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Who here uses the auto brightness on the captivate? I noticed that when i have it checked off, it makes the screen dimmer than it used to be. When the screen is dimmed too far, i realized that we're not taking advantage of the super amoled. The colors just look average when the screen is dark. I checked the auto brightness off and the difference is night and day. I have the brightness around 40 percent. my only question is, will my battery take a HUGE hit from this?
btw, what exactly is power saving mode? i originally thought it was the same as the auto brightness but im guessing im wrong.
I don't use auto brightness on mine. I usually keep it all the way dim and my batter lasts wonderfully long. And when Im trying to look at something that i think needs to be brighter i just slide my finger across the notification bar to the right. To me power saving mode i think just adjusts the brightness based on the colors of the image it is displaying. I've had it on since I've had the device though so i don't know exactly how it works.
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I keep mine on the dimmest setting since it still looks great, and even downloaded the screen dimmer app recently. I've never used anything higher though... I take public transit and actually feel conscious about how insanely bright and vibrant the screen can be to people near me and never turn it up.
When I'm outdoors during daylight hours, the only way to discern anything on the display is at full bright. Yes, there is a big hit on the battery. I get about 4 hours, but I have a spare battery at the ready.
hi all, I want to find out whether having the screen brightness on 10% really saves battery or is it better to have it on auto.
desiresiscool said:
hi all, I want to find out whether having the screen brightness on 10% really saves battery or is it better to have it on auto.
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It would be easy to test this yourself.
Set it to auto for a couple of days, make records.
Set it to 10% for a couple of days, make records.
You could also try a battery monitoring widget which shows mA consumed. These are great for this kinda thing.
To your question, I'd say it depends on ambient light. If you're somewhere where auto would set the brightness higher than 10% (read bright light situations), it will consume more battery. If you're somewhere dark, it could be that it will use the same. I keep mine set to 10%, and adjust as needed. I've found that auto often sets the brightness higher than I'd like to have it (I've got an SGS2, but I'm also very battery conscious).
I've found that the auto-brightness keeps the display much brighter than it really needs to be during operation in low ambient light (e.g. indoors), so I generally leave mine switched to manual and turned down.
Subjectively, keeping the display dimmer like this seems to make the battery last much longer, although naturally you'd need to do tests to have proof! Certainly well worth trying.
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can change in roms eg cm7.1 for auto brightness
I use Lux. Works very well on my stock TM-UK ROM.
Possibly the more effective software I used to increase battery life
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vito.lux
fasty said:
I've found that the auto-brightness keeps the display much brighter than it really needs to be during operation in low ambient light (e.g. indoors), so I generally leave mine switched to manual and turned down.
Subjectively, keeping the display dimmer like this seems to make the battery last much longer, although naturally you'd need to do tests to have proof! Certainly well worth trying.
- Steve
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i made the same experience with the auto-brightness. I also use a widget which lets me change the brightness on my homescreen, it's quick and very useful.
So im (not) patiently waiting for my Galaxy s 3 to come here Tuesday and I was just wondering what does everyone have their brightness set to? I know that i personally am going to be hesistant to set my screen brightness to 100% seeing how my galaxy nexus suffered a burn in where you could see the keyboard imprinted on the screen. At the same time I want to have an amazing picture and I know i will get annoyed of the auto brightness =/ Anyways I know this is a weird question so I just wanted to know what everyone else was doing with their phone
I have mine at 25-30% by itself. Its kinda dark but I don't mind. Its just enough
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I have mine set to maximum brightness.
blackguy101 said:
So im (not) patiently waiting for my Galaxy s 3 to come here Tuesday and I was just wondering what does everyone have their brightness set to? I know that i personally am going to be hesistant to set my screen brightness to 100% seeing how my galaxy nexus suffered a burn in where you could see the keyboard imprinted on the screen. At the same time I want to have an amazing picture and I know i will get annoyed of the auto brightness =/ Anyways I know this is a weird question so I just wanted to know what everyone else was doing with their phone
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I run mine at about 45%.
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0%.
Huge improvement over an iPhone 3G's 0% brightness.
mine is at about 30% for indoor use. The screen is darker than SG1. I could use the SG1 at 0% indoor and anything over 50% used to be painful on eyes. Not in SG3. Outdoors i have to set 80% for good visibility in SG3. I hope Samsung will give us the update for brightness control on the status bar like they did just now for the international version.
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If I'm not mistaken phones tend to come with a year manufacturer warranty, personally if that's the case and you hit burn in then it should get replaced easily.
My fassy got burn in 6 months and got it swapped without issue, so I'd have no problem cranking it up if I were not concerned about battery, which I leave up now the way it is as I like seeing my screen well
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50%, I got over 2 hours of screen-on time and 15 total hours of battery.
Still have it on auto and I'm on the second week of ownership of this phone.
auto brightness all the time and it is sometimes almost too dark.
Another thing better implemented by HTC
I find that the "Auto Brightness" feature doesn't really work. Meaning it never adjusts the brightness at all. So I manually keep mine set to about 30% all the time. I don't keep a close eye on my battery but I don't have to recharge at all during the day it lasts me wake to sleep. I call, text, play games, and browse the net a little.
Auto brightness is garbage unfortunately but lux in the market works very well.
i run max brightness all the time
Using Lux. Auto-brightness calibrated to what looks good to me.
Auto brightness for me!
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Auto
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1 percent, I work nights so it's often dark out. Day this me, about 20 percent.
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corythug said:
1 percent, I work nights so it's often dark out. Day this me, about 20 percent.
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If you have root, you can set it to lower than manufacturer 0% with an app titled "Screen Filter." I don't have my GSIII yet but I've used this on older phones without issue.
Auto-brightness on battery, with 15 second screen timeout. (smart stay works 90% of the time, even when lit only by an LCD monitor)
100% brightness on charger, with 60 second screen timeout.
I use my own app (ChargeBright) to automatically toggle between the two settings, otherwise I'd go crazy.
Oh, I just realized that I'm not actually at 0%, but 15% (Samsung's minimum). Lux won't let you link below 15% in the free version, but it's still useful if you want to change what screen brightness corresponds with what ambient light.
Out of curiosity, what brightness are people using for their phones. I remember reading some test on older phones where there there was a definite cutoff where reducing brightness didn't equate to major increase in battery life. I'm currently at 40%, without adaptive brightness (it started to annoy me as it seemed to be a little unstable at times...noticeable shifting that it looks like others have experienced) , but curious if going slightly lower (30% or 35%) is worth it to maintain a nice display while improving battery life. I love a clear bright screen but also value battery life so interested in good balance. Thanks.
I'm curious about this as well. I run mine at 25% but do keep all radios on.
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I use adaptive and just set the brightness to whatever I'm comfortable with. That usually means somewhere around 26-30%, sometimes turned up a bit in dim rooms as it can auto-dim a bit too much. This isn't about battery though, I'm just more comfortable with this brightness than with higher. Not studied the effect on battery life.
I keep mine at 25% with adaptive brightness turned on. It gets dark enough at night and bright enough during the day to be comfortable on my eyes in both situations. I have no idea how it affects battery though.
So I've noticed that my brand new 8T battery life isn't very impressive. I found an article on gsm arena that said there is a bug that causes the device to stay at 120hz all the time when the device is using dark mode. Normally it should clock down the refresh rate when the device isn't being used.
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Now, let's talk about the refresh rate.
To save power, the display will normally dial back to 60Hz after you stop touching it. It does have its quirks though. If brightness is below 50%, or you have Dark mode ON, it will always keep a 120Hz refresh rate. Yet, some apps like Google Maps, YouTube or fullscreen video playback will always run at 60Hz.
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Anyway, I'm just wondering if anyone has noticed this same issue with bad battery and if so are you using dark mode?
UPDATE: I've noticed that the home screen will get stuck at 120hz if you use one of the active wallpapers. I recommend using a static wallpaper to allow the screen to go to 60hz. I've also verified that the settings app in dark mode gets stuck at 120hz. For best battery, set your system dark mode to off. Use a static home screen wallpaper and manually set dark mode for each of the other apps you use daily.
Thanks.
I think they made an error on saying that dark mode keeps 120 all the time. I just used a refresh rate app on dark mode and was able to change from 60 to 120 and it does not stay on 120 in dark mode...so not sure what to tell you???
jaseman said:
I think they made an error on saying that dark mode keeps 120 all the time. I just used a refresh rate app on dark mode and was able to change from 60 to 120 and it does not stay on 120 in dark mode...so not sure what to tell you???
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Thanks for checking. I just took their word for it. I think my problem is that I was assuming the battery would be way better than the Pixel 3 XL I upgraded from but it's just marginally better. I'm just hoping the battery optimization will start doing its thing the longer I use the phone.
It seems there is a mechanism that adjust the refresh rate by regarding a combination of background color and screen brightness.
I have an almost black homescreen, and no matter how high I set the screen brightness, it always stays at 120Hz.
But when using an app with a white background and set the display a little brighter, it switches to 60Hz after a few seconds.
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So I've noticed that my brand new 8T battery life isn't very impressive. I found an article on gsm arena that said there is a bug that causes the device to stay at 120hz all the time when the device is using dark mode. Normally it should clock down the refresh rate when the device isn't being used.
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Anyway, I'm just wondering if anyone has noticed this same issue with bad battery and if so are you using dark mode?
Thanks.
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I'm using dark mode from the beginning and tried switching between 120hz and 60hz as I'm not getting that much impressive battery backup. The max i had got was like 6hrs of sot without AOD and ambient display off. Just a normal user. Some casual games, instagram, 90% times on wifi. And yesterday i got like 4hrs of sot at 60hz without AOD but with ambient display notifications on. On the other hand I'm glad we have a 65w which charges the device pretty fast.
I will try the light theme mode and check the battery life and update here.
I think it's forced 120hz unlike Samsung's adaptive. I left the counter enabled from dev options and never see it throttle down unless that's a bug. The description in display settings does say it will switch on its own but I never see that happening. Only time it shows 60hz is when going full screen landscape during videos or certain games that don't support it that's probably what it means by switching dynamically. Could also explain why we get worse battery life than s20fe users who have similar specs but are getting 9hr sot with 120hz. I've checked a few of their screenshots in the sot thread.
Anyone know more about it and can confirm?
@DroidzforLife I am coming from Mi 9T Pro. I had 6-7 hours SOT with my usage (gaming + social media). That was a 60Hz phone. With OP8T, even with a bigger battery, I get around 4 hours of SOT for the same usage. Note that I am constantly in dark mode, and 99% of the apps that I use have dark mode enabled. And it's constantly at 120Hz for me, by enabling the toggle, like @Anon1136 said.
The battery definitely is worse here. The only positive about it is that it charges insanely fast. That's all. My SOT slightly improved to around 5hours by flashing the Radioactive kernel.
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@DroidzforLife I am coming from Mi 9T Pro. I had 6-7 hours SOT with my usage (gaming + social media). That was a 60Hz phone. With OP8T, even with a bigger battery, I get around 4 hours of SOT for the same usage. Note that I am constantly in dark mode, and 99% of the apps that I use have dark mode enabled. And it's constantly at 120Hz for me, by enabling the toggle, like @Anon1136 said.
The battery definitely is worse here. The only positive about it is that it charges insanely fast. That's all. My SOT slightly improved to around 5hours by flashing the Radioactive kernel.
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Since posting I've switched to system light mode with manually set dark mode in as many apps as possible and the battery seems to have improved but still is not impressive. With my Pixel 3 XL I could get easily 6.5hrs of SOT. I guess we will have to sit back and enjoy our 65w charging for now. I'm just hoping that the adaptive battery stuff will greatly improve the battery life.
Oh and I switched to 60hz/Light Mode and the SOT didn't get much better...
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Since posting I've switched to system light mode with manually set dark mode in as many apps as possible and the battery seems to have improved but still is not impressive. With my Pixel 3 XL I could get easily 6.5hrs of SOT. I guess we will have to sit back and enjoy our 65w charging for now. I'm just hoping that the adaptive battery stuff will greatly improve the battery life.
Oh and I switched to 60hz/Light Mode and the SOT didn't get much better...
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I hope so, too
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Since posting I've switched to system light mode with manually set dark mode in as many apps as possible and the battery seems to have improved but still is not impressive. With my Pixel 3 XL I could get easily 6.5hrs of SOT. I guess we will have to sit back and enjoy our 65w charging for now. I'm just hoping that the adaptive battery stuff will greatly improve the battery life.
Oh and I switched to 60hz/Light Mode and the SOT didn't get much better...
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60hz only saved about 10-15% more battery when I tested not really worth it imo. The next update has power consumption and overheat fixes mentioned in the change log so maybe things will be better after. I hope everyone will get that update soon
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60hz only saved about 10-15% more battery when I tested not really worth it imo. The next update has power consumption and overheat fixes mentioned in the change log so maybe things will be better after. I hope everyone will get that update soon
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You mean 11.0.2.3 right? I am on that update. SOT slightly improved. No major changes.
theincognito said:
You mean 11.0.2.3 right? I am on that update. SOT slightly improved. No major changes.
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Oh. Well that sucks
My variant didn't get the update yet now I'm not that excited about it lol. Btw does everyone have 5g enabled? It was draining my battery like crazy the first few days now I just leave it on lte. Wanted to share some sot without it but it's not letting me upload for some reason. I can reach 9hr or close to it if I'm mostly on wifi with 120hz all the time, dark mode in most apps except for the ones that mess with text color, 4g, auto brightness around 40-50% light~medium usage as in videos browse text call (anything that isn't gaming or camera). Idle drain is not so great compared to my other phones even with minimal apps installed guessing it will be improved later
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I think it's forced 120hz unlike Samsung's adaptive. I left the counter enabled from dev options and never see it throttle down unless that's a bug. The description in display settings does say it will switch on its own but I never see that happening. Only time it shows 60hz is when going full screen landscape during videos or certain games that don't support it that's probably what it means by switching dynamically. Could also explain why we get worse battery life than s20fe users who have similar specs but are getting 9hr sot with 120hz. I've checked a few of their screenshots in the sot thread.
Anyone know more about it and can confirm?
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When using a dark background you can set brightnes to max and it will stay at 120hz no matter what.
Try a white background and crank the screen brightness all the way up. Refresh rate will switch to 60hz almost instantly.
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When using a dark background you can set brightnes to max and it will stay at 120hz no matter what.
Try a white background and crank the screen brightness all the way up. Refresh rate will switch to 60hz almost instantly.
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Just tried that but it stayed 120hz. Could it be because I'm on the t-mobile rom? 11.0.1.3
I had this bug where I would wake my screen and it'd be 60hz but still show 120 for some reason
tried light theme mode and not much change in battery backup
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rahulje9 said:
tried light theme mode and not much change in battery backup
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I agree. Disappointing... I went back to fully dark mode @ 120hz because I might as well enjoy what I like while my battery is draining extremely fast right?
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tried light theme mode and not much change in battery backup
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Kind of weird sot doesn't change much no matter which refresh rate or theme it's on. I'm getting similar sot on both light theme+120hz and 60hz+dark
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Kind of weird sot doesn't change much no matter which refresh rate or theme it's on. I'm getting similar sot on both light theme+120hz and 60hz+dark
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True, I had got 6+ hrs once and after that it was like 5 or below. Nothing changed in between
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I agree. Disappointing... I went back to fully dark mode @ 120hz because I might as well enjoy what I like while my battery is draining extremely fast right?
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yes, at least it will look good.
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did someone try the latest update?
it is not showing for me but this article has a download link.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8t-oxygenos-11-0-2-3-update-optimizes-5g-power-consumption/
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yes, at least it will look good.
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did someone try the latest update?
it is not showing for me but this article has a download link.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8t-oxygenos-11-0-2-3-update-optimizes-5g-power-consumption/
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Yeah someone tried it a few posts above they said it didn't improve sot by much