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Hardware the same?

Besides the software programming are all HTC M8s the same? I've unlocked mine and soff wanted to flash a GSM ROM to convert it, would it be a true GSM phone? I'm just asking cause I believe the phone has a programmable radio and isn't locked into only CDMA but could be wrong. Thank you.

BlackKnight23 said:
Besides the software programming are all HTC M8s the same? I've unlocked mine and soff wanted to flash a GSM ROM to convert it, would it be a true GSM phone? I'm just asking cause I believe the phone has a programmable radio and isn't locked into only CDMA but could be wrong. Thank you.
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I have wondered the same, but I imagine the verizon m8 and the sprint m8 are the same hardware wise, and I think if you removed the cdma components then they may be the same as the at&t & tmobile versions. I seriously think like you it is the software that makes the carrier version, but the cdma part for verizon and sprint could be added hardware.
Overall I think the verizon and sprint versions could be completely carrier changed to at&t or tmobile.
There are guides on xda that tell how to unlock the other bands of gsm some report success and many report no success. Most of the posts are for people wanting to convert the verizon m8 to tmobile. A good amount report success but they say they have to toggle airplane mode quite a bit to force Lte connection.
I have seen a lot say when installing a rom such as viperone they chose to install it as the tmobile version and they report this helps.
Many keep asking can they flash the tmobile firmware to their verizon m8 and no one seems to know probably because their is a good possibility they will brick their verizon m8, so no one seems to be willing to chance it with good reason.
I think this subject is actually losing interest with devs because of the m9 due out in weeks, so honestly I would not expect to see anything done on this for the m8 unless its working on the m9 that they crack how to do it and find out it applies to the m8 in the process.
I really wanted to do this myself because I wanted to convert to a dev edition and get updates direct from htc and get to ditch all verizon software completely which would have been awesome

M9guy said:
I have wondered the same, but I imagine the verizon m8 and the sprint m8 are the same hardware wise, and I think if you removed the cdma components then they may be the same as the at&t & tmobile versions. I seriously think like you it is the software that makes the carrier version, but the cdma part for verizon and sprint could be added hardware.
Overall I think the verizon and sprint versions could be completely carrier changed to at&t or tmobile.
There are guides on xda that tell how to unlock the other bands of gsm some report success and many report no success. Most of the posts are for people wanting to convert the verizon m8 to tmobile. A good amount report success but they say they have to toggle airplane mode quite a bit to force Lte connection.
I have seen a lot say when installing a rom such as viperone they chose to install it as the tmobile version and they report this helps.
Many keep asking can they flash the tmobile firmware to their verizon m8 and no one seems to know probably because their is a good possibility they will brick their verizon m8, so no one seems to be willing to chance it with good reason.
I think this subject is actually losing interest with devs because of the m9 due out in weeks, so honestly I would not expect to see anything done on this for the m8 unless its working on the m9 that they crack how to do it and find out it applies to the m8 in the process.
I really wanted to do this myself because I wanted to convert to a dev edition and get updates direct from htc and get to ditch all verizon software completely which would have been awesome
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Well I have phone insurance and extended warranty so I don't care if I brick mine, I have been working on converting it to a GPE regardless. I'll let you know the outcome. Im looking forward to the M9 as well. I am still planning on keeping my droid turbo.

BlackKnight23 said:
Well I have phone insurance and extended warranty so I don't care if I brick mine, I have been working on converting it to a GPE regardless. I'll let you know the outcome. Im looking forward to the M9 as well. I am still planning on keeping my droid turbo.
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There are differences - in the the partition layout in the NANDs, so it's kind of risky to try it out. Every ROM, RUU, OTA, Firmware, Radio etc. you install have instructions for writing in particular partitions. And they are a lot, i've seen devices with 78 partitions. So that is the big stop i believe. As far as i know there's no other differences, i mean it's easier for HTC to differentiate the phones by making 3,4 or 5 versions with partition layout needed for carrier specs, than producing 5 or more SOCs. Hardware manufacturing is a costly process. So long story short 99,95% chance of brick.

i know that the board with the charging port on it is different for the Verizon version. i broke mine and it seems like all the part suppliers only have the gsm/sprint version. they all have the part labled with the H/K model number.

So what happened?

xsteven77x said:
So what happened?
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If your asking if i was able to get it repaired yet? The answer is no. I've still been unable to get a source for the part. everyone only has the one with only one antenna connection on it. Now the question i have is what dose that 2nd antenna do.

[Q]Does anyone know which variant is or is going to be the most mod-friendly?

I'm coming from a LG G3 were the mods were in overwhelming favor and support for the T-mobile version.
Just want to know if the carrier is going to matter if I'm someone interested in trying out roms

T-mobile usually don't lock down the bootloader. AT&T and Version both will be so locked down it will be months if at all before their variants will be mod-able.

Talking about US models? Sprint and T-Mobile bc they don't lock the bootloaders.

What would you personally prefer over T-mobile or Sprint?
Edit: I think its safe to asume that you prefer Sprint

Chocolina said:
What would you personally prefer over T-mobile or Sprint?
Edit: I think its safe to asume that you prefer Sprint
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I'm on a family plan, so it's not what I prefer, it's my parents haha. Sprint coverage sucks, BUT they're customer service is good, plus they don't lock the bootloaders. I've had Sprint since it was Nextel lol (15+yrs).

Related question, if I have a Verizon plan, can I buy a Sprint S6, easily unlock the sim-restriction (if there is one) and use my verizon SIM card?

With this chip it will be hard pressed for any to really be mod friendly

zelendel said:
With this chip it will be hard pressed for any to really be mod friendly
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Didn't matter in the end. Sprint and Tmo wouldnt let me buy full-retail price of the phone without a plan

My only wish is that the S6 gets multirom (I don't know the reason why S5 didn't get it). It's a lifesaver.
Xposed will eventually be available, and root enables a number of other tweaks... but multirom. That's where I put my "prayers".

edurjbr said:
My only wish is that the S6 gets multirom (I don't know the reason why S5 didn't get it). It's a lifesaver.
Xposed will eventually be available, and root enables a number of other tweaks... but multirom. That's where I put my "prayers".
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Depending on the model is depending on if the bootloader will get unlocked. Without that multirom is not an option.

zelendel said:
Depending on the model is depending on if the bootloader will get unlocked. Without that multirom is not an option.
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Well... T-Mobile and Sprint vs come with unlocked bootloaders, right? And I believe the international vs will come the same way... that's how some people already got root in their S6, right?
With that, the first thing needed is a custom recovery and the patched kernel... that's where it might get tricky, for the exynos processor. If I'm not jumping to conclusions.

Does anyone know about the Canadian versions and their bootloaders?

edurjbr said:
Well... T-Mobile and Sprint vs come with unlocked bootloaders, right? And I believe the international vs will come the same way... that's how some people already got root in their S6, right?
With that, the first thing needed is a custom recovery and the patched kernel... that's where it might get tricky, for the exynos processor. If I'm not jumping to conclusions.
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Sometimes they do yes but no promises. It really all depends. As for recovery that will be up to the very few that still work on this chipset. Many of the bigger developers have walked away from Samsung because of their lies about this chip and the issues it causes with anything but touch wiz roms.

I bought the S8+ from Walmart the Straight Talk version, is it bad? it was $100 less

I pre-ordered the S8+ from walmart Straight talk version. It was $100 less compared to all other places. I am wondering if I made a bad choice. is straight talk GSM?

the phone probably locked to straight talk. what calling plan are you going to get?

netnerd said:
the phone probably locked to straight talk. what calling plan are you going to get?
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I paid full price, I planning to unlock it somehow, but I am not sure if I will get proper updates for the phone.

raaghul said:
I paid full price, I planning to unlock it somehow, but I am not sure if I will get proper updates for the phone.
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Worried the updates will be like the S7 U version?

Outbreak444 said:
Worried the updates will be like the S7 U version?
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I dont know anything about s7 u version. I just thought about update and relaized that it depends on carrier. I contacted the Straight Talk through live chat. He said they dont update android os but after unlocking I can get updates. They didn't make much sense, so is it true after unlocking I will be able to do all updates?

raaghul said:
I dont know anything about s7 u version. I just thought about update and relaized that it depends on carrier. I contacted the Straight Talk through live chat. He said they dont update android os but after unlocking I can get updates. They didn't make much sense, so is it true after unlocking I will be able to do all updates?
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If the hardware is the same as the rest of the major carriers, like the S7 versions are, then flashing the firmware of other carriers will work if that's what you're going for. No idea if this will work as of yet but by the end of the week I'm sure we'll all know the answer to that. But by the sounds of it, you will need to get your phone carrier unlocked before doing that.

Outbreak444 said:
If the hardware is the same as the rest of the major carriers, like the S7 versions are, then flashing the firmware of other carriers will work if that's what you're going for. No idea if this will work as of yet but by the end of the week I'm sure we'll all know the answer to that. But by the sounds of it, you will need to get your phone carrier unlocked before doing that.
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This is the first time i am coming to galaxy series, I saw the Samsung kies used for updating, so that software updates phone depending on carrier or common for all devices?

raaghul said:
This is the first time i am coming to galaxy series, I saw the Samsung kies used for updating, so that software updates phone depending on carrier or common for all devices?
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Dependent on carrier unless you are able to flash the US unlocked version, then it comes directly from Samsung. But like stated above, we're not exactly sure if that's an option as of yet.

Outbreak444 said:
Dependent on carrier unless you are able to flash the US unlocked version, then it comes directly from Samsung. But like stated above, we're not exactly sure if that's an option as of yet.
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I cancelled my order. Gotta wait for the refund and pre-order again for AT&T model. hope I get the refund before the pre-order ends. Thanks for your help.

raaghul said:
I cancelled my order. Gotta wait for the refund and pre-order again for AT&T model. hope I get the refund before the pre-order ends. Thanks for your help.
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Smart move on your part, I'm seeing a lot of red tape in your future if you didn't

I have the s8+ and can confirm I can take my straight talk sim out and change it with a friends att sim card. Using it now to reply to this message.

Jtreaper said:
I have the s8+ and can confirm I can take my straight talk sim out and change it with a friends att sim card. Using it now to reply to this message.
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are you sure it works for phone calls as well?

Can a GSM SM-N975U work on verizon?

If it's unlocked from T-mobile, can I use it on verizon? If not directly, then is there a safe, verified way to flash the verizon firmware which will make it 100% identical to the verizon version with everything working and future OTAs etc?
Considering getting a used one for a good deal, but I use verizon.
Thanks!

Yes, all the N975U models are the same. You can flash the Verizon firmware if you want, it will turn it into the retail Verizon version of the phone.

finshan said:
If it's unlocked from T-mobile, can I use it on verizon? If not directly, then is there a safe, verified way to flash the verizon firmware which will make it 100% identical to the verizon version with everything working and future OTAs etc?
Considering getting a used one for a good deal, but I use verizon.
Thanks!
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there is no such thing as a GSM Note or S series phone that ends in a U or U1. They are all literally the same as stated in the response before mine. Ever since the S8, all galaxy phones built for the USA market are all the same. Thankfully. That GSM or CDMA version thing they had going on for a while was irritating LOLOL

Flash Canada firmware on US unlocked

So someone is the Fold subreddit said that he was able to flash the Canada firmware on his US unlocked fold and everything works including 5G. Is this true? Are there any downside from doing this? Thanks for any imput.

My understanding is that you need a device that supports the bands your carrier uses, that's all. The U1 has the widest carrier coverage. I have tried to find info on whether you can flash a firmware to get other bands, and perhaps that's what you are asking, but I doubt this.
Which carrier are you on?

waternut13134 said:
So someone is the Fold subreddit said that he was able to flash the Canada firmware on his US unlocked fold and everything works including 5G. Is this true? Are there any downside from doing this? Thanks for any imput.
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Yes it is possible. They are the same device and you can cross flash. But why do you want to?

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Yes it is possible. They are the same device and you can cross flash. But why do you want to?
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Not so much wanting to but was just trying to educate myself if it was possible. The whole discussion was to get the new Android 11 update sooner since unlocked models are the last to get it.

Renae27 said:
My understanding is that you need a device that supports the bands your carrier uses, that's all. The U1 has the widest carrier coverage. I have tried to find info on whether you can flash a firmware to get other bands, and perhaps that's what you are asking, but I doubt this.
Which carrier are you on?
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I am on tmobile. It was a discussion to get android 11 sooner instead of waiting.

waternut13134 said:
So someone is the Fold subreddit said that he was able to flash the Canada firmware on his US unlocked fold and everything works including 5G. Is this true? Are there any downside from doing this? Thanks for any imput.
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I went ahead and did it ...I'm actually loving it! I'm just going to keep the sm-f916w version since it seems to get the faster updates and also as a plus I can see less samsung spam ads for some reason. I could be wrong but my samsung pay no longer displays ads all over the place as it has a more clean look. I dont get multiple notifications about turning on my phone finder offline or whatever as the US version did. That was driving me nuts!

I flashed it to my Tmobile U model yesterday which i had U1 on. Works fine.