Hello everyone, my name is Ryan.
Purchased a Samsung Tab S2 with the intention of using it as a replacement for my phone. The tablet currently has a data share plan on it with my Note 4 for Bell Mobility in Canada.
My plan was to switch the two SIM cards out into one another so my phone has just the data, and my tablet has the data, calling, and SMS. I was under the impression from the sails person that I could replace EVERY function of my phone with the tablet. Unfortunately calling seems to be... less than an option. I didn't realize that they would have disabled the function entirely from the device. Even under "Mobile networks" and "Network mode" I only have the option of using either: LTE/WCDMA (auto connect) or WCDMA. Where my phone (despite now having the tablets SIM card with only data sharing (does that matter?)) has the options: GSM only, WCDMA only, WCDMA/GSM (auto connect), and LTE/WCDMA/GSM (auto connect).
My question is, due to lack of info on Bell website about specifications for the device, does the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 (Model# SM-T817W, Android version: 6.0.1) support GSM calling? It seems to not support it directly through software, or avoids it some how. So, does it have the capability of making/receiving calls? I am NOT looking for a VoIP program, I simply want to use the calling that I pay for on my tablet instead of on my phone.
If it DOES have the capability to do so, but is lacking the software/firmware to do so, how would one go about installiung that? I would prefer if I could, not to install an entire OS, as I saw that the Tab 10.1 I think it was had something that just unlocked calling on it, see link for info.
See: Can't post link because I am a new, sorry.
Thanks
Ryan
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Hello everyone, my name is Ryan.
Purchased a Samsung Tab S2 with the intention of using it as a replacement for my phone. The tablet currently has a data share plan on it with my Note 4 for Bell Mobility in Canada.
My plan was to switch the two SIM cards out into one another so my phone has just the data, and my tablet has the data, calling, and SMS. I was under the impression from the sails person that I could replace EVERY function of my phone with the tablet. Unfortunately calling seems to be... less than an option. I didn't realize that they would have disabled the function entirely from the device. Even under "Mobile networks" and "Network mode" I only have the option of using either: LTE/WCDMA (auto connect) or WCDMA. Where my phone (despite now having the tablets SIM card with only data sharing (does that matter?)) has the options: GSM only, WCDMA only, WCDMA/GSM (auto connect), and LTE/WCDMA/GSM (auto connect).
My question is, due to lack of info on Bell website about specifications for the device, does the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 (Model# SM-T817W, Android version: 6.0.1) support GSM calling? It seems to not support it directly through software, or avoids it some how. So, does it have the capability of making/receiving calls? I am NOT looking for a VoIP program, I simply want to use the calling that I pay for on my tablet instead of on my phone.
If it DOES have the capability to do so, but is lacking the software/firmware to do so, how would one go about installiung that? I would prefer if I could, not to install an entire OS, as I saw that the Tab 10.1 I think it was had something that just unlocked calling on it, see link for info.
See: Can't post link because I am a new, sorry.
Thanks
Ryan
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upon searching i couldn't find the exact version of your device model. are you sure that it supported voice calling and the salesman confirmed this?
Would it be possible to call samsung customer care to confirm the model you have does support voice/gsm
In the English USER manual for the Mate 9, there is a section under CALL SETTINGS that tells you how to Enable VoWi-Fi. They actually use this wording in the directions " Touch SETTINGS > Wi-Fi calling"
WiFi calling options are NOT present in the call settings menu for my Mate 9 (6GB/128 GB Model MHA-AL00 / Build Number: MHA-AL00 C00B137). I have the 2 SIM version sold by a HK seller on eBay.
My questions...
Is the manual is describing something different from the WiFi Calling from T Mobile that I'm very familiar with?
I use T Mobile as my USA carrier and have a T Mobile phone that does Wi Fi calling very nicely.
I put the same T Mobile SIM in my Mate 9...but the WiFi calling options STILL don't appear.
Is the Mate 9 really compatible with WiFi calling? What am I doing wrong?
Thank you.
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In the English USER manual for the Mate 9, there is a section under CALL SETTINGS that tells you how to Enable VoWi-Fi. They actually use this wording in the directions " Touch SETTINGS > Wi-Fi calling"
WiFi calling options are NOT present in the call settings menu for my Mate 9 (6GB/128 GB Model MHA-AL00 / Build Number: MHA-AL00 C00B137). I have the 2 SIM version sold by a HK seller on eBay.
My questions...
Is the manual is describing something different from the WiFi Calling from T Mobile that I'm very familiar with?
I use T Mobile as my USA carrier and have a T Mobile phone that does Wi Fi calling very nicely.
I put the same T Mobile SIM in my Mate 9...but the WiFi calling options STILL don't appear.
Is the Mate 9 really compatible with WiFi calling? What am I doing wrong?
Thank you.
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The phone supports wifi calling but it's not a universal standard so each carrier does it differently (as far as I know). So it's probably not supported with US carriers, especially when it's not even released there.
I believe the phone might need a software update specifically to support it for T-Mobile. I think most carriers don't support VoLTE/Wi-Fi calling, so that might be why it has no option out of the box but a regional firmware update should enable it.
Being compatible doesn't mean it will just work. It means it will work if the network supports it.
T-Mobile will make sure that the phones it sells for its network will have the right software. An imported phone won't have that software and if you are unlucky it might not be directly upgradeable.
This is one reason why it's always a bit of a risk to import phones from another region.
WiFi Calling ...a few potentially useful tid bits...
Thank you to all! I'm pretty sure each carrier will keep the process as "proprietary" as humanly possible for obviou$ reason$.
Here is a tid bit I learned from Apple support on the topic of WiFi calling. As you may know, Apple 6S onwards support WiFi Calling. I was curious about how carriers 'support' WiFi calling on an unbranded / unlocked WiFi capable iPhone.
Here's the punch line from Apples...
If you use WiFi Calling on say T Mo..and then you want to pop in an AT&T SIM card....get this....you MUST do a factory re-set to enable WiFi calling with the newly placed SIM... Can you believe that? I change SIMS like underwear! Doing a factory reset for WiFi calling is impractical for me...
Does anyone know of any further progress on wifi calling from T-Mobile for this phone? Please share.
Well I have been able to make calls through the Google Hangouts dialer on WiFi, but doesn't seem to work to receive calls. Not sure how well it would work if I tried to port my number over to Google Voice, looked this morning said it would cost me $20 to do it.
But I'm likely returning my phone, not being able to get calls at home because the service in my building is poor... Pretty depressing because the phone is badass.
Google voice is not wifi calling as a feature set from either the phone manufacturer nor T-Mobile.
Wifi calling is when your mobile provider can service a connection over wifi, regardless of there being a cell signal or not. It treats your number as PSTN over wifi. Over it's (provider) servers.
Google voice is not wifi calling.
But I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
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Google voice is not wifi calling as a feature set from either the phone manufacturer nor T-Mobile.
Wifi calling is when your mobile provider can service a connection over wifi, regardless of there being a cell signal or not. It treats your number as PSTN over wifi. Over it's (provider) servers.
Google voice is not wifi calling.
But I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
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Google voice is wifi calling if you have a gv number lol
"Wi-Fi Calling is the conventional name for a technology that allows cellular packets from your phone to be transferred to your carrier over the internet, and injected back into the cellular network as if they'd been beamed over the air.
Unlike services like Google Hangouts and Skype, which let you talk to other people using call forwarding or an internet-based interface, Wi-Fi Calling lets you use your actual carrier phone number over the internet. Wi-Fi Calling is also distinct from VoIP technology, which lets you use an internet-connected phone exactly as you would a landline. VoIP transfers your voice over the internet to the switched telephone network, whereas Wi-Fi Calling connects your voice to your mobile carrier's network using the internet instead of cell towers."
So, it's not wifi calling as highlighted as a feature by mobile manufacturers and thus offered/utilized by mobile providers as a result.
This thread is specifically for the above mentioned capability. It would be best to not dilute the discussion with alternate options via additional apps. It would be misleading and misdirecting fellow readers.
The USA version does.
We have to wait for a USA firmware upgrade becomes available and update to that. If you have no interest in using funkyhuawe8, then probably sol unless they include in international ROM at some point.
Which k doubt because it would be included already.
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The USA version does.
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The USA version does what? Are you saying it supports WiFi calling? I don't see the option on my USA version.
dscline said:
The USA version does what? Are you saying it supports WiFi calling? I don't see the option on my USA version.
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Ive seen wifi calling listed on usa version of the phone. Few other little things thats not available on my international l29
What firmware are you on?
intruda119 said:
What firmware are you on?
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b138 We have VoLTE in our firmware, but I've not seen any evidence of VoWiFi.
intruda119 said:
Ive seen wifi calling listed on usa version of the phone. Few other little things thats not available on my international l29
What firmware are you on?
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Where do you see wifi calling on the US version? I have one and can't find it.
It was around USA release. Not that important to me. Sure search will pull up something.
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It was volte I was thinking about. Until they release a update with wifi calling , Hangouts is the workaround
intruda119 said:
It was around USA release. Not that important to me. Sure search will pull up something.
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It was volte I was thinking about. Until they release a update with wifi calling , Hangouts is the workaround
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From everything I've seen the carriers have to approve devices for them to be able to utilize WiFi calling. It's one of the downfalls of having an unlocked device in the US as it's highly unlikely that a carrier will approve it.
That's correct, the while the firmware from Mate 9 supports it, there would likely be carrier/provider specifications that requires to be enabled. Huawei clearly does not have the green light from TMO for this else it would have been available.
This is the same reason, a TMO specific phone will have wifi calling, where as its international counterpart wound have it...
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So using funkyhuawe8 will enable carrier (TMO) wifi calling?
Is this working for anyone on a L29 international version?
Thank you intruda119.
Any way you could shed some light on what exactly needs to be done using FunkyHuawe8 to enable wifi-calling please.
ravennyc said:
Thank you intruda119.
Any way you could shed some light on what exactly needs to be done using FunkyHuawe8 to enable wifi-calling please.
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So does this have wifi calling on T-Mobile or not ?
No.
Hi All
I flashed the Canada multi-csc on my G955FD hoping to get LTE while on the phone (VoLTE)
However when I make a call with Sim #1 (TELUS) I have no LTE.
When making a call with Sim #2 (Bell), I do have LTE.
I have my Calls set to SIM 1, i have Texts set to SIM 1, and Mobile Data to SIM 2
When i reboot the phone a popup appears that asks which number i want to use as my primary for apps, and i always choose my TELUS number. I assume this is asking for things such as Whatsapp and how it maps to your cell number?
Anyone know what's wrong?
Is it possible that the Multi CSC is not adding TELUS's details properly?
Or can i simply only have VoLTE with one SIM and not both?
EDIT: Through testing i confirmed that whichever SIM is set to Data will be the only SIM that you can make VoLTE calls on.
Here is a thread in the S9 forums discussing the same limitation
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/s9-duos-exynos-dual-sim-dual-volte-t3756817
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You are correct; only the SIM set as Data will be able to operate in VoLTE mode.
Samsung has added Dual LTE to S9/S9+ variants with recent update though, so both SIM can operate in VoLTE mode simultaneously (irrespective of Data SIM selection). You can only hope that Samsung brings the same feature to S8/S8+ too; it depends upon hw support.
S8/S8+ hardware is not capable of Dual VoLTE. So it will never arrive.
The note 5 pro from Xiaomi supports dhak volte after a software update a d I know that because I did it on a 6gb 64 gb model a few hours ago. I think the s8,s8+ and note 8 surely have better hardware than Xiaomi note 5 pro right?
I have the european variant LM-V500EM of LG V50 which I was under the impression had a wifi calling / vowifi option. I've used the quickshortcut maker app and can see the option is there in the backend of the settings com.android.settings.Settings$Wifi CallingSettingsActivity. I can even open it and toggle it to on but it doesn't appear to do anything and still won't show in the regular call settings.
I've spoken to a number of UK networks who say it should work and spoken to LG directly who say wifi calling is unavailable for this variant/model and only the EE variant has WIFI calling. It's pretty frustrating that a function which the phone clearly is capable of is unusable.
Has anyone got any workarounds for this as I'm tearing my hair out here and don't want to have to sell the phone as apart from this it's great.
Thanks
I've been in engineering mode *#546368#*500# and SVC Menu / VoWIFI / W-Fi Toggle to ON but wifi calling still doesn't appear in the main settings.
Can this be enabled OTA by the right network carrier eg. EE , 3 etc ?
I've got the same phone, same problem.
Running Android 11, Smarty network
timosui said:
I have the european variant LM-V500EM of LG V50 which I was under the impression had a wifi calling / vowifi option. I've used the quickshortcut maker app and can see the option is there in the backend of the settings com.android.settings.Settings$Wifi CallingSettingsActivity. I can even open it and toggle it to on but it doesn't appear to do anything and still won't show in the regular call settings.
I've spoken to a number of UK networks who say it should work and spoken to LG directly who say wifi calling is unavailable for this variant/model and only the EE variant has WIFI calling. It's pretty frustrating that a function which the phone clearly is capable of is unusable.
Has anyone got any workarounds for this as I'm tearing my hair out here and don't want to have to sell the phone as apart from this it's great.
Thanks
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Hi,
What is EE variant? I never seen it before and I can't find it in net.
I know only those variants:
V450PM
V450VM
V500EM
V500N
Setup: I have a technical question I am hoping y'all can help with. I am located in Canada and have the S23+ model SM-S916W. The ESIM is with Rogers for calls, texts, but no data, and the physical SIM is with FIDO for data. The software is updated, nothing else I can think of in that regards that needs updating, and I have Android 13 build TP1A.220624.014S916WVLU1AWBE.
Problem: On my SIM manager, it shows the physical SIM and the eSIM. I have the primary SIM set to Rogers. However, it does not give me the option of selecting which SIM is for what (e.g. which SIM receives calls, which receives texts, and which uses data) due to it being the crappy-nadian variant of the software (see photo 1 versus phot 2). I want to flash to firmware that allows me to select these settings so I can make proper use of dual SIMs.
Questions: I haven't flashed firmware since the Note 5 so it has been a while, but:
(1) Which US firmware is the most compatible with the Rogers network?
(2) Will I still get firmware/security updates?
(3) What are the other pros and cons asides from potentially bricking the phone?
Thanks!