for it . . " It's not like there's a ton of development for the WiFi variant let alone the carrier specific ones. I'm not saying there aren't custom ROMs or root for the 905V . . just saying you should verify before purchase.
Bought it and I love it so far. Running 4.4.2 rooted.
2 last questions:
1) I am guessing xposed won't be available since there is no recovery to flash it? Is there an alternative way? I'll check when I get home tonight.
2) All I want is to change the DPI, if I screw it up, is it just possible to boot to the normal recovery and reset the thing? I haven't tried messing around in the stock recovery yet. (Tonight!)
Thanks!
I have both the Samsung Note Pro and the SAmsung S2 Tablet. I like the S2 a lot better. The Note Pro got to a point where it's lagging and slow responses with each button press. It's also quite heavy and the GPU is weak for games like FFRK. The S2 is the best tablet so far, very fast, light, fingerprint reader, plays games like a champ.
I was the previous owner of the the Samsung Galaxy S1 and the S2. I skipped the S3 but got the S4. All the phones I got were the international unlocked versions. Samsung left a very sour taste in my mouth with the S4 because it was stuck on Android 4.4.4 for a long long time despite Android 5.0 being released. I eventually gave up the wait and moved over to the Nexus 5 which I'm still rocking now. I love the quick updates and the monthly security updates too. The S5 didn't seem that much better than the S4 so I skipped it and the S6 seemed dreadful due to the changes they made so I skipped that. However the S7 has gotten me interested again for the following reasons:
1. Much bigger battery.
2. Expandable storage is back after the S6.
3. (Supposedly) much reduced bloatware.
4. One of the best displays on any smartphone (as reported by http://www.displaymate.com).
5. A really nice design and they didn't increase the phone screen size (I loathe manufacturers who keep increasing the phone screen size. Admittedly, 5.1" is still bigger than I'd like but only just).
The only thing I have concerns about is how slow Samsung may be with releasing future Android OS updates for the phone. My experience with the S4 and what I've heard about the S5 and S6 is that Samsung are pretty good with updates for the first 4 months of their new phone's release. Mainly because a delayed update during this period would really hurt their sale numbers. However, after 4 months, they really drag their feet and it's almost like it's become the lowest priority. I know it'll never be as good as Nexus but how good are Samsung compared to other manufacturers?
Edit: I've rooted and done custom ROMs in the past but I'm really reluctant to go down this path again.
What do people think?
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I was the previous owner of the the Samsung Galaxy S1 and the S2. I skipped the S3 but got the S4. All the phones I got were the international unlocked versions. Samsung left a very sour taste in my mouth with the S4 because it was stuck on Android 4.4.4 for a long long time despite Android 5.0 being released. I eventually gave up the wait and moved over to the Nexus 5 which I'm still rocking now. I love the quick updates and the monthly security updates too. The S5 didn't seem that much better than the S4 so I skipped it and the S6 seemed dreadful due to the changes they made so I skipped that. However the S7 has gotten me interested again for the following reasons:
1. Much bigger battery.
2. Expandable storage is back after the S6.
3. (Supposedly) much reduced bloatware.
4. One of the best displays on any smartphone (as reported by http://www.displaymate.com).
5. A really nice design and they didn't increase the phone screen size (I loathe manufacturers who keep increasing the phone screen size. Admittedly, 5.1" is still bigger than I'd like but only just).
The only thing I have concerns about is how slow Samsung may be with releasing future Android OS updates for the phone. My experience with the S4 and what I've heard about the S5 and S6 is that Samsung are pretty good with updates for the first 4 months of their new phone's release. Mainly because a delayed update during this period would really hurt their sale numbers. However, after 4 months, they really drag their feet and it's almost like it's become the lowest priority. I know it'll never be as good as Nexus but how good are Samsung compared to other manufacturers?
What do people think?
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If you want fast updates, go with the nexus 6P/nexus 5x. Pretty sure the S7 won't be updated to Android N until February of next year (if not later depending on how much new stuff there is). Or wait for the next Nexus. Samsung really sucks when it comes to updates, but luckily the stock firmwares are usually fast and smooth enough for me not to care about not having the latest version.
FWIW the international S6 received marshmallow officially last month before any of the carrier branded ones.
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Samsung is the slowest with updates, and they usually filled with problems, on mine Note 5 i tried now the Android 6.0.1 rom and had few major problems, roll back to 5.1.1.
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FWIW the international S6 received marshmallow officially last month before any of the carrier branded ones.
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Which is why I only go for SIM free phones because carrier branded phones just add another layer of complete ball ache and bureaucracy to an already problematic OS update process. So not to be mean anything, but comparing the update delay to carrier branded phones doesn't really say much at all.
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Samsung is the slowest with updates, and they usually filled with problems, on mine Note 5 i tried now the Android 6.0.1 rom and had few major problems, roll back to 5.1.1.
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It's a real shame because Samsung has so much potential. They've got a lot of budget to throw more resources (or acquire the resources if needed) to get more timely updates. If they did, they would gain so many more consumers as they'd appreciate the better support. Samsung have a very short sighted strategy at the moment.
You right and many users smart and even sheeps throwing them to the pit, i had many GS3 and 4 heck even S5 users that swore never to use samsung, and while they all like my Note 5 and agree it's the best phone atm, they never buy it just because they know that sammy is behind with it, literally with updates.
I can see it in my own eyes, October was the last time i got an update, Note 4 users left in the dust, while G4 G3 got Android 6 running for 3 months.... only now some S6 and edge variants getting 6.0.1.
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You right and many users smart and even sheeps throwing them to the pit, i had many GS3 and 4 heck even S5 users that swore never to use samsung, and while they all like my Note 5 and agree it's the best phone atm, they never buy it just because they know that sammy is behind with it, literally with updates.
I can see it in my own eyes, October was the last time i got an update, Note 4 users left in the dust, while G4 G3 got Android 6 running for 3 months.... only now some S6 and edge variants getting 6.0.1.
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Everyone keeps on putting the slow updates on Samsung when indeed, they just push the updates to the carriers and it is the carriers that drag there feet so that customers get pissed off and just change devices. Remember that the carriers have to add there bloat to the updates, it is not just Samsung.
That right for carrier versions, i'm talking about internation unlocked model like mine, N920C.
Carriers slow it down, but samsung has more interrest in making you buy a new phone than updating a one or two years old phone. Just look at apple or sony, there you see how also older phones get an update.
Samsung never honoured the 18 month update cycle for Note 3 either.
Their SW update process is broken - either on purpose or alternatively due to lack of competence/resources.
Regardless, if you buy Samsung, you will not be first to get major updates (X.0), sometimes you don't get for your model at all (even though 18months is officially promised) and the security patches you pretty much need to hunt down / patch yourself.
So, buyer beware.
It's ok to delay the update if they gonna optimize it further, but i don't feel it's the case with 6.0.1 as it have some weird bugs and apparently new "feature".
Samsung never details the updates and they never honored the security updates, mine n920c last update was in October some were lucky and got January security update.
They really should stop selling devices until they can support them, you buy the best product they can make to receive the worst support ever, low end sammy phones never get any updates.
After thinking about it lots and doing a lot of googling about the topic, as much as I really do love what S7 will bring to the table, it is Samsung crappy software support that has put me off. It's unacceptable that Samsung provides such poor support for their flagship phone.
I've decided to hold out for the 2016 Nexus phone. I'm sure it won't be as advanced as the S7 but that'll be a small downside compared to the much better software support.
I truly hope someone at Samsung is reading this so they can take note as to how much poor software support is hurting their profits.
If you want fast updates then Nexus but my personal opinion is that Sammy isn't too bad on the update front. They do release a load of phones and with all their skins etc a fair amount of work is required before they can push out their flavour of new updates.
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The longest I have kept a phone over the past few years is 8 months lol, so I'm not too worried about updates as sad as that is. If this phone turns out to be especially great, I could see myself keeping it for a year, but I can't really imagine keeping a phone for 18 months or two years. Although my wife and I do want to have a baby within the next year, so maybe my priorities will change and I will stop caring about having the latest phone. I am an Android and iOS app developer by profession though, so I sort of use that to justify buying phones all the time.
I'm not sure if I'd like to continue using Samsung, now that the snapdragon versions can't be bootloader unlocked anymore.
I find it extremely frustrating not being able to downgrade my OS from bad updates.
I'm also very frustrated not to be able to do full nandroid backups (including EFS).
Not having any custom roms is also very disappointing.
If exynos didn't have such bad idle battery life, I'd use exynos.
At this point, I think the only thing I'm attracted to on the samsung devices is the color from their amoled.
Good or bad, I'd like to hear you snapdragon users give your opinion on how happy you are with the current samsung snapdragon devices, what would be your ideal alternative device to samsung? And why?
Also, let me know if you're a generic user or hardcore enthusiast.
I've had a Note since the Note 4...which was an absolutely amazing device in my opinion. Most of the stuff I own are Samsung products...except for my laptop. They have quality products...but every year I find it harder to justify the price tag...considering all the competition there is now...amazing devices for much less. I currently have the Note 10 now but I don't really think I'll upgrade to the next one next year. Especially with how far OnePlus devices have come among other devices. Maybe the next Pixel will be worth the upgrade. I used to root, custom roms and all that as well. But, for me it's mostly the price tag that's turning me away from Samsung.
Back in the day of ****ty OEM skins, I was a crack flasher and used TWRP & TiBU almost daily. But Samsung One UI has come a long way since Touchwiz. I actually enjoy using the stock ROM and don't feel the need to immediately wipe it with something else. It already offers 95% of what I'd fix with a custom ROM. I honestly don't miss wiping it and starting all over with each new version of a custom ROM. All of my important files are stored in the cloud or email, and I don't use any apks that are unavailable outside of the Play Store, apk mirror or other web sites, so no need to backup those. I use Adguard which does a great job, so no need to root just for adblocking. I use CCSWE App Manager to disable bloatware that I will never use. My Note 10 battery lasts all day every day, so no need to flash tweaks/mods to eek out more juice. Overall, I really have no need to root anymore. But if I absolutely *had* to root my phone today, I'd probably go with something from OnePlus. I had a P2XL which was a great phone for its time, but the new Pixels are just meh imo. Their camera system is the only thing that sets them apart. The rest of the phone is underwhelming and overpriced for what you get.
Yeah Samsung screens are amazing, and so is there hardware. Example i was trying to WI-FI Direct Joker to my mates Huawei P20 or something can't really remember exact model around 7/8 mins in it was around 40% ish percent i had a phone call i had to run, so i came back 20 mins later used WI-FI direct again we must have got up to 60% this was well over ten mins he had to shoot see what I’m trying to say yeah Huawei, Apple and all the other manufactures are good,
But you can’t beat Samsung hardware. i WI-FI directed the joker it's 2.4 gig file size from my Tab S SM-T705 LTE which is 5 years old to my Note 9 in under 3 mins also my Tab S 8.4 picks up most Wi-Fi hotspots i work in a car park i have tried few year old iPhone and Huawei witch is last year’s model its co-workers phone they pick up eff all i would have to go out of the car park to pick up the hotspots while my Samsung Tab S from 2014 picks up all the free Wi-Fi networks Apple Huawei use trash hardware Samsung hardware Rocks!
People think yeah I’m paying half of what Samsung is charging but when it comes to little things that actually matter in real world usage that's where Samsung is leaps ahead of the competition.
Samsung Snapdragon bootloaders have been locked for years. I used the Note 8 as my primary device for 2 years, and have been using the Note 10+ since release date. The battery life just keeps getting better. I haven't had a reason to root since the Note 4. Android updates don't seem to change much in recent years, they mainly just make the overall system smoother. I've never felt like a previous version was better than the recent update. Overall, I'd rather give Samsung my money to keep making quality products with premium hardware. I also use Dex daily with my Surface Pro.