Hello All,
In my new home is very low T-Mobile signal strength.
As i know from carrier official page, T-Mobile supports VoLTE and VoWiFi (Wi-Fi calling) in my country.
Now (6 july 2017) i have installed newest LineageOS build. There no option to enable Wi-Fi Calling/VoWiFi, but regarding to official Qualcomm site Osprey's processor (Snapdagon 410) supports Wi-Fi Calling/VoWiFi:
Next-generation Calling Services
Voice over Wi-Fi (VoWiFi) with LTE call continuity
HD Voice over 3G and VoLTE
It is posible to enable Wi-Fi Calling/VoWiFi on Osprey?
This solution does not work. When i make Wi-Fi Calling enable it going back to off.
Device: Moto G 2015 (XT1541)
Country: Poland
Carrier: T-Mobile
ROM: LineageOS 14.1 build from 6 july 2017
mrViZhy said:
Hello All,
In my new home is very low T-Mobile signal strength.
Is i know from carrier official page, T-Mobile supports VoLTE and VoWiFi (Wi-Fi calling) in my country.
Now (6 july 2017) i have installed newest LineageOS build. There no option to enable Wi-Fi Calling/VoWiFi, but regarding to official Qualcomm site Osprey's processor (Snapdagon 410) supports Wi-Fi Calling/VoWiFi:
Next-generation Calling Services
Voice over Wi-Fi (VoWiFi) with LTE call continuity
HD Voice over 3G and VoLTE
It is posible to enable Wi-Fi Calling/VoWiFi on Osprey?
This solution does not work. When i make Wi-Fi Calling enable it going back to off.
Device: Moto G 2015 (XT1541)
Country: Poland
Carrier: T-Mobile
ROM: LineageOS 14.1 build from 6 july 2017
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FYI For U.S. prepaid T-mobile accounts: T-Mobile may require address and other information to be entered on their website into the account profile for that phone #. If that information is entered on-line and the account has WiFi calling properly enabled it should work when the device has wifi connection and no cellular connection. This is not dependent on any settings on the phone and should work even if you don't see any settings there. You might want to contact your provider about this.
mrViZhy said:
... It is posible to enable Wi-Fi Calling/VoWiFi on Osprey?
This solution does not work. When i make Wi-Fi Calling enable it going back to off.
Device: Moto G 2015 (XT1541)
Country: Poland
Carrier: T-Mobile
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No, it doesn't work, not with T-Mobile. It won't stay on, no matter what you do.
I have MetroPCS/T-mobile USA, and I have had the exact same issue. I've had no problems using wifi calling on my same account with other phones, but not this one (they do require you to register your full info here, as the last poster said). T-mobile support themselves have told me, however, they only allow wifi calling on phones purchased directly from them, and that's why no go, at least not in the USA. I'm assuming that's their policy in other countries, too?
I don't know if there is a hack/workaround.
Side note: When I go to Europe, which is often, I re-register my old, official t-mobile phone with t-mobile usa, leave my US sim in it, and I use that phone thru wifi calling to still have a US phone while there. I throw a UK sim in my Moto G to use every day.
beachfl said:
No, it doesn't work, not with T-Mobile. It won't stay on, no matter what you do.
I have MetroPCS/T-mobile USA, and I have had the exact same issue. I've had no problems using wifi calling on my same account with other phones, but not this one (they do require you to register your full info here, as the last poster said). T-mobile support themselves have told me, however, they only allow wifi calling on phones purchased directly from them, and that's why no go, at least not in the USA. I'm assuming that's their policy in other countries, too?
I don't know if there is a hack/workaround.
Side note: When I go to Europe, which is often, I re-register my old, official t-mobile phone with t-mobile usa, leave my US sim in it, and I use that phone thru wifi calling to still have a US phone while there. I throw a UK sim in my Moto G to use every day.
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From what I understand, I could be wrong though, T-Mobile open sourced their WiFi calling and anybody can implement it but LineageOS haven't done it yet. It's a matter of adding the code (just like VoLTE) I think. I don't think T-mobile checks if it's their phone or not, the right software need to run, that's all. The problem is that the software is very low level and needs to part of the kernel, you can't just install some app and make it work. This is what I found when I did my search for LineageOS and WiFi calling a few months back. from T-Mobile forums. Of course anybody can post anything in those forums so it's not official or anything but a few users provided the same answer (some seemed quite knowledgeable) so I believe this is it (probably better than talking so some phone rep reading off FAQ's haha)
rb1979 said:
From what I understand, I could be wrong though, T-Mobile open sourced their WiFi calling and anybody can implement it but LineageOS haven't done it yet. It's a matter of adding the code (just like VoLTE) I think. I don't think T-mobile checks if it's their phone or not, the right software need to run, that's all. The problem is that the software is very low level and needs to part of the kernel, you can't just install some app and make it work. This is what I found when I did my search for LineageOS and WiFi calling a few months back. from T-Mobile forums...
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It's not unheard of for mobile providers to do just what I'm suggesting t-mobile does. In the UK, for example, Vodafone limits WiFi calling even further than that, to only a few select Voda-sold models (or at least it was like that when I was there recently).
I would very much appreciate being pointed in the direction of guidance by anyone who's been successful in getting it to work on any non-tmobile handset, custom ROM/kernel or not. Thanks much x
IronTechmonkey said:
FYI For U.S. prepaid T-mobile accounts: T-Mobile may require address and other information to be entered on their website into the account profile for that phone #. If that information is entered on-line and the account has WiFi calling properly enabled it should work when the device has wifi connection and no cellular connection. This is not dependent on any settings on the phone and should work even if you don't see any settings there. You might want to contact your provider about this.
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Hi IronTechmonkey, at first I took it as a fact but later I thought about it and now I'm thinking how would WiFi calling work without LinageOS having code for it. Once you're outside of their network and T-Mobile (others too of course) can't get to your phone through SIM card the only way for anything to work is if the software on the phone through the internet first contacts the provider, correct me wrong but how would the provider get to you? This is just my thinking about it so I'm not sure but what common sense tells. I have the address on T-mobile and everything setup but since I'm not NJ where coverage is everywhere it's not easy for me test it but I'm scared without LineageOS actually getting on top of it and implementing the code it's not going to work. I'll test it once I go somewhere with no coverage but haven't had a chance yet.
rb1979 said:
Hi IronTechmonkey, at first I took it as a fact but later I thought about it and now I'm thinking how would WiFi calling work without LinageOS having code for it. Once you're outside of their network and T-Mobile (others too of course) can't get to your phone through SIM card the only way for anything to work is if the software on the phone through the internet first contacts the provider, correct me wrong but how would the provider get to you? This is just my thinking about it so I'm not sure but what common sense tells. I have the address on T-mobile and everything setup but since I'm not NJ where coverage is everywhere it's not easy for me test it but I'm scared without LineageOS actually getting on top of it and implementing the code it's not going to work. I'll test it once I go somewhere with no coverage but haven't had a chance yet.
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Good question. I wasn't being quite clear enough in replying, and was speaking to whether or not there would be settings in the ROM if the feature exists, but was not speaking to whether or not the code is present. To the point of your question, from general web searching this seems to be device/ROM-build specific but when I search specifically for Lineage OS Osprey wifi-calling I find this thread. LOL. Apart from that this jira ticket for a different device is all I can find: https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/BUGBASH-508.
IronTechmonkey said:
Good question. I wasn't being quite clear enough in replying, and was speaking to whether or not there would be settings in the ROM if the feature exists, but was not speaking to whether or not the code is present. To the point of your question, from general web searching this seems to be device/ROM-build specific but when I search specifically for Lineage OS Osprey wifi-calling I find this conversations. LOL. Apart from that this jira ticket for a different device is all I can find: https://jira.lineageos.org/browse/BUGBASH-508.
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Thanks, so I'm confused now, and thanks for your help. I know with VoLTE it was such a big deal we had whole posts about removing it and then bringing it back etc... all the updates and drama we need while nobody mentions even once if this device has wifi calling or not, haha, weird
I want to reopen this thread, I tried to ask in the official development opsrey thread but was sent to Q & A, so I'm reopening this thread. Anybody knows anything about Wi-Fi calling for osprey and LOS? Will it be implemented? Can I make a request somewhere? Maybe just switch to LOS 15 when it's official, will it have it on the arrival? I traveled outside of the US and did different tests and couldn't get Wi-Fi calling to work? Here's my post from the official osprey development thread with more detailed, thanks you, https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73769962&postcount=5299
BTW, I made all necessary changes back in the USA with T-mobile to make Wi-Fi calling work, thanks.
So, WiFi Calling is unavailable as default option on any of ROMs for our devices.
BUT
For example, in Poland everybody who has Android higher than 4.1 can use "WiFi-calling" on "Orange" carrier. This carrier offers some application which realy works:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.orange.vowifi&hl=pl
Functionality of this app is same, but i think it drains more battery than "wifi-calling" implemented as driver in kernel.
mrViZhy said:
So, WiFi Calling is unavailable as default option on any of ROMs for our devices.
BUT
For example, in Poland everybody who has Android higher than 4.1 can use "WiFi-calling" on "Orange" carrier. This carrier offers some application which realy works:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.orange.vowifi&hl=pl
Functionality of this app is same, but i think it drains more battery than "wifi-calling" implemented as driver in kernel.
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Thanks mrViZhy, actually I'm traveling from USA to Poland too. What I would like to do is keep the US number and receive text message (and pick up phone calls too) from US. I'm assuming your solution requires getting Orange number, if that's the case it would break the connection that I have with the US.
Thanks again for your help
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My OnePlus One is on latest cyanogen 12.1, completely stock and unrooted. I am noticing high battery drain on cell stand by (42%)
and of that 52% of the time there is no connection to carrier.
Is there a fix for this issue? My wife's Note Edge (SM-N915G on stock KitKat) has no signal issues with T-Mobile. but my OnePlus One show no connection most of the time. Is this a CM12.1 issue or is this a known issue with OPO and T-Mobile combination?
Appreciate the help.
Which baseband?
This could just be because of where you're located. The OPO only supports one of T-Mobile's LTE bands, band 4, while the Galaxy Note Edge supports all three, including band 12, which has much greater range and building penetration.
All of the recent T-Mobile commercials touting improved coverage area and better building penetration are based off of using band 12 on their newer devices which support VOLTE (voice over LTE). All of their new towers incorporate this band in areas that previously had little or no coverage (especially rural and suburban).
If you're in an outlying area with poor band 4 coverage your handset will be constantly trying to lock in on the weak signal and shifting from 3G, 4G, and LTE. Doing this also greatly reduces data transmission speed and reduces battery life.
If you're in an urban area with strong signal acquisition, then forget what I just said, you have another issue.
Hope this helps.
i used OPO on tmobile and it worked fine, depends on many factors including location, time of day and of course the bands used by the device.
karthics4 said:
i used OPO on tmobile and it worked fine, depends on many factors including location, time of day and of course the bands used by the device.
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I see from your profile that you reside in the UK. The OP doesn't list his, so I'm operating under the assumption that he's here in the states. My observations and comments in the post above yours, are strictly based on what I know about this device and with T-Mobile USA, as I'm unfamiliar with its operations in other countries.
Odysseus1962 said:
I see from your profile that you reside in the UK. The OP doesn't list his, so I'm operating under the assumption that he's here in the states. My observations and comments in the post above yours, are strictly based on what I know about this device and with T-Mobile USA, as I'm unfamiliar with its operations in other countries.
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Apologies, should have included location detail. This OPO is in Austin, tx so its metro area.
Baseband: DI.3.0c6-00241-m8974aaaaanazm-1
Cynogen version: 12.1.1-YOG7DAS2K1
Kernel version: 3.4.67-cyanogenmod-g9220ae3
Build: LMY48Y
Will I get better luck on AT&T with OPO?
Agent5150 said:
Apologies, should have included location detail. This OPO is in Austin, tx so its metro area.
Baseband: DI.3.0c6-00241-m8974aaaaanazm-1
Cynogen version: 12.1.1-YOG7DAS2K1
Kernel version: 3.4.67-cyanogenmod-g9220ae3
Build: LMY48Y
Will I get better luck on AT&T with OPO?
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You might, but I can't say for sure. The OPO supports 2 of the 3 bands AT&T utilizes, band 4 (like T-Mobile) and band 17. So you have more of a chance. Bear in mind, that AT&T is considerably more expensive than T-Mobile and that they have roaming agreements with each other, where if you can't get any signal for telephony you'll roam off the other's network.
Generally speaking AT&T has more coverage, because it's an older more mature company with a more established infrastructure. T-Mobile is more of an upstart, but is rapidly expanding with a newer technology. Like I said in the previous post, explaining why your wife's Note got so much better reception, newer T-Mobile devices which support all 3 LTE bands (2,4, & 12) get better reception and probably twice the coverage than what is possible with the OPO.
I hope this helps explains things.
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I see from your profile that you reside in the UK. The OP doesn't list his, so I'm operating under the assumption that he's here in the states. My observations and comments in the post above yours, are strictly based on what I know about this device and with T-Mobile USA, as I'm unfamiliar with its operations in other countries.
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yes i do reside in the UK but bought my OPO in the US when i lived there back in 2013 and used it on Tmob. according to the website it works in the UK on Three and EE(tmobile/ orange). i use it on three and get 4g and 3g with no probs. i do like the tmobile usa plan of $40 unlimited all
Since stock 12.1 update, I've noticed mobile network keeps dropping and in return draining the battery quickly.
Thinking it's the update, I've installed custom 12.1 ROM, but the problem persisted.
With further searching, I've found fix here.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/cos-12-1-non-rooted-user-w-mobile-connectivity-issues.361244/
Goto APN settings, take note of current APN's.
Reset to defaults.
Copy previous APN values to currently selected APN.
Save then reboot phone.
If above doesn't work, try here.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/update-17-09-15-cos-12-1-yog4pas1no-bugs-discussion-thread.349560/
Scroll down to LTE issues and try the method described. Just note that it suggest deleting other APN, but I recommend against it because it can interfere with roaming.
byoungc said:
Since stock 12.1 update, I've noticed mobile network keeps dropping and in return draining the battery quickly.
Thinking it's the update, I've installed custom 12.1 ROM, but the problem persisted.
With further searching, I've found fix here.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/cos-12-1-non-rooted-user-w-mobile-connectivity-issues.361244/
Goto APN settings, take note of current APN's.
Reset to defaults.
Copy previous APN values to currently selected APN.
Save then reboot phone.
If above doesn't work, try here.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...2-1-yog4pas1no-bugs-discussion-thread.349560/
Scroll down to LTE issues and try the method described. Just note that it suggest deleting other APN, but I recommend against it because it can interfere with roaming.
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Thanks, so I am not the only one experiencing network connectivity issues. I do suspect this software related to some extent. Will try the fix and report back.
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Agent5150 said:
My OnePlus One is on latest cyanogen 12.1, completely stock and unrooted. I am noticing high battery drain on cell stand by (42%)
and of that 52% of the time there is no connection to carrier.
Is there a fix for this issue? My wife's Note Edge (SM-N915G on stock KitKat) has no signal issues with T-Mobile. but my OnePlus One show no connection most of the time. Is this a CM12.1 issue or is this a known issue with OPO and T-Mobile combination?
Appreciate the help.
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All phones can now get WiFi calling. Just download digits and sync it. Download it on your main driver and sync it. You can use the DIGITS to call using WiFi from any device using your number.
Trikkx said:
All phones can now get WiFi calling. Just download digits and sync it. Download it on your main driver and sync it. You can use the DIGITS to call using WiFi from any device using your number.
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Digits?
Anyone know if the US or international models have WiFi enabled calling? I am ready to switch from Sammy to Weiwei if it does. :silly:
No support that I can see on the international version (used in UK). VoLTE is there for Three here though (not EE).
No wi-fi calling, Wi-Fi calling is carrier specific and you're not going to find that on any unlocked phone
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No wi-fi calling, Wi-Fi calling is carrier specific and you're not going to find that on any unlocked phone
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Not entirely true. Many unlocked phones support T-Mobile WiFi calling.
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
He asked about Wi-Fi calling
gdeangel said:
Not entirely true. Many unlocked phones support T-Mobile WiFi calling.
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
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He asked about Wi-Fi calling on the mate 9, not band 12 or VoLTE which is what the link you posted is referring to, not even close to the same thing. The mate 9 does not support W-Fi calling, no way around it. Probably never going to have it unless they implement T-mobiles IMS settings. There are a few unlocked phones that support it, but really all that means is that they cooked t-mobiles settings into their rom, and if you read there are not really all that many that are actually certified by t-mobile mobile to actually work properly.
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He asked about Wi-Fi calling on the mate 9, not band 12 or VoLTE which is what the link you posted is referring to, not even close to the same thing. The mate 9 does not support W-Fi calling, no way around it. Probably never going to have it unless they implement T-mobiles IMS settings. There are a few unlocked phones that support it, but really all that means is that they cooked t-mobiles settings into their rom, and if you read there are not really all that many that are actually certified by t-mobile mobile to actually work properly.
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Yes the Mate 9 is not supported, but there are many "unlocked" phones that T-Mobile doesn't sell on that list that support WiFi calling on the network (i.e. Axon 7, Pixel, Nexus, LeEco S3, OnePlus, etc.). That was the point of my response......
ok, on my phone (MHA-L29/B197 EU version) i was able to set a link for W-Lan calling with Create Shortcut app! Search for "wi-fi calling" in app area "observe activities ->dangerous"!!
I am starting this thread, since there seems to be a lot of confusion around "newer" LTE bands, like Band 12 on T-Mobile, which apparently require a fully functioning and "approved" VoLTE phone to get reception.
There are various threads in device-specific forums, but they are not getting a lot of attention, and this is a significant enough problem that it should be more visible.
T-Mobile at this point has pretty fantastic coverage via the 700MHz Band 12 LTE network.
The only problem is that Band 12 requires the phone to be VoLTE "certified". The rumor was that phones could still connect to this band/LTE-network and send/receive data, but that they would fall back to alternative bands, even 3G or 2G, for phone calls. For a lot of people that would be "good enough" if not ideal.
Based on some recent testing, this is NOT CORRECT:
While phones may "sometimes" connect to Band 12 for data, the much more common scenario is apparently that the phone will disconnect from Band 12 almost immediately, or will refuse to connect to Band 12, and will instead default to an alternative LTE, 4G, 3G, or 2G connection.
In other words: even if you have perfect LTE Band 12 coverage (5/5 bars, or 100%), your "Band 12 capable" phone may instead try to connect to a really ****ty GPRS or EDGE tower that has barely any reception for the phone.
I recently encountered this with my Xperia X Compact while travelling: My phone would barely be able to connect to a T-Mobile tower with a GPRS data connection, while my wife's Moto G4 would get 5/5 or 100% LTE reception. Swapping SIM cards had the same result, so we know the problem rests with the phone.
Searching for "Available Mobile Networks" on my "band 12 capable" phone would show various T-Mobile 4G networks, but the phone would be unable to connect to them.
Talking to other Xperia X Compact owners, they have the same problem: the phone will sporadically connect to Band 12, but it is not a reliable connection (if the phone even connects) and it will (more likely) prefer other networks/bands/frequencies.
Based on the phone having the proper frequencies, I would assume that T-Mobile has some mechanism on some (or the majority of) towers where they disconnect non-VoLTE certified devices.
Anecdotally, I also had a similar issue with my previous phone - a Nexus 5x. The phone is even VoLTE certified, but when using Cyanogenmod/LineageOS, it would have really terrible reception, despite the location having almost perfect Band 12 coverage - LineageOS/CM does not (or had no) VoLTE support.
I have also tried "hacking" the X Compact to enable VoLTE support by adding the relevant lines to the build.prop and enabling the option under Settings and (*#*#4636#*#*) but this does not appear to make any difference.
A list of T-Mobile "VoLTE certified" phones can be found here:
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
Would be great if anyone has any suggestions how to resolve this, or force the phone to prioritize Band 12, but it would otherwise appear that the only solution is to get the phone certified by T-Mobile (so much for net neutrality and open access).
I'm using an Xperia X Compact and my home market only has band 12 lte and I can't connect to it. Which means I'm always in 3g or roaming and rarely have data in buildings. It's maddening because I will only buy Sony. I think they are the only manufacturer making attractive handsets and the build quality is light years beyond well marketed, poorly constructed brands like Samsung and LG. But regardless of anyone's choice of manufacturer, a device with a functioning 700 mhz lte radio should function just fine on the corresponding network regardless of where it was purchased.
Would certifying this device and enabling VOLTE be particularly costly to Sony? Correct me if I'm wrong but based on internal components this device should be capable of this ja?
I think it wouldn't hurt to send petitions to both the manufacturer and T-mobile USA. This certainly doesn't help Sony in a market they are seriously struggling in. It also isn't very uncarrier to favor certain devices over others.
The only reason I switched from Verizon was the ability to choose my device. That and the things John Legere was doing to change the industry. I believed in what he was saying. But right now it isn't working for me and likely many others. He should know. I can say firsthand that the guy answers his emails. I think we need to show both parties that this is worth their attention.
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I should mention that after multiple calls to T-mobile tech support I received a cryptic call very late at night from someone high up in tech support.
Long story short he at least admitted that even though it wasn't a t mobile device and even though it didn't support VoLTE, it should still connect to band 12 just fine. He also said that they were having problems with this sort of thing in my area and that it should be resolved in a month. He also said my IMEI was logged and I would be given priority in the matter. Whatever that means.
I should also mention that was a month ago and he didn't have an email to give me. He did however give me a phone number (probably just the department) that I need to dig up.
Could just be a bunch of fluff because they are afraid to lose customers. Then again he was from tech support not customer retention. And as I said t mobile does listen to its customers.
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I'm using an Xperia X Compact and my home market only has band 12 lte and I can't connect to it. Which means I'm always in 3g or roaming and rarely have data in buildings. It's maddening because I will only buy Sony. I think they are the only manufacturer making attractive handsets and the build quality is light years beyond well marketed, poorly constructed brands like Samsung and LG. But regardless of anyone's choice of manufacturer, a device with a functioning 700 mhz lte radio should function just fine on the corresponding network regardless of where it was purchased.
Would certifying this device and enabling VOLTE be particularly costly to Sony? Correct me if I'm wrong but based on internal components this device should be capable of this ja?
I think it wouldn't hurt to send petitions to both the manufacturer and T-mobile USA. This certainly doesn't help Sony in a market they are seriously struggling in. It also isn't very uncarrier to favor certain devices over others.
The only reason I switched from Verizon was the ability to choose my device. That and the things John Legere was doing to change the industry. I believed in what he was saying. But right now it isn't working for me and likely many others. He should know. I can say firsthand that the guy answers his emails. I think we need to show both parties that this is worth their attention.
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I should mention that after multiple calls to T-mobile tech support I received a cryptic call very late at night from someone high up in tech support.
Long story short he at least admitted that even though it wasn't a t mobile device and even though it didn't support VoLTE, it should still connect to band 12 just fine. He also said that they were having problems with this sort of thing in my area and that it should be resolved in a month. He also said my IMEI was logged and I would be given priority in the matter. Whatever that means.
I should also mention that was a month ago and he didn't have an email to give me. He did however give me a phone number (probably just the department) that I need to dig up.
Could just be a bunch of fluff because they are afraid to lose customers. Then again he was from tech support not customer retention. And as I said t mobile does listen to its customers.
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Since I did encounter this also on my Nexus 5x with LineageOS, I doubt that what T-Mobile told you is true. They must be actively blocking these non-certified handsets, since the phone should just attempt connecting.
So who do we need to appeal to? T mobile or Sony.?
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So who do we need to appeal to? T mobile or Sony.?
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Both. Maybe also complain to the FCC - I thought that carriers needed to provide open access to their network. Verizon got into hot water for not doing so ...
Does your compact ever connect to lte for a few seconds after a reboot?
I might try to force LTE and restart and see if that has any effect.
I just flashed the UK. T mobile networks work just fine. Well except lte/4g but that was expected.
POMF2K said:
Does your compact ever connect to lte for a few seconds after a reboot?
I might try to force LTE and restart and see if that has any effect.
I just flashed the UK. T mobile networks work just fine. Well except lte/4g but that was expected.
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It does connect sometimes but it then usually kicks down to Band 4 or a GSM band (HSDPA, UMTS, EDGE, or even GPRS).
I cannot find any info how to prioritize LTE bands, so I assume this is T-Mobile's band 12 cell tower's kicking the phone off when they notice that it is not VoLTE approved.
Interesting discussion on Howard forums....
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...rtphones-with-band-12-LTE-w-o-VoLTE-now/page2
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Interesting discussion on Howard forums....
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...rtphones-with-band-12-LTE-w-o-VoLTE-now/page2
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Interesting discussion though nothing new.
Yes, we know that Band 12 phones should be able to get a data connection, yet T-Mobile apparently actively disconnects them (or bars them from connecting), especially in areas where Band 12 would give you great coverage but there is no other coverage.
F Sony and F T-Mobile for this!
BTW: here is an article about the follow up model: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/08/sony-xperia-xz1-compact/
Please leave comments about Sony not getting their phones approved for VoLTE with T-Mobile and the phone therefore NOT REALLY WORKING with the carrier.
It would seem to me that the only solution to this problem would be either T-Mobile accepting a standard spec for VoLTE, they open source their code for VoLTE, or someone figures out how to implement VoLTE and trick T-Mobile to think it is an approved "whitelisted" phone.
Given that the T-Mobile network is getting worse and worse every day without Band 12 coverage, I find it really surprising that most people just don't seem to care. Does nobody use their phone outside of WiFi?
andTab said:
It would seem to me that the only solution to this problem would be either T-Mobile accepting a standard spec for VoLTE, they open source their code for VoLTE, or someone figures out how to implement VoLTE and trick T-Mobile to think it is an approved "whitelisted" phone.
Given that the T-Mobile network is getting worse and worse every day without Band 12 coverage, I find it really surprising that most people just don't seem to care. Does nobody use their phone outside of WiFi?
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There is a standard spec, the problem is the certification. It requires a certificate from T-mobile to be used by the phone, which is gained through certification. And if SONY is detecting T-mobile at the modem level then there isn't anything a ROM can do with or without a ROM. I had a Z5, but this drove me crazy so I switched to a Pixel.
I wouldn't expect this to change based on SONY de-prioritizing the US phone market, so either upgrade to a new supported sony phone or move on (shrug)
sovanyio said:
There is a standard spec, the problem is the certification. It requires a certificate from T-mobile to be used by the phone, which is gained through certification. And if SONY is detecting T-mobile at the modem level then there isn't anything a ROM can do with or without a ROM. I had a Z5, but this drove me crazy so I switched to a Pixel.
I wouldn't expect this to change based on SONY de-prioritizing the US phone market, so either upgrade to a new supported sony phone or move on (shrug)
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That can't be true.
I accept that T-Mobile may issue a certificate but that must be processed on the rom/OS/phone.apk level. Otherwise, every custom ROM on any certified phone would work. We all know that is not the case.
If it's the rom/OS/phone.apk though, why can't we hack a phone to work with TMUS / VoLTE?
I have an x compact and while it is the best device I have ever owned it is essentially unusable on T-Mobile or att.
andTab said:
That can't be true.
I accept that T-Mobile may issue a certificate but that must be processed on the rom/OS/phone.apk level. Otherwise, every custom ROM on any certified phone would work. We all know that is not the case.
If it's the rom/OS/phone.apk though, why can't we hack a phone to work with TMUS / VoLTE?
I have an x compact and while it is the best device I have ever owned it is essentially unusable on T-Mobile or att.
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Because the SONY modem firmware doesn't even attempt to negotiate VoLTE, which does *not* happen in user space. It is likely possible to hack the qualcomm modem with QPST to enable this, but without documentation and correct values one will not get very far.
sovanyio said:
Because the SONY modem firmware doesn't even attempt to negotiate VoLTE, which does *not* happen in user space. It is likely possible to hack the qualcomm modem with QPST to enable this, but without documentation and correct values one will not get very far.
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If it was the modem, then flashing a new system (eg custom ROM) should not make any difference.
I also have a Nexus 5x. With stock it is fantastic and uses VoLTE on T-Mobile. With LineageOS, it is useless on Band 12. SAME MODEM!
Experience therefore shows that it is the OS/System that somehow prevents this from working.
andTab said:
If it was the modem, then flashing a new system (eg custom ROM) should not make any difference.
I also have a Nexus 5x. With stock it is fantastic and uses VoLTE on T-Mobile. With LineageOS, it is useless on Band 12. SAME MODEM!
Experience therefore shows that it is the OS/System that somehow prevents this from working.
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The Nexus 5x is a different phone made by a different manufacturer with a different firmware scheme. You cannot compare them directly.
I noticed that the XZ1 Compact says right on the website compatible with t mobile band 12 and wifi calling... this is infuriating. It should be easy for them to patch the Xperia x compact.
I would have never purchased this if I had known. Especially since they apparently flashed an update to my old t mobile z3 that allows voice over lte and band 12.
Sony X Compact
sovanyio said:
There is a standard spec, the problem is the certification. It requires a certificate from T-mobile to be used by the phone, which is gained through certification. And if SONY is detecting T-mobile at the modem level then there isn't anything a ROM can do with or without a ROM. I had a Z5, but this drove me crazy so I switched to a Pixel.
I wouldn't expect this to change based on SONY de-prioritizing the US phone market, so either upgrade to a new supported sony phone or move on (shrug)
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It has to be on Sony, use the t-mobile BYOD app to check, I have a Huawei mate 9 that I just purchased, connects perfectly on band 12, VoLTE works just like it's supposed to. On a side note I went through three Sony phones before I bought this Huawei, had to return all three due to quality control issues, one had worst touches that made the phone unusable, one wouldn't pick up the SIM card, and the third wouldn't power on at all, thank good Amazon refunded my money on all three. They may have the Sony name on the phone, but they are still build by the lowest bidder in China and makes with Sony's name.
revjamescarver said:
It has to be on Sony, use the t-mobile BYOD app to check, I have a Huawei mate 9 that I just purchased, connects perfectly on band 12, VoLTE works just like it's supposed to. On a side note I went through three Sony phones before I bought this Huawei, had to return all three due to quality control issues, one had worst touches that made the phone unusable, one wouldn't pick up the SIM card, and the third wouldn't power on at all, thank good Amazon refunded my money on all three. They may have the Sony name on the phone, but they are still build by the lowest bidder in China and makes with Sony's name.
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See this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...cked-smartphones-and-yep-its-still-confusing/ It is up to an OEM to decide to go through this process per-phone. Since no US carrier carried the phone they didn't not bother spending the money or time to certify it. I loved the SONY design, but since they weren't supporting the market I had to abandon them for other phones.
New to this forum. Just got my Motorola One Hyper today. Am I able to make wi-fi calls on this phone? When I go to my Settings, Wi-Fi Calling is grayed out. If I long press it, Wi-Fi Calling comes up, but again, the screen is grayed out. It will not allow me to enable it. I am connected to my home wi-fi network, so that is not the problem. Thanks in advance.
It depends on your carrier, call customer service and ask if they use wifi calling. It works for me on T-Mobile on both stock and omni out of the box.
Beyond that, make sure you are updated to the latest stock firmware. The last update fixed volte and vowifi.
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It depends on your carrier, call customer service and ask if they use wifi calling. It works for me on T-Mobile on both stock and omni out of the box.
Beyond that, make sure you are updated to the latest stock firmware. The last update fixed volte and vowifi.
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Thanks for the response. After the phone went through all of its updating, the wi-fi issue solved itself. But I have another question. This phone was labeled as "International version" when I purchased it. I discovered that it's actually (RETLA), thus the instructions only came in Spanish. Will this be an issue using it in the USA?
Thanks
What's the model number?
Mine is xt2027-1
If it's xt2027-3, you might be missing some lte bands...
m666p said:
What's the model number?
Mine is xt2027-1
If it's xt2027-3, you might be missing some lte bands...
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Mine is also xt2027-1. Just out of curiosity, what are lte bands, and why are they important?
SeattleDDC said:
Mine is also xt2027-1. Just out of curiosity, what are lte bands, and why are they important?
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Go to the link below, it compares the bands different models of our phone operate on. If more bands are compatible with your network, your network reception will improve.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/motorola-one-hyper
Hi,
I have pixel 3XL and i want to enable Wifi calling.
I have searched in my phone setting ( system settings>network and internet>mobile network), as well as in the phone app, and this option does not appear to me.
My carrier has this feature and i want to use this feature, but i don`t have this option.
I also looked in the secret menu(*#*#46...) of phone info and i see the VoLTE provisioned and wifi calling provisioned are on grey.
Can anyone help me how to enable this feature ?
There appears to be known issues with Pixel phones not able to use WiFi calling with AT&T out it's MVNOs.
For example red pocket AT&T service and cricket wireless both don't seem to allow WiFi calling unless you do some tricks like updating IMEI in their records.
Hope to hear from other members since I'm experiencing same issue.
bandoba said:
There appears to be known issues with Pixel phones not able to use WiFi calling with AT&T out it's MVNOs.
For example red pocket AT&T service and cricket wireless both don't seem to allow WiFi calling unless you do some tricks like updating IMEI in their records.
Hope to hear from other members since I'm experiencing same issue.
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You speak here on the carrier, my carrier allow Wifi calling
AYTS said:
You speak here on the carrier, my carrier allow Wifi calling
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Agreed, and based on your response you are probably not with AT&T or it's MVNOs. Good luck and hope you can share once you find the solution.
bandoba said:
Agreed, and based on your response you are probably not with AT&T or it's MVNOs. Good luck and hope you can share once you find the solution.
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I have spoken with the carrier.
They support only Samsung and Iphone, but he said he enabled this option for me, but he said he does not believe it will work.
Does anyone have an idea if there is an option to enable it via the phone with some kind of bypass ?