Hi,
I have Oreo on Pixel XL, and was wondering if there's any way to unlock the bootloader with dePixel8 or otherwise so I can install TWRP/root?
Thanks!
No
I was given the phone from a family member. I'm assuming it was Verizon, but I use it on Sprint now. Under developer options, OEM unlocking is greyed out, and it says to go online or talk to carrier.
Surely there's a way to root this phone?
H0wdy said:
I was given the phone from a family member. I'm assuming it was Verizon, but I use it on Sprint now. Under developer options, OEM unlocking is greyed out, and it says to go online or talk to carrier.
Surely there's a way to root this phone?
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If it's a Verizon phone (sounds like it is), no. There is currently no way to root. If it's a Google phone, it can be done. However, for the option in developer options to not be greyed out, you need to be connected to the internet one way or another. If you are connected and it's still greyed out, it's almost certain that it's a Verizon phone.
robocuff said:
If it's a Verizon phone (sounds like it is), no. There is currently no way to root. If it's a Google phone, it can be done. However, for the option in developer options to not be greyed out, you need to be connected to the internet one way or another. If you are connected and it's still greyed out, it's almost certain that it's a Verizon phone.
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Robocuff,
Thank you. That seems to be my situation, but I was wondering why this isn't an option?
https://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-pixelpixel-xl-bootloader-unlock-has-been-released/
Does it no longer work? I understand it probably doesn't, but I didn't know if there was another way.
H0wdy said:
Robocuff,
Thank you. That seems to be my situation, but I was wondering why this isn't an option?
https://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-pixelpixel-xl-bootloader-unlock-has-been-released/
Does it no longer work? I understand it probably doesn't, but I didn't know if there was another way.
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dePixel8 doesn't work anymore. It only worked for a couple months. Google patched the hole that dePixel8 exploited in the December security update. So, any Verizon phone that was updated in December or anytime after and wasn't all ready unlocked, became unlockable after that.
robocuff said:
dePixel8 doesn't work anymore. It only worked for a couple months. Google patched the hole that dePixel8 exploited in the December security update. So, any Verizon phone that was updated in December or anytime after and wasn't all ready unlocked, became unlockable after that.
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Thanks. I guess I'll wait to see if something else occurs.
I wonder if overwriting the Verizon Pixel's bootloader with a non-Verizon bootloader from one of the factory images would work. The logic behind this is that all G-2PW2100s seemd to have identical hardwares, and factory images contain all the bootloader/radio partition images; so in theory, flashing a non-Verizon factory image should make the device non-Verizon.
(Please note that this is just a theory & I have not tested this. There's a chance that doing this will brick the device.)
AncientDeveloper said:
I wonder if overwriting the Verizon Pixel's bootloader with a non-Verizon bootloader from one of the factory images would work. The logic behind this is that all G-2PW2100s seemd to have identical hardwares, and factory images contain all the bootloader/radio partition images; so in theory, flashing a non-Verizon factory image should make the device non-Verizon.
(Please note that this is just a theory & I have not tested this. There's a chance that doing this will brick the device.)
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I don't believe this will work. The accepted theory is that Verizon locks the bootloader by IMEI number, so if your phone has an IMEI that is on the list, it will be locked no matter what. However, I'm not sure if anyone has tried to change their IMEI to test this theory. I'm also not sure if you can change your IMEI without root. That would require an unlocked bootloader, so probably no way to test.
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I don't believe this will work. The accepted theory is that Verizon locks the bootloader by IMEI number, so if your phone has an IMEI that is on the list, it will be locked no matter what. However, I'm not sure if anyone has tried to change their IMEI to test this theory. I'm also not sure if you can change your IMEI without root. That would require an unlocked bootloader, so probably no way to test.
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But the bootloader is still locked locally. So even the phone sends the IMEI to Verizon, and Verizon sends some command back to the phone to lock it, it shouldn't require changing the IMEI to unlock.
AncientDeveloper said:
But the bootloader is still locked locally. So even the phone sends the IMEI to Verizon, and Verizon sends some command back to the phone to lock it, it shouldn't require changing the IMEI to unlock.
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I wish someone could figure out how to get it done.
Hi - My Verizon Pixel XL is on Oreo OPR3 and OEM unlocking is *not* greyed out but bootloader status is LOCKED. Is it possible with my setup?
Edit: OEM unlocking is *not* greyed out even on Wifi
nyisles said:
Hi - My Verizon Pixel XL is on Oreo OPR3 and OEM unlocking is *not* greyed out but bootloader status is LOCKED. Is it possible with my setup?
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Yep, Google has messed up on quite a few phones. Hit that slider now. That won't unlock it, you still have to issue the fastboot command. But moving that slider now will future proof you if you want to unlock.
jmartin72 said:
I wish someone could figure out how to get it done.
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While I haven't figured out a way to gain the ability to write to the eMMC, it seems that the last byte on the eMMC controls whether the device is unlockable.
Pixxlman said:
What if we could overwrite the bootloader and leave the sim out of the phone and activate it with wifi then verizon can't check the imei and can't lock it? i have a verizon pixel XL i can try this with if someone could walk me through overwriting a bootloader
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There are multiple problems with that theory. First, Verizon does not lock them. They all come locked, when they start up they phone home to Google and get permission to unlock. And two, the SIM has nothing to do with locking.
What is the point of Google shipping the phones with two different bootloaders and unlocked and locked states.
Some hope with the clkscrew exploit? Sounded like the phone needed to be rooted to work, but being able to pull trustzone keys from a Google variant could possibly enable a workable patch for the Verizon variant.
Have no idea, but sure sounds plausible.
H0wdy said:
Robocuff,
Thank you. That seems to be my situation, but I was wondering why this isn't an option?
https://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-pixelpixel-xl-bootloader-unlock-has-been-released/
Does it no longer work? I understand it probably doesn't, but I didn't know if there was another way.
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dePixel8 doesn't work anymore. It only worked for a couple months. Google patched the hole that dePixel8 exploited in the December security update. So, any Verizon phone that was updated in December or anytime after and wasn't all ready unlocked, became unlockable after that.
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Google did not close the exploit. Verizon did with the release of 7.1.2 in November 2016.
AncientDeveloper said:
I wonder if overwriting the Verizon Pixel's bootloader with a non-Verizon bootloader from one of the factory images would work. The logic behind this is that all G-2PW2100s seemd to have identical hardwares, and factory images contain all the bootloader/radio partition images; so in theory, flashing a non-Verizon factory image should make the device non-Verizon.
(Please note that this is just a theory & I have not tested this. There's a chance that doing this will brick the device.)
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The package will probably fail to install after modifying because of improper signature. It has been tried before....
AncientDeveloper said:
While I haven't figured out a way to gain the ability to write to the eMMC, it seems that the last byte on the eMMC controls whether the device is unlockable.
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Probably encrypted, you don't have access to the correct tools, or both.
Would flashing the original image from Google onto the phone and running depixel then. Would that work? Or has that been tried?
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gobi42 said:
Would flashing the original image from Google onto the phone and running depixel then. Would that work? Or has that been tried?
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No. You can't downgrade with a locked bootloader.
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Hey guys, I'm wondering if anyone has done this, or knows if it's possible to (after unlocking bootloader) flash the Google stock Pixel system image instead of the Verizon one? I'm assuming the hardware and firmware are identical, but am not sure and am not skilled enough (or at all) in code to know if its possible. I bought my phone through Verizon, only because nowhere else had stock. I use it on T-Mobile, but fear there may be some behind the scenes Verizon stuff going on that may hinder my phone on T-Mobile. I haven't experienced any issues yet, but with the Nov security update mentioning a specific fix for wifi calling in New Mexico only on the Verizon pixels, it makes me weary that there is more happening beneath the surface than I am aware of. Thanks for any and all help! Appreciate it.
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Hey guys, I'm wondering if anyone has done this, or knows if it's possible to (after unlocking bootloader) flash the Google stock Pixel system image instead of the Verizon one? I'm assuming the hardware and firmware are identical, but am not sure and am not skilled enough (or at all) in code to know if its possible. I bought my phone through Verizon, only because nowhere else had stock. I use it on T-Mobile, but fear there may be some behind the scenes Verizon stuff going on that may hinder my phone on T-Mobile. I haven't experienced any issues yet, but with the Nov security update mentioning a specific fix for wifi calling in New Mexico only on the Verizon pixels, it makes me weary that there is more happening beneath the surface than I am aware of. Thanks for any and all help! Appreciate it.
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I did yesterday, bought mine from Best Buy and I unlock the BL. Sideload the OTA yesterday and I used NDE63V that comes with new radio. oh I'm also on Tmobile
jay661972 said:
I did yesterday, bought mine from Best Buy and I unlock the BL. Sideload the OTA yesterday and I used NDE63V that comes with new radio. oh I'm also on Tmobile
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Awesome! Thanks for the info... Really glad to know I can convert if need be. Thanks again!
jay661972 said:
I did yesterday, bought mine from Best Buy and I unlock the BL. Sideload the OTA yesterday and I used NDE63V that comes with new radio. oh I'm also on Tmobile
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Interesting side note on this...
I went ahead and unlocked my bootloader and flashed Google's stock Pixel image. All went well, no problems... Until I tried to use Android Pay. It's telling me my software can't be verified. And I out of curiosity checked, and the "allow OEM unlocking" in developer options is still greyed out, and not selectable, even though my BL is unlocked. Hoping this doesn't mean that we can't take an OTA. Weird, I guess we'll have to wait and see when next month's security update comes out...
newbienic said:
Interesting side note on this...
I went ahead and unlocked my bootloader and flashed Google's stock Pixel image. All went well, no problems... Until I tried to use Android Pay. It's telling me my software can't be verified. And I out of curiosity checked, and the "allow OEM unlocking" in developer options is still greyed out, and not selectable, even though my BL is unlocked. Hoping this doesn't mean that we can't take an OTA. Weird, I guess we'll have to wait and see when next month's security update comes out...
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Just having an unlocked bootloader trips SafetyNet now and you can't use Android Pay without a custom kernel.
ITGuy11 said:
Just having an unlocked bootloader trips SafetyNet now and you can't use Android Pay without a custom kernel.
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And the OEM unlock option appears to be dependent on device ID (imeid? Ccid?), And not the software. So don't relock it, and you're fine
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danaff37 said:
And the OEM unlock option appears to be dependent on device ID (imeid? Ccid?), And not the software. So don't relock it, and you're fine
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One thing I just realized, is in Developer Options, its greyed out like I mentioned, but also says "Bootloader is already unlocked". Which I actually remember seeing on my Nexus 5x when the bootloader was unlocked. It's got me really curious about re locking the bootloader. Mainly cause I actually use Android Pay. Had no idea bootloader unlocks are actually tripping safety net now. Major bummer. If anyone has gone through this process with a Verizon pixel and has actually relocked their bootloader with no issues I'd certainly appreciate any info you have. Otherwise, I may have to dive in blind and hope for the best.
If you want to use Android pay, flash a custom kernel but don't root. Works for me.
Don't relock if you ever want to have it rooted, custom, etc. The unlock method isn't going to survive another security update.
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danaff37 said:
If you want to use Android pay, flash a custom kernel but don't root. Works for me.
Don't relock if you ever want to have it rooted, custom, etc. The unlock method isn't going to survive another security update.
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Hypathetically, if I didn't want root or anything custom at all, do you think that relocking the bootloader could cause an issue while using the Stock Google image on a Verizon Pixel? I wish I had more knowledge on this, but I'm pretty in the dark on this stuff as of late... Thanks for your help!
Should be fine if all stock I think, just know that you may not be able to unlock later.
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One thing I just realized, is in Developer Options, its greyed out like I mentioned, but also says "Bootloader is already unlocked". Which I actually remember seeing on my Nexus 5x when the bootloader was unlocked. It's got me really curious about re locking the bootloader. Mainly cause I actually use Android Pay. Had no idea bootloader unlocks are actually tripping safety net now. Major bummer. If anyone has gone through this process with a Verizon pixel and has actually relocked their bootloader with no issues I'd certainly appreciate any info you have. Otherwise, I may have to dive in blind and hope for the best.
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Contrary to what people are saying. You CAN relock your bootloader and then unlock it again later. However, keep in mind that at some point there will likely be an update that blocks the use of dePixel8 and you will no longer be able to unlock the bootloader unless someone writes another exploit.
I would like to find a way to permanently unlock VZW Pixels but until I get one from the Google Store to compare with my Verizon one I don't think I will make much progress.
Relocking your bootloader is as simple as running the "fastboot oem lock" command from the terminal window.
Lastly. If you want to relock the bootloader, make sure your phone is 100% stock image or you risk bricking the phone
If I were to buy the Verizon pixel and flash the unlocked (non European) image. How do you think updates would work? Would I get seamless updates from Google or would I need to flash every Ota manually. Might be too early to tell
b316kane said:
If I were to buy the Verizon pixel and flash the unlocked (non European) image. How do you think updates would work? Would I get seamless updates from Google or would I need to flash every Ota manually. Might be too early to tell
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This is exactly what I did, and I am curious as well... We'll see next month I guess, but I'm guessing it will take the OTA just fine. My wife has a Pixel from the Google store, and mine is from Verizon. I've compared everything (including booloaders) since flashing the Google store Pixel image, and every informational detail is identical. Not sure if there is some other place hidden to me that might indicate a difference, but I'm thinking that Verizon's Pixel is only different in its official software image... And, that may be it. Please don't take my word for it, I'm no developer, and know very little about any of this, but in my comparisons, they are identical now since flashing Googles official (Non Verizon, Non European) image.
Sidenote, I have yet to try this, but I'm thinking that since I am on Googles image, that if I re-lock my bootloader, that I WILL be able to unlock again after locking. I think Verizon used Googles "Allow OEM Unlocking" software toggle in developer options as the only method to actually keep people from unlocking the bootloader (again speculative), and now that I'm on Googles image, that software "block" should no longer be present, so I should in theory, be free to lock/unlock the same as Pixels purchased from the Google store... Again, I've got no proof, or actual skill to back this up, but it's a theory I have, and if I end up locking my BL again, I'll post what I find...
newbienic said:
I have yet to try this, but I'm thinking that since I am on Googles image, that if I re-lock my bootloader, that I WILL be able to unlock again after locking.
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In the Verizon unlocking threads the people that tried relocking reported that they were unable to unlock again without depixel8, which is the same as how the Verizon phone typically works. Some people seem to have gotten into situations that could have been corrected with an unlocked bootloader, but because they had a locked bootloader that couldn't be unlocked using depixel8 they had no easy solution to get their phone working again at this time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/psa-read-relocking-bootloader-t3494615
alluringreality said:
In the Verizon unlocking threads the people that tried relocking reported that they were unable to unlock again without depixel8, which is the same as how the Verizon phone typically works. Some people seem to have gotten into situations that could have been corrected with an unlocked bootloader, but because they had a locked bootloader that couldn't be unlocked using depixel8 they had no easy solution to get their phone working again at this time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/psa-read-relocking-bootloader-t3494615
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Thanks for the heads up!!! Like I said, I really know nothing, just speculating. Appreciate you looking out.
newbienic said:
Thanks for the heads up!!! Like I said, I really know nothing, just speculating. Appreciate you looking out.
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I forget where, but I saw written or implied that the "checking for updates" screen about third of way through initial setup of first boot uses WiFi AND sim carrier data to install Verizon custom restrictions and settings that among other effects make depixel8 required.
Even on "non Verizon phones" (which you are saying use the same build images byte to byte?)... You have to either use a SIM card or wifi and google account to allow the developer options to enable OEM unlock.
My theory: In other words, if you don't allow via SIM and a network wifi or data connect, for Verizon to mark your phone, or another carrier, then the phone can not be unlocked. So carrier models may indeed be differentiated from current factory images AFTER boot and setup.
There is a post in Q&A of someone trying to unlock bootloader without loading into the device, not having luck. This is why oem unlock toggle is so important and why people are bricking from locked bootloaders that won't unlock (so no wipe and factory images cannot be flashed.)
Another thing to consider: SIM network lock will not be flashed over.
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Hey all, just got my pixel. Wanna stay on stock, but maybe root? I want to get my hotspot enabled, so do I need to root to do this? I'm on sprint. Any guidance! Thank you!
If you don't or can't get hotspot enable you may have to root to get it. Plenty of info on how.
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Since you are on Sprint I'm going to guess you bought directly from Google. To my knowledge you can disregard any convos about updates locking you down. That only seems to affect devices bought through Verizon.
FernBch said:
If you don't or can't get hotspot enable you may have to root to get it. Plenty of info on how.
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Since you are on Sprint I'm going to guess you bought directly from Google. To my knowledge you can disregard any convos about updates locking you down. That only seems to affect devices bought through Verizon.
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Yes sprint and bought directly from play store.
Guess I'll start with this tool eH?
forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/development/tool-skipsoft-android--google-t3482761
Problem is, I already updated via OTA to latest version. Am I screwed?
Screwed?? If you mean BL locked, no. I have the Verizon branded variant but unlocked, rooted, and flashed SU. When I saw NMF26Q was available from Google I downloaded it, installed via flash-all from fastboot, then rerooted and flashed SU again no problem.
chugger93 said:
Hey all, just got my pixel. Wanna stay on stock, but maybe root? I want to get my hotspot enabled, so do I need to root to do this? I'm on sprint. Any guidance! Thank you!
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Please look at OP install instructions in this thread.
Please look at OP install instruction in TWRP thread.
I guess you aren't on Telus in Canada or your hotspot would work. When you give no information, too hard to help. But I read this forum so even though I don't have Sprint or Verizon as my provider, I know there are many threads about turning hotspot on for unlimited data plans. Guidance: read those threads too!
Then ask for specific guidance. I don't want to reread for 25 min to find and copy and paste to spoonfeed when you should read. Much nicer to fill in a few missing spots than hold your hand not having a clue of your technical knowledge and skills.
Happy holidays.
Specific guidance: update SDK tools before you start!
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so I managed to unlock and run the fastboot command to push SuperSU to my new pixel. All seems good so far...but when I restart my device I get a "your device software cant be checked for corruption" message. What is that all about? Assuming from unlocking the bootloader. Is this permanent? or can I now relock bootloader since I'm rooted?
chugger93 said:
so I managed to unlock and run the fastboot command to push SuperSU to my new pixel. All seems good so far...but when I restart my device I get a "your device software cant be checked for corruption" message. What is that all about? Assuming from unlocking the bootloader. Is this permanent?
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It just means your bootloader is unlocked and isn't anything to be worried about. As long as your bootloader is unlocked it will show.
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chugger93 said:
so I managed to unlock and run the fastboot command to push SuperSU to my new pixel. All seems good so far...but when I restart my device I get a "your device software cant be checked for corruption" message. What is that all about? Assuming from unlocking the bootloader. Is this permanent?
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It just means your bootloader is unlocked and isn't anything to be worried about. As long as your bootloader is unlocked it will show.
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Nothing to worry about. I just ignore it.
joetheshmo said:
It just means your bootloader is unlocked and isn't anything to be worried about. As long as your bootloader is unlocked it will show.
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That's Verizon's equivalence of "Sorry sucka, you're on your own!"
chugger93 said:
so I managed to unlock and run the fastboot command to push SuperSU to my new pixel. All seems good so far...but when I restart my device I get a "your device software cant be checked for corruption" message. What is that all about? Assuming from unlocking the bootloader. Is this permanent? or can I now relock bootloader since I'm rooted?
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Do not relock your bootloader unless you are fully 100% stock or you run the risk of bricking your phone
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joetheshmo said:
Do not relock your bootloader unless you are fully 100% stock or you run the risk of bricking your phone
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That makes sense. Ya havnt used a ROM or anything, do not plan on it. So for now I'm stock. So I can relock it though, get rid of that message but still maintain SuperSU/root right?
My only goal is to get hotspot working (sprint)
chugger93 said:
That makes sense. Ya havnt used a ROM or anything, do not plan on it. So for now I'm stock. So I can relock it though, get rid of that message but still maintain SuperSU/root right?
My only goal is to get hotspot working (sprint)
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If you're rooted and have done the tether hack you're no longer stock. Don't lock the bootloader unless you are COMPLETELY stock.
robocuff said:
If you're rooted and have done the tether hack you're no longer stock. Don't lock the bootloader unless you are COMPLETELY stock.
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Which tether hack? This one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/themes/mod-tethermod-systemless-install-guide-t3501448
If so, I have not done any tether hack yet....still reading since there are multiple ways to do it. (sprint variant/google play store)
chugger93 said:
That makes sense. Ya havnt used a ROM or anything, do not plan on it. So for now I'm stock. So I can relock it though, get rid of that message but still maintain SuperSU/root right?
My only goal is to get hotspot working (sprint)
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No, having SuperSU means you are no longer stock. You need all stock images to lock bootloader.
If you need a locked bootloader for Android Pay or some other apps. Install one of the customer kernels, they hide it. You still need to remove SuperSU though. From what I've seen its a bit harder to hide that for now. So you can root, make change for hotspot and remove root.
Otherwise nothing hurts to have your bootloader unlocked. It gives you more options if anything ever goes wrong. You need unlocked bootloader to even load Google factory images.
PS. I'd recommend Franco kernel as it imporoves battery life.
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chugger93 said:
Hey all, just got my pixel. Wanna stay on stock, but maybe root? I want to get my hotspot enabled, so do I need to root to do this? I'm on sprint. Any guidance! Thank you!
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No you don't have to root to have hotspot enabled, it's a build-in function. Simply set it up in “wireless & networks” and you are ready to go:laugh:
eos9d said:
No you don't have to root to have hotspot enabled, it's a build-in function. Simply set it up in �wireless & networks� and you are ready to go[emoji23]
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Depending on his plan, he may not have that option. Many do not, hence still need the tether hack.
Hi everyone. I just won a Google Pixel. The contest was on a tech site and prize was provided by verizon. The phone package doesn't show verizon on it at all. Is there a way to tell if it is verzion locked? Also what does it mean if it is? Will I not get the updates when they go out? I am currently with T-Mobile and my phone before is a Nexus 6P. I haven't rooted or flashed a phone in years. Doesn't mean I'm not willing. Just thought I'd post and see if I could get some advice on what to do next with my Google Pixel. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
When you get the phone, reboot it to bootloader mode and use fastboot from your pc (obviously connect phone to computer first) and run the command: fastboot oem unlock
If it unlocks then you're money. If not, it's prolly Verizon and if that's the case try to figure out what software is on the phone (pray that it's an old phone somehow) before they fixed the bootloader workaround.
uodii said:
When you get the phone, reboot it to bootloader mode and use fastboot from your pc (obviously connect phone to computer first) and run the command: fastboot oem unlock
If it unlocks then you're money. If not, it's prolly Verizon and if that's the case try to figure out what software is on the phone (pray that it's an old phone somehow) before they fixed the bootloader workaround.
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It won't unlock that way no matter what version if he doesn't hit the slider first.
OP:
You will get updates from google if it does not have a Verizon sim in it. If it does they come from Verizon. The Verizon version of the software has some tweeks for their network, nothing more.
To find out if it is unlockable hit the developer options and find 'oem unlock' if you can slide it to allow oem unlock it is a Google version. That will not unlock it, that will allow you to then do what the poster above said...and that will unlock it.
You must have an internet connection to use the slider. That can be just with wifi if you want. It phones home to see if it is allowed to unlock. And that is the only difference between a VZ version and a Google version. It is in the data base to be unlockable or not.
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It won't unlock that way no matter what version if he doesn't hit the slider first.
OP:
You will get updates from google if it does not have a Verizon sim in it. If it does they come from Verizon. The Verizon version of the software has some tweeks for their network, nothing more.
To find out if it is unlockable hit the developer options and find 'oem unlock' if you can slide it to allow oem unlock it is a Google version. That will not unlock it, that will allow you to then do what the poster above said...and that will unlock it.
You must have an internet connection to use the slider. That can be just with wifi if you want. It phones home to see if it is allowed to unlock. And that is the only difference between a VZ version and a Google version. It is in the data base to be unlockable or not.
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I forgot about that in the developer settings. It's been a while since I did that. Good catch.
Thanks. Unfortunately the oem unlocking option isn't available. So I should be able to just pop my T-mobile Sim in and have no issues?
GeekyWilliam said:
Thanks. Unfortunately the oem unlocking option isn't available. So I should be able to just pop my T-mobile Sim in and have no issues?
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Yep, you will be all set. And updates will come from google.
About phone...what version of N is it on? Dont let it update until you answer that. If it is lower than 7.1.1 you can unlock it still.
http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
It is 7.1. Thanks again!
GeekyWilliam said:
It is 7.1. Thanks again!
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Hit it now. You don't have to full unlock but depixel8 it and get the slider done before it updates.
Ok. I'll do it now. Once I depixel8 then I can get the updates?
GeekyWilliam said:
Ok. I'll do it now. Once I depixel8 then I can get the updates?
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Yea, you can finish the unlock later after it updates. But be aware the next step in unlocking will wipe your phone. So you may want to get it over with.
Hello guys.
I'm going to buy used and bootloader unlocked Verizon Pixel tomorrow and I'm interested in couple of things:
1. Can I flash all the ROMs that are available for Pixel on Verizon version too?
2. Can I properly install TWRP, root using Magisk, etc?
3. Can I properly flash (and downgrade if needed) official system images (and are they ever available for Verizon models?)
4. Can I take part in Android Beta program?
5. Is there anything I should be afraid of?
Thanks in advance.
Make sure it is bootloader unlocked, and not just SIM unlocked. There are not many VZ ones around that are bootloader unlocked. You need that to do the items on you list.
TonikJDK said:
Make sure it is bootloader unlocked, and not just SIM unlocked. There are not many VZ ones around that area bootloader unlocked. You need that to do the items on you list.
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As I already stated, bootloader is already unlocked.
No one has an answer?
If it's bootloader u locked then yeah u can do all those things. Just do not ever for any reason ever relock the bootloader. Also I believe there have been a few cases where ppl have had semibricks or other issues which required locked stock to fix or somehow resulted in locked stock
I got a replacement about a month ago on my small Pixel and that one was unlocked. However, the one I got from Verizon in store did not have an unlocked bootloader. I'm not sure what the deal is, but maybe getting a replacement from an "accidental" break might do the trick. just to clarify, my first Pixels' usb port got completely fried and started to smell bad whenever it charged, and the phone would get really hot. I am now on 8.1 with an unlocked bootloader but have yet to actually root the phone
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If it's bootloader u locked then yeah u can do all those things. Just do not ever for any reason ever relock the bootloader. Also I believe there have been a few cases where ppl have had semibricks or other issues which required locked stock to fix or somehow resulted in locked stock
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Thank you!
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Thank you!
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Np
So you got the Edge S and want GApps? Basically you unlock your bootloader, root with Magisk, then install MagiskGApps.
DISCLAIMER: UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY, AND DOING ALL THESE THINGS IN THIS GUIDE MAY RESULT IN DAMAGE/BRICKING YOUR PHONE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING YOU DO TO YOUR PHONE. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
1. Unlock the bootloader: that should be doable with their global bootloader unlock website here.
2. Download Lenovo Motoroa Smart Assistant (Rescue and Smart Assistant), and follow its instructions to "rescue" your device. It will lead you to boot into bootloader mode and download the firmware. Find the firmware file via the LMSA's downloads (should have a "show folder" button). You'll need the boot.img file for Magisk.
3. Download Magisk, then follow its instructions. You'll have to copy the boot.img to your device, then use Magisk to patch the boot file, then copy the modified one to your PC.
4. You'll need fastboot. If you don't have it already, you can download the Android SDK platform tools here. Then go into the folder, Shift+Right Click the folder, then "Open Command Prompt" or "Open PowerShell," you should have something close to one of those two. Copy your Magisk modified .img file to that folder, then you'll want to input:
fastboot flash boot [modified .img file]
Once that completes, you should see in large text, "Start" on your phone next to the power button. Press the power button, and it should boot, and you should have root now.
5. Download MagiskGApps to your phone, open Magisk on your phone, click the button that looks like a puzzle piece at the bottom of the screen, "Modules." Click "Install from storage," locate the MagiskGApps file, and install it. After that it will ask you to restart your phone, do that, then you'll just have to be patient as it takes time once its restarted to load everything. You also may need to update some or all of the apps, then you should be able to use the notification to finish setting up the phone with Google Setup.
Thanks to Motorola for making it easy to unlock their bootloaders
Thanks to the whole Magisk team for making an easy, awesome root (and more!)
Thanks to Wacko1805 (and team?) for making MagiskGApps. This is really awesome.
unlock the BL and get root is will make some apps fingerprint and face ID fail?
kimker said:
unlock the BL and get root is will make some apps fingerprint and face ID fail?
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Magisk has a "Magisk Hide" which will allow it to pass SafetyNet, and most things which check on device security will think the device is secure. But unlocking BL and rooting does make the device less secure, and therefore incurs its own risks apart from bricking or damaging the device.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
Magisk has a "Magisk Hide" which will allow it to pass SafetyNet, and most things which check on device security will think the device is secure. But unlocking BL and rooting does make the device less secure, and therefore incurs its own risks apart from bricking or damaging the device.
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yes, i knew the unlock and root will take risk.. but not sure is Payment business apps using fingerprint will work normal.
kimker said:
yes, i knew the unlock and root will take risk.. but not sure is Payment business apps using fingerprint will work normal.
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Google Pay works. But according to the Motorola website you should be able to relock the bootloader if yours doesn't work. But there's never any guarantee. If you need your device secure, recommend don't unlock bl or root, or wait to see if there's a root option without bootloader unlock that can be easily undone.
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Google Pay works. But according to the Motorola website you should be able to relock the bootloader if yours doesn't work. But there's never any guarantee. If you need your device secure, recommend don't unlock bl or root, or wait to see if there's a root option without bootloader unlock that can be easily undone.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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That's not good. Hopefully they can restore it back somehow. With this guide to unlock and flash gapps why would you need to flash G100 though? This seems to be itright now without one of rom developer's releases to get root & apps. For me this is all i would look for. Titanium backup on it and restore.. done until PE rom comes out.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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thank you. They did not ask for help. It seems that the lock BL is a self-verification switch, and then performs a verification system integrity.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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I'm curious,If you unlock and flash other firmware and then flash back to the original firmware, can it be locked again?
Mine doesn't let me unlock its BL. I've got unlock code from moto and did a factory reset with SIM card in slot 1. After enabling developer mode and debugging the switch still is greyed out. So no chance to unlock it.
Has anyone got an idea what to try now?
Moto support answered yesterday to my request but also no solution since I told them that it doesn't work
Device is not branded. I got it from Amazon so no provider branding.
If this won't be able to be unlocked and rooted I'll have to return it and switch to a Google Pixel.
kischde said:
Mine doesn't let me unlock its BL. I've got unlock code from moto and did a factory reset with SIM card in slot 1. After enabling developer mode and debugging the switch still is greyed out. So no chance to unlock it.
Has anyone got an idea what to try now?
Moto support answered yesterday to my request but also no solution since I told them that it doesn't work
Device is not branded. I got it from Amazon so no provider branding.
If this won't be able to be unlocked and rooted I'll have to return it and switch to a Google Pixel.
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I had the same issue, you need to factory reset WITH your sim card in the phone, this will let you open the OEM unlock slide thing in the dev mode.
Then once its done you can fastboot and unlock the bootloader.
I did so, maybe I explained not so well. SIM was inserted and then I did factory reset by starting it from settings. After restart it's still the same - switch / unlock slider greyed out.
kischde said:
I did so, maybe I explained not so well. SIM was inserted and then I did factory reset by starting it from settings. After restart it's still the same - switch / unlock slider greyed out.
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On my OG Pixel XL, I had to wait 7 days for the slider to become normal. By the time I got around to do it on the Edge S it was about the same time.... could be related
Now as you said that I remember that thingy with another device. Maybe a Xiaomi I think... With that I had to wait several days until the unlock code was delivered.
But there was a message, too, when trying to get it sooner, which said you needed to wait some more time.
Not sure if it's the the same for Moto devices? Then again, when thinking that you experienced the same with a Pixel, too...
Did anyone else make such an experience with his/her g100?
kischde said:
Now as you said that I remember that thingy with another device. Maybe a Xiaomi I think... With that I had to wait several days until the unlock code was delivered.
But there was a message, too, when trying to get it sooner, which said you needed to wait some more time.
Not sure if it's the the same for Moto devices? Then again, when thinking that you experienced the same with a Pixel, too...
Did anyone else make such an experience with his/her g100?
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Make sure your on the latest OTA, Lenovo made a mistake on previous versions with the OEM Unlocking function not being enabled. They fixed it in latest ota.
RSA tool said the file I uploaded yesterday is the latest one available (and it's exactly the same as the installed version).
The device was released just a few days ago in Europe. Perhaps they fixed the unlock switch in other regions and still need to fix it in Europe..
Will wait until weekend if they come up with a solution. If not I'm afraid I have to return the device as I need it personally AND professionally, too - I'm field agent, so.... :/
HopelesRomantc91 said:
I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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The poor guy whose phone turned bricks went to the after-sales department of moto, and the answer was that he needed to replace the phone motherboard. .
kimker said:
The poor guy whose phone turned bricks went to the after-sales department of moto, and the answer was that he needed to replace the phone motherboard. .
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Ouch...
kimker said:
I'm curious,If you unlock and flash other firmware and then flash back to the original firmware, can it be locked again?
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I would assume so, but I don't really know why anyone would want to relock.