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Mate 7 Pros
Premium build
Superior battery
Better screen to body ratio
Thinner
OnePlus Pros
Price
Value
Compatibility with more carriers
ROM development
Our personal opinion, using 10/10 scale. Mate 7 vs. OnePlus One:
Build quality: 9 vs. 7
Screen: 8 vs. 7
Battery: 10 vs. 8
Security: 9.5 vs. 7
Default UI: 9 vs. 7
Customize ROM: 6 vs. 9.5
Life ROM: 7 vs. 9
Carrier/SIM support: 9 vs. 8
Signal strength: 9 vs. 8
Graphics: 8 vs. 8
CPU: 9 vs. 8
Camera: 8 vs. 8
Design: 9 vs. 7
Price: 9 vs. 8
Overall: 119.5(/140) vs. 109.5(/140) or 85% vs. 78%
See I'm not the only one comparing these two phones, great minds..
For audio, what I'd really like to know:
Is there any physical difference between the audio used in the Mate 2 vs Mate 7?
One thing that I liked with the M2 was that the headphones could be powered (if not overpowered) by the chipset without an external amp (and little distortion), most phones these days miss this entirely.
For me audio quality will be the final determining factor, does the AM7 use the same or better (than Mate 2) chipset in device?
Still 50/50. The thing that let's the OnePlus One down is the lack of MicroSD.
@volcolm if you have a good headsets, the Mate 7's audio quality is awesome. In China, there is even a special Chinese software that can fully release the DTS power of Mate 7.
Getmobilephone, do you think it would work well with a Xiaomi Piston Headset. Those are awesome, I have a set.
I say the mate 7's extra helft is well worth the amazing battery life and bigger screen. I had to let go of my OnePlus One because I only had the 16gb version and that was simply not enough.
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@volcolm if you have a good headsets, the Mate 7's audio quality is awesome. In China, there is even a special Chinese software that can fully release the DTS power of Mate 7.
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Audio quality is great using a very good AKG headset Is this special chinese DTS software preinstalled? If not, where i can download it?
What is about the dual system beta test?
I'll throw in an update since I was quoted twice (please don't quote this as it is slightly offtopic): Since relegated a decision to Huawei Nexus 6P or LG G5 ... The Mate 7 isn't easily as obtainable for me and would actually be too expensive compared to either, due having to import it (it doesn't make financial or hardware sense to me); but a Nexus device would be awesome because Huawei does a good job with hardware, not to mention XDA is awesome for releasing stable kernels; but on the other side, LG's ''friends'' attachments are appealing too (they're currently teasing more attachments for it on Facebook), am certain that XDA would work in either's favour here.
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I'll throw in an update since I was quoted twice (please don't quote this as it is slightly offtopic): Since relegated a decision to Huawei Nexus 6P or LG G5 ... The Mate 7 isn't easily as obtainable for me and would actually be too expensive compared to either, due having to import it (it doesn't make financial or hardware sense to me); but a Nexus device would be awesome because Huawei does a good job with hardware, not to mention XDA is awesome for releasing stable kernels; but on the other side, LG's ''friends'' attachments are appealing too (they're currently teasing more attachments for it on Facebook), am certain that XDA would work in either's favour here.
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Comparing the Mate 7 to any of the devices you mentioned is pointless, and if you actually consider importing one... Well that's laughable. I really despise Huawei's software and lack off support. Go for the 6P, however the G5 does also look pretty sexy.
Plus, the Mate 7 was announced in 2014, meaning it is nearly two years old at this stage. Considering it above the current, top-of-the-line flagships is a little silly.
Take the advice from someone using a Mate 7 and stay far, far away. Like you said, Huawei does a fantastic job hardware wise, it really is great (bar the camera, which is mediocre at best), but what really kills the entire experience to me is the bastardized Android. If you have the money to buy a current flagship don't buy the mate 7.
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Comparing the Mate 7 to any of the devices you mentioned is pointless, and if you actually consider importing one... Well that's laughable. I really despise Huawei's software and lack off support. Go for the 6P, however the G5 does also look pretty sexy.
Plus, the Mate 7 was announced in 2014, meaning it is nearly two years old at this stage. Considering it above the current, top-of-the-line flagships is a little silly.
Take the advice from someone using a Mate 7 and stay far, far away. Like you said, Huawei does a fantastic job hardware wise, it really is great (bar the camera, which is mediocre at best), but what really kills the entire experience to me is the bastardized Android. If you have the money to buy a current flagship don't buy the mate 7.
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That wasn't meant as a comparison, and (lol) I meant to use "wasn't" not "isn't" (oops!). Also for some strange reason this notification remains at the top of the "recent notifications" in the control panel, so due to poor eyes I thought this was new, even though, logically, it should be shuffled down instead of being on top.
So that's clarified, please stop bumping this :laugh:
Hello folks,
In 3 weeks i am able extend my phone contract and i will receive a brand new phone with it.
Now i am in a huge dilemma because i can't choose between some phones. I've listed them below and i know they all have pro's and con's.
I am a huge fan of flashing custom ROMs, taking and editing some pictures and videos every now and then, playing games like GTA 5, Hearthstone etc. streaming movies to my Chromecast on my current device which is an HTC One m7.
Personally i am strongly leaning towards the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge, but my question is; which of the phones below would you choose and why?
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
LG G4
ASUS Zenfone 2
Oppo R7
ELEPHONE P7000
Huawei P8
ruubs said:
Hello folks,
In 3 weeks i am able extend my phone contract and i will receive a brand new phone with it.
Now i am in a huge dilemma because i can't choose between some phones. I've listed them below and i know they all have pro's and con's.
I am a huge fan of flashing custom ROMs, taking and editing some pictures and videos every now and then, playing games like GTA 5, Hearthstone etc. streaming movies to my Chromecast on my current device which is an HTC One m7.
Personally i am strongly leaning towards the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge, but my question is; which of the phones below would you choose and why?
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
LG G4
ASUS Zenfone 2
Oppo R7
ELEPHONE P7000
Huawei P8
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I got the chance to play around with the GALAXY S6 Edge personally and I think it was a fabulous phone
I have the Note 4, but if I didn't have a phone i'd go for the S6 edge.
Despite the curved screen I was able to hold it in my hands very comfortably, and the edges sort of brought a "wide" viewing experience. (Not to mention it just feels very unique as if you are not limited by 4 bezel edges).
The speed, sounds, and elements of the phone felt great too
The only down side (coming as a Samsung user) for me is the non removable back which was traded in favor of very high quality build material (Glass and aluminum).
I highly recommend it.
I am unsure of other phones.
I know it's hard to get unbiased responses from device specific forums, but I was wondering if anyone has any real world experience with both devices.
I've had the Honor 8 for a little over a week now and overall I am happy with it.
Things I like:
- design
- finger print location, responsiveness, and customized buttons
- battery life
- speaker quality (wasn't expecting much, so it was better than expected)
- EMUI, there are some things I'm not crazy for but there's a few useful features like intensive app notifications and some Huawei apps are solid enough to not delete
- no complaints about overall performance
Now the Axon 7 popped up on sale for a good price and I am thinking maybe I should go that route while I can still exchange the Honor.
The biggest thing keeping me tempted is the Snapdragon 820 vs the Kirin 950. I know the GPU is a bit weaker in the Honor but I wouldn't play any intensive games that would make it a breaking point.
So if anyone can answer any of these I would really appreciate it!
- Size: I never loved huge phones, but a lot of manufactures seem to have made it work. In pictures the Axon 7 doesn't look too much bigger than the H8, and it actually seems a bit more ergonomic to hold.
- Camera: I have an iPhone 7 for a work phone so this device's camera isn't the top priority. But for everyday shots here and there, can anyone tell me their impressions?
- Display quality: 1440p and AMOLED is nice, but doesn't really equate to a better display. The H8's LCD is pretty nice but color accuracy seems to be a bit all over the place. Hoping the Axon does a better job here.
- Speed: this is the biggest thing for me I suppose. How much of a noticeable difference there is (if at all) between the two phones. I imagine multicore scores don't really impact me as much for how I use the phone, but single core efficiency is important. The iPhone 7's speed has definitely impressed me, but still, I don't want to feel like I am going to a much slower device when swapping phones.
Sorry for the long post, just want to make sure I stick with the best bang for the buck. Thanks guys.
I have had the Axon 7 for a few months, and just got the Honor 8 yesterday. So I haven't had much time with the Honor 8, but I'll point out a few things. I have the Spigen rugged armor case on both, so they look very similar because of that.
1). Battery life on both is great IMO.
2). Axon 7 is definitely heavier, but doesn't look that much bigger. It does feel bigger though.
3). Auto brightness on the Honor 8 seems to go dim randomly and then slowly increase to the right brightness again.
4). My first impressions of the Honor 8 camera is that it is noticeably better. Especially in lower light.
5). The display on the Honor 8 is very nice. However IMO the Axon 7 display is excellent and of similar brightness.
6). The Honor 8 is very snappy. Axon 7 is snappier.
7). Axon 7 has double tap to wake. I wish it had double tap to sleep. I love both features, and one is better than none. Honor 8 has neither. I came from an LG V10 that had both.
8). Axon 7 has hardware capacitive keys that are not backlit. Bad choice IMO. Honor 8 has the onscreen buttons that I'm used to. I wish Axon 7 had an option to activate onscreen buttons.
Of course being used to the Axon 7 means that I'm biased with things that are different. When you have notifications on the statusbar at the top, on the Axon 7, it's the application's icon. On the Honor 8, it mixes them up a bit sometimes, for example including the senders picture on a FB messenger notification. IMO that can get confusing. Also, on the Honor 8, they're really small. Not sure why the Axon 7's seem so much larger when the screen is only 0.3" larger diagonally.
The Axon 7's front facing speakers will blow you away if you're used to an iPhone or the Honor 8.
Even though the Axon 7 gets lots of criticism for its software, I still feel it's closer to stock Android than the Honor 8. But when you go to settings, you get this "frequently used" setting tab that you cannot avoid. And it has nothing to do with frequently used - they just put a screenful of setting choices there, so I always switch to the other tab which has all the settings.
Thank you for the info! Lol, I just wish it made the decision easier for me.
But you bring up a couple main points I've been curious about.
How big does the Axon 7 feel compared to the H8? Huge phones turn me off, but the Axon seems decent considering it's 5.5"
And snappiness... is the speed with everyday use noticeable for you? I know you just got the device. This might be the biggest reason I lean towards the Axon 7.
I was considering the honor 8 vs the axon but went fwith the honor 8. This was an "upgrade" from a nexus 6p. From a size standpoint I love the 5in screen on the honor. It looks just as good as as my 6p almost and the battery life is better. As for the speakers I agree that the axon will blow away pretty much anything else on the market. As for the speed the honor is noticable faster then the 6p abit for the gpu which is a bit slower however it is livewithable if you play games. After the upgrade to android 7 on the honor the entire device become snappier. Honestly you are a fan of the form factor I would stick with the honor as there really isnt anything better out at the moment plus it is rootable if you are into that.
OP, what market are you in and what is your local price point?
I'm in the U.S. The Axon 7 (not mini) is listed at 399.00 + tax. I bring the price up because it is so close to the OP3T's price point, 439.00. It's worth looking into if you are already close at 400 bones with the A7. 40 bucks to future proof?
Bit of comparison, 3-way:
RAM. The OP3T has 6gb of lpddr4, the A7 has 4gb of lpddr4, the H8 has 4gb lpddr3. I don't think you will see a big difference in daily use, but the DDR4 is certainly faster and more future proof.
CPU/GPU. The OP3T has a Snapdragon 821 w/Adreno 530, the A7 has the Snapdragon 820 w/ Adreno 530, the H8 has the Kirin 950 w/Mali T880. As far as benchmark goes, the 950 trumps the 820/821. The Adreno however, kills the Mali, so intended usage matters here, and can be a decision maker.
Storage. The OP3T comes with 64gb storage, at the opening price point, but I don't believe it's expandable. The A7 starts with 64gb, expandable. And the H8 opens with 64gb, expandable.
Aesthetics. The A7, to me, is uglier than an Alabama Lot Lizard. The OP3T, well, it isn't ugly, but it isn't a work of art. The H8 is gorgeous, balanced, sized well for the average hand, and more slippery than a wet bar of soap in an oil factory.
Battery. I can only speak for the H8. I don't take a charger with me and I don't run out of battery through out the day. I have Bluetooth running, connected to my watch and headphones. I have wifi and GPS on all day, I listen to podcasts and Spotify for nearly 8 hours daily. I play video games during lunch...No problem.
Modding. I don't really have to say it, the OP3 line has the attention of several talented devs...and a lot of mid-range support guys like myself.
Why don't I have the OP3T? Mostly, I'm out of my bleeding-edge modding phase. The H8 is solid, inexpensive and a thing of beauty. I'm still within my 30 day return period, but the Nougat update is acting nicely and I doubt I'll return it.
Wow, thank you for the replies.
I guess I read wrong, but I swore the 64gb variant of the H8 had 4GB of DDR4 memory. That was actually something I was interested with and definitely overlooked by a lot of people (most reviewers don't even specify ram type).
Does the 950 really out do the Snapdragon 820? I saw a few benchmarks that made me scratch my head. For CPU benches, Geekbench 4 seems to be the go to. I swear I saw some where the 820 in the A7 scores quite a bit higher for single core speeds.
And yeah, I'm not crazy about the design of the ZTE. A phone's design never turned me against it, but I appreciate a good looking device. The Honor definitely wins in the looks department.
Since I have the freedom to use my iPhone 7 work phone basically like a personal (too many customer/work calls made me have to get a 2nd phone), I don't want to go into big $$ for a secondary device. I wanted to stay about under $400.
The 64gb H8 I got for $320 and the A7 I can get for $350. Didn't want to jump out of that range too much.
I used to root phones and mess with roms a few years back but anymore something stable is fine for me. I haven't received the 7.0 update yet on the H8.
Thanks again!
The RAM in the 64gb H8 might be DDR4. I've seen both stated. What I can say is that it benchmarks like DDR3, so that's what I assumed it was. But maybe there is an app or adb command that can provide proof.
Benchmark apps, I think they are well intended, but not exactly a precise prediction of what daily use is like. I've had my scores change by significant numbers, just by running a benchmark twice. Heck, my overall AnTuTu jumped up 6k after I took the B360 update, via Firmware Finder. I take them with a grain of salt.
Good point. I usually am the same way with benchmarks. People rating a phone off of app launching speed tests drives me a bit nuts too.
"Hey, YouTube loaded faster on this 4.7" 1080 device than this 5.5" 1440p phone, even though the latter has to load more content and pixels. First phone,bel faster phone." *sigh*
Just for confirmation, this screenshot is from the Hihonor website. LPDDR3.
Interesting. Wonder if it's region related. Anandtech's review lists ddr4, and while a typo could be assumed, they even comment on it.
"The Honor 8 does make the jump to LPDDR4 RAM, although it’s unlikely this will improve performance because the Kirin 950 and its quad-core GPU are not bandwidth limited."
Anandtech is usually pretty accurate, but who knows?
I downloaded to 7.0 just a few minutes ago. Didn't dig in much, but it seems like a pretty well thought out update.
Unless the CPU/GPU are being held back by memory bandwidth, which Anandtech says isn't the case for the Honor 8, then the only difference would be better battery life and less heat produced with LPDDR4. Since the Honor 8 has good to excellent battery life in general and phones don't overheat because of the RAM (so far as I've ever heard at least) if it does have LPDDR3 it's not making much of a difference.
I'm not sure at what rate memory consumption is growing on Android phones, but with 4 GB of RAM I'm only seeing about half of it used by applications. I don't play any intensive 3D games though, so I can't say how much those use while running. But I'd guess you'll probably be OK with 4 GB for probably at least a year and a half or two years from now. And you will probably want to upgrade because of new hardware features, faster CPU/GPU, software updates, etc by the time 4 GB just isn't cutting it anymore.
The Axon 7 and OP3 were the two other phones I was contemplating before getting an Honor 8 (well those two and the Moto X 2016 which ended up not ever coming into existence and the Pixel which ended up costing more than twice what I wanted to spend configured how I wanted it). The Axon 7 had some complaints in the reviews (back in August) about the Lock Screen Notification bell thing, being slippery in the hand, and the navigation buttons being too close together, and concerns about software updates. The OP3 had no Micro SD card and I wasn't comfortable being capped at 64 GB of space (I'm using ~47/96 GB available in my Honor 8, so it would have been fine in retrospect) and was out of stock in the beginning of October when I wanted to buy one. The Honor 8 I'd heard bad things about EMUI 4.1, how slippery in the hand it was (with a glass back!), and was concerned about software updates. But the Sapphire Blue is super pretty and I could see/feel one in person at a nearby Best Buy and have it that day without sales tax or shipping. So the Honor 8's what I ended up going with and I'm happy with it.
If 3D performance is important to you I'd go with the Axon 7 or OP3T. They're both a LOT faster at it. If custom ROMs and modding are important to you I'd go with the OP3T. There's a much larger active community working on it.
And if you go with the Honor 8 or Axon 7: Get a case. I've never held an Axon 7, but people who have say it's as slippery as the Honor 8 (which is to say very).
The A7 doesn't feel much bigger. But the screen looks bigger. I think it's because it has less wasted space above and below the display. So it feels a little bigger, but I think if the proportions of space above and below the display were equal, it would feel much bigger. Luckily that's not the case. Keep in mind that I came from the LG V10, and that felt like a big phone. It was gigantic. But I loved that phone.
As for snappiness, I have also seen the benchmarks. But not until after I had made my judgement. Purely anecdotal. When I got the H8, it seemed fine to me. Nice and snappy. A few hours later I went to the A7 to see if I had a certain app installed that I would also put on the H8. So I went to the app drawer and started scrolling through. That's when I noticed how fast the A7 is. I have Nova Prime on both, so it shouldn't be a difference between ZTE and Honor launchers.
Not sure if I messed up or not, but I set the Google Clock alarm for 5am. It never went off, and it was gone from the statusbar this morning. I'll have to experiment more. H8 has a "protected apps" section that may be why this happened. I just went in there and changed it so that the Google Clock is protected. And the Google Calendar widget was still displaying as if the current day is yesterday, so I just went in and protected that too. I'll see if that changes things. BTW, the A7 has aggressive power management issues as well.
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And if you go with the Honor 8 or Axon 7: Get a case. I've never held an Axon 7, but people who have say it's as slippery as the Honor 8 (which is to say very).
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It is. I was able to find the same model case for both, so they both look at least somewhat similar in their cases. And they're no longer slippery. Unfortunately both beautiful phones may as well be ugly plastic ones now.
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IMO both phones are great - I just need to get used to some of the differences that Honor has included in EMUI. Neither of my phones have Nougat, so that should hopefully change both for the better. They are different though. And both have SD card slots. This is why One Plus was never an option for me, nor would iPhone, nor would any of the Nexus phones have ever been. Even the Pixel.
Honor 8 is snappier than OnePlus 3 (not the T version):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvRFaIEUba0
OnePlus 3 is snappier than Axon 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvRFaIEUba0
Games aside, honor 8 is much snappier than Axon 7.
Axon 7 has much better audio though.
Games aside, honor 8 is much snappier than Axon 7.
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Based on a benchmark. Some phones cheat on those.
I didn't run any benchmarks. I'm just saying that my perception was that the A7 is quicker than the H8 when scrolling through the Nova app drawer with the grid size altered from default to be 5x6.
Just ran a simple test. Opened FB on both, and opened a web page on both. H8 won. That was after clearing apps using the multitask button. Opened Google Play on both, A7 won. Opened Google Maps on both, A7 won.
Probably not a great test though, since between the time I made my last post earlier, my A7 has been updated to Nougat and the H8 is still on Marshmallow.
The Honor 8 is a great phone... If you're content with EMUI. If you're looking for a custom roms the Axon 7 has more. The GPU on the Axon 7 is far superior to the Honor 8 (which means it'll last longer performance wise), but the CPU on the Honor 8 is substantially better than the SD820.
The Axon 7 has better built in speakers and a better display than the Honor 8.
Overall the only real difference comes to whether or not you can stand EMUI for as long as you have the phone. If you want functioning Lineage, the Axon 7 is the better choice.
One other thing that may be a minor point worth thinking about is the quick charging.
I haven't tried the included adapter yet. But since this does not have a Qualcomm chip, it is not Quick Charge compatible. So Honor has its own method of accomplishing the same thing. If you're like me and various family members have Qualcomm based devices, you may have invested in a Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0 portable charger, wall charger, car charger. I have done that with all 3 of my examples. None of these are going to charge the H8 quickly. It would be nice if there were a single non-proprietary standard.