Hi guys,
I’ve seen that even if I have disabled Samsung Healt from closing after screen lock it is constantly stopped by the system, so it lost the sync with other services and the steps counter is stopped.
(This is not the only app where this happen)
Do anybody have an idea about that?
Allow the app in lock screen cleanup of phone manager
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Most of you will be aware that a new "app optimization" feature was added to a recent 5.1.1 based firmware update.
I've been trying to research exactly what this does because Samsung have not updated their user manual (you can access this via the user manual widget) to cover this new feature. After searching online, I've come to the conclusion that I'm not the only one who isn't sure what this feature does and there's a lot of incorrect information out there.
Below is some examples of what I've read:
It's Samsung's implementation of doze - I think this is incorrect as doze is a system wide state that uses sensors and screen off information.
Someone on AC forums was told by a Samsung employee that for example, it will make taxing games black and white so they don't require so much processing power - I really don't think this is the case.
It's Samsung's implementation of app standby - I think this is the most likely.
Does anyone have any concrete evidence as to what this setting actually does?
Furthermore, I've noticed that the "app optimization" implementation will change depending on if you have Smart Manager enabled or disabled. Not only that, but the battery sub menu layout (settings > battery) is also different depending on Smart Manager running or not. Has anyone else noticed this?
From what I can gather, the "app optimization" feature is there regardless if Smart Manager is enabled or disabled, but you can only manually select wether an app is optimised or not. Smart Manager appears to only provide automation of the process by monitoring which apps have not been used for x number of days and then changing the optimisation setting for each app for you.
Based on your screenshots, system apps can now be optimized by default?
Tricks25 said:
Based on your screenshots, system apps can now be optimized by default?
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Second screen is the 'Optimization Screen' under Setttings > Battery > Battery Usage > Battery Optimization. First one is from the 5.1.1 update, and the second is only present in Marshmallow Beta.
I don't think it's exactly an App Standby, as this keeps the apps 'unoptimized' if they have background services. Samsung's optimization only takes days since last usage for determining if an app should be optimized. Also, I think Samsung's optimization is more aggressive, like Greenify, an it shuts down apps shortly after user lefts them.
Oh, and it seems that you can't explicitly turn App Standby for an app, like you can do it with the Samsung alternative. Putting an app on/off on App Standby only activates App Standby for that app (If conditions are met) or disables it completely.
bregan90 said:
Second screen is the 'Optimization Screen' under Setttings > Battery > Battery Usage > Battery Optimization. First one is from the 5.1.1 update, and the second is only present in Marshmallow Beta.
I don't think it's exactly an App Standby, as this keeps the apps 'unoptimized' if they have background services. Samsung's optimization only takes days since last usage for determining if an app should be optimized. Also, I think Samsung's optimization is more aggressive, like Greenify, an it shuts down apps shortly after user lefts them.
Oh, and it seems that you can't explicitly turn App Standby for an app, like you can do it with the Samsung alternative. Putting an app on/off on App Standby only activates App Standby for that app (If conditions are met) or disables it completely.
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You're not quite correct on the screen shot front. All screenshots were taken from Android 6.0, the reason they're different is one was taken with Smart Manager running and the other was taken with Smart Manager disabled via Package Disabler.
What it does is that after an app has not been started for 3 days (this is configrable), it freezes (disables) it.
This is really problematic for small apps acting as unlocker of a main app and not supposed to be launched by user, as it prevents the main app to communicate with the unlocker app (bindServices() fails), preventing license verification to work.
This cancer acting in the back of apps used to only be possible on root devices, but Samsung generalized to mainstream devices.
Hey all
Back on the team android after two years on the dark side aka apple
Anyway, I Have an app greenify that Android keeps turning the accessibility off after a screen lock, I have whiteisted the app, gave it ignore optimisation permission and I have no app kill or app cleaner running, but it still disables after screen lock, any ideas?
Being quite a tech geek and Android geek I usually always solve my Android problems on my own but this one is really puzzling me.
I recently got a Galaxy A40 and realized that my eyes react very badly to the PWM emitted by this amoled screen. The only option if you're unrooted to fix PWM is this app I found on the store called "Oled Saver", it's a screen filter app.
The problem with this app is the mix of permissions it asks and I'm afraid it might record my screen and send it to the developer. "FULL INTERNET ACCESS" "ALLOW MODIFY SYSTEM SETTINGS" and it created a new section in the accessibility menu that I had to enable in order to run the app with no description of it (I guess that's the permission it need to draw over the screen). It also needs storage write access among others.
Once the screen filter starts a background process of around 80mb is created.
What I've done is I've disabled background data usage for this app and constantly check the cache create by the app and it's been at 119kb for a few days so I guess it's not storing my screen recordings. And the data used by the app has always been zero, background and foreground.
But all those internet related permissions must be there for a reason since the app has no ads.
Expert question now: Could it be that the app is not sending data but the background process it created actually is? May it be that the restrictions of background data usage apply only the "the app" and NOT to the process it created?
Please help guys if my screen is recorded I could be hacked from head to toe and witout this app I can't look at the display.
This post was originally posted in Moto G5s Plus forum, but I thought/hope to get broader exposure and feedbacks:
I did extensive search and found no fix so far.
Problem: if my phone is locked for maybe 10min, then it will not display notification for incoming Signal, Whatsapp and Google Voice messages, until I unlock the screen and run the apps. In other words, I will not get notified of new messages if the phone is locked for over 10 minutes.
Native Messenger app is not affected, it displays incoming message right away. Gmail is good too.
I do not use Wifi, it is turned OFF. I am on Data 100% with T-Mobile. Stock ROM, rooted with Magisk and TWRP.
I have done "Battery Not Optimized", "unrestricted data", Battery saving mode is set Never, and there is no battery saving apps installed such as Greenify etc.
I have removed and reinstalled these apps from Play store, cleared data and cache, the whole 9 yards.
Still stuck with delayed notification.
Anyone with suggestions?
Thanks,
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This post was originally posted in Moto G5s Plus forum, but I thought/hope to get broader exposure and feedbacks:
I did extensive search and found no fix so far.
Problem: if my phone is locked for maybe 10min, then it will not display notification for incoming Signal, Whatsapp and Google Voice messages, until I unlock the screen and run the apps. In other words, I will not get notified of new messages if the phone is locked for over 10 minutes.
Native Messenger app is not affected, it displays incoming message right away. Gmail is good too.
I do not use Wifi, it is turned OFF. I am on Data 100% with T-Mobile. Stock ROM, rooted with Magisk and TWRP.
I have done "Battery Not Optimized", "unrestricted data", Battery saving mode is set Never, and there is no battery saving apps installed such as Greenify etc.
I have removed and reinstalled these apps from Play store, cleared data and cache, the whole 9 yards.
Still stuck with delayed notification.
Anyone with suggestions?
Thanks,
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It's probably caused by a wakelock that triggers after the screen is off for a set amount of time. Or maybe your device has a deep sleep mode that is triggered after a certain time with screen off.
Use Wakelock detector to identify the wakelocks on your device, then research the wakelocks that you find to see if any of them might be the cause of this issue. If you find a wakelock that is causing this, try using an app that can manage wakelocks to enable/disable the wakelock(s) as needed in order to get it working the way you want/need.
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Hi all,
I have a Pixel 4a with stock Android 11 (up to date, no root, with Nova Launcher).
I have a rowing machine that comes with an app (ErgData, by concept2) that can connect to the machine via bluetooth or via usb cable: while rowing the app logs the workout data (like pace, heart rate etc).
I wanted to do the following: watch a video while the ErgData app logs my workout, so I started ErgData, connected it to the rower, configured the workout and, once ready to start rowing, I switch to the video player and start rowing.
It worked fine a bunch of times, but one day it stopped working: at the end of the workout (like after 20-30min), when I switch back to ErgData the app is in its default screen (like the one you get at startup) and it has logged nothing. When connecting via bluetooth, the app has also lost the connection to the rower. When connecting via usb the connection is there but the app has still logged nothing.
Things I've done:
disable battery optimization for ErgData, Bluetooth and Bluetooth MIDI
disable adaptive battery
use a different media player (android built-in, VLC)
uninstall / reinstall ErgData
clear Bluetooth storage/cache
disabled "Suspend Execution for Cached App" (developer mode)
No joy.
I tried a different app (ErgZone) and it has the same behavior.
I tried staying with ErgZone foreground for 3min before switching to the video player and in that case, ErgZone logged something, but not the totality of the workout.
So it really seems that somehow, when I switch to the video player, ErgData / ErgZone gets "paused" (killed ? cached ?).
Anything I can try ? Anything the app developers should do to prevent this ?
Thanks !
Sorry for the late response, I normally dont browse this forum. I am rooted and always have been, so all the solution I have used in the past are dependent on root. However, one idea to try is checking if the background app is killed while the phone is plugged into a charger? I know that being plugged in keeps the phone awake even when the screen is off.
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So it really seems that somehow, when I switch to the video player, ErgData / ErgZone gets "paused" (killed ? cached ?).
Anything I can try ? Anything the app developers should do to prevent this ?
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Does the ErgData/Zone app start a persistent notification when recording? That's the way to keep a service running in the background. I had a phone with a tendency to kill anything not in the foreground, but it never killed active apps (including background with persistent notification).
If the app dies despite this, there may be a hint in the logcat. You have to enable developer mode to fetch that.
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Does the ErgData/Zone app start a persistent notification when recording? That's the way to keep a service running in the background. I had a phone with a tendency to kill anything not in the foreground, but it never killed active apps (including background with persistent notification).
If the app dies despite this, there may be a hint in the logcat. You have to enable developer mode to fetch that.
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No, ErgData/ErgZone do not have a persistent notification. Guess that's a potential solution then.
At the moment my workaround is to use the "pop-up" feature of VLC so that I have the video on top of the other app (ErgData/ErgZone), so that the other app stays foreground. That works, but it's not a real solution.
Hmm they gave me a beta version of the app with the persistent notification thingy and it works perfectly.