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HTC Audio Manager - Playlist sort solution found

I have found a (fairly) simple solution for how to have a playlist in the HTC Audio Manager that is sorted by something besides alphabetical order. It's really more of a workaround, but at least it's something.
As you probably know if you're reading this, when you use the HTC Audio Manager and go to create a playlist, all of the songs are presented in alphabetical order with no way to sort them any other way. The names given are short enough that you may not even be able to differentiate songs if they have similar names. E.g. on Pink Floyd's The Wall, you have 3 songs called Another Brick In The Wall. The HTCAM doesn't given you enough name to differentiate them just by looking.
Anyways, if you want to have a playlist sorted by name you either have to look at the album and select the songs in order, rather a PITA; OR you can open up Media Player on your device. Queue up the songs you want into a playlist there and then save it. HTC Audio Manager has the ability to open audio playlists and will search your playlist folder by default. When you go back into the Audio Manager you should see the playlist you created in WMP if you go to Playlists. It will have a Windows Media Player icon next to it and you won't be able to change the playlist, but at least everything will be in order. If you use WMP on your PC to sync music to your phone, you can create the playlists there as well and they should carry over. Although I'm not certain on this since I've got a couple of WMP playlists that didn't carry over. But those were there before I flashed the ROM and might possibly not be saved in the correct location for the Audio Manager to pick them up.
I know it's may not the most elegant solution and certainly not as good as native support, but it is something that really bothered a lot of people. I know that for me it was a deal breaker but I can tolerate this workaround.

can anyone confirm the ability to create playlists on the PC and move them to the phone? I have yet to be able to do this.

Something that really grates me about AudioManager is the ability to piss me off by adding ringtones stored in my storage card to the library. If anyone knows who to add exceptions to certain folders it would be really awesome

Playlist transfer from PC
After pulling half my hair out, I decided ot do this right, and found the way to transfer a playlist with appropriate sorting from Windows to my HTC Touch Pro Audio Manager.
The clue appears to make sure that all references in the playlist are relative to the location of the playlist. I.e. you must store the playlist on the same location as the files. To get this to work I had to work with the TouchPro as a disk drive - which assigns a drive letter and makes things work better in Windows Media Player.
a) Open WMP on the PC
b) Enter “Library”
c) Make a new (empty) playlist
d) Make sure the playlist pane is open on the right
e) Connect HTC as diskdrive
f) Search for all music on the drive in Windows Explorer
g) Select all music found
h) Right click and add to Windows Media Player playlist
i) In WMP – save playlist as
Filename: “Any_name.asx”
Remember to choose file type wpl, m3u, asx to get the format right
Export to the device to get the path right
Steps a-d+i in Windows Media Player (WMP) - e is chosen on the device and f-h in Windows explorer.
My use was to have my playlist shuffled while avoiding repeats - and that could be handled in WMP, but you could also choose the sequence manually or make any other sorting.
Note: some sources of error are: Saving the playlist on the PC will cause references to E:\Music\Song.wma (or whatever) which is likely to be different from the reference internally on the device (\Storage\Music\Song.wma or such).
I hope this helps - if nothing else; I feel a little better to have contributed in return for all the great advice found on the site.
I also investigated playlists created with Playlist Manager on the TouchPro, and to me it appeared that some had a conflicting structure, and would not read in HTC Audio Manager. I suspected the sequence of Title and other headings, but didn't investigate fully.
Regards, Anders

andbb said:
After pulling half my hair out, I decided ot do this right, and found the way to transfer a playlist with appropriate sorting from Windows to my HTC Touch Pro Audio Manager.
The clue appears to make sure that all references in the playlist are relative to the location of the playlist. I.e. you must store the playlist on the same location as the files. To get this to work I had to work with the TouchPro as a disk drive - which assigns a drive letter and makes things work better in Windows Media Player.
a) Open WMP on the PC
b) Enter “Library”
c) Make a new (empty) playlist
d) Make sure the playlist pane is open on the right
e) Connect HTC as diskdrive
f) Search for all music on the drive in Windows Explorer
g) Select all music found
h) Right click and add to Windows Media Player playlist
i) In WMP – save playlist as
Filename: “Any_name.asx”
Remember to choose file type wpl, m3u, asx to get the format right
Export to the device to get the path right
Steps a-d+i in Windows Media Player (WMP) - e is chosen on the device and f-h in Windows explorer.
My use was to have my playlist shuffled while avoiding repeats - and that could be handled in WMP, but you could also choose the sequence manually or make any other sorting.
Note: some sources of error are: Saving the playlist on the PC will cause references to E:\Music\Song.wma (or whatever) which is likely to be different from the reference internally on the device (\Storage\Music\Song.wma or such).
I hope this helps - if nothing else; I feel a little better to have contributed in return for all the great advice found on the site.
I also investigated playlists created with Playlist Manager on the TouchPro, and to me it appeared that some had a conflicting structure, and would not read in HTC Audio Manager. I suspected the sequence of Title and other headings, but didn't investigate fully.
Regards, Anders
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Will your method copy all actual music files in PC to device or it will sync only playlist file? Do playlist files itself - without actual music files - useful for copying to device or backuping?

How to delete some music files form Music Library ?

My HD2 just searches all storage card for any music files and puts them into library.
Some of them are ringtones and other useless stuff. So I don't want them to be in my music library
Is there a way to choose folder where audio manager should search ?

I'm not sure why your library is showing ringtones. None of mine ever end up in the library.

I had Fring and Talkonout installed on storage card. I both have mp3 files for ringtones.
I deleted them both from storage card and files disappeared but that is not a solution :/
Is there a way to choose music folder ?

marcio123 said:
I had Fring and Talkonout installed on storage card. I both have mp3 files for ringtones.
I deleted them both from storage card and files disappeared but that is not a solution :/
Is there a way to choose music folder ?
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i got the same problem. all music files show in my music library when i pressed update library. +1 on how to choose music folder and disregard the rest.

mine does the same. My HD2 came preinstalled with Who Wants to Be a Millionaire game. The manila audio manager displays all the acc music files that came preinstalled... what a pain....

you can make HTC album to ignore some folders. Do the following:
Go to HKLM/Software/HTC/HTCAlbum/Ignore
and add a sting value with a name (choose whatever you want) and string (here you put the location of a particular folder)
So if I want HTC album to ignore My Music folder on my Storage card, I will add a new string value: name-My Music and string-\Storage Card\My Music
hope this helps

ah forgot to mention soft reset after that

Am I doing something wrong? I did a soft reset and still no exclusion from the folders I specified here:

Ignore not Ignored

Oh, should I rename that folder to ignore? Because my HD2's registry came like that with that folder called ingnored.
Maybe the TMOUS HD2 has the d added? Not sure why they would have done that.

marcio123 said:
My HD2 just searches all storage card for any music files and puts them into library.
Some of them are ringtones and other useless stuff. So I don't want them to be in my music library
Is there a way to choose folder where audio manager should search ?
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Tap Library - Playlist - New playlist (for example playlist 1)
Tap playlist 1 - Add songs - All songs (on bottom of screen) - select all songs you need - Done
Tap 1 song in playlist 1. Music player will play that song and library will update to playlist 1.
I'm sorry about my English, I'm Vietnamese.

Good English! I understood great.
But, I did what you said about adding a playlist & adding songs and it seemed to work great, but then later I went back to play the playlist & nothing played at all. It is strange that this default player doesn't work anymore since I tried the playlist trick. In fact, when I try to find anything to play, the "Music Tab" just hangs and never populates with MP3s at all. I think I bricked my Music Tab of my HD2 (I don't know if I said that right but it sounded good ). Well, at least I didn't brick the entire phone! Now I am forced to use Windows Media Player for all music, which I don't mind at all, but it was nice to use the other player while on the road.
I may end up trying what they say here:
ruscik said:
Well a lot of people noticed a problem with HTC Music tab. Library shows not only music but ring tones and other sounds. One way to stop it is to hide offending folders. One problem with that is if you hide for example ring tone folder you can not select your ring tones as they are hidden as well.
What I did is as goes. I have music on SD card, also there is tomtom, copilot and some other apps. I have hidden all of the apps that might have sounds so they do not show up in library. Obviously left folder with music not hidden.
That will take care of SD card.
For My Device sounds do steps below:
1. Start from removing your card and then going to music tab so it rescans and states no music found. (Skip to step 3 if you are starting from clean rom)
2. Go to registry editor of your choice and navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng (for german it will be AudioManager_Ger)\Information
Delete all items in that folder. You will not be able to delete Information it self.
If you are on clean rom you will not even have that folder it is created 1st time when music tab finds music.
3. Navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config
In there change:
"device_scan_path_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
"device_scan_path_path_0" from what ever there is to \Windows
"ring_tone_path" from what ever there is to \Windows
What this will do is exclude all files in windows folder. If you have any files in my documents they will show up. I assume if you just put "\" instead of "\Windows" it will exclude entire my device but did not test it.
4. Soft reset, insert your SD card and enjoy.
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I didn't want to do it that way, but it looks as if I may have to. I liked the first way better (...HTCAlbum > Ignored...)
(I removed "Music" from my Home Screen Tabs as there was no reason to have it there anymore)

I just create playlist and do nothing else. I needn't edit registry.

[Q] Help: How to make a playlist in Zune

Hi,
Can someone help. I don't get how to make a playlist in Zune.
And what is the purpose of "make a selection" ? it does not work.

The way that I've been doing it is this. I play a Song that I want. Once its playing, I go through zune and press hold the song's or artists and select add to current playlist. Once I have the playlist set, I press on the now playing from music history screen. From there you can press more options and then select save playlist.
This is how I create playlists. Still haven't figured out how to edit playlists though

makman25 said:
The way that I've been doing it is this. I play a Song that I want. Once its playing, I go through zune and press hold the song's or artists and select add to current playlist. Once I have the playlist set, I press on the now playing from music history screen. From there you can press more options and then select save playlist.
This is how I create playlists. Still haven't figured out how to edit playlists though
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Many thanks.
Can please someone help?
I still do not understand how I am supposed to create playlists on my WP7 phone...

makman25 said:
The way that I've been doing it is this. I play a Song that I want. Once its playing, I go through zune and press hold the song's or artists and select add to current playlist. Once I have the playlist set, I press on the now playing from music history screen. From there you can press more options and then select save playlist.
This is how I create playlists. Still haven't figured out how to edit playlists though
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It does not work. As soon as I want to save a song in my Selection, I am asked to give a name to my Selection ???!
Then if I check this playlist I wil have 562 tracks that are not mine and that I did not selected. What the hell !!!
And it sems that there is no Shuffle function. How to play he playlist tracks randomly?
How is it so complicated?

Zune does not even find my photos and music on pc.Just bought a titan. My hd2
was easier.

[Q] [QUESTION]How do I manage Playlists in Mango - create - edit - change order

So, on my LG Quantum, I was trying to create a new playlist from my existing mp3 files. When I do this, it creates a playlist with everysong.
So what's the point of creating a playlist if it has everysong?
Also, I am not seeing anyway to adjust the order of a playlist.
When I shuffle, it switches from playing a playlist, to playing all music.
Maybe it's as simple as clearing the music that is considered now playing. But, I am not seeing where that is displayed.
Starting up Music, the first screen says
Zune, with items (music, videos, podcasts, radio, marketplace)
The next screen says Histroy with tiles of songs and playlists.
The only menu options are play music and search marketplace.
The next screen says new with tiles of songs and playlists.
Again, the only menu options are play music and search marketplace.
The next screen says apps.
It lists MSN Money Stocks, and YouTube and YouTube again.
The only menu is search marketplace.
The next option takes me back to zune.
Since I want to create a playlist, I select music.
I can play an album and create a playlist from it.
If I play a song and create a playlist, it puts every song on my device in the playlist.
If like an album, but don't necessarily want all the songs of it in a particular playlists, I see no way to remove a song from a playlist, or create a playlist without the one song.
Anyone know how to create a playlist. Then add just the songs that you want to the list. Then shuffle the playlist. Then later remove and add songs to the playlist.
If there is an app that accomplishes this, I am fine purchasing it. I am just a little shocked that this is not built in or easier to figure out.

After going here: http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions
And reading all requests for playlist, the feature just is not implemented well.
There is not a good way to create new playlists.
Only thing I can think will sort of work is to create a playlist on your computer with 1 song that you like or just a 1 second or shorter song of just silience.
Sync that your device. Now you can play the playlist. Then add songs to the now playing. then create a new playlist from that.
It's a lame work around and it won't get around the fact that you can't remove a song from a playlist.

[Q] playlists on the gear 2 music player

Is there anyway that anybody has figured out to make a playlist on the gear 2 music player? I use my gear alot at the gym and connect it to my bluetooth headphones but all the music I sent to the my gear is just one big alphabetical playlist. Is there any way to either make a playlist on the gear or even reorder the songs the way I want as opposed to alphabetical order because that sucks bad. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance

I was wondering the same.
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When you're in the music player, press the top right icon to get to the now playing list and then press top right again you'll get a list of tracks on the watch, you can scroll to playlists, albums, artists and folders here so it definitely supports playlists to some degree but there's only 4 default playlists of recently played, recently added, most played and favourites. You can add tracks to favourites by holding down on them in the tracks list and selecting "add to favourites" so it seems you can use favourites to create one single playlist but you can't set an order as far as I can see so the tracks will still order themselves alphabetically by artist.
If you hook it up to the computer there is a playlists folder but it doesn't seem to do anything. I've copied m3u and pla playlists into both the music and playlists folder to no joy. You can create new folders within music and use the folders menu on the watch I suppose but that's gonna put them in alphabetical order so I guess the only way to make a playlist on the watch work in anything but alphabetical at the moment would be to edit the id3 tags of your mp3s to make them all appear to be on the same album. The existance of a playlist menu and playlist folders is a good sign though I assume.

Thanks dominoid I do indeed appreciate the help. It may not indeed fix our problem totally but its a great start maybe in a future update they will fix this. In the mean time at very least I can make a favorites playlist just for thr gym until someone figures out another way. Needless to say thanks for info on the favorites playlist I was unaware of it :good: edit......However I did figure out after playing around with it that when you put songs in your favorites playlist it doesn't put them in alphabetical order it puts them in the order you put them in the playlist meaning the first song you put in there will be last in the playlist and the very last song you put in the playlist will now be first. So although it may be tedious and time consuming it technically is possible to put one playlist in the order you like.....better than nothing I suppose.....thanks again for your help