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Root new OTA updates [September Update]

Hello guys,
I have successfully rooted September update with the help of Flashfire. As there is no fastboot images released at the a time of writing this so I have to make use of dual slots of system. This can be adopted for future OTA's as well:
The process requires you to boot into ur previous slot. It mean that after you have updated you phone boots from updated slot but old slot is still there which can be rooted easily.
Now you have boot from old slot
Code:
fastboot set_active x
x means your old slot before update
Now u have to root this slot by flashing patched boot image.
After successful root use flashfire to backup your updated slot's boot and system , u can use any format I recommend use fastboot flashable.
Now you can use backed up boot to flash on updated slot and enable ever root while flashing.
Now you have rooted your updated slot .
Now you can boot into updated slot by using above code with 'x' being your updated slot identifire.
PS.
Stock September Boot
First boot might take long similar to flashing SuperSU via twrp ( it reboots after boot logo appears)
I used this https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5x/how-to/root-mia1-twrp-t3678453 to root my August build.

Google Inc said:
Hi how do i confirm whether a or b slot are previous update?
I need to reboot for further checking?
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U can guess without rebooting in magisk manager, by boot image location
/dev/block/mmcblk0p22 --> means slot A
/dev/block/mmcblk0p23 --> means slot B
Also fast boot commands can be used for that
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk

m.atif said:
U can guess without rebooting in magisk manager, by boot image location
/dev/block/mmcblk0p22 --> means slot A
/dev/block/mmcblk0p23 --> means slot B
Also fast boot commands can be used for that
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
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I guess slot A is August update and slot B is September update...
Reason: We had slot A activated by default so any new update (say September) will be installed in another slot (say B)...
I rebooted to slot A... opened Settings app -- About Phone -- It says August security patch...
Trying your method to root... Will reply back with the results...
thanks a lot bro

I said that bcz if someone flashes fastboot images , slot a is used for flashing by the provided falsh_all.bat file in stock image file.

Fastboot set _active a or b is not working.

Mr.Crucial said:
Fastboot set _active a or b is not working.
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Use adb tools from chainfire's autoroot zip
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk

Google Inc said:
Hi how do i confirm whether a or b slot are previous update?
I need to reboot for further checking?
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Execute this command in fastboot - fastboot getvar all

m.atif said:
Use adb tools from chainfire's autoroot zip
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
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Thanks I have rooted my device with september security patch by using different way but got help from your guide

Greetings good friend! Can someone translate this to lay-man-terms coz it's too technical and although I am trying, it's really hard to understand. ???
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Desire 1007 said:
Thanks I have rooted my device with september security patch by using different way but got help from your guide
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Mate can you elaborate?? Thank you..

melmarPH said:
Greetings good friend! Can someone translate this to lay-man-terms coz it's too technical and although I am trying, it's really hard to understand.
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Mate can you elaborate?? Thank you..
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Go to fastboot mode.Enter command in ur pc fastboot set active b or a (which will have old firmware)and boot it.Root your old slot containing august security patch using old cf root and install flashfire
in flashfire load the latest magusk or supersu (which you can download from google)(recovery flashable),select new slot and click flash.
Thats all you get your phone rooted with september security patch.

Desire 1007 said:
Go to fastboot mode.Enter command in ur pc fastboot set active b or a (which will have old firmware)and boot it.Root your old slot containing august security patch using old cf root and install flashfire
in flashfire load the latest magusk or supersu (which you can download from google)(recovery flashable),select new slot and click flash.
Thats all you get your phone rooted with september security patch.
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This doesn't work with Magisk, you get boot loops.
Incidentally, it looks like the developer of Magisk is looking for bootloop logs at https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/beta-magisk-v13-0-0980cb6-t3618589/page372
I bet if someone could get some Magisk bootloop logs he could get Magisk working on the A1.

mobadass said:
This doesn't work with Magisk, you get boot loops.
Incidentally, it looks like the developer of Magisk is looking for bootloop logs at https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/beta-magisk-v13-0-0980cb6-t3618589/page372
I bet if someone could get some Magisk bootloop logs he could get Magisk working on the A1.
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Yeah! I wish I saw your post sooner. Anyway I flashed the stock boot.img of september and the bootloops ceased albeit with no root

mobadass said:
This doesn't work with Magisk, you get boot loops.
Incidentally, it looks like the developer of Magisk is looking for bootloop logs at https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/beta-magisk-v13-0-0980cb6-t3618589/page372
I bet if someone could get some Magisk bootloop logs he could get Magisk working on the A1.
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I didn't state a word about magisk, bcz I tried that in August build itself when magisk 14.1 beta was released , it didn't boot so posted about that in magisk thread too, u can't get any logs if the phone restart from splash screen again and again that's bootloop, some kernels have ADB enabled by default in kernel that way we can have logs but it's not possible in stock boot patched by magisk.
Even flashing magisk from flashfire gives same result.

Help!!! Unable to update to September
Hi,
I'm on the August update and I have successfully rooted. But I am unable to install September OTA to update. Can you please advise?

ForTheOne said:
Hi,
I'm on the August update and I have successfully rooted. But I am unable to install September OTA to update. Can you please advise?
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If u happen to have a unmodified system partion , only flash stock boot.img through fastboot or flashfire (note to disable ever root)
If u have a modified system , them flash system.img from August update fastboot files with boot.img , I will suggest you to do this as you don't know if have modified the system or not (even remounting system bricks OTA). To do so
Code:
fastboot flash system_x system/image/location.img
fastboot flash boot_x boot/image/location.img
x means ur current active slot (a or b)
U can find stock files from miui.com downloads section

Anyine has normal boot.img for october update? or even modified?

any link to stock september boot image?

March OTA + TWRP + Magisk = Februrary. What damn I am doing wrong?

Situation:
Flashed fastboot of Febrarury [ http://bigota.d.miui.com/V9.5.4.0.O...0.ODHMIFA_20180226.0000.00_8.0_5773957dcd.tgz ]
Received ed installed OTA of March
Installed TWRP
Installed MAgisk
Strange point: I'm now again at Februrary security patch .... why ?
I really don not understand the meaning of what I am doing, so I caused this and I cannot understand WHY.
Please, be patient, I need to understand some basic concepts about our phone
1. After flashing the fastboot rom of february, what is the exact state of my phone?
I mean: No stock revovery + 2 identical bootable system partitions updated at february. Right?
2. What does the OTA do?
optiona a: leave untouched system a, update system b to march, set bootloader to boot using slot_b
option b: the opposite, updated system a to march, leaved the b at february, boot setup to use slot_a
optionc c: both the slot are updated to march ?
More question to go after I grab the basic
Thanks in advance to everyone will help me to understand

Change slot on twrp
It's not happening coz of OTA. It's happening after twrp install.

.:Addicted:. said:
Change slot on twrp
It's not happening coz of OTA. It's happening after twrp install.
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Can you please say in some detail as I am also facing the same issue

IT EZZ
u just change ur slot back to old one to back to march slot follow this:
1- reboot to twrp
2- go to reboot option
3- change ur current slot to the second one (if u on A change to B or if u on B change to A)
4- reboot done fixed.

[GUIDE] How to root your Nokia 8, and keep the ability to do official OTA updates

So as the official bootloader unlock broadened the audience of this from tinkerers/developers to basically everyone I thought this guide might me helpful for some...
PREREQUISITES:
- Unlocked bootloader (official or unofficial)
- latest magisk manager installed on phone (https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases)
- latest fastboot and adb binaries from google(https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools)
- latest twrp.img to boot (NOT FLASH), zip not needed (https://eu.dl.twrp.me/NB1/)
- Fully stock partitions (if you do not have this reflash latest stock via ostla), as OTA updates will do a integrity check.
- PC with WIN/OSX/LINUX with USB port^^ (on windows you might have to add .exe to the commands)
- disable automatic system updates in developer options, as you will still have to manually root the updated partition, so this makes sure you don't miss it. You still get notifications on available updates and can apply them easily(as you will see)
SETUP_STEPS:
1. Go into Magisk manager and "just download" the latest zip
2.1 Run
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
or reboot into download/fastboot mode via other means
2.2 Run
Code:
fastboot boot twrp-3.2.3-1-NB1.img
(change this when your version of twrp differs)
2.3 Flash the .zip magisk downloaded in 1.)
2.4 Reboot.
Congratulations you now have root!
STEPS_TO_UPDATE:
1. Go into Magisk Manager -> Uninstall -> Restore Images
2. Apply Update, DO NOT REBOOT YET
3. When step to finished and it promts you to reboot go into Magisk Manager -> Install -> Install to inactive Slot
Congratulations you can now reboot and will have an updated Android while keeping full root.

ALTERNATIVE GUIDE (without twrp, using prerooted boot.img)
(works for newest patch level, where twrp isn't working yet)
this guide works on newest patches as long as someone provides a prerooted boot.img.
So basically you either need a boot.img available or twrp...
Hopefully this helps until TWRP is compatible with September Security Patch
LINKS:
stock boot.img: (may to october patches)
https://cloud.vault81.de/s/fnoizKwi8kNF3Rg
prerooted boot.img: (may to october patches)
https://cloud.vault81.de/s/AeHiE5HR2qonb3N
PREREQUISITES:
- same as above minus twrp
- patched/prerooted boot image (either create it yourself or use link provided here)
STEPS_TO_ROOT:
0.
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
or get into download mode otherwise
1.
Code:
fastboot boot NB1_prerooted_boot.img
1.1. The phone will boot into an temporarily rooted state,
2. Use magisk manager-> Install -> "Direct Install" to persist the root.
3. Reboot
Congrats you now have root even on versions where twrp isn't working yet....
Edit1:
Added link to all stock boot images from may to october security
Edit2:
Did the same for magisk prerooted
Edit3:
Added November images thanks to @czupyt

TWRP isnt working right now so whoever updated to September patch cant do anything except unlock bootloader. Unless someone can pull a boot.img from the newest patch so we can all patch it through Magisk and get root.

ironman38102 said:
TWRP isnt working right now so whoever updated to September patch cant do anything except unlock bootloader. Unless someone can pull a boot.img from the newest patch so we can all patch it through Magisk and get root.
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I can try to do that once I get back home tomorrow...
I have working magisk on september patch so I should have both prerooted and Stock (cause Magisk backups those)

Trissi said:
I can try to do that once I get back home tomorrow...
I have working magisk on september patch so I should have both prerooted and Stock (cause Magisk backups those)
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That would be much appreciated. Alot of people who just unlocked bootloader cant root and the maintainer of our TWRP will take a couple of days

indeed

ironman38102 said:
TWRP isnt working right now so whoever updated to September patch cant do anything except unlock bootloader. Unless someone can pull a boot.img from the newest patch so we can all patch it through Magisk and get root.
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Simple Solution: A/B Partition System.
One Slot is the September Update, the other is August Update.
Update to September, Unlock, witch to other Slot with August Update, Boot Offical TWRP 3.2.3-0 (-1 not booting tho).
Now you can Install the Install Zip for the August BL and Magisk.
Bootup and use Magisk for Inactive Slot.
So did I, but I'm still on August Slot, I'll try to root the September Boot Partiton, and Install TWRP later when Fix arrived.
But rooted September doens't seem very... Stable

LoaderFabi said:
Simple Solution: A/B Partition System.
One Slot is the September Update, the other is August Update.
Update to September, Unlock, witch to other Slot with August Update, Boot Offical TWRP 3.2.3-0 (-1 not booting tho).
Now you can Install the Install Zip for the August BL and Magisk.
Bootup and use Magisk for Inactive Slot.
So did I, but I'm still on August Slot, I'll try to root the September Boot Partiton, and Install TWRP later when Fix arrived.
But rooted September doens't seem very... Stable
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I'm already about to install the September patch again. I downgraded to May so I could root my phone and provide the clean boot.img from the stock September so people can root without twrp. And honestly A/B partition is still new to me that I still don't understand it

ironman38102 said:
I'm already about to install the September patch again. I downgraded to May so I could root my phone and provide the clean boot.img from the stock September so people can root without twrp. And honestly A/B partition is still new to me that I still don't understand it
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A/B system is not Complex at all. It's just having 2x a Partiton Group (Boot, System, OEM and Recovery I think) and having the ability with Fatboot to simply switch between group A and group B.
You Inital Set up Partiton A (Nokia did for us with Nougat 7.1.1). If you Update, the Update will be extracted to Partition B, aftzer finishing you reboot to Partiton Group B, leaving group A untouched in Case of Error on Partition B.
That's it pretty much.

LoaderFabi said:
A/B system is not Complex at all. It's just having 2x a Partiton Group (Boot, System, OEM and Recovery I think) and having the ability with Fatboot to simply switch between group A and group B.
You Inital Set up Partiton A (Nokia did for us with Nougat 7.1.1). If you Update, the Update will be extracted to Partition B, aftzer finishing you reboot to Partiton Group B, leaving group A untouched in Case of Error on Partition B.
That's it pretty much.
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No I get that but its just that I forget cuz this is my first phone with a/b partition. Anyway I got the phone to latest patch rooted so I'll see if I can get the untouched img

i'm on september security update and followed the seconde guide, but still show the android logo not booting the phone

eric194 said:
i'm on september security update and followed the seconde guide, but still show the android logo not booting the phone
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On what step? Was it after you completed the guide? Or did the patched image not boot already?
If the patched image worked but it din't afterwards, you should reflash the stock_boot.img and redo the guide again because you probably flashed twrp and broke your bootloader...
As you can see in the prerequisites this guide requires a stock bootloader to start.

Trissi said:
On what step? Was it after you completed the guide? Or did the patched image not boot already?
If the patched image worked but it din't afterwards, you should reflash the stock_boot.img and redo the guide again because you probably flashed twrp and broke your bootloader...
As you can see in the prerequisites this guide requires a stock bootloader to start.
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Nop I didn't flash twrp & Im on stock bootloader fresh september no modifications

eric194 said:
Nop I didn't flash twrp & Im on stock bootloader fresh september no modifications
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So did the prerooted Image Boot?
If so it basically has to be your boot/system partition(I had mine compromised too and couldn't fix it with just flashing boot.img had to reflash everything via ostla)
If even the prerooted Image didnt boot im sorry i don't really know how to help, as I have working root with Magisk on September patch and the Image boots just fine for me....

eric194 said:
Nop I didn't flash twrp & Im on stock bootloader fresh september no modifications
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Also you could Switch slots to revert back to august Patch and use the normal twrp guide then... And run the September Update via the magisk method

Trissi said:
Also you could Switch slots to revert back to august Patch and use the normal twrp guide then... And run the September Update via the magisk method
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Ok I will try that hope it'll work
Edit : thanks dude it worked

Hey everyone;
My Nokia TA-1004 is on the July SP (4.88B_SP02) with unlocked bootloader (unofficial method), TWRP and Magisk installed.
Where can I find a stock boot.img to flash? I tried flashing the boot.img on this thread and although I can boot fine my wifi will be broken (I tried and had to restore nandroid backup). I also tried following the guide here but my OSTLA won't get past "Flashing Service Bootloader".
Any help?

Xayar said:
Hey everyone;
My Nokia TA-1004 is on the July SP (4.88B_SP02) with unlocked bootloader (unofficial method), TWRP and Magisk installed.
Where can I find a stock boot.img to flash? I tried flashing the boot.img on this thread and although I can boot fine my wifi will be broken (I tried and had to restore nandroid backup). I also tried following the guide here but my OSTLA won't get past "Flashing Service Bootloader".
Any help?
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Flash the full Stock build (i think its even may patch), via ostla (https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ia-8-official-firmware-links-updated-t3678487), then follow this guide then reapply all updates by following the update steps...

So which file do I have to download from https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1t64iHuQQjmMnzcujZtjYplh6ipbiF6Cw ? I tried with the 488B one and got stuck on "flashing service bootloader"...

Xayar said:
So which file do I have to download from https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1t64iHuQQjmMnzcujZtjYplh6ipbiF6Cw ? I tried with the 488B one and got stuck on "flashing service bootloader"...
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Are you trying to use OST LA 6.1.2? Cuz that doesnt work

October 2018 Security Patch

Just checked updates and new October security patch was found.
Captured OTA file:
https://workupload.com/file/jQDkURkS
MD5: 69a58a09918a4735f47de53e478854aa
SHA1: d8a6e5d87a4bb2f5d26bd1b28be829d6b2f3be37
Edit: Couldn't extract the payload.bin inside the archive. :-/

thanks for the info. do you know where i can see the changelogs?

Changelogs are usually never published. This patch looks like a plain security update due to its size of only 82mb.

Doublepost, sorry!

Version: V9.6.14.0.ODIMIFE
Size: 105.8 MB

Txatxiquesi said:
Version: V9.6.14.0.ODIMIFE
Size: 105.8 MB
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Are you sure this is for the A2 LITE? My version says V9.6.9.0.ODLMIFF.

thorin0815 said:
Are you sure this is for the A2 LITE? My version says V9.6.9.0.ODLMIFF.
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Ok, i think maybe is the version of the standard A2 (no lite).

There is indeed a security patch for the month of October. Havent updated yet. Its size is 82MB.

Yes just got updated. Magisk and xposed still intact and working perfectly.

Maximuous said:
Yes just got updated. Magisk and xposed still intact and working perfectly.
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did you just update without flashing the original boot.img from magisk?

Jordan~Kurniawan said:
did you just update without flashing the original boot.img from magisk?
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Nope. I followed the steps on this guide [GUIDE] Install Magisk with proper support for OTA updates.

Is there chance to install it from adb?

It's just a security patch, yes. No bugfixes. Some bugs including the shutter lag is still there.

Maximuous said:
Nope. I followed the steps on this guide [GUIDE] Install Magisk with proper support for OTA updates.
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i thought when you say intact you updated without first flashing the stock boot.img

Maximuous said:
Nope. I followed the steps on this guide [GUIDE] Install Magisk with proper support for OTA updates.
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How could you follow the guide? For me it doesn't work. Magisk says "Stock backup does not exist"
Did you place a file manuelly? If yes where exactly?
The only way let magisk creating is a backup by flashing it with twrp, but i want to wait for official twrp first
update - i resolved my problem:
1. i flashed with fastboot the stock boot image of current running version 9.6.6 to the inactive slot, in my case "slot b" by cmd line:
fastboot flash boot_b boot.img
2. i did run magisk - install to inactive slot -> magisk did backup stock image of inactive slot
3. after reboot i was able to use "uninstall - restore stock image" to do the ota update (like described in the guide)

Is it possible to do so?
I have magisk in the Oreo version of September. And I want to upgrade to October. And I thought about doing this:
Install official twrp.
Install original boot img. Current
Install OTA via Twrp.
Install boot patched img. Current
Install magisk via twrp.
And then reboot the phone.
Is it right?
Sent from my Mi A2 Lite using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Ithao said:
Is it possible to do so?
I have magisk in the Oreo version of September. And I want to upgrade to October. And I thought about doing this:
Install official twrp.
Install original boot img. Current
Install OTA via Twrp.
Install boot patched img. Current
Install magisk via twrp.
And then reboot the phone.
Is it right?
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No, because TWRP in A/B devices (like A2 Lite) is located in the boot image too. So doing the second step of your procedure will cancel the TWRP installed in the first step.

BubuXP said:
No, because TWRP in A/B devices (like A2 Lite) is located in the boot image too. So doing the second step of your procedure will cancel the TWRP installed in the first step.
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Ok. Thank you. I understood now how it works.
I did it that way. I had no problems.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=77931735
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Txatxiquesi said:
Version: V9.6.14.0.ODIMIFE
Size: 105.8 MB
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Does second sim slot work?

HTCDevil said:
Does second sim slot work?
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I personally only use first slot.

[SOLVED] OTA with ROOT...

I ask before in "guide to root motorla g stylus":
really is no way to work OTA while Magisk installed? i mean some Magisk Hide Props Config, or not install TWRP or anything? i actualy have Nokia 7 Plus (unlocked via unoficial method) and last year while not installed TWRP is possible check system update, install over air (while Magisk is installed), before reboot run MagiskManager, install Magisk to other slot, reboot, started from updated slot with Magisk installed, without need flash stock boot img before ota and flash manualy patched boot img after OTA... sure have Moto G Pro additional check or limitation and this not work? thanks...
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without reaction, then try make separated thread, i actualy have one week "Motorola Moto G Pro" (XT2043-7), rooted, and wait for OTA, UpdateCheck in Settings not show me, try LMSA Rescue/Download and show me same version as have installed QPRS30.80-109-2-7...
Questions:
- Have any user of same phone, without root, already showed Octorber OTA?
- Is on rooted posible UpdateCheck with show if OTA avaiable?
- Have any working solution for OTA update on rooted phone without need connected with PC? Similar or same as i write about Nokia7Plus?
(i mean without flash back stock img, make ota, patch new boot.img file in MagiskManager, flash it via TWRP booted...
i think without PC be sure posible flash back stock boot.img to boot partition, before OTA, maybe download zip of full "rom" and extract boot.img, patch via MagiskManager, but not flash patched
EDIT: Sollution here

The answers to your first two questions are yes. When on stock I successfully updated. And while rooted there was a notification for ota update, it would download, but fall to install. I came across a way to do it without having to connect to pc. Some said it was successful but I was not able to try. It has something to do with placing your original boot.img into a a folder on one of the root directories but I had no idea how in the hell they came up with the system path to the file (encrypted??) Because I didn't have any of the folders on my phone and was to lazy at the time to ask for help. It was also an older thread so I didn't feel like bringing up a thread that old.

without root you updated system to higher (with Ocrober security patches) version than QPRS30.80-109-2-7 (this version have September security patches) ?
second part of you answer i think not understand, with rooted phone, put boot.img in "a" directory in one (which?where?) root folder and OTA services flash it before upgrade/reboot???

please, anyone with "Motorola Moto G Pro" (XT2043-7), channel "reteu", have already displayed update notification for "QPRS30.80-109-2-8" ?

Yesterday i finally get OTA notify with QPRS30.80-109-2-8, with Magisk installed, ofcourse failed install, then i find this solution, to update OTA over Air with Magisk installed without need any steps with PC
Code:
1. Settings System/DeveloperOptions/AutomaticSystemUpdate=Disable
2. Settings System/SystemUpdate/.../SmartUpdate=Disable
3. MagiskManager UninstallMagisk/RestoreImages
4. Settings System/SystemUpdate "doing normal update and wait for finish"
5. After OTA Instralled [B]NOT[/B] Restart
6. MagiskManager MagiskInstall/InstallToInactiveSlotAfterOTA/LetsGo "wait for finish"
7. After Magisk installed tap to Reboot button in Magisk Instalation wIndow...

Very nice writeup. With respect to step 3, I never installed Magisk Manager (I simply did the patch of boot.img) so what should I do to restore image? With respect to step 5, how do I get to that point? Is it a prompt after rebooting?

flroots said:
[...] step 3, I never installed Magisk Manager (I simply did the patch of boot.img) so what should I do to restore image?
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you must have installed Magisk via TWRP (only temporary booted is enough), this make backup image which is latter in MagiskManager used for restore
flroots said:
[...] step 5, how do I get to that point? Is it a prompt after rebooting?
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this is normal OTA screen, is show if you check update and if available, then show progress about installing, only is need after ota finished, not using reboot button in this OTA screen, but make steps 6 and 7

k3dar7 said:
you must have installed Magisk via TWRP (only temporary booted is enough), this make backup image which is latter in MagiskManager used for restore
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I installed Magisk Manager via download of apk file (not TWRP). I then clicked on Magisk and chose "Select and patch a file". The end result was getting root. I never actually did a separate install of Magisk or Magisk Manager. I wonder if your step 3 will work in this case.
k3dar7 said:
this is normal OTA screen, is show if you check update and if available, then show progress about installing, only is need after ota finished, not using reboot button in this OTA screen, but make steps 6 and 7
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Thanks

flroots said:
I installed Magisk Manager via download of apk file (not TWRP). I then clicked on Magisk and chose "Select and patch a file". The end result was getting root. I never actually did a separate install of Magisk or Magisk Manager. I wonder if your step 3 will work in this case.
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Understand, but as i write, you must have installed Magisk via TWRP, with this method, Magisk make backup of boot image to "/data/magisk_backup_SomeRandomStrings/boot.img.gz", this file is used when you doing step 3, but if you only patch stock boot file, then ofcourse this backup is not created... i sugest you:
- revert boot to stock via same way as you flash patched before, but using stock boot.img
- boot TWRP (NOT flash, use command is section "Boot") and install Magisk.zip oficial release
- if on your phone/touchscreen variant not work touchscreen in TWRP, then (while still is booted TWRP) install it using adb

Thanks.

I have a couple questions:
1. Is it true that one shouldn't do an OTA unless the corresponding firmware can be downloaded due to the fact that you will lose root and not be able replace it until the corresponding boot.img can be obtained?
2. When downloading firmware from LMSA, does it download the latest or does it download your current version?

flroots said:
I have a couple questions:
1. Is it true that one shouldn't do an OTA unless the corresponding firmware can be downloaded due to the fact that you will lose root and not be able replace it until the corresponding boot.img can be obtained?
2. When downloading firmware from LMSA, does it download the latest or does it download your current version?
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1. NO - i with Magisk installed, receive OTA October (delayed) and November, and hope with december be same
not need wait for avaiable boot.img, because with "Boot TWRP & Flash MagiskZip" is patched onthefly "any" version of boot partition on device.
2. not sure, i not use LMSA

k3dar7 said:
1. NO - i with Magisk installed, receive OTA October (delayed) and November, and hope with december be same
not need wait for avaiable boot.img, because with "Boot TWRP & Flash MagiskZip" is patched onthefly "any" version of boot partition on device.
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Thanks, that sounds great. Would you mind elaborating the steps involved? I have TWRP and Magisk installed now.

k3dar7 said:
Yesterday i finally get OTA notify with QPRS30.80-109-2-8, with Magisk installed, ofcourse failed install, then i find this solution, to update OTA over Air with Magisk installed without need any steps with PC
Code:
1. Settings System/DeveloperOptions/AutomaticSystemUpdate=Disable
2. Settings System/SystemUpdate/.../SmartUpdate=Disable
3. MagiskManager UninstallMagisk/RestoreImages
4. Settings System/SystemUpdate "doing normal update and wait for finish"
5. After OTA Instralled [B]NOT[/B] Restart
6. MagiskManager MagiskInstall/InstallToInactiveSlotAfterOTA/LetsGo "wait for finish"
7. After Magisk installed tap to Reboot button in Magisk Instalation wIndow...
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Do these steps cause loss of data? Thanks

flroots said:
Do these steps cause loss of data? Thanks
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i ofcourse not garant ;-) but for me nothing lost, also installed magisk modules is preserved...

k3dar7 said:
Yesterday i finally get OTA notify with QPRS30.80-109-2-8, with Magisk installed, ofcourse failed install, then i find this solution, to update OTA over Air with Magisk installed without need any steps with PC
Code:
1. Settings System/DeveloperOptions/AutomaticSystemUpdate=Disable
2. Settings System/SystemUpdate/.../SmartUpdate=Disable
3. MagiskManager UninstallMagisk/RestoreImages
4. Settings System/SystemUpdate "doing normal update and wait for finish"
5. After OTA Instralled [B]NOT[/B] Restart
6. MagiskManager MagiskInstall/InstallToInactiveSlotAfterOTA/LetsGo "wait for finish"
7. After Magisk installed tap to Reboot button in Magisk Instalation wIndow...
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Tried the above steps, but OTA update unsuccessful. Discovered that phone still rooted so obviously step 3 did not work for me. What should I try next? How about fastboot of original boot.img?

flroots said:
Tried the above steps, but OTA update unsuccessful. Discovered that phone still rooted so obviously step 3 did not work for me. What should I try next? How about fastboot of original boot.img?
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step 3 restore boot image(what show you MagiskManager as output while you restore images??), but without reboot you have ofcourse still root, and you can't reboot if you want patch boot in other slot after ota via MagiskManager....
but i don't know reason why OTA failed anyway restoring original boot.img via fastboot be i think possible (not try in MotoGPro but manytime with Nokia7Plus)

k3dar7 said:
step 3 restore boot image(what show you MagiskManager as output while you restore images??), but without reboot you have ofcourse still root, and you can't reboot if you want patch boot in other slot after ota via MagiskManager....
but i don't know reason why OTA failed anyway restoring original boot.img via fastboot be i think possible (not try in MotoGPro but manytime with Nokia7Plus)
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Thanks. Magisk simply says, "restoration done". Once I fastboot boot.img will I need to re-install magisk from scratch or should I continue with steps 6 and 7?

flroots said:
Thanks. Magisk simply says, "restoration done". Once I fastboot boot.img will I need to re-install magisk from scratch or should I continue with steps 6 and 7?
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maybe magisk backup boot.img have already twrp inside if you install twrp before magisk?
anyway, if you flash stock boot.img, then step 6&7 is not applicable, because this need booted rooted system

btw: method above work for me also while i upgrade from Android10 to Android11 ;-)