I got my Desire several days ago, The phone RAM only shows 399MB in Avdanced Task Manager, why? Anyone knows?
Thanks a lot.
It's the free ram avaible from total. Andorid OS and apps and gadgets they all take its ram.
I think he meant ATM shows total of 399MB.
According to gsmarena, you get only 120MB free memory for apps...
ZUJAZAKON said:
I think he meant ATM shows total of 399MB.
According to gsmarena, you get only 120MB free memory for apps...
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yes,
will android 2.2 take all 576MB RAM for system? and give more size(more than 120MB) to apps.
So every spec sheet I've seen for this shows it has 768mb of ram. however, I was just looking through the ram use of an in store model through the "running apps" tab in the applications menu, and noticed that the amount of ram listed under "used" plus the amount under "free" added up to far less than 768, more like 500 or so. at first I thought maybe Sense/Tmo modded the menu to hide the RAM that Sense and some of the bloat apps eat up, but then I noticed many of the bloat apps were listed.
I also notice that my phone at this moment lists 149 used, 172 free. 149+172=322, yet my phone's spec sheets all say it has 512 RAM. so where is the rest? does Android itself hide its own use or something? or is it another reason I'm totally missing?
I believe some memories are shared with the graphic card and some reserved for the camera.
And memory is partitioned too.
Cedde is right, some memory is dedicated video memory and not available to the rest of the system.
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Hi! I would really like to buy this tablet but I heard from somewhere that the tegra 3 gpu and cpu needs 500mb of ram so that there would be only a half gig left to system.
So could somebody tell me what the available ram is for real on that tablet and is the amount of ram enough? And also is tf700 really worth the money?
Thanx in advance
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Stempanssi said:
Hi! I would really like to buy this tablet but I heard from somewhere that the tegra 3 gpu and cpu needs 500mb of ram so that there would be only a half gig left to system.
So could somebody tell me what the available ram is for real on that tablet and is the amount of ram enough? And also is tf700 really worth the money?
Thanx in advance
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You shouldn't judge it on how much ram it has left. RAM can be used to pre cache apps so theres no loading time. Different manufactures tweek the way android handles RAM. A tablet with less available RAM can run faster than one with more available RAM
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ian1 said:
You shouldn't judge it on how much ram it has left. RAM can be used to pre cache apps so theres no loading time. Different manufactures tweek the way android handles RAM. A tablet with less available RAM can run faster than one with more available RAM
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There's not a lot that you can do to clog up the available RAM on this thing anyways....Even if you had 500MB available, what kind of applications can actually fill up that space?
KilerG said:
There's not a lot that you can do to clog up the available RAM on this thing anyways....Even if you had 500MB available, what kind of applications can actually fill up that space?
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Thats what I wanted to know, but one thing more what's the real amount of ram left to system.
And do you think this tablet is worth the money?
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Stempanssi said:
Thats what I wanted to know, but one thing more what's the real amount of ram left to system.
And do you think this tablet is worth the money?
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I don't know how much RAM is being used, they're not available in the US quite yet. I can only guess that the system will use 500MB or less. On my Bionic, I don't have a big problem of not having enough RAM, so I don't expect it on the tablet (especially since the OS on the tablet is much cleaner than on my phone).
Worth the money? That's up to you. It has the best specs on the market right now and has the awesome keyboard dock, so I think it's worth it.
Listen to ian1, he had something important to say.
Also remember that Android has its own way of not only freeing memory used by running and idle processes, but also of managing various kinds of memory - it is not free/used dichotomy, you have to count in shared and buffered memory (you can actually see it in various OSs nowadays). I have about half of Infinity's 1GB RAM available normally (and right now), which is AFAIU free+buffered mainly.
The TF300 has a LOT of ram available on boot up. Almost a full GB I think.
Free ram is NOT a good indicator of how fast/usable your device is. Android is based on Linux, which has a philosophy of free ram is wasted ram. That is, your device will actually be faster if its ram is full. This is why task killers are considered to be so bad on Android. Just let Android manage itself and don't worry about it.
Ok thanks all I think i'm buying the tf300
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You have 976mb of ram most of it is used though
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So, I would like to compare other people RAM USAGE
Is mine normal? I dont have 100s of Apps, i Disable junk i dont need and keep mydevice well running.
Well, Do Post ! and Offer Advice!
Has anyone rooted and got rid of the MOTO things in RAM, ??? Like Moto care etc image 1
So here is my ram usage. Not rooted or anything.
And my storage
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So here is my ram usage. Not rooted or anything.
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Image 1 ? Whats - Whatsapp2date?? What on earth is that?
It's an app that searches for the newest wa version on the wa server and you can download it. Sometimes new versions are on the server for weeks before they are found in the play store
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Do not worry about the RAM usage. RAM is there to be used. There is no point in the system keeping lots of RAM free, this makes the system perform worse. The idea is that as apps are used (either started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course using RAM, the system keeps them in RAM so they can quickly be accessed next time they are required.
If the system closed all apps etc to free RAM you basically end up with more free RAM, but for what purpose. No use it sitting there empty - may as well go and buy a phone with 128MB rather than 1024MB if you dont want to use much RAM
If you start an app that needs a lot of RAM (more than is currently free) the system just removes older apps from RAM to free up the RAM required.
It is not worth comparing your phone's normal RAM usage to another phone, each person has different apps and uses the phone in different ways. It makes no sense at all to compare two phones where RAM is concerned.
Obviously there is the possibility that an app has a memory leak and starts to eat all the RAM up, but you would then most lilkely notice something was up with the phone, eg it slows down, things stop working etc. At that point you would reboot and note the RAM, then use the phone and monitor RAM every so often, at some point you may noitce RAM use going up and up to 100% - hopefully you are using a monitoring too to tell whats eating all the RAM and you then delete the app.
If your phone is running fine and you have some free RAM, even if just a smallish amount, then most likely things are running just as they should.
I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
are moto g with kitkat doing better in managing ram?since its a feature in 4.4.
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Do not worry about the RAM usage. RAM is tither started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course
I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
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Wow! Thanks you very much for replying and giving this infomation, helps alot! You learn something new each day! Yes!
and wow! 130GB RAM and yeah it makes sense now True Say! i understand it better now :good:
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are moto g with kitkat doing better in managing ram?since its a feature in 4.4.
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What do you mean "better"? Are you implying that Moto G in JB does "bad"? JB manages the RAM well enough for everyone as far as I've heard. If you want to have a lot of open apps, then you're going to run out of RAM, that's for sure, doesn't matter what version you are using.
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What do you mean "better"? Are you implying that Moto G in JB does "bad"? JB manages the RAM well enough for everyone as far as I've heard. If you want to have a lot of open apps, then you're going to run out of RAM, that's for sure, doesn't matter what version you are using.
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wow,hold on brother~thats not what i meant,the benefit of kitkat as u all know is better management in ram,eg device with 512mb ram,i wanna know whatever ram management are bttr in kitkat compare to jellybean for moto g user out there.
don't be so piss next time,do some research on kitkat 1st,peace
I know what's new on KitKat, don't be afraid
What I wanted to say is that Moto G doesn't have any problems with RAM management, so you shouldn't expect anything much to change.
If you are desperate about the numbers, someone posted before that it decreased by ~20-30MB when idle. And if you want to see the changes with specific apps open, you would have to do a thorough inspection with 4.3 first, then compare it after the update. You wouldn't notice anything from the point of a user using the phone.
Thanks
scott_doyland said:
Do not worry about the RAM usage. RAM is there to be used. There is no point in the system keeping lots of RAM free, this makes the system perform worse. The idea is that as apps are used (either started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course using RAM, the system keeps them in RAM so they can quickly be accessed next time they are required.
If the system closed all apps etc to free RAM you basically end up with more free RAM, but for what purpose. No use it sitting there empty - may as well go and buy a phone with 128MB rather than 1024MB if you dont want to use much RAM
If you start an app that needs a lot of RAM (more than is currently free) the system just removes older apps from RAM to free up the RAM required.
It is not worth comparing your phone's normal RAM usage to another phone, each person has different apps and uses the phone in different ways. It makes no sense at all to compare two phones where RAM is concerned.
Obviously there is the possibility that an app has a memory leak and starts to eat all the RAM up, but you would then most lilkely notice something was up with the phone, eg it slows down, things stop working etc. At that point you would reboot and note the RAM, then use the phone and monitor RAM every so often, at some point you may noitce RAM use going up and up to 100% - hopefully you are using a monitoring too to tell whats eating all the RAM and you then delete the app.
If your phone is running fine and you have some free RAM, even if just a smallish amount, then most likely things are running just as they should.
I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
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Thanks buddy. You made this thread closed. Thumbs up :good:
scott_doyland said:
Do not worry about the RAM usage. RAM is there to be used. There is no point in the system keeping lots of RAM free, this makes the system perform worse. The idea is that as apps are used (either started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course using RAM, the system keeps them in RAM so they can quickly be accessed next time they are required.
If the system closed all apps etc to free RAM you basically end up with more free RAM, but for what purpose. No use it sitting there empty - may as well go and buy a phone with 128MB rather than 1024MB if you dont want to use much RAM
If you start an app that needs a lot of RAM (more than is currently free) the system just removes older apps from RAM to free up the RAM required.
It is not worth comparing your phone's normal RAM usage to another phone, each person has different apps and uses the phone in different ways. It makes no sense at all to compare two phones where RAM is concerned.
Obviously there is the possibility that an app has a memory leak and starts to eat all the RAM up, but you would then most lilkely notice something was up with the phone, eg it slows down, things stop working etc. At that point you would reboot and note the RAM, then use the phone and monitor RAM every so often, at some point you may noitce RAM use going up and up to 100% - hopefully you are using a monitoring too to tell whats eating all the RAM and you then delete the app.
If your phone is running fine and you have some free RAM, even if just a smallish amount, then most likely things are running just as they should.
I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
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One of the best explainations i have ever read ... Hats off
With regards to 4.3 v 4.4. Some processes have to always be running and therefore use RAM, ie android operating system processes. Google have made kitkat use less RAM (don't know how as actual coding of OS's isn't something I know about).
The outcome is the OS itself uses less RAM which leaves more RAM for apps. It means you can potentially have more apps 'running', but in general on devices with plenty of RAM its not that relevant. For devices with less RAM it becomes more relevant really as the device will run smoother if it has more RAM spare (ie not in use by OS) to keep apps in memory, which is why 4.4 should run on lower spec devices than 4.3 can run on.
Bear in mind a PlayStation 3 has 256MB RAM and 256MB video RAM and look at the games you can run on there. Slightly different as the ps3 OS probably swaps/pages memory to disk but AFAIK android doesn't, but it gives an idea of what you can do with 1GB of memory on a phone
Theoretically KitKat utilises ram more efficiently,when Google introduced project butter in jelly bean it added bulk to android,all those jellybeans and butter made android get fat, with KitKat they introduced project svelte to minimize the bulk and make the os leaner,Google reckons KitKat can run smoothly on 512 mb of ram, whereas jellybean,but don't quote me needs at least 1 mb I think to operate smoothly.I run a lot of apps and at least 11 xposed modules and I usually have Around 200 mb of free ram.just let android do its job,although saying that I do greenify Facebook.
Moto G UK with KitKat US (rooted)
This is just the phone idle after a couple of minutes, of turning it on.
No applications open, and i did remove the Moto Care and Motorola Assist using Titanium Backup.
scott_doyland said:
I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
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I'm an IBM tech and repair those types of servers. I work on everything from Power 7 down to the Power 4 and disk storage and tape libraries.
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I'm an IBM tech and repair those types of servers. I work on everything from Power 7 down to the Power 4 and disk storage and tape libraries.
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Off-topic but I actually stopped being an AIX sysadmin 3 or so years ago and now Iook after IBM SVC, DS8K's V7000's, VTL, TSM etc.
Hi guys, as the titles says, how much ram is user available on the 2gb version?
By user available i mean adding the used+free ram.
I am asking this because my nexus 10 is supposed to have 2gb of ram, but only 1.1gb is user available, the remainder is taken up by the OS.
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Hi guys, as the titles says, how much ram is user available on the 2gb version?
By user available i mean adding the used+free ram.
I am asking this because my nexus 10 is supposed to have 2gb of ram, but only 1.1gb is user available, the remainder is taken up by the OS.
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1850 is maximum . if you freeze a lot of bloatware after reboot you have estimated 1gb ram free left.
After a lot of use without a reboot free memory drops to 650.
Memory is not a problem since it is also ddr4.
Also in android less memory left is sometimes better.