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Help loading Mvelopes APK

Hey guys,
I am trying to load mvelopes.apk and keep getting "Application not installed".
I have tried it from my "download" folder as well as "system/app" with no luck.
I took the apk from my phone, it was in a Titanium backup file (xxx.apk.gz) Could that be part of the problem?
Permissions are set to RW R R and root is the owner.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Without knowing what that app does, a possible reason for it not installing is that it has some dependency on other tools that either aren't enabled or are not available on the KF.
As an example, apps that use GeoLocation or the camera won't install because they are looking for hooks that just aren't there.

mvelopes is an app to manage personal budgets and money. It is associated with mvelopes.com and is a lot like mint.com.
Here is the Android Market Link
I would love it if somebody could see if they can load it on their device. Especially one that has market installed.

If you look at the Permissions tab it say's:
"FINE (GPS) LOCATION
Access fine location sources such as the Global Positioning System on the device, where available. Malicious applications can use this to determine where you are, and may consume additional battery power."
I think this is what is making it impossible to install right now, because it's looking for location services which aren't enabled on the KF. Perhaps with a custom ROM this might be possible in the future, but nobody knows for sure right now. Not all is lost, you just might have to wait a month or so to find out.

Thank you!
Thanks for looking into this and that would explain it.
I have also opened a ticket with Mvelopes requesting that they make it officially supported in the Amazon market.
I won't hold my breath as the ROM approach might be better once they get fully refined.
Thanks again!

bneilson said:
Thanks for looking into this and that would explain it.
I have also opened a ticket with Mvelopes requesting that they make it officially supported in the Amazon market.
I won't hold my breath as the ROM approach might be better once they get fully refined.
Thanks again!
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I don't hold out hope that CM7 or any other ROM will help us here - Maybe they can spoof the location somehow to fool the app but it seems like your first instinct might have been right -- the onus is on the companies who build the apps to get with it and embrace the "tablet revolution". Basically apps designed for phone screens look silly on tablets; the wide bits of useless screen real estate are dreadful. Case in point - the Gmail app on the KF.
Light at the end of the tunnel tho - it seems that companies are suddenly realizing that "Tablet App" doesn't necessarily mean "iPad App".
Banking from my KF would be pretty awesome.

hoss12300 said:
I don't hold out hope that CM7 or any other ROM will help us here - Maybe they can spoof the location somehow to fool the app but it seems like your first instinct might have been right -- the onus is on the companies who build the apps to get with it and embrace the "tablet revolution". Basically apps designed for phone screens look silly on tablets; the wide bits of useless screen real estate are dreadful. Case in point - the Gmail app on the KF.
Light at the end of the tunnel tho - it seems that companies are suddenly realizing that "Tablet App" doesn't necessarily mean "iPad App".
Banking from my KF would be pretty awesome.
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You may be right there, but I think Location Settings also include WiFi based geolocation as well as far as I'm aware? I'm not sure why such an app would require location settings anyway, it's a bloody budgeting app! Maybe the OP should approach the developer, and tell them they are missing out on the KF market here!
Someone should make a T-Shirt - Tablet App != iPad App

sl0ttedpig said:
You may be right there, but I think Location Settings also include WiFi based geolocation as well as far as I'm aware? I'm not sure why such an app would require location settings anyway, it's a bloody budgeting app! Maybe the OP should approach the developer, and tell them they are missing out on the KF market here!
Someone should make a T-Shirt - Tablet App != iPad App
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Yep, in this context (the Mvelopes requirements) Wifi geolocation can only provide you with the coarse location, not fine. As you point out tho, its a banking app - why on earth does it need to know where you are within 50m (I'm pretty sure that's the radius)? Quizzical indeed. Perhaps if a Dev sees this thread some light can be shed on why this is 'necessary'.
Some nerdy stuff on the subject from the Android Dev Guide: Location and Maps > Obtaining User Location

App Permissions - Need a little help

I'm still newer to Android and today realized the permissions that apps request. Before I was quick to just accept & go. I was about to install an app that is requesting a LOT of permissions. Phone calls, hardware controls (pics/vids at any time), and network communication (SMS I believe). My questions are simple.
1. Do some mods already implement certain things into itself to disable some of these features? I understand this is a mod-by-mod basis if so. Does Synergy do anything to disable this crap, anybody know?
2. How worried do I have to be about this? Will the app literally take pics and send them out without my knowledge? Or is it only the pics I take it can send out? How does this work?
3. Which of the permissions that apps request do I really need to keep an eye on and watch out for? AKA, what could take info/pics that I dont want it to?
4. Is Anti-Virus software REALLY necessary since I'm all rooted and such? I read articles saying it's useful and others saying it doesn't even provide much protection, and the chance to get something is quite rare if you only use google play/android market?
Thanks in advance for any and all help. I ditched Apple and AT&T for this thing, and with it being rooted, I am unbelievably happy I made the switch to both VZW and the S3! AWESOME phone, screen size, and customization!

Bump...

Ok, so maybe this is getting ignored because it's too much of a noob question, or self explanatory? Not sure, but I want to know how far this crap goes...To my worst fears, like hardware control can take pics any time they want and I never know about it, or is it not that bad?
Thanks in advance for any help!

It is somewhat self explanatory... just use common sense when downloading an app... If you don't think it really needs the permission that it's asking for then don't download it. For example, there's no reason a music app that plays your sdcard contents needs your GPS location, etc... Look at the reviews of apps in question also... that's your best indicator right there if the app is trustworthy or not... If it's a bad app then its going to have bad reviews.

See your other thread on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1860600
I tried to explain as best I can
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[Q] Why aren't there more floating apps?

So, there have always been a couple of "floating" apps in the market. For example,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gpc.myweb.hinet.net.PopupVideo&hl=en
Anyway, my question is why don't other apps use the same framework code that these floating apps use? Or is it just completely different than what I think it is. I've tried asking this on Reddit before but people didn't understand what I was asking and just kept downvoting/ignoring the posts.. Aren't floating apps just basically the Samsung floating ones without having to launch them via the multiwindow launcher?
EDIT:
What I was asking about are floating apps, not associated with touchwiz. Please stop referring to the ones associated with JB.. I have seen the threads that concern customizing your apps such that they can be launched with the multiwindow launcher, but that is not what I am asking about. Again, look at the playstore link, it works with non-touchwiz android strains, right? That's what I am talking about. Please READ this before posting a comment about touchwiz AGAIN.
I think this is resolved in that we've decided that it is because developers think that people don't care about multitasking for tablets, not necessarily because it is hard to implement.

check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33965979
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Right, so you've misunderstood my question..
I mean, the floating calculator apps and whatever from before the Galaxy Note Line came out, these all work on other devices. Why is it that apps can't incorporate the framework within them to be used whenever, without using the multiwindow launcher?

Let me tell you why your posts were ignored.
It seems you're not so much asking a question as pushing an agenda.
You seem to want someone to say "wow that's a great idea let's do that!"
In which case your question is moot.
Either that or you're just assuming for some reason that app developers aren't
making everything multiwindow because it's difficult to implement. More likely
devs could give a *%#$ about multiwindow when coding an app i.e. it's not a
priority.

blud7 said:
Let me tell you why your posts were ignored.
It seems you're not so much asking a question as pushing an agenda.
You seem to want someone to say "wow that's a great idea let's do that!"
In which case your question is moot.
Either that or you're just assuming for some reason that app developers aren't
making everything multiwindow because it's difficult to implement. More likely
devs could give a *%#$ about multiwindow when coding an app i.e. it's not a
priority.
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Yes.. basically. I don't know how to code Android apps (my experience with programming is in analytical things) so I don't exactly know how much work is involved in getting that framework into an existing code. I assumed that multiwindow is an attractive option because of the hype regarding Cornerstone and now Samsung's multitasking abilities, but I guess that isn't really the case. Is it actually hard? I'm still not sure I have an answer for that because it just sounds like you're telling me no one gives a ****, which is an answer to one of my questions, but not all of them..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998133
Here ya go, make ANY app multi screen. Enjoy.

This option still requires the Multiwindow launcher, correct?
Or does it not actually require the multiwindow launcher, but there's no way to distinguish between wanting to launch it as a window and launch as a whole screen except through the multiwindow launcher?
Otherwise.. you just didn't read the rest of the thread or my posts.

No, it seems he didn't read any of the posts above.
And again yeah, I think multiwindow is not a priority for most app devs.
With enough people clamouring for it, well who knows?
The truth is, every addition requires more effort as well as implementing features
that the dev may not have thought of. What if the target audience is phones only?
What if the target is multiple devices? I myself have no experience coding for android,
but an educated guess would tell me that's where the problem lies. I'm sure you've
read that one problem with android is the multiple devices it runs on...

Ah.. You're probably right. I was just thinking that it'd be the most excellent way to differentiate Android tablet apps (because all the review articles love to say that iPads have tablet optimized apps but Android tablets don't). I guess I'll look into it as a side project after qual's...

Aren't floating apps integrated to touchwiz?

Not what I was asking.. but yes.

There are apps that "float" without using touchwiz, such as a browser and a video player, but nothing to organize them the way samsung did. That said, multiwindow is coded into the OS rather than apps running workarounds to make it float. I can't say all apps should be floating, like games or whatnot, but the ones that you use on a daily basis would be more worth floating. There could be 1, 000 reasons why devs don't float all their apps, but if they don't then they don't. But if they do, it wouldn't be a bad idea to make an app that organizes floating windows into a multiwindow setting. The only problem is making the app. It might be worth looking into samsung's source code to see what they do to make it work.
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Music downloaders

I know that this post is a pretty common one but in certain way it is and in certain way it's NOT , why? Well, I've been searching and searching for a complete application and almost all have what is needed in order to satisfy you but for me, it doesn't, because most of this apps have a pretty old school UI, no material, no nothing, it's ugly to see them. So I'm asking for a complete app and if someone knows about one please tell me. Thanks

Deezer Music looks great, but I think this app is not free

Looking for an app and/or bluetooth expert. To modify an app.

Full disclosure: I dont normally do forums so sorry if I do this wrong.
I purchased a Bluetooth Purification Mask named Atmoblue.
It originated in China. Ive had it for a few months now and it has bluetooth and there is an app for it but it looks like its taking forever for it to be moved over to English.
My question is how hard would it be for a person (or me, with no experience at all) to pull the basic functions out of the app?
For example I want to bypass the wechat login (cause, no) and basically get the pairing function up and running along with the fan speed and some of the auto features in the app and create a basic app til they release the full thing.
If any of you also want to try I can send you the link to the apk. Or if you would do it and require payment at completion how much would that cost?
In case you need to see the device just google Atmoblue.
Thanks again everyone.

mastershino said:
Full disclosure: I dont normally do forums so sorry if I do this wrong.
I purchased a Bluetooth Purification Mask named Atmoblue.
It originated in China. Ive had it for a few months now and it has bluetooth and there is an app for it but it looks like its taking forever for it to be moved over to English.
My question is how hard would it be for a person (or me, with no experience at all) to pull the basic functions out of the app?
For example I want to bypass the wechat login (cause, no) and basically get the pairing function up and running along with the fan speed and some of the auto features in the app and create a basic app til they release the full thing.
If any of you also want to try I can send you the link to the apk. Or if you would do it and require payment at completion how much would that cost?
In case you need to see the device just google Atmoblue.
Thanks again everyone.
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There is pretty much a 99.9% chance that you won't find anyone to do this for you. The best you can hope for is someone might give you some links to guides showing how to decompile and edit apk files. What you would modify in the apk file to achieve your purposes would require you doing your own research to figure it out. You can ask further questions along the way about the things that you don't understand, but there are no guarantees that you will get any useful answers.
In other words, be prepared to dig in and do the work yourself, if you really want to accomplish this feat. If not, get used to dealing with the app the way it is.
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Yea, i started researching the day I posted this. I've been reading and reading and reading. Ive gotten to the point where I now have access to the battery percentage. Currently, trying to figure out the characteristics in the device itself and the values needed to change each of the modes. Also, it looks like the app from the company is pretty much useless to try to use. Based on the code (from what I can understand after 2 days of research and starting off with 0 coding knowledge) the app has to use wechat to basically be able to access a server and then the server sends it back to the phone then the device. Meaning I can't just look in the code for what values I need, unless I was able to actually sign into wechat and record the log. Which I can't do since I don't have access to wechat.
So now I'm currently looking up how to write code in the programs I've found to write it and create a ui. Ive at least figured out uuids and figured out how to call up the battery percentage now. Only like 3 more settings to go! Wish me luck lol