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G930F on T-Mobile? What's your baseband/software-build?

edited to add: Before someone boots this post because of a reason like this: "This subsection is for T-Mobile US (G930T), you should ask in the general S7 forums."
These kind of questions are also asked over there in general S7 forums and the response is CRICKETS! I suspect that is because those forums are not T-Mobile forums. See? /rant
The G930F is the International version of the S7. It's the hardware model with the Exynos processor, with the radio hardware to run just about every mobile band under the sun, BUT comes with MANY different baseband/software combinations out there in the world, so they are not all alike, and some may work well on T-Mobile, and some may not.
Therefore, this is a difficult question, I guess, because few people running these phones realize that one G930F is not necessarily like the next, because of differing baseband versions, and differing softwares (that may or may not allow things like wifi calling or volte).
What baseband version numbers and software build numbers are folks running on their G930F, and how well is it working for you on T-Mobile?
My baseband is G930FXXU1BPJJ (which seems to be India ??) and the build number is MMB29K.G930FXXU1BPLB (Brazil? these regions are according to samsung-firmware.org). This is the Android 6.0.1 that came with it when I purchased it from Newegg in California about a year ago. I seem to get LTE connection in most places in Atlanta, and speed tests are okay (30Mbps),
.... but I think there may be a much better baseband fit for T-Mobile USA. But who knows?
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Galaxy S7 shows SM-G930T at the back, SM-G930F under settings, QS 820 chipset

Hi,
I got myself a refurbished Samsung Galaxy S7 (flat) but after small examination I realized that there are a lot of inconsistencies, After some research I didn't find out a clear scenario from anyone else so I decided to share with all you so that may be one can help me figuring this one out.
So at the back of the phone its written SM-G930T, while when opening About Device under Settings the model number is SM-G930F. But also everywhere there is a taste of Verizon software (example under Access Point Names there is one APN which is disabled with name "LTE - Verizon Internet with APN VZWINTERNET).
Antutu results range around 132420 to 135500 and it reads the following under My Device:
SM-G930F
Basic Info:
Brand: Verizon
Model: SM-G930F
Device: heroqltevzw
Board: msm8996
Hardware: qcom
Android: 6.0.1(64bit)
Renderer : Adreno(TM) 530
Resolution: 1440 x 2560
Rear: 12.2MP
Storage:
RAM 3307MB
System Storage: 22.83GB
CPU
Architecture: Qualcomm Kryo LP
Type: 64-bot
CPU Cores : 4
CPU Clock Range: 1190.4 ~2150.4MHz
CPU-Z also state the same like Antutu.
What I want to know is if there is anyone else with situation like mine, and how to go about when you want to update to Nougat or which ROM should I consider using in any case of failure, say bricking this device.
Thank you in advance.

Jonius said:
Hi,
I got myself a refurbished Samsung Galaxy S7 (flat) but after small examination I realized that there are a lot of inconsistencies, After some research I didn't find out a clear scenario from anyone else so I decided to share with all you so that may be one can help me figuring this one out.
So at the back of the phone its written SM-G930T, while when opening About Device under Settings the model number is SM-G930F. But also everywhere there is a taste of Verizon software (example under Access Point Names there is one APN which is disabled with name "LTE - Verizon Internet with APN VZWINTERNET).
Antutu results range around 132420 to 135500 and it reads the following under My Device:
SM-G930F
Basic Info:
Brand: Verizon
Model: SM-G930F
Device: heroqltevzw
Board: msm8996
Hardware: qcom
Android: 6.0.1(64bit)
Renderer : Adreno(TM) 530
Resolution: 1440 x 2560
Rear: 12.2MP
Storage:
RAM 3307MB
System Storage: 22.83GB
CPU
Architecture: Qualcomm Kryo LP
Type: 64-bot
CPU Cores : 4
CPU Clock Range: 1190.4 ~2150.4MHz
CPU-Z also state the same like Antutu.
What I want to know is if there is anyone else with situation like mine, and how to go about when you want to update to Nougat or which ROM should I consider using in any case of failure, say bricking this device.
Thank you in advance.
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Also I should mention that I'm not in US, and this phone is unlocked and I'm using gsm simcard and it works perfectly.

Boot into download mode to find the actual model number.

Hello, I actually have a similar example with my SM-930A. This phone is also factory refurbished and I as well had some suspicions. I RAN my IMEI# against imei.info.com to see if it was blacklisted. It gave me SM-G930F (SM-G930A). The problem is G930F is the international Exynos model and G930A is the USA Qualcomm model. They have different chipsets with different cores. I get mixed readings with different HW info apps including CPU-Z as if it's a hybrid between the two. The further I investigated, I found Verizon apps, IPhone apps and a suspicion that the firmware for ATT was flashed onto an International model but is using swapper and linker to hide it. I know it sounds crazy.

Youngster82 said:
Hello, I actually have a similar example with my SM-930A. This phone is also factory refurbished and I as well had some suspicions. I RAN my IMEI# against imei.info.com to see if it was blacklisted. It gave me SM-G930F (SM-G930A). The problem is G930F is the international Exynos model and G930A is the USA Qualcomm model. They have different chipsets with different cores. I get mixed readings with different HW info apps including CPU-Z as if it's a hybrid between the two. The further I investigated, I found Verizon apps, IPhone apps and a suspicion that the firmware for ATT was flashed onto an International model but is using swapper and linker to hide it. I know it sounds crazy.
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The hardware is NOT the same -- firmware is incompatible:
I don't think you can successfully flash the North American Qualcomm based firmware onto the Exynos hardware or vice-versa. At best it would give you an error, at worst it could brick the device. They are two completely different processors on different motherboards, and use different other hardware as well (power regulation chips, radio chips, etc).
What may have happened is that someone found a way to overwrite the model number and/or possibly the 3 character Samsung CSC (customer service code) code(s) in your refurbished phone. If the hardware says it is Qualcomm processor, then it probably is a North American hardware version of the S7.
Handy free hardware information tool for Samsung smartphones:
I use a free hardware information tool called "Phone Info *Samsung*" written by vndnguyen which is available on the Google Play store. It shows not only the phone model number, but the CSC codes, the date of manufacture, hardware, and all available sensor data. You might want to install it and see what that app finds. It has a few ads, but they are unobtrusive. Hint: disable notifications for it if you don't want to get "tips" from the author.
Discussion of hardware in North American models:
Note that the hardware for all the North American models is identical (with the exception of one Canadian carrier that uses the European/Asian version of the phone), and they all have the same Qualcomm processors and chipsets. All that differentiates them is the firmware and CSC code that is flashed onto them. The NA motherboards all have "SM-G930V/P/R4/A/T" printed on them. The cellular radios on the NA motherboard include the GSM radio bands used in North America and they also include a radio for the CDMA bands used in North America. IIRC, the GSM bands cover most but not all of the European/Asian GSM radio spectrum, so the phones should work outside North America, but possibly won't get quite as good reception as the European motherboard would get. One last comment about the NA version of the phone: If the phone has been carrier unlocked, it is possible to flash any of the various NA S7 carrier's firmware or the factory unlocked G930U firmware onto it. I have personally tested this. Flashing the G930U firmware onto a NA phone is a great way to get rid of all the carrier-installed "bloatware" apps, leaving only the Samsung interface and apps and the Android apps. However, flashing different firmware onto a phone does NOT carrier unlock the phone -- I found that out by trying it (the phone booted up, but when a non-original-carrier SIM was installed, it asked for and required a SIM carrier unlock code).
Discussion of hardware in European/Asian models:
The European/Asian version of the hardware is, as you mentioned, different than the North American version, and uses a Samsung manufactured Exynos processor and related chipset, and other hardware is different as well -- including the antennas, loudspeaker, and charging daughterboard. Interestingly, the European/Asian motherboards have "SM-G930FD SM-G930F/W8" printed on them, possibly indicating that the difference between the G930F and G930FD motherboards is, similarly to the NA motherboards, only the firmware and CSC code -- the actual hardware may be the same (other than the G930FD SIM tray which is capable of holding a 2nd SIM card OR a Micro-SD card). My understanding is that the European/Asian models do NOT have the capability to connect to CDMA networks -- and only will work on GSM networks. Again, IIRC, the GSM radio spectrum is slightly different in Europe/Asia and North America. However, I do know that the G930F and G930FD models will work in North America on the GSM networks, again, possibly with some reduced reception due to band differences. I have personally tested this by putting a US T-Mobile SIM into a G930FD phone I repaired and it worked well.
I have 3 questions for you folks in Europe or Asia that repair the G930F/G930FD phones:
1. Would you please clarify whether or not the motherboards for the SM-G930F and SM-G930FD are actually identical and only the firmware and CSC codes (and SIM tray) differentiate the two?
2. If a European/Asian phone has been carrier unlocked, can a different version of the European/Asian firmware be flashed onto it?
3. Are there factory unlocked versions of the firmware that have no carrier "bloatware" apps for the SM-G930F and SM-G930FD? If there are, please identify what they are, and supply links where to find them. I am not talking about custom builds -- but rather genuine Samsung firmware that is not carrier specific.
I hope this helps to clarify things a bit.
Philip

phreich said:
Note that the hardware for all the North American models is identical (with the exception of one Canadian carrier that uses the European/Asian version of the phone), and they all have the same Qualcomm processors and chipsets. All that differentiates them is the firmware and CSC code that is flashed onto them.
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Sorry to be "that guy" but the US models are Qualcomm-based while all Canadian SM-G930W8 models are Exynos-based, so there is no "North American" model for the S7.
As far as I'm aware, booting an S7 into Download mode is the closest thing to a foolproof method for determining the true model of the motherboard in the phone, no matter what the label, Android, or any system info apps tell you.

Hello guys, following up your comments, here are the results of phone info *Samsung*

audit13 said:
Boot into download mode to find the actual model number.
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Details under download mode are as follow
ODIN MODE (HIGH SPEED)
PRODUCT NAME : SM-G930V
CURRENT BINARY : Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS : Official
FAP LOCK : ON
QUALCOMM SECURE BOOT : ENABLED
RP SWREV : BE(2,1,1,1,1) K1 S3
SECURE DOWNLOAD : ENABLED

Sm-930v is the Verizon s7: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/galaxy-s7-verizon/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ot-guide-verizon-s7-s7-edge-sm-g930v-t3411015

audit13 said:
Sm-930v is the Verizon s7: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/galaxy-s7-verizon/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ot-guide-verizon-s7-s7-edge-sm-g930v-t3411015
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So just to make sure I understand your well, this phone has to be a Verizon variant even though at the back of the phone under glass is written SM-G930T?

Does the imei on the box or other labels match the imei when dialing *#06#?
Based on what is shown in download mode, the motherboard is from a Verizon s7 sm-g930v.
Bootloader from Samsung info screen begins with g930v too.

Jonius said:
So just to make sure I understand your well, this phone has to be a Verizon variant even though at the back of the phone under glass is written SM-G930T?
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All firmware is the same. I have the "t" varient, now running the "a" varient for Oreo, but I always run the "u" varient cause less bloat. Someone made a detailed post earlier, might have been to long to read.
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audit13 said:
Boot into download mode to find the actual model number.
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That's not true at all. I'm running the att Oreo beta on cricket that was branded sm-g930t. Download mode shows it's the "a" varient now. When running "u", you bet it also says "u", same with any firmware, if I flash "v", it'll say "v"

Sorry if my posts were not clear. I was referring to USA s7 models with Qualcomm processors. Canada and other parts of the world are using Exynos versions.
From the original post, Antutu reports the phone as being a sm-g930f and, as far as I know, there is no 930f for the USA: https://www.sammobile.com/devices/galaxy-s7/specs/SM-G930F/.
I wanted the OP to confirm the model # before flashing files (either for Qualcomm or Exynos) and a quick way to do that is in download mode.

Okay,
Thank you everyone for your contributions so far, I am actually getting the picture of what I have with me.
These are the information I have with this phone and from your input the finding so far:
The phone got SM-G930T at the back hence T-Mobile variant
Under Download mode it says this phone is Verizon variant
Under some settings like APN there are some bits of Verizon like Verizon APN - Hence Verizon variant
Under About Phone, the model number is SM-G930F ( I believe the one who flashed this phone they knew they wanted it to end up in international market, hence they found a way of making the model number looks like its an international model (SM-G930F)
The details of IMEI under imei under imei.info gives this result: G930F GALAXY S7 (SM-G930T) - Which gives more questions than answers.
What I believe right now is this is Qualcomm variant phone with Qualcomm chipset.
Now I really wanna know if which latest ROM I can flash to get the latest possible Android version in here! Say Android 7.1.1 or Android 8, etc. But something stable because this is now my main and only phone I got.
Thanks again for all your inputs and contributions.

If I were in your situation, I would flash the latest stock Verizon ROM since the model number is sm-g930v.
Before flashing, I recommend testing the phone to ensure it functions with your carrier. If it doesn't, I would contact the vendor.

Jonius said:
Okay,
Thank you everyone for your contributions so far, I am actually getting the picture of what I have with me.
These are the information I have with this phone and from your input the finding so far:
The phone got SM-G930T at the back hence T-Mobile variant
Under Download mode it says this phone is Verizon variant
Under some settings like APN there are some bits of Verizon like Verizon APN - Hence Verizon variant
Under About Phone, the model number is SM-G930F ( I believe the one who flashed this phone they knew they wanted it to end up in international market, hence they found a way of making the model number looks like its an international model (SM-G930F)
The details of IMEI under imei under imei.info gives this result: G930F GALAXY S7 (SM-G930T) - Which gives more questions than answers.
What I believe right now is this is Qualcomm variant phone with Qualcomm chipset.
Now I really wanna know if which latest ROM I can flash to get the latest possible Android version in here! Say Android 7.1.1 or Android 8, etc. But something stable because this is now my main and only phone I got.
Thanks again for all your inputs and contributions.
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If you think it's amerian latest is 7.0 with 8.0 coming next month. I'd recommend the "u" firmware, less bloat and less warning messages, like hitting airplane mode is one tap, not two cause a warning pops up

audit13 said:
Does the imei on the box or other labels match the imei when dialing *#06#?
Based on what is shown in download mode, the motherboard is from a Verizon s7 sm-g930v.
Bootloader from Samsung info screen begins with g930v too.
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audit13 said:
If I were in your situation, I would flash the latest stock Verizon ROM since the model number is sm-g930v.
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I'm not using Verizon line, I'm using Tigo line (Africa/Tanzania), so I'm not sure what Verizon ROM will do to this phone, whether will render this phone useless or because its now working then after flashing Verizon ROM it will continue working even though the SIM card is not Verizon SIM?
audit13 said:
Before flashing, I recommend testing the phone to ensure it functions with your carrier. If it doesn't, I would contact the vendor.
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How do I test the phone to ensure the functionality with my carrier?
I think my situation is a bit complicated, there is no vendor, no warranty, I can do whatever I want with this phone, the only problem is whatever I do I have to be careful and sure that I won't brick this phone as it is my only phone right now.
All I want to do is to flash it with the latest android version

Put a sim card in the phone and make a call, receive a call, turn on wifi, turn on data, send a text, receive a text, take a picture, take a video, and insert an SD card.

Can someone suggest the right ROM which is latest and stable for my phone? Which is official but without any carrier bloatware?
The one I'm having right now got no carrier bloatware, only inactive verizon APN, and also got Samsung Apps which is okay with me (After start using S Health I found it a little bit interesting).

Jonius said:
Can someone suggest the right ROM which is latest and stable for my phone? Which is official but without any carrier bloatware?
The one I'm having right now got no carrier bloatware, only inactive verizon APN, and also got Samsung Apps which is okay with me (After start using S Health I found it a little bit interesting).
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Go to sammobile, write your phone model and get the lastest firmware available, select the default one without bloat and don't forget to disable frp lock before flashing.

Is G970F/DS really worth it compare to G970U1?

I wanted to order the international G970F/DS but they sent me the U1.
Apart from the lack of double sim support, it is now around 70€ less in the color i want.
Should I really get the G970F? I didn't really understand what are the real differences, i read here someone saying "I wish I would have bought the G970F", but at the same time it seems (I'm in France) than the U1 is working? And than updates are available here (the topic).
I really don't know what to do, usually i choose the best but now i'm a bit confused if i will really loose some functions if i keep the U1 or not.
Thanks if you can help

Apart from the different SOC(Exynos vs Qualcomm), you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on your model since it has the Qualcomm SOC, and only Exynos International models are unlockable. So you won't able able to install custom ROMs. But I hear the Qualcomm SOC is faster and more efficient so that's a plus.

Qualcomm soc is better in almost everything, speed, less Heat, better battery, better for gaming, also some people say that the camera processing it's better too

In what will custom rom help me?
I actually don't need much, but i'm affraid an USA version unlocked, won't work very well in france for some reasons.
I heard several things such as : - wifi calling not working - sometimes reception problems EVEN if bands are the same - sometimes google app store france not working - sometimes unpossibility to download some apps (like local apps) - samsung pay not working..
I'm not sure of anything and that's why I wanted to know here if you have more knowledge.
Maybe this model need manual updates all the time, and a lot of tweaking, in order to just work in france with a french simcard? (compare to the 970F were we can find local operators custom roms..)

Question SM-S9080 (China) bootloader inquiry

I see that this specific model (Released in China) I believe has support for custom ROM's one would assume the bootloader can be unlocked which would be quite surprising since this device carry's the snapdragon chipset which is used in US/CA models and is not able to have the bootloader unlocked. If possible could someone with a device please confirm as these variants are actually 300$ cheaper than the US/CA models and other Global variants. I can't imagine there would be any significant differences otherwise aside from the firmware would be China based and I might need to flash my own CSC package.

You can check in Settings - Developer Options - OEM Unlocking to see if your bootloader can be unlocked.

I'm aware of how to check, when you are yet to own the device then someone else would need to provide the insight. It's not exactly fesible to check another country's device and I'm sure the return policy is a bit harder.

You seem to be confused. You stated "the bootloader can be unlocked which would be quite surprising since this device carry's the snapdragon chipset which is used in US/CA models and is not able to have the bootloader unlocked". Just because the SoC is a Snapdragon doesn't mean the bootloader can't be unlocked, they've been making them for years. I own the Snapdragon device with an unlocked bootloader. So if you know how to check if you can unlock the bootloader why ask anyone else if it's possible? Don't be surprised if you can't flash different firmware, SM-R908N is an outlier but it can utilize Custom ROM's.
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Not sure why you can't confirm price differences between the Korean and US devices, here's the appropriate links.
Korea
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varcor said:
You seem to be confused. You stated "the bootloader can be unlocked which would be quite surprising since this device carry's the snapdragon chipset which is used in US/CA models and is not able to have the bootloader unlocked". Just because the SoC is a Snapdragon doesn't mean the bootloader can't be unlocked, they've been making them for years. I own the Snapdragon device with an unlocked bootloader. So if you know how to check if you can unlock the bootloader why ask anyone else if it's possible? Don't be surprised if you can't flash different firmware, SM-R908N is an outlier but it can utilize Custom ROM's.
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I'm pretty sure op knows how to check and knows the price difference since they mentioned it. They are asking someone that actually has the device to confirm

Solace50 said:
I see that this specific model (Released in Korea) I believe has support for custom ROM's one would assume the bootloader can be unlocked which would be quite surprising since this device carry's the snapdragon chipset which is used in US/CA models and is not able to have the bootloader unlocked. If possible could someone with a device please confirm as these variants are actually 300$ cheaper than the US/CA models and other Global variants. I can't imagine there would be any significant differences otherwise aside from the firmware would be korean based and I might need to flash my own CSC package.
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I will confirm that the Korean snapdragon note 20 ultra could be unlocked.
Rom support was slim though. Most did not explicitly mention the N model and since more people in the world are unlocked on exynos, most of the support was for that chipset.
Also the fact that snapdragons are locked in NA is because of the region not the chip it self. Other regions with them aren't bootloader locked.

pcriz said:
I'm pretty sure op knows how to check and knows the price difference since they mentioned it. They are asking someone that actually has the device to confirm
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OP would be better served if he/she included a Model Number. The specific properties are the same regardless. As everyone is aware price fluctuates depending on the seller.

varcor said:
OP would be better served if he/she included a Model Number. The specific properties are the same regardless. As everyone is aware price fluctuates depending on the seller
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Op isn't asking about the price though. Who knows where they are buying from.
Also the Korean models typically only have one model number. I think the same is true this year as well.
I figured the best person to answer their question is someone that probably knows they have a Korean model or someone with first hand experience with the Korean model.

Are you sure Korean model comes with SM-S9080?

donkeyman1234 said:
Are you sure Korean model comes with SM-S9080?
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Accuracy is not releveant but the firmware was on a few places listed as Korean model.

varcor said:
OP would be better served if he/she included a Model Number. The specific properties are the same regardless. As everyone is aware price fluctuates depending on the seller.
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The SM-9080 is the model number... If I bought and received something other than the device listed it would be of no charge according to provincial law. The 909B is also an option which is the EU enyox model or 908W Canadian Snap dragon. The 908W cannot be unlocked however the root/bootloader unlock specifies 0 in the title which I'm assuming is the suffix to 908 and possible.
Snapdragon and bootloader unlock would be the best of both worlds as performance is better and does not suffer from idle drain issues. The cost is also about 20% cheaper on sale.

pcriz said:
I will confirm that the Korean snapdragon note 20 ultra could be unlocked.
Rom support was slim though. Most did not explicitly mention the N model and since more people in the world are unlocked on exynos, most of the support was for that chipset.
Also the fact that snapdragons are locked in NA is because of the region not the chip it self. Other regions with them aren't bootloader locked.
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I'm, just going to yolo one one see what happens. Worse case is I might need to update the CSC, the modems firmware should support the same frequencies to be "international/global" The s8+ I have was the int version and worked just fine.
Some rated specs do differ ever so slightly between the EU and NA model such as the post processing used for images and throughput for the NIC used onboard but is negligible.

varcor said:
You seem to be confused. You stated "the bootloader can be unlocked which would be quite surprising since this device carry's the snapdragon chipset which is used in US/CA models and is not able to have the bootloader unlocked". Just because the SoC is a Snapdragon doesn't mean the bootloader can't be unlocked, they've been making them for years. I own the Snapdragon device with an unlocked bootloader. So if you know how to check if you can unlock the bootloader why ask anyone else if it's possible? Don't be surprised if you can't flash different firmware, SM-R908N is an outlier but it can utilize Custom ROM's.
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Not sure why you can't confirm price differences between the Korean and US devices, here's the appropriate links.
Korea
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Thanks, generally MFG do not deviate from designs much due to costs involved. If SN by design was bootloader locked one would expect variants to be the same. I think Korea had enyox models in the past too.
The site used was pda plaza (google it) which lists various models and if you are buying new is usually cheaper than vendors, amazon and other places. I saw a 512gb ultra as low as 1500 for the ugly green. Considering we get ****ty perks for buying a phone new it does not make sense to buy from samsung.com unless you want sky blue or something.
Also I'm unsure as to why you linked the store pages, retailers listing unlocked is carrier specific, not bootloader.

Oop, sorry all the 9080 is China, 908N is Korea, editing main post.
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Same as in HongKong, I would just flash their firmware, likely better overall.

I am in Taiwan, for your reference.

Solace50 said:
Thanks, generally MFG do not deviate from designs much due to costs involved. If SN by design was bootloader locked one would expect variants to be the same. I think Korea had enyox models in the past too.
The site used was pda plaza (google it) which lists various models and if you are buying new is usually cheaper than vendors, amazon and other places. I saw a 512gb ultra as low as 1500 for the ugly green. Considering we get ****ty perks for buying a phone new it does not make sense to buy from samsung.com unless you want sky blue or something.
Also I'm unsure as to why you linked the store pages, retailers listing unlocked is carrier specific, not bootloader.
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I linked the Samsung websites so you could compare official Samsung pricing. As stated there are many different retailers with various offers. I also asked for the model number knowing the SM-9080 isn't available in Korea which you've since updated. The S21 Ultra in Korea is the Exynos variant which only lasted 1 year, they've now reverted back to Snapdragon. Of the 3 SM-9080's available I would recommend the Hong Kong (CSC - TGY) but if call features are a priority the Taiwan variant (CSC - BRI) is the best option. Stay away from the China variant, it's a mess. Plus one should always ask a retailer which CSC they are offering, they don't always sell the same variant for the region they are based. You could purchase a China variant from a Taiwan retailer but you won't know it until it's in your hands. Yes, they will mislead and lie just to make a sale. Firmware for the 3 variants are interchangeable however it's usually not a good idea to swap, firmware is Home CSC specific and the Home CSC can't be altered plus that will affect updates as well. All 3 are bootloader unlocked however there aren't many Custom ROM's for Snapdragon devices. Goods luck!

varcor said:
I linked the Samsung websites so you could compare official Samsung pricing. As stated there are many different retailers with various offers. I also asked for the model number knowing the SM-9080 isn't available in Korea which you've since updated. The S21 Ultra in Korea is the Exynos variant which only lasted 1 year, they've now reverted back to Snapdragon. Of the 3 SM-9080's available I would recommend the Hong Kong (CSC - TGY) but if call features are a priority the Taiwan variant (CSC - BRI) is the best option. Stay away from the China variant, it's a mess. Plus one should always ask a retailer which CSC they are offering, they don't always sell the same variant for the region they are based. You could purchase a China variant from a Taiwan retailer but you won't know it until it's in your hands. Yes, they will mislead and lie just to make a sale. Firmware for the 3 variants are interchangeable however it's usually not a good idea to swap, firmware is Home CSC specific and the Home CSC can't be altered plus that will affect updates as well. Good luck!
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The hardware is the same as HK, only the firmware differs and can be flashed. The recommendation makes zero sense. Call features are CSC based and I doubt much differs across the globe these days especially for major regions. That would be false that you cannot change the CSC, the whole aspect of root/unlocked bootloader is to modify system/firmware partitions or flashing with odin.

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The hardware is the same as HK, only the firmware differs and can be flashed. The recommendation makes zero sense. Call features are CSC based and I doubt much differs across the globe these days especially for major regions. That would be false that you cannot change the CSC, the whole aspect of root/unlocked bootloader is to modify system/firmware partitions or flashing with odin.
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What do you mean it makes no sense? I've stated if you want call features buy your regions (CSC) device. I never said your CSC couldn't be changed, I've stated your Home CSC can't be changed. Have fun trying to figure everything out, we're done.

For those who also may care, I took the time to actually research things before speculating nonsense.
So the primary difference between the models is 5G support as apparently the 5Ghz bands are not supported in the firmware for the 9080. Given the 9080 can be bootloader unlocked it is a similar situation to the Galaxy S4 release across US/CA where you could buy the US model and flash a Canadian modem in order to gain support for carriers in CA. Likely the same can be provided for 5G support with a few hex edits to the existing modem or flashing one from another region considering the same hardware is used, however this would still need to be tested.
Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in Canada?
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This would ultimately save people hundreds of $ along with providing the SN variant bootloader unlocked to various individuals and not end up being a slave to bloatware and poorly designed roms.

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I am in Taiwan, for your reference.
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Thank you for the most useful post in the thread.

Samsung Galaxy XCover 6 Pro - are there different versions?

Hi all, I'm asking here because there is no dedicated subforum for XCover 6.
So, I'm planning on buying Galaxy XCover 6Pro but I'm getting confused if there are different version of it out on the market? I've noticed that shops in my country (Poland) mark phones they are selling using these three different product numbers:
sm-g736bzkdeeb,
sm-g736bzkdeee,
sm-g736bzkd
with the first one (EEB) being called "Enterprise Edition" appearing in most of stores while the offical samsung.com store lists XCover 6Pro with "EEE" product number. Neverthless google shows up a samsung page for the "EEB" model too.
https://www.samsung.com/uk/business/smartphones/xcover/galaxy-xcover6-pro-sm-g736bzkdeeb/
https://www.samsung.com/levant/business/smartphones/xcover/galaxy-xcover6-pro-sm-g736bzkdeee/
So i checked the specs, in stores and on these samsung pages and they all appear to be the same XCover 6 Pro, 6GB 5G phones with Dual Sim in black colour.
So here is my question. Are they really the same phone or there is some difference that's my eye is missing?

The difference between the two devices you have named, is that one is made for the German market (EEB) and one is made for the eastern European and Swiss/Austrian markets (EEE).
There may be some issues with things such as samsung pay if you are using a device outside of its region but overall the device should work fine either way.
With the previous model (G715FN), I was able to flash to my local firmware without issue and all bands worked flawlessly as well as all localised features such as samsung pay. Unfortunately once this is done, you will not receive OTA updates any longer as it recognises your device has been modified. This may be because I tripped knox doing all this.
The only other thing to look out for is that you aren't buying a device that has been locked to a given carrier, or requires a sim from that carrier for activation.
Again, there's usually ways around this but you don't need to complicate your life like that.
If you are able to buy locally, surely they can give you some assurances that the device will work with your local providers?
There is no difference in specs, bands etc, it's just localisation support and operator specific configurations to worry about.
Samsung generally include all international MBN files in their modem config files so it's not such a huge deal these days as long as you can successfully register the device for use.

bandario said:
The difference between the two devices you have named, is that one is made for the German market (EEB) and one is made for the eastern European and Swiss/Austrian markets (EEE).
There may be some issues with things such as samsung pay if you are using a device outside of its region but overall the device should work fine either way.
With the previous model (G715FN), I was able to flash to my local firmware without issue and all bands worked flawlessly as well as all localised features such as samsung pay. Unfortunately once this is done, you will not receive OTA updates any longer as it recognises your device has been modified. This may be because I tripped knox doing all this.
The only other thing to look out for is that you aren't buying a device that has been locked to a given carrier, or requires a sim from that carrier for activation.
Again, there's usually ways around this but you don't need to complicate your life like that.
If you are able to buy locally, surely they can give you some assurances that the device will work with your local providers?
There is no difference in specs, bands etc, it's just localisation support and operator specific configurations to worry about.
Samsung generally include all international MBN files in their modem config files so it's not such a huge deal these days as long as you can successfully register the device for use.
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Thanks for detailed explanation!

Anyone tried root with Magisk?

bandario said:
Anyone tried root with Magisk?
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I have one I got recently, but have not used Magisk. Doesn't one have to access bootloader to do that? Which is my question: Anyone have an unlock for the bootloader?

Yes. There's instructions Here