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hi folks,
personally this is why i won t change:
I like micro USB, got tons of these cables
I like the way i change my battery so far no need to have a tray version
I like my 64 GB f**k 32
I Like my HD sound onboard, no need to see it as external module
I Like the manual video mode of my V10, stupid to not have added it to G5
I like my app tray
Won't upgrade because:
1) I love my screen size
2) Love the 2nd screen, its actually really handy.
3) Love the way I change my battery, and I'm fairly sure replacements are cheaper for the V10...
4) I love the wide angle selfie cam
5) Dat 64GB internal storage tho...
6) V10 looks sexier
Reasons I will consider upgrading:
1) Full Metal Body
2) Obviously, the LG and Friends modules and the cool way to swap batteries...
3) Probably easier to hold
4) Its newer (love new stuff lol)
5) Because it's not Samsung
6) Newer software
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youngpettyboi said:
Won't upgrade because:
1) I love my screen size
2) Love the 2nd screen, its actually really handy.
3) Love the way I change my battery, and I'm fairly sure replacements are cheaper for the V10...
4) I love the wide angle selfie cam
5) Dat 64GB internal storage tho...
6) V10 looks sexier
Reasons I will consider upgrading:
1) Full Metal Body
2) Obviously, the LG and Friends modules and the cool way to swap batteries...
3) Probably easier to hold
4) Its newer (love new stuff lol)
5) Because it's not Samsung
6) Newer software
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I likr the size and shape of my v10. G5 is ugly
I like 64 Gb internal.
I like my 16 Mp camera Dual back camera? why for?
I can root my H961N
and more....
why I won't?!??!
can't wait to dump this thing for the G5
I prefer phablet size!
It's too soon to upgrade.
I'm happy to wait and dream about the successor to the V10!
I love the battery tray thing though! *Click*
Here's hoping for the best of both worlds!
Sent from my pretty nifty brand new LG V10
I will get the G5 because:
1. I can.
2. If I'm going to be enslaved by Verizon and stuck with locked bootloaders/unrootable phones, might as well be the newest. First world problems, I know, right?
3. I don't pay for my phones or service anyway (my company does ), so might as well.
Won't upgrade because:
1) I don't consider it a upgrade. It's just newer.
I'm going to wait until CM13 is official and works on V10 and G5. To be honest I'd probably go with the G5 only because the battery is replaceable but not only that, the USB type C can be replaced if ever goes bad. This phone's battery can be replaced after charging. Maybe zerolemon makes a case that can give super extra battery life.
I'm really loving the fact that LG devices are supported by CM13 unlike Samsung. I admit I used to hate LG and never will forgive them for abandoning the G2X that I still hold on to. But if all works with CM13 as expected can't go wrong with v10 or the G5. Will wait for how development goes thats for sure.
if you buy the lg g5 from the v10 then you would be downgrading for sure, i love my v10 its got everything i need plus style the g5 just looks awful i mean come'on lg make a solid stylish product i mean like the g4 is awesome but a leather case that should not have been the default back casing you should have used the dura cover but anyways no go for the LG G5 ill pass
The only improvement on the G5 is the processor (lets see if it doesnt heat like the 10), otherwise: Ugly, fragile, smaller screen, no second screen, less memory, etc...
Reason why i dont upgrade
1. 64gb memory
2. screen to body ratio
3. second screen ( its been really useful for me as a power user its help me not wasting my time lolol )
4. there a feature that the G5 doesnt have
5. Same camera (G5 doesnt have manual control on video) although second camera at the back is 8mp wide
6. i really dont like the DAC came separately unlike V10 its implant
7. button layout the power button and volume T_T
8. no wide selfie camera (LG please)
9. i bet the assesories (feature) like dac and camera control cost something in which imo i dont like that kind of strategy
i think its better to wait for V20 or something newer in V series line this later year. the G5 is great but i mainly focus on camera and the camera on G5 is still the same as V10 and G4 (except second camera 8mp) in which not worth imo
Currently I'd stay with G4 and V10 because:
1. Both are rooted and bootloader unlocked (T-Mobile version).
2. Banner screen is pretty convenient.
3. 64GB (V10) internal storage is premium.
4. I like bigger screen.
5. I am not big on dual cam.
6. I am not big on full metal body.
I hope they don't mess up the next phone in the v series like the g5
nocomp said:
hi folks,
personally this is why i won t change:
I like micro USB, got tons of these cables
I like the way i change my battery so far no need to have a tray version
I like my 64 GB f**k 32
I Like my HD sound onboard, no need to see it as external module
I Like the manual video mode of my V10, stupid to not have added it to G5
I like my app tray
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Add to the list dual window. Why in the heck would the take away dual window.
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For me I like that LG is thinking out the box. But modules would be hard to carry. And the although G5 has the latest processor. Can't see it being much faster or smoother than this beast. And most importantly for me...5.3 Screen is wayyy to small. And can't live without the second screen. V10 is still the CHAMP!!!
I won't upgrade now because I don't see the G5 as a major improvement over the V10. I still have so far to go to max out the V10.
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The main reason I wont get a G5 because I just got the V10 three months ago
I won't upgrade because:
1) By the time V10 was released in Europe, we already knew G5 was coming out soon. V10 is an 2016 product in EU.
2) V10 is a stand-alone product, that does not compete in any series. This was important to me. I don't want a device that costs 700 euros only to find out a plus-version, or an XL-version or whatever upgraded version is coming within 2 months. I want a complete product, as is. Not something that I use for 4 months and then feel like **** when an upgraded version comes out which should've been the original.
3) G5 is ugly. There's no way around it. It's plain ugly. And the truth is, LG will lose to Samsung. I think it already has, if you compare pre-orders of g5 and s7 edge. A regular customer also will not be interested in buying stands and other add-ons that G5 is so eagerly promoting; they want a phone and they'll buy the rest separately - as standalone products. Not add-ons.
4) As much as I'm disappointed with V10, I won't be buying another LG product ever again. I said this 10 years ago when my brand new LG phone was ditched by LG and it wasn't going to be getting any updates at all, after 1 month of release. I can't remember what model it was, but I was pissed, as I had spent a lot of cash on it and made sure it was the top product right now. Just comes to show... The size and power of these devices surely has changed - LG's attitude towards consumers has not.
Same here, I simply don't like that ugly Asian style look of the G5. V10 is pretty hardware industrial design. But I'm disappointed, too. No updates, no communication with customers. I got the V10 because of the camera.
I love my v10 i wont change it with g5
So I am getting sick of the battery life of this device and charging twice a day just to get by... the QC helps but it isn't always a viable option for someone who is on the road/travels a lot. I am probably going to go back to my Moto G 2015 for the time being as I could get a full days use most of the time on a single charge and just selling my MXPE.
But now the question comes up as what to replace it with... Moto G 5th gen, Blu Pure XR, ZTE Axon 7 Mini, or ???
My requirements are simple, or so I think...
1) 4+ hours SOT, preferably 5+, in mixed signal environment of WiFi/LTE/3G and sometimes without the best signal strength (for reference, I currently get about 2.5 hours on MXPE)
2) 5.2"-5.7" screen with 1080p minimum resolution
3) Stock Android, "near" stock, or simple UI (no TouchWiz, EMUI, ZenUI, or other bloated UI) that allows easy use of replacement launcher
4) 64GB internal storage or 32GB internal+microSD
5) 3GB or more of RAM
6) Full AT&T network compatibility (GSM 850/1900 and LTE Band 2/4/5/12/17 and optionally 29/30)
7) Nougat or Marshmallow with a Nougat upgrade "guaranteed"
8) 3.5mm headphone jack
9) Dual band WiFi - 2.4 & 5Ghz
10) $300USD or less
Would be nice, but not essential...
1) Unlockable bootloader (implies root/custom recovery/ROM development community)
2) Front facing speakers
3) NFC
4) USB 3.0
Absolute no no's are Samsung, Asus, or Huawei/Honor devices.
What else fits these requirements that I am not considering?
I believe the one phone that comes to mind that would fit most of your requirements is the Axon. I took a break from the MXPE (when it flew off my roof and died a horrible death in a rain storm) and had the Axon 7 (normal size) for about a month. You will get NEAR 4 hours of SoT, a qhd screen, 5.5 inches, relatively light for metal body. Unlockable bootloader and decent dev for it, last I checked. Things that bothered me/ pissed me off were that DTTW was laggy and slow, the actual cell service seemed to be really bad, possibly because of the full metal body phone, and the biggest annoyance - no backlit capacitive buttons, so you were left sort of blind in the dark trying to hit buttons. There is also no way through the build.prop to enable the on-screen buttons to bypass the issue at night, last I checked.
LG V20 could be an option too since it has a bootloader unlock now, 3.5-4.5 hours of SoT. I think it has a bottom bezel speaker though, which is a little weird, and as always the LG software has complaints. The dev is good enough to get around that though.
I'm in the same boat as you though. I've been looking pretty hard to find a new phone and the V20 is the only one I am really considering right now.
Get the OnePlus 3T it meets all your needs I get easily 6 to 7 HR sot
datchico305 said:
Get the OnePlus 3T it meets all your needs I get easily 6 to 7 HR sot
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Would love to... tell me where I can get a new OP3T for under $300... That one is a hard stop requirement.
@xgerryx Same for LG V20 and Axon 7 (which never goes on sale, although the Mini does often), the $300 price point is a big deal
This phone has been a little disappointing. It's good, but definitely not great. It's a night and day difference from the Galaxy S3 I was using, but I wish I had held out a little longer for the SD 820 phones instead of buying in 2015.
It sounds like you've already got a pretty inclusive list for phones that are sold in the US and meet your requirements.
I just checked swappa, and if you're willing to go used, the OnePlus 3 is starting to get down towards the price point you're looking for. It has the same size battery as the MXP, and between the more efficient SoC than this godawful 808/810 generation and an FHD AMOLED I'd think you should get better screen on time out of it. It's a OnePlus so it has loads of good development, so you'll have all kinds of kernel/rom/tweaking available to really squeeze every erg out of it.
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This phone has been a little disappointing. It's good, but definitely not great. It's a night and day difference from the Galaxy S3 I was using, but I wish I had held out a little longer for the SD 820 phones instead of buying in 2015.
It sounds like you've already got a pretty inclusive list for phones that are sold in the US and meet your requirements.
I just checked swappa, and if you're willing to go used, the OnePlus 3 is starting to get down towards the price point you're looking for. It has the same size battery as the MXP, and between the more efficient SoC than this godawful 808/810 generation and an FHD AMOLED I'd think you should get better screen on time out of it. It's a OnePlus so it has loads of good development, so you'll have all kinds of kernel/rom/tweaking available to really squeeze every erg out of it.
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That actually could be an option... I will investigate further.
acejavelin said:
Would love to... tell me where I can get a new OP3T for under $300... That one is a hard stop requirement.
@xgerryx Same for LG V20 and Axon 7 (which never goes on sale, although the Mini does often), the $300 price point is a big deal
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If you happen to be SUPER interested in the V20, I have seen some go for like 310-320 on Swappa in good to mint condition. You gotta hound the seller though and keep track of it all damn day for when the price drops. Not an awesome experience but I'm waiting for the same thing myself.
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If you happen to be SUPER interested in the V20, I have seen some go for like 310-320 on Swappa in good to mint condition. You gotta hound the seller though and keep track of it all damn day for when the price drops. Not an awesome experience but I'm waiting for the same thing myself.
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I'm not really interested... TBH, my experience with non-Nexus LG Android devices has been... well... lets just say less then wonderful.
Although I would have to say that the LG enV from years ago probably ranks up there as my favorite phone of all time, back when you could actually get DAYS of usage out of a cell phone on a single charge. I remember I would charge it twice a week. lol
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I'm not really interested... TBH, my experience with non-Nexus LG Android devices has been... well... lets just say less then wonderful.
Although I would have to say that the LG enV from years ago probably ranks up there as my favorite phone of all time, back when you could actually get DAYS of usage out of a cell phone on a single charge. I remember I would charge it twice a week. lol
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Yea I agree. After my terrible experience with the buggy LG G4, I'm very skeptical about going back again. At the same time I am running out of companies to try out! Haha. Gotta circle back eventually, especially on Verizon.
xgerryx said:
Yea I agree. After my terrible experience with the buggy LG G4, I'm very skeptical about going back again. At the same time I am running out of companies to try out! Haha. Gotta circle back eventually, especially on Verizon.
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NEVER AGAIN!!! I refuse to drop $140 plus taxes and fees (realistically $160) for the service level I get now for $72 per month. Plus the limitations on devices, I would have to buy at least one new phone and/or go under contract. Nope, not happening. (Can you tell I have a grudge against Verizon, lol)
I would look around swappa for a OnePlus 3 or 3t it's worth it no bugs lag free and monthly updates it's already on nougat 7.1.1 and the beta builds they offer are great as well and development is great lots of greats ROMs and kernels and unlocking bootloader will not void warranty
TBH...I think you will have a hard time meeting all of your requirements right now. The market looks pretty dismal which is very unfortunate. I personally will hold out a little longer. I'm really looking hard at what Nokia/HMD are coming up with and hoping their roadmap for US devices includes a mid range device soon. So far their line up seems decent and if they are true to their word about expedient updates for Android, and they will sell devices with unlockable bootloaders at decent prices, I'll be sold.
moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
unitz0mbie said:
moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
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Like @acejavelin stated, Samsung is not an option, and I agree with him. Yes they have great hardware for the most part, but a less powerful processor running vanilla, our near vanilla Android will run just as well considering the lack of heavy handed UX. I will admit the phone looks great hardware and looks wise, but I personally don't like the look and feel of Samsung TW.
unitz0mbie said:
moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
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Sammie's are to bloated... Every Samsung devices we have ever had has been problematic... Hope you enjoy yours though but I would never spend that kind of money on a phone.
I have a moto g5 plus as well, its pretty good. It's fast and smooth. Screen and camera are good too, but obviously not as good as the X style.
Yes mxpe battery sucks. I have to charge 2-3 times a day and am not even a heavy user. I know its more than your actual budget but better wait, save a bit more and probably the price will drop also and go for a OP 3T.
i know your problem man.. but why don't you wait for a nougat update?? why not? maybe they might fix up the battery drain issue!
there are barely very less phones which have dual front facing speakers.. market has got very saturated.. all look for flagship but they just don't think that having a good speakers is also a part of flagship project!
as per my personal opinion... this phone is just the best phone ive ever used (till 2015) but in upcoming era you will see more and more features
i will recommend you to wait and not hurry up to get a phone...
if you need a pure stock surely get nexus but just wait for new nexus phone.. maybe they might consider it as a flagship and the value might be cheap??
anyways if you're just asking for all the requirements my opinion (AXON 7) not just only for dual front facing speakers but also for the processor(sd 820),storage(64gb,6gb ram) expandable ovbio (256gb)
plot twist: has hybrid sim XD
but im legit that it'll be upgraded to android 'O'
but it cost around $350
think man.. public reviews are also good
it meets all the requirements but is as costly as mxpe
Sagar_1401 said:
i know your problem man.. but why don't you wait for a nougat update?? why not? maybe they might fix up the battery drain issue!
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Nougat can't "fix" our battery issue... Radio and display panel are hardware issues and that's where 75% of all battery drain is. It isn't even issues, it's just how much power they use normally. The SD808's radios are terribly inefficient, and the display panel uses more power than some small towns. If you think Nougat is going to noticably improve active use time, your kidding yourself.
To be honest, I might just pull my old Nexus 5 out if the drawer and switch to it... The battery life can't be much worse.
The sound aspect is less important. FF speakers are nice, but as long as I can hear a YouTube video in an average room and turn the ringer up enough u don't care.
I bought the MXPE as an upgrade to my G 2015 and it was on sale for under $250, and for the most part it is, I just didn't realize how bad the battery was, it is easily half of my G.
I got Axon 7 after X and can't be happier. I've had the A7 since August. Has the front speakers i wanted, nice beautiful Samsung screen. Battery is definitely better then X. Software was buggy at the beginning but they have improved it a lot. Axon 7 has been getting a lot of updates, doesn't mean it'll continue, we were the 1st ones to receive 7.0 with the exception of Google devices, and we are the only ones so far (afaik) to receive 7.1.1 with also the exception of Google devices.
It has its flaws but i love the phone. For the money you can't beat it. It's on sale now on newegg for $330.
Okay guys am a bit torn. I've an LG V30+ and am thinking of switching to the Op6. I mainly use the cell for surfing the net and an occasional casual gameplay. Listening to music is awesome in the V30 but the camera leaves something to be desired. The output is bland.
And LGs update sucks. Still stuck in 7.1.2
Should I jump the gun?
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Okay guys am a bit torn. I've an LG V30+ and am thinking of switching to the Op6. I mainly use the cell for surfing the net and an occasional casual gameplay. Listening to music is awesome in the V30 but the camera leaves something to be desired. The output is bland.
And LGs update sucks. Still stuck in 7.1.2
Should I jump the gun?
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Sure, sounds like you want this. I'd just sell the v30+ on Swappa and use that money to pay off most of the op6.
Done. Switched.
Lol
I want to switch to lg v30+
I had lg v30+ weeks back. Returned it and bought OnePlus 6. For the reasons like stock OS,6gig ram and mainly for the developer support op6 will have like bootloader unlocking, roms. Because the v30+ variant which i bought is officially not supporting bootloader unlocking itself.
While at the same time, i preferred few things in lg over op6.
Design, looks, weight, always on display, hdr display quality, wide angle camera, and also notch less design.
Things i didn't feel change in both are performance, multitasking, battery.
I went from V30 (no plus) to Op6. Very happy with Op6 so far. Last V30 update broke wifi for me, so I agree with poor update statements.
The only thing I miss is that the fingerprint sensor is also the power button. Unit is on and unlocked in one step.
Face unlock is working pretty good, but then again I'm one ugly s.o.b. And easy to recognize :silly:
The V30+ 2as awesome. The looks, the cameras, esp. the sound quality on my Hd600s was mind boggling.
But am a flashaholic and the V30+ didn't even allow unlocking of bootloaders. Still I did some modding like complete full screen with gesture navigation. Naptime for saving battery and got the GCam.
Was a good phone, but I need the liberty of android to truly enjoy Android. If I was to be tied so tightly, I'd rather take an iPhone 8. My whole family is tied to iPhone ecosystem. Am the odd duck who swears by Android. ?
I have a V30+ and put an order for the 6 over the weekend, pretty impulsively, still not entirely convinced it was the right move. Aside from the guilt associated with this being the 5th phone that I'm paying full price or more for (like paying premium to purchase prior to wide availability) in about 2.5 years:
- I don't take pictures often at all so I don't really care about cameras, but when I do, I found wide-angle to be super convenient, so that'll be missed.
- Yes I still have a headphone jack but definitely going to miss the quad DAC.
- Battery life and screen on time on the V30 was by far the best I've ever had. I'll have to see how OP6 holds up, but anything less would be tough to get used to.
- I would've missed wireless charging...except I never used it with the V30 (unlike my previous phones which supported it), because of the battery lasting all day.
- I've read a few complaints about the vibration motor being bad. They were very good in my last couple of phones, so I'm a bit concerned here.
- Always on display, for the time/battery/notification information being constantly available without any user input or action
- 1440P. Honestly I find the quality of the panel to be much more important than the resolution but would've preferred paying a bit more for the extra pixels.
- Waterproofing, although I recently chipped the corner so I don't know if it would still hold up. Definitely not something I'd risk anyway so not much lost there.
But still, considered the following (for all of 10 minutes before buying..):
- The near stock Android. I was pleasantly surprised at my V30's performance and lack of lag even after 6 months of use, considering the UI is on the heavier side. Buuut can't beat Nexus/pixel/op level of fluidity.
- Faster updates. Although I imported my V30 from Korea because I didn't want to wait for North American release, and updates were actually pretty damn fast as a result. I don't see this continuing now that the G7 is out and V35 due out soon.
- 8 GB RAM vs. 6 GB.
- Going from the Mi Mix (which was full of its own issues) to the V30 I really didn't like coming back to the top bezel. While a notch is hardly the ideal solution for me, maybe it could be a decent compromise (really hoping the upcoming Vivo Apex is trash...otherwise I may be in for further trouble)
- Gesture control. Opinions seem to be fairly mixed on this. But I'm already using a 3rd party gesture control app on my V30 with the navbar hidden, so looking forward to using something similar baked into the OS. I don't like Android P's implementation of it (isn't the whole purpose so you can get rid of the navbar and more of the screen can be opened up for other use?) so I'm hoping OP6 will stick to its current implementation or at least provide the choice to keep it when P is rolled out (probably not)
- No always on display, but def like how the ambient display handles incoming notifications.
And I'm pretty sure the entire point of this post was me trying to justify another impulsive purchase lol. But maybe it'll help someone.
After many years, and a lot of looking around - I think we finally have a new replacement for the LG V20. I just got it not long ago, so I still need to use it as my daily phone.
I have already rooted the phone with Magisk which there is already is an unofficial guide to and still setting it up, so is the small German company of Shift as they are still working on the software - they have 2 stocks in production, Android 10 Google version and Android 10 without Google.
The phone has the 3 essential as I call them, removeable battery, Micro SD and Jack phone! Although it is somewhat costly compared to a used LG V20 phone - but if anyone wants an upgrade on the CPU and Graphic, Internal storage, RAM and so forth, this is the way to go.
Ordering the phone should come quickly now, as the wait time should be over as they have been sending them out for the last couple of months - so there should not be any big wait time for it now.
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I was looking on the Fairphone 3 and Shift 6mq - I actually ended up just going for another used LG V20, but because of the nonsense of Corona I could not get a new LG V20 from Hongkong and the phone was never sold in Europe. In any case I had to bite the bigger price and the Fairphone 3 was disqualified because of only 64GB internal, I knew I had to have an upgrade on that as I am easily filling it with stuff. The only option although pricy was the Shift6mq - But I needed a new phone as the old LG V20 was dying more and more each and every day. So I ordered it a good amount of month ago, and now it is finally arrived.
I have just installed the Light version of there System without Google and rooted it - I have yet to use it in daily life but it looks good. I have benchmarked it against the LG V20 and not surprisingly it beats it with ease. There are of cause some negative things as well, battery can be somewhat tough to get out of the phone, I used some sandpaper on the bottom of the batteries that seemed to do the work to easier taking them out. They surely stick in the mobile when they are in there, which is not a bad thing, but a little less strong would have been nice. Again, it seems to work with some fine sandpaper, to ease this issue. Maybe it will work itself out with use over time, but... Well... Sandpaper seemed to work
I also have a Camera issue it seems, whereas the front camera is pointing somewhat upward, but it seems to be just my unit and not the norm, there could be 2 solutions to this and have to work that out at some point. But the Camera is working so it is not a big biggie, just annoying.
The internal speaker does seems somewhat weaker then the LG V20, but the phone jack, does well with my speakers, so no problem there.
That is the first impressions I have with it... I think this will be my next phone for the next 5 years, just some stuff to sort out and move all my applications over to it. I though you LG V20 users would like to know that there is now an alternative, with greater CPU and Graphics and Internal memory available, would love to see more people coming over to grow it up in the right direction and helping each other!
And supporting a small company, although not perfect in any way, at least it still stands on some sanity, with a degoogled system and the 3 essential important things for a mobile.
You don't need the plastic cover either, you can use the protection cover only without any issues - if you do not need the payment thing that is in it, personally I never used it myself.
If anyone have any questions in regards of it, just shoot! But I am still new to the phone - so I have yet used it as my daily driver, but I'm getting there! Just had to sort out the rooting and see what could do, break it down and such. It was many hoops to do, but now that I know, I can help others if you have any issues on those part
Sadly a lot of German, they have a forum and they speak mostly German - but, we can get an English Community as well around it I am sure, and help each other. Beside there are tools for translating
Dearly regards
- Darkijah
P.S you get a Screwdriver with your phone, as they have focus on taking it apart and fixing it yourself and such. So the Phone is designed with that in mind. No Charger as most have chargers already to use, but a Screwdriver
Although it seems to charge as "fast" or slow as the LG V20, around 2:30 hour as far as my testing goes for now. Sadly no external chargers for batteries like the V20 had, at least not for now. I had 2 of these chargers for my LG V20 and have used them a lot. Shift may have something up there sleeve for it, but time will tell.
Will this work on Verizon?
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Will this work on Verizon?
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No idea, don't even know what it is... Some kind of streaming to TV?... It's standard Android 10, so... if it is an Application for streaming I would think so, but really, have no idea.
It's a cell phone service in the USA. (along with AT&T, Spring, TMobile, etc.)
What cell phone services does this phone work on?
These are the phone's supported bands:
LTE Frequenzbänder: FDD-LTE B1 / B3 / B7 / B20 / B28, TDD-LTE B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
3G Frequenzbänder: UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA: B1 / B2 / B3 / B5 / B8, CDMA (800, 1900, 2100Mhz), TD-SCDMA (1900, 2000Mhz)
T-Mobile LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71) is out. AT&T LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 14, 17, 29, 30, 66) is out. Verizon LTE (2, 4, 5, 13, 46, 48, 66) is out.
The only LTE band supported by any US carrier is Sprint on 41 and one band is not anything to safely rely on long-term following the T-Mobile merger.
Ahhh I have no idea @baldybill but @Snakecharmed seemed to give you the answer. Not so knowledgeable on those areas. But we are all here to learn, I would think
It is already looking good, have installed the Light version and gotten it rooted - still need to move my applications over to it. But it is progressing
I did play a racing game, although I really should not - but it runs perfectly fluent compared to the LG V20 which is not a surprise. Even in the highest setting it seem to run more smooth then the lowest on the LG V20, but really somewhat unfair because of the 4-5 year differences between them. The screen itself also looks better, clear and crisp, although I have seen some issues other places when the screen is all white. But Shift are are still working on the 2 stock systems so... But the game itself was crisp and clear and overall the game was running fluently on the highest setting.
I don't think I will look much back to the LG V20 when I get this up and running as my daily driver. Although, I would like to try out Lineage on my LG V20 if possible, version 10, I am thinking it might get me closer together to have the same usability compared to each other... But maybe not...
Dunno, in any case it is looking good and promising! Finally an upgrade from the LG V20, a phone with the 3 essentials. How hard it can be for companies to do sane things these days.
exFAT is at the moment not supported by Shift 6mq but support for it should be coming! Something about some worldly stuff needed to run through... Can't remember the details. But it is on the way as I understand it. At the moment it only runs FAT32, which is kinda annoying as that only supports 4 GB files.
Anyway... As said they are still working hard on the software so... 2 systems, google and ungoogle versions.
Fully serviceable phones seem to be more popular in Europe than in the US. The Shift6mq seems to be the most advanced option I've seen so far in terms of hardware. The Snapdragon 845 is a couple of generations old, but the total package apart from audio hardware is a clear improvement over the V20. However, if I had to pick the #1 reason why I still use the V20 daily, it's the second screen.
There's no real equivalent to the Shift6mq in the US. The best option I've seen here is the Teracube 2e and between the 720p screen resolution and the MediaTek A25 chipset, it kinda sucks.
Okay, I just dropped my phone from 10-15 cm while sitting on the toilet flipping it around, although having the silicon *Or something of that kind* protection I did not think much about it really... But... My screen broke. I have never ever experienced an issue with my LG V20, actually after 4 years the screen still seems like new, and it has been dropped a good amount of times.
Yet one single minor small drop - and I now have a broken new mobile which screen is broke. I though it was the Gorilla glass at first with 2 lines of breaking but... Investigating further it seems the Gorilla is just fine - "just" the screen behind it, that is broke. And investigating further the line starts from the bottom left corner and goes up at the side, and in the middle of the screen it goes out in 2 lines. There is a minor thing as well over it in the left side.
Beside the none colors and weird colors it makes, I am pretty sure the screen is broke. I saw this guy breaking mobiles, and this seem to be the same screen issue that he gets when Jerry I think his name is, brakes the mobiles.
*Sigh* And I did not even get to use the mobile as a daily driver before it failed on me :/ I was trying to find an app that could get my applications unto it, after now being rooted and on the ungoogled version of Shift. I first tried an open source app which could not restore the backed up applications on A10, I was then at the point of it happening trying with Titanium Backup, but it needed you to push with every single Application, which actually was what did me in and made me drop it. Usual I would have laid it down once until finish, but here you had to wait for installing the app and then push again.
I think this is one of these Free features that most likely is not in the Pro version - but knowing not if the app works, I wanted to test it before maybe buying it.
Anyway... My new fresh phone from Germany is Broke... *Sigh* Terrible just Terrible. Well, at least moving forward, but if this is standard that the screen dies by so little... Well, hopefully it was just a faulty item, although I am afraid that it might not be. What is the point of Gorilla protection if the screen just blows up by itself without even touching the surface of the Gorilla glass. Seems to me that it must have been the vibrations overall that killed the screen, as it just hit the Silicon cover protecting it as it should.
Whatever the case, my new phone is RIP for now! Well, I guess it is good I got the new used LG V20 that is rooted and running! At least I can focus on that for now, it still needs some fixing, yet it is my daily driver and would be until getting the other up and running with all the apps and setup which I was closing into. But now really hit into a biggie with the new phone. Oh well...
Dearly regards
- Darkijah
Well, there was a screwdriver with the mobile and... I've just looked into repairing the screen. It does look like it won't be that hard, I hope... The whole idea with the Shift phone was that one could repair it by them self, although hopefully the screens normally don't break so quick. It could easily become expensive if one needs to buy a screen every time one drops it. Hopefully I had a faulty screen, or they might need to investigate into better screens. Like that was just way to easy to break.
Okay Carsten from Shift wanna have a look on the mobile - I will send it back and hopefully he can get something out of it. Nice to see they care about their products
Hopefully this is not a normal thing, and if it is - then I hope they get it corrected. Like 4 years without a cracking screen on my LG V20, and then just a small and first drop of the new - it ruined Only one other time have I ruined a phone, when I was in Israel and I dropped my Samsung Note 2 directly hitting a stone with the screen faced down. But it was still working at least. Actually that was the outer protection screen which broke, and not the screen itself.
Who knows, might have had a weak screen of production - in any case, they wanna have a look at it.
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better everything compaired to the v20
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can it be rooted?
other then that this might be added to your list of alt's?
A bump for anyone in a similar boat casually looking for a V20 successor and having to consider tradeoffs:
Although I'm still currently not looking to replace the V20 as my daily phone, if I had to buy a phone that has at least been announced in 2021, it would be the Sony Xperia 1 III. The main tradeoff is a non-removable battery.
Everything else is top tier in specs and it retains the removable storage and 3.5 mm jack, has USB-C 3.x, and doesn't compromise on CPU, 5G connectivity, or screen, camera, or audio quality like many of these alternatives. I generally don't care about price because I usually don't buy new phones anyway and I would hypothetically wait out the Xperia 1 III for at least half a year after release if I were to get one. The only brand new phone I've ever bought was the LG G4.
I've been getting tired of watching Asus screw people over on either the removable storage or 3.5 mm jack with both their Zenfone and ROG flagships, so I'm glad Sony finally included both in a contemporary flagship when everyone else has been allergic to these features.
Obviously, everyone has different priorities for what features are must-haves when moving on from the V20, but a non-removable battery isn't a dealbreaker to me as long as replacing it doesn't cause permanent cosmetic damage to the exterior. Rootability isn't very important to me anymore either after seeing how my Galaxy Tab S4 hasn't made me miss root much thanks to Blokada and YouTube Vanced.
i have no idea if this is a good option as i am not intelligent enough to read German
Shift Shop | SHIFT6m
SHIFT6m
shop.shiftphones.com
if anyone here is looking for a v20 replacement can you translate this to 'MURICAN so a simple guy can understand?
i am wanting to know if it is rooted, can it be rooted, the battery replacement (4240mah) options such as who makes the original and can i get more for replacements or upgrades, and...the rest i can gather from the wiki page
Shift6m - Wikipedia
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zeroderp said:
i have no idea if this is a good option as i am not intelligent enough to read German
Shift Shop | SHIFT6m
SHIFT6m
shop.shiftphones.com
if anyone here is looking for a v20 replacement can you translate this to 'MURICAN so a simple guy can understand?
i am wanting to know if it is rooted, can it be rooted, the battery replacement (4240mah) options such as who makes the original and can i get more for replacements or upgrades, and...the rest i can gather from the wiki page
Shift6m - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
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Do you expect to use this device as a phone in the US? Because the exact same thing I mentioned about the 6mq's compatibility with US carriers applies to the 6m.
haha, that's hilarious. Was just looking at that phone for a replacement, too.
The screen issue is that the v20 had a p-oled, LGs plastic substrate led (the amoleds have a glass layer over the led plates). I wonder who is actually going to take up that in the business now. Presumably LG will be making more of these gorgeous screens (..last one was in the Velvet, I guess?). But the amoleds are a bit more expensive to make, while they are typically even more expensive to purchase (meaning: better margins). So that's going to push them out of the market, just like the lithium polymer batteries were for .. gods.. 15-20 years. There's still phones with organic batteries - that you can't change - that are sold right now, in extremely expensive phones.
So it's a bit difficult to find an actually good phone that will last a bit right now.. Kind of wondering if that will ever actually change, unless someone who knows about tech, and also has enough money to just say **** it, starts making actually good phones - and sell them at the price-range they actually cost to make. Xiaomi, or some other more domestic Chinese brand might be the best bet, to be perfectly honest..
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Presumably LG will be making more of these gorgeous screens
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LG just announced it will not be making the mobile phones anymore. Done. Lol, like you said, someone said "**** it", just that they stopped making phones. I think it is sad.
Don't buy the Shift phone 6mq.
The screen broke again and got lots of issues overall with it. Back on an old "new" LG V20 phone non rooted.
I had so much hope for this but it sucks.
- Darkijah
Jesus is God Almighty said:
Don't buy the Shift phone 6mq.
The screen broke again and got lots of issues overall with it. Back on an old "new" LG V20 phone non rooted.
I had so much hope for this but it sucks.
- Darkijah
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Thanks for an update on the Shift phone. THe LG V20 is truly a special phone, it has everything I could ask for, though not 100% executed with perfection (for example, LG was very innovative to include the "notched" 2nd screen, however I'd rather it be uniform... be it LCD, or nowadays everything is OLED).
3 things that the LG v20 has that we probably won't see emphasized again are: (1)IR blaster(great to use as a smart remote!), (2)user replaceable battery(just swap and go, so convenient... and when the battery is no longer holding charge, it's just so easy to put in a fresh battery... no pulling the phone apart or dealing with resealing, etc.), (3) amplified quad dac 3.5mm jack(not just any 3.5 jack, but a high performing one!).... of course there is the expandable memory too...
Such a beast of a phone that we may not see come back again... unless some wealthy and passionate crowd funders came together to re-release such a phone(in addition to modern and updated SOC's, I'd like to see upgraded cameras... but the fundamentals need to remain: 3.5mm quad dac, user replaceable battery, IR blaster, expandable storage).
So after trying to get unto a new mobile I am now trying to get back to the LG V20.
I bought a German Shift 6mq mobile and used days, weeks and even months to set it up - hoping they would fix all the issues I sadly just ran into more. 2 Screens broken in less then 10 months time. Compared to never breaking my LG V20 Screen.
In any case I ended up ordering a LG V20ds, a new charging cradle - and some bigger batteries I am yet to get.
I would not bother with rooting any Android phone overall, they tend to get sick and it takes hours, days and weeks to sort things out - and sadly new issues usually comes up as time goes.
So back to the good old LG V20 with its many own issues - but at least it has and can do most of the things I want.
What a waste of time, but sadly I could not get a new LG V20 because of the beginning Corona nonsense, yet I should have been more persistent and tried more places.
Anything above Android 8 is not workable, as Google have tried to close features to record calls down. So... There is really not any other mobile I can see using then the LG V20 because of this.
I got the 990ds version although somewhat more expensive, it has 2 slots for simcards like the 990n version which later was my first version.
I saw something about the 990ds to me slightly better in speed then the 990n - I think it was in regards of 4g which I don't use much, but some times.
Incredible that one would sit and have trouble finding a mobile that one wants - they pretty much all gone nuts with there tyrant nonsense of design and software and jailing the user pushing ads and spying.
Well... So... If you are on the LG V20 that is on its last and wonder where to go, you can still get a new LG V20 and use the LG Program to easily move your data from one to the other - and get some of the stuff needed for it like cradle and batteries - although you need to look around on the internet. Perfine 6400mAh with silicone case was the best I tried for the LG V20, size, weight and power. I did finally find a place where they had them, although we will see if they get here
- Darkijah
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