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If I turn my data connection off and have the Wi-Fi on does that mean its not going through my cellphone providers networks and therefore does not use any data usage on the account?
I am on AT&T and have a treo pro...i turned off the data connections and my phone now only goes online in Wi-Fi mode. So does that mean I am not using my AT&T data plan at all?
Just wondering cause i dont really use the data except at home and think i could save 30 bucks a month without it.
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I know this probably seems a little crazy or weird. But is there any way that I could more permanently turn my mobile data connection off and still use wifi networks? If there is a way to do so I would greatly appreciate any insight or help. Thanks
GarnerArms said:
I know this probably seems a little crazy or weird. But is there any way that I could more permanently turn my mobile data connection off and still use wifi networks? If there is a way to do so I would greatly appreciate any insight or help. Thanks
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Crazy indeed lol, but you should have a quick tile that says "mobile data" which you can turn off or another that says airplane mode which you can turn on. After you can turn on WiFi and use it. You might need to do this every time you reboot but it's the easiest way.
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Crazy indeed lol, but you should have a quick tile that says "mobile data" which you can turn off or another that says airplane mode which you can turn on. After you can turn on WiFi and use it. You might need to do this every time you reboot but it's the easiest way.
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Thanks for the reply Stig. I am aware of the quick tile, I was thinking of something that is a little more permanent that would require some effort to turn mobile data back on. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
GarnerArms said:
Thanks for the reply Stig. I am aware of the quick tile, I was thinking of something that is a little more permanent that would require some effort to turn mobile data back on. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Yeah I understand, figured I'd share the easiest method just in case Are you S-OFF? A more permanent method might require you be S-OFF, I'm not 100% sure but just fyi...
I am indeed S-off. But I am not a developer. Haha. Perhaps there is a way, but if there isn't that is ok too.
Just out of curiosity what is going on that you want it to be so permanent?
GarnerArms said:
I am indeed S-off. But I am not a developer. Haha. Perhaps there is a way, but if there isn't that is ok too.
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What about removing the sim card? I remember seeing either a thread or an xposed module that removes the no sim card notification.
Edit: there is indeed an xposed module for this, only thing though is I don't know if it will work with the M8 and the support page is some Asian language.
xsteven77x said:
Just out of curiosity what is going on that you want it to be so permanent?
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I want to be able to make/receive calls and use WiFi. And the WiFi has filters in place to keep things safe but I don't want to have the ability to bypass the filters simply by using mobile data. I wouldn't be able to make/ receive calls without a sim card in, right Stig?
GarnerArms said:
I want to be able to make/receive calls and use WiFi. And the WiFi has filters in place to keep things safe but I don't want to have the ability to bypass the filters simply by using mobile data. I wouldn't be able to make/ receive calls without a sim card in, right Stig?
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Correct you cannot have any mobile communication without a Sim card.
GarnerArms said:
I want to be able to make/receive calls and use WiFi. And the WiFi has filters in place to keep things safe but I don't want to have the ability to bypass the filters simply by using mobile data. I wouldn't be able to make/ receive calls without a sim card in, right Stig?
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If your on wifi you can make and receive calls over wifi with google voice. Just set up a free google voice number and you can call and text over wifi. Also if you have or get a phone number through magicjack you can use their app and make and receive calls over wifi. Both of these work over wifi and do not require a sim card or mobile data of any kind, you just can only call or text if you have wifi available though.
M9guy said:
If your on wifi you can make and receive calls over wifi with google voice. Just set up a free google voice number and you can call and text over wifi. Also if you have or get a phone number through magicjack you can use their app and make and receive calls over wifi. Both of these work over wifi and do not require a sim card or mobile data of any kind, you just can only call or text if you have wifi available though.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I would still like to have communication even with out the WiFi. I realize that this might not be possible and I really appreciate everyone's suggestions and help.
What does someone do if you want to sell or give that tablet
Before you data plan stop for that device. Even if you do a
Factory reset anyone can turn the mobile data ON!
Sothonod said:
What does someone do if you want to sell or give that tablet
Before you data plan stop for that device. Even if you do a
Factory reset anyone can turn the mobile data ON!
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Take the sim card out of it. Without a sim, it doesn't matter if mobile data is on or not. No sim means no service. You can use the sim in your new device if you're replacing the old one. Otherwise, throw it away.
I hope this hasn't been answered before but searching through these forums with the keyword "tether" and also searching google I have found no solutions
I am tethering my phone's data connection to my laptop, but every time I receive a phone call my connection gets interrupted. I am using my phone's data connection because the wifi here is garbage cause the family is constantly streaming videos.
So what I want is a way to stop receiving calls or even better is my data connection not to be interrupted while receiving calls. Either way is a solution for me.
As an avid gamer, even a few seconds of disconnect feels like a lifetime. Hope someone can help! :good:
Check your operator if it support VoLTE. If yes and your phone software was modified by operator than you just need to activate VoLTE in data settings and you will be able to transfer data during calls.
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Check your operator if it support VoLTE. If yes and your phone software was modified by operator than you just need to activate VoLTE in data settings and you will be able to transfer data during calls.
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I'm sorry but what? Check my operator? I'm not quite sure what that means. I checked everywhere in settings and could not find something that resembled VoLTE. A more noob friendly walk through would help.
Edit: Looked around and found out that my phone doesn't have that option where some galaxy S8+ do have the option. How do I enable seeing it?
valueDD said:
I'm sorry but what? Check my operator? I'm not quite sure what that means. I checked everywhere in settings and could not find something that resembled VoLTE. A more noob friendly walk through would help.
Edit: Looked around and found out that my phone doesn't have that option where some galaxy S8+ do have the option. How do I enable seeing it?
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Try enabling the do not disturb mode
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Check your operator if it support VoLTE. If yes and your phone software was modified by operator than you just need to activate VoLTE in data settings and you will be able to transfer data during calls.
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kclive said:
Try enabling the do not disturb mode
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Still interrupts my connection, I still receive the call but it's just muted. If there was a way to forward all calls to voicemail maybe?
still having a really bad time over here guys help ?
ValueDD Did you enabled VoLte ? Without it data interruption during call is completely normal. If you are on 4G standard when incoming data call is detected then you phone need to switch to 2G to handle it and in this standard other data than vice call cannot be transmitted . Because of that couple years ago VoLte standard was developed which allows to handle calls in 4G technology. For VoLte working it need to be enabled on your phone which need to be supported by our carrier as a VoLte standard itself...If your phone is unsupported than you phone wouldn’t have voice over LTE switch present in the system.
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Hi,
I've noticed that my data is cut off when I make a regular cellular phone call. Is that normal?
I use sim1 for phone calls, and sim2 for data, so I had expected that I could use them both at the same time. It's a little annoying because I use my cell data for an internet connection.
Does it depend on the type of connection? I think they are both 4G most of the time...when I'm a phone call on sim1, sim2 puts up a little hour glass next to the signal meter...I've not seen that before.
I'm assuming you've setup both sims correctly for their required purposes? A good read about it here.
https://gadgetguideonline.com/andro...able-in-dual-sim-dual-standby-android-phones/
https://support.sonymobile.com/glob...nce/0231018807c614a08013cec540b570055ff/#gref
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/151769
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I'm assuming you've setup both sims correctly for their required purposes? A good read about it here.
https://gadgetguideonline.com/andro...able-in-dual-sim-dual-standby-android-phones/
https://support.sonymobile.com/glob...nce/0231018807c614a08013cec540b570055ff/#gref
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/151769
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Thanks for that!
I think I had set it up that way earlier, but have been fiddling to try to get it to work and had disabled one or two of those things.
In any case, I have now enabled them, but it still doesn't work - ie, if I make a call using one sim, the other one gets a small 'hour glass' next to it and the things using it for an internet connection get disconnected.
I wonder if there's a way to completely disable 'voice' for the sim I'm using for data only?
I'd like to force my Pixel 7 to disconnect from any mobile network, without using airplane mode. Do you know a way to achieve this?
Reason for asking this: I will travel abroad and use a secondary SIM to provide me with data, while using my primary SIM with voWiFi (or Backup calling). That'd would keep me reachable on my phone number and allow me to make calls/SMS @home at local rates.
The reason for having my primary SIM disconnected from any mobile network is due to the fact that my primary carrier will charge me for calls/SMS depending on the latest place I got connected to a mobile network. They charge roaming fees even when you're using voWiFi in airplane mode! I have tested this already on a previous trip.
One way would be to select a network manually, or a network that I know it won't connect. However, if I turn on and off airplane mode (to take a flight), the phone will connect to the latest network it connected successfully to.
So my strategy is to connect manually to my home network at home, hoping the phone doesn't magically connect to a network. That's why, I'd like to really make sure that the phone can't connect to any mobile network, just to be sure it won't connect to a network while roaming. But only on the primary SIM. For the other SIM I do want to get connected.
For those wondering, my carrier is T-Mobile NL.
Try messing up the apn details on your sim when abroad. That will prevent connection
The issue is that messing with apn won't prevent the phone to register to a roaming network. That alone will tell my carrier where I am and charge roaming fees accordingly...
@jasalta387 Interesting problem for sure. Can you forward your calls to the secondary (travel) sim and use WhatsApp or Signal to call on wifi? Or leave an auto message giving your foreign number. Any time you connect to the primary network you will be charged, no two ways about it on an Android device. I do believe the iPhone has that capability however. Even if you receive a text on the primary you will trigger a roaming charge. Perhaps the only way to avoid that is turning off the sim entirely while traveling. See if they have an inexpensive international plan?
Indeed, iPhone can easily be disconnected from a cellular network by selecting one that doesn't register. That setting sticks even while cycling through airplane mode or a device reboot. On Pixel this is not the case. Pixel will register again, hence my issue.
I know I could rely on 3rd party apps or services or call forwarding. Problem is that I then need to redirect all people who could reach me to them somehow, while using wifi calling is just fine. Even SMS come and go through it. I just need to not make my carrier aware I'm overseas. Hence my question.
I could use a second device that provides me data and keep my phone all the time in airplane mode. This needs that I carry the two devices all the time with the logistics of charging two phones and all of that. I just want to do it all with my Pixel.
I was thinking one thing: I need to go to the US. Is 3G dead there for good? Because then I could tell my Pixel to use 3G and not allow 2G. That'd keep it away from any accidental network registration upon landing.
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Indeed, iPhone can easily be disconnected from a cellular network by selecting one that doesn't register. That setting sticks even while cycling through airplane mode or a device reboot. On Pixel this is not the case. Pixel will register again, hence my issue.
I know I could rely on 3rd party apps or services or call forwarding. Problem is that I then need to redirect all people who could reach me to them somehow, while using wifi calling is just fine. Even SMS come and go through it. I just need to not make my carrier aware I'm overseas. Hence my question.
I could use a second device that provides me data and keep my phone all the time in airplane mode. This needs that I carry the two devices all the time with the logistics of charging two phones and all of that. I just want to do it all with my Pixel.
I was thinking one thing: I need to go to the US. Is 3G dead there for good? Because then I could tell my Pixel to use 3G and not allow 2G. That'd keep it away from any accidental network registration upon landing.
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I'm intrigued by this and would love to find a solution for you. Oh yeah, 3G is dead across the US from all reports. So I'm trying to parse this scenario, let's see if I get this right. You want to have phone calls come into your primary phone line (Sim 1) but no network connectivity for data, right so far. Also you want SMS to the primary while roaming. The problem is that even if you don't get a phone call or text the connection to the network alone will trigger a billing instance, right so far again?
My daughter has an iPhone and turns off data on the sim but can get phone calls and text. As soon as she does though there is a daily billing charge of $10 because she's outside the US. I also think she can connect to wifi and make calls and text without a carrier network. But I'm not sure about. But that aside, how would you like it to work? Would you like it to connect to the network but not get charged unless you get a call or SMS? Because once a call comes in you're roaming charges will ensue. In airplane mode and strictly wifi there should be no charges but you say they bill you anyway right? Are you sure you didn't get a text or something to trigger the charge? I hope I'm reading this right.
My carrier bills calls and SMS based on the country of the latest connected cellular network. So if I don't connect to any network while I'm abroad my carrier will think I never left the country.
I don't want neither data nor calls/SMS on my primary SIM using cellular while abroad. I can get all calls and SMS via WiFi calling on that primary SIM. To get WiFi calling when I'm abroad I will use the data connection on my secondary SIM or any WiFi network.
Because of the need to get the secondary SIM on, airplane mode doesn't help me. So I need my primary SIM to never to any cellular network while I'm abroad.
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My carrier bills calls and SMS based on the country of the latest connected cellular network. So if I don't connect to any network while I'm abroad my carrier will think I never left the country.
I don't want neither data nor calls/SMS on my primary SIM using cellular while abroad. I can get all calls and SMS via WiFi calling on that primary SIM. To get WiFi calling when I'm abroad I will use the data connection on my secondary SIM or any WiFi network.
Because of the need to get the secondary SIM on, airplane mode doesn't help me. So I need my primary SIM to never to any cellular network while I'm abroad.
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And if you turn off the sim then even WiFi doesn't work on your primary number?
If the SIM is turned off, then you don't get WiFi calling
Try the 4636 menu
Choose the SIM you want from drop down
3 dot menu top right
Disable data connection
jasalta387 said:
If the SIM is turned off, then you don't get WiFi calling
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Is it possible to adjust the order of airplane mode / network /wifi on-off so as to not allow the sim to connect to the network but still allow wifi on the sim? So for instance, disable the sim, turn on airplane mode, turn on the sim and then enable wifi calling while in airplane mode, turn off airplane mode with data turned off on the sim. I can't believe with no data, calls, sms and only wifi the carrier will charge you roaming. That just doesn't seem right.
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Is it possible to adjust the order of airplane mode / network /wifi on-off so as to not allow the sim to connect to the network but still allow wifi on the sim? So for instance, disable the sim, turn on airplane mode, turn on the sim and then enable wifi calling while in airplane mode, turn off airplane mode with data turned off on the sim. I can't believe with no data, calls, sms and only wifi the carrier will charge you roaming. That just doesn't seem right.
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I don't know if you would follow this suggestion...
But in case you are interested in it, this sounds like something you could pull off automatically with something like MacroDroid or Tasker or some other automation app -- even without being rooted! But I concur, it doesn't make sense that a carrier charge roaming when there would be no data, calls, or sms but only wifi....I'm of the opinion (previously stated somewhere in the thread here) that you might've either misread the bill and/or accidentally "caught" a text or transferred a byte of data and it triggered...
Hey there, I know it sounds harsh that a carrier bills this way. It is verified and discussed in a local forum here (in Dutch) https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/74880578#74880578
Of course, here there are a few things at play:
1- the carrier wants to have a clear way of communication and support. If you are abroad, those are the prices you pay for. That's it. You know it for sure. They don't want to have to explain how to turn on VoWIFI and explain how to make that working for every phone, or explain to you that you made a call thinking you were on VoWIFI while you weren't. Their approach is crystal clear.
2- the carrier makes some extra income this way. While travelling in the US: for every SMS sent they charge 0.51 EUR, calls placed 1.27 EUR, calls received 0.76 EUR and 2.50 EUR per MB of data. For data, they sell some passes that makes the price more reasonable. Note that unlimited plans for domestic data/calls here start at 25 EUR per month.
3- In The Netherlands (and for pretty much every country in EU) people rely quite a lot on 3rd party apps for calls and texting, especially when you are abroad. WhatsApp is the go-to service, even for domestic communication. People don't even bother using their home carrier when travelling outside of EU. They just remove (or disable) that SIM. So the high cost of roaming is usually left to business users for which companies pay or make better deals with the carriers.
One thing I didn't mention is that in NL, pretty much all carriers limit VoWIFI to Dutch IP addresses. To use VoWIFI you'd need to use a router that tunnels all IP traffic via a VPN that has an exit point in The Netherlands. That's how I conducted my test and verified that all activity using VoWIFI was billed using the same fares as if I was using a roaming cellular network.
I want to try this using a secondary SIM from a Dutch provider, which will give me the Dutch IP address. Backup Calling on my primary SIM will make that SIM to connect to VoWIFI. But to get my home fares, I really need to make sure that my primary SIM doesn't connect to any network while I'm travelling (hence my original request).