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Any one on the same boat as me and on the verge of just doing whatever the hell you want with a phone you bought (and Own) legit with cash...
Fug samsung man :laugh:
lqrt said:
Any one on the same boat as me and on the verge of just doing whatever the hell you want with a phone you bought (and Own) legit with cash...
Fug samsung man :laugh:
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If you trip knox, welcome to the family. Lol
Like you, I done it last night. Samsung can do one! Probably my last Samsung phone. Unless they sort they sort it out
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I tripped mine worry free, as you said, we own the device and can do as we please with it. Do I regret it? Nope not at all.
I am also going to trip it but my question, how to get backup of data and apps wo root? any links suggested?
m_carleone82 said:
I am also going to trip it but my question, how to get backup of data and apps wo root? any links suggested?
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I would suggest Helium, doesn't require root but you need to run the desktop application before you can backup.
Really simple and easy
It's blasphemy they sell the devices at a premium and we are not allowed to use as we see fit without any repercussions.
When would rooting ever make phone calls weak , buttons malfunction or whatever hardware related issue man..
@carleone82 if you are not rooting why do you need to trip the counter?
m_carleone82 said:
I am also going to trip it but my question, how to get backup of data and apps wo root? any links suggested?
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Uhm rooting does not wipe anything. Why don't you just root then only backup.
Tripped mine aswell XD after 2 days of purchase
Thats it! I had enough as well. I think I will be rooting today.
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Tripped mine a few days ago.
Tripping mine now too ;D
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Wooooo root for everyone !
First thing i installed was viper audio, xposed framework, wanam xposed, maximize widgets and samsung multiple widgets.
Feels so much better already
Well, I got my Note3 N9005 (replacing my Note II) in beginning of October. Within an hour after I got home it was rooted with Chainfire's CF autoroute.
Do I regret - No Way, despite that the Knox flag is tripped.
I need the feeling of having full control of my phone and run Titanium Backup Pro, App Quarantine Pro, Root Explorer, File Manager Explorer, Nandroid Manager/Online, Mobile Odin Pro and of course SuperSU Pro.
In addition I use Philz Touch Recovery CWM which has just become available for the N9005. The rest of the phones OS is fully stock.
The tripped Knox flag doesn't really bother me. It's just a kind of a certificate to run Knox and I don't need to run that at all. I do see the point in Knox related to corporate security with a lot of employees running around with unsecured phones on the inside of the company firewall. Not to forget about all the corporate information on each phone totally unsecured. That's where the Knox container comes in handy.
As far as I understand, warranty is not an issue (atleast within EU) if Knox flag is tripped. If the phone is able to boot in Download Mode - just reflash (PC Odin) it with latest stock software. If you have a backup on the external SD card or your PC (you should), do factory reset before you send it back for warranty repair or replacement.
I have a hard time believing that it is possible to reset the Knox flag without replacing a chip on the MB or the MB itself.
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As far as I understand, warranty is not an issue (atleast within EU) if Knox flag is tripped. If the phone is able to boot in Download Mode - just reflash (PC Odin) it with latest stock software. If you have a backup on the external SD card or your PC (you should), do factory reset before you send it back for warranty repair or replacement.
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Could You tell me more about this varranty in Europe? I have my Note 3 for Few days but after changing from my rooted LG 4x Hd I feel bad not being able to greenify or freeze many unwanted apps
LOL, i tripped mine from day 1.
mouzam said:
Thats it! I had enough as well. I think I will be rooting today.
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If you are only rooting then you wont be tripping Knox. Just FYI.
daraj said:
If you are only rooting then you wont be tripping Knox. Just FYI.
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Not strictly true. - It depends on the root method and which bootloader etc he has.- But yes your post does have truth in it.
Kontal said:
Could You tell me more about this varranty in Europe? I have my Note 3 for Few days but after changing from my rooted LG 4x Hd I feel bad not being able to greenify or freeze many unwanted apps
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Look for EU regulation (1999/44/CE)
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i trip it at the third day! Know 0x1, X-Note (Perfect Rom) Rooted, i hope i will not need any Repair at this 2 years
Hi, i need a way to get only root access, without unlock, with all stock and avaiable ota, there is a way to do this?
I did it with my tf300t with one-click-transformer-root, and i did same thing with my note 2 lte with framaroot and ota rootkeeper.
I need a way to not lose warranty, and have just root access.
Thank's in advice for answers!
anthraxx90 said:
Hi, i need a way to get only root access, without unlock, with all stock and avaiable ota, there is a way to do this?
I did it with my tf300t with one-click-transformer-root, and i did same thing with my note 2 lte with framaroot and ota rootkeeper.
I need a way to not lose warranty, and have just root access.
Thank's in advice for answers!
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You have to unlock the bootloader to root. You can relock it afterwards if you want to
Edit, day 2 of 7 with the internet working
anthraxx90 said:
Hi, i need a way to get only root access, without unlock, with all stock and avaiable ota, there is a way to do this?
I did it with my tf300t with one-click-transformer-root, and i did same thing with my note 2 lte with framaroot and ota rootkeeper.
I need a way to not lose warranty, and have just root access.
Thank's in advice for answers!
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You can't root without unlocking the bootloader. If you ever have to exchange it under warranty, you can reset the tamper flag and relock the bootloader, they'll be none the wiser.
This same question was asked today. Learn to use search.
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I had read somewhere, that google accept rooted device in warranty, is real?
anthraxx90 said:
I had read somewhere, that google accept rooted device in warranty, is real?
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If you need to warranty it just flash the factory image and lock. Simple, easy
jd1639 said:
If you need to warranty it just flash the factory image and lock. Simple, easy
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And if i brick it? My last bricked device was not recognized in anyway by any pc, no adb, no fastboot, just api, but can't fix it.
(and I have not broken it doing stupid things, just installed clockworkmod app from playstore and flash cwm for my device, what's result? after some day i read that cwm dev, put the wrong files in tf300t section, and the app flashed tf101 files)
anthraxx90 said:
I had read somewhere, that google accept rooted device in warranty, is real?
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No they do not.
Stupid, was using ROM manager to begin with.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
Stupid, was using ROM manager to begin with.
good day.
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i think stupid is who publish an application without notifying error that brick and make unusefull a device bought for 700€
regardless from the user experience.
Plz next answers , follow the question, not personal comment.
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Edit, day 2 of 7 with the internet working
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LOL! (Yes, I got the reference)
anthraxx90 said:
i think stupid is who publish an application without notifying error that brick and make unusefull a device bought for 700€
regardless from the user experience.
Plz next answers , follow the question, not personal comment.
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if you think modifying your device keeps you safe from bricking it, you need to stop rooting your phone and stick to stock.
people make mistakes and your blind following makes you look ignorant and uninformed.
Zepius said:
if you think modifying your device keeps you safe from bricking it, you need to stop rooting your phone and stick to stock.
people make mistakes and your blind following makes you look ignorant and uninformed.
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really, I am in the modding since I bought the first galaxy young, and all the developers warn worthy of respect and do not take responsibility for damage to devices, if we do not take resposability we do not public on play google, on google play store a child may install and tap 2 buttons, that is how I publish a tread "Root your galaxy Note 2," and i put inside the kernel of Commodore64, before you speak of ignorance think of ignorance with which you answered without even knowing what we're talking.
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really, I am in the modding since I bought the first galaxy young, and all the developers warn worthy of respect and do not take responsibility for damage to devices, if we do not take resposability we do not public on play google, on google play store a child may install and tap 2 buttons, that is how I publish a tread "Root your galaxy Note 2," and i put inside the kernel of Commodore64, before you speak of ignorance think of ignorance with which you answered without even knowing what we're talking.
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I read your post twice and still can't figure out exactly what you're trying to say - you published a thread about rooting your note 2 (by installing and tapping 2 buttons on google play), and put the thread inside the kernel of commodore64? wut?
Your original question was "Can you root without unlocking bootloader" - the answer, as several folks posted (and was mentioned in earlier searchable threads as well) was "No"
Did that answer your question? Or do you have a follow up question? - Not trying to sound rude - just trying to understand if your question has been answered or not.
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If you need to warranty it just flash the factory image and lock. Simple, easy
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...but not before resetting the TAMPER FLAG.
anthraxx90 said:
And if i brick it? My last bricked device was not recognized in anyway by any pc, no adb, no fastboot, just api, but can't fix it.
(and I have not broken it doing stupid things, just installed clockworkmod app from playstore and flash cwm for my device, what's result? after some day i read that cwm dev, put the wrong files in tf300t section, and the app flashed tf101 files)
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If you brick a device, it's on you. Why would they replace a device that was damaged by your tampering with it?
BirchBarlow said:
...but not before resetting the TAMPER FLAG.
If you brick a device, it's on you. Why would they replace a device that was damaged by your tampering with it?
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Perfect, this man understand what i want to know.
"the note 2 root and commodore, was an example, i was talking about rom manager with tf101 file instead of tf300 when i was installing cwm (for this i lost my tf300, cause hardbricked), and someone tell me that it's my error lol, for this i say:"now i publish an app on google play store that promise u to give root to your note 2 or any other smartphone, and instead of root it flash on your device the commodore64 kernel, and this make ur device broken forever"
My english is not good, but the sense is clear -.-
Close please, BirchBarlow give me all correct answer
So I have a black Nexus 5 with a capacity of 16GB. The device is only about 4 months old, so I still have it covered with warranty until June 2016. The device is as good as new and I'm very happy with it because everything is so fast and smooth.
Recently I've been thinking about rooting the device for maybe some little extras. For example, I have GTA SA installed but I would like to play it with the Cleo mod to have a little bit more fun. Or maybe I'll install some kind of adblocker so I could enjoy my brand new phone without the annoying gold diggers. Or perhaps I want to hide some apps from my app drawer so it would look neat and organised. Or I would like to install an apk that isn't available for non-rooted devices. Or in case I want to see the battery percentage next to the time display or anything like that.
As you can see I would only want to root it for rather small reasons. I definitely don't want to overclock anything because it already meets my criteria for speed, nor do I want to install any custom ROMs because I really like the pure android experience. So I have a few questions because I'm a total noob at the field of tweaking android:
Is my current data going to be wiped if I would want to root it?
I'm aware of the upcoming Android L release, so would I be able to update it right away (remember, I'm not going to use any custom ROMs) or would I have to unroot and reset everything first?
In case something goes wrong and I want to use my warranty, could any traces be found after I would have unrooted the device? (because rooting voids your warranty, right?)
What would be the top reasons to root the Nexus 5? For example, any features the device should've had but unfortunately hasn't.
And is it actually 100% safe...?
So regarding to the last question... A friend of mine has a rooted Moto G, he made me familiar with rooting and it's probably thanks to him that I'm considering it. Everything was going well but there were a few times that he woke up and his phone wasn't worth more than a brick. Apparently, it was because of some ROM he installed. This probably won't affect me in any way because like I said, I'm not going to install any custom ROMs, but my friend expected everything to be normal while it wasn't. He probably did everything like it should be done but then he suddenly woke up with a brick next to his head. So apparently, even if you do everything exactly like they tell you to do it, there's still a slight chance that it's going to end up badly, right?
So basically, I'm considering rooting my device but I'm still not sure what I would have to do because there are lots of tutorials and everything is quite confusing and I have some questions. All the help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
root/unlockbootloader/install twrp&busybox no data loss
root/unlockbootloader/install twrp&busybox no data loss without P.C, okay here we go mod's remove if you think it's not helping. download towelroot by geohot,now the rest from playstore, es file exploer,super su,busybox,reboot app,nexus unlock bootloader,
make sure you have security unknowen sources ticked and verify apps unticked.
download towelroot from chrome with es file exploer open and install hit make it rain tab, next install busybox,next install super su app.unlockbootloader with in the app.,install twrp and auto install recovery for hammerhead from twrp, now you should have full root after reboot.super user and busybox unlocked bootloader and twrp installed, and you know what the reboot app is for . no data loss and without a P.C, or you could use fastboot install just look in Q&A, kind regard's joe hope this help's.
Spaceblow said:
Is my current data going to be wiped if I would want to root it?
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Yep; when you unlock bootloader of your device (before root), all of data will be wiped.
Spaceblow said:
I'm aware of the upcoming Android L release, so would I be able to update it right away (remember, I'm not going to use any custom ROMs) or would I have to unroot and reset everything first?
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Nope. When you upgrade to Android L, it might be overwrite existing system clearly.
Spaceblow said:
In case something goes wrong and I want to use my warranty, could any traces be found after I would have unrooted the device? (because rooting voids your warranty, right?)
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We are using Google Nexus. Just revert with Nexus Factory Image.
http://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Spaceblow said:
What would be the top reasons to root the Nexus 5? For example, any features the device should've had but unfortunately hasn't.
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In my case, to connect NTFS filesystem.
Spaceblow said:
And is it actually 100% safe...?
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Maybe, but it's at your own risk.
Jongmin Kim said:
Yep; when you unlock your device (before root), all of data will be wiped.
Nope. When you upgrade to Android L, it might be overwrite existing system clearly.
No. We are using Google Nexus. Just revert with Nexus Factory Image.
http://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
In my case, to connect NTFS filesystem.
Maybe, but it's at your own risk.
English is too difficult... I'm trying to understand right now.
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root and then unlock bootloader with the app from playstore. has to be this way. regard's p.s no data wiped ,
Spaceblow said:
So I have a black Nexus 5 with a capacity of 16GB. The device is only about 4 months old, so I still have it covered with warranty until June 2016. The device is as good as new and I'm very happy with it because everything is so fast and smooth.
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First of all:
Lethargy said:
I think OP got his question reversed. Should be:
"Why buy a Nexus 5 if you're not going to root?"
:angel:
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Spaceblow said:
So I have a few questions because I'm a total noob at the field of tweaking android:
Is my current data going to be wiped if I would want to root it?
I'm aware of the upcoming Android L release, so would I be able to update it right away (remember, I'm not going to use any custom ROMs) or would I have to unroot and reset everything first?
In case something goes wrong and I want to use my warranty, could any traces be found after I would have unrooted the device? (because rooting voids your warranty, right?)
What would be the top reasons to root the Nexus 5? For example, any features the device should've had but unfortunately hasn't.
And is it actually 100% safe...?
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1. Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes the data partition, not root access.
2. Don't bother with OTAs to update, they're too much of a bother to try to get to work, when you can just flash factory images/zip, most likely before you even get the OTA pushed to you.
3. Depends where you bought it from. If you got it off the Play Store, then Google does not care about the software you have on your device as long as it's a legitimate manufacturing fault covered by the warranty. You can RMA to Google with a custom ROM and kernel if you wanted to. If you bought it from elsewhere, You'll have to send it to LG for repair. It's possible to reflash factory images and reset the tamper flag, there isn't anything else on the Nexus 5 that will tell LG anything. The easiest way is using LG Flashtool, which can be found in the first link of my signature. If your device is completely dead however, it doesn't matter since LG wouldn't be able to boot it up.
4. Root access is simply root access. You get access to /system, and therefore can use root apps and other modifications.
5. The root process itself is pretty much 100% safe. The Nexus 5 is really, really hard to brick, unless you flash something that isn't meant for your device or something similar, so user error is the only risk in the process. Software-wise, of course root access comes at some form of a security risk. Just be sure of what apps you're granting root access to and you should have no problem.
Spaceblow said:
So regarding to the last question... A friend of mine has a rooted Moto G, he made me familiar with rooting and it's probably thanks to him that I'm considering it. Everything was going well but there were a few times that he woke up and his phone wasn't worth more than a brick. Apparently, it was because of some ROM he installed. This probably won't affect me in any way because like I said, I'm not going to install any custom ROMs, but my friend expected everything to be normal while it wasn't. He probably did everything like it should be done but then he suddenly woke up with a brick next to his head. So apparently, even if you do everything exactly like they tell you to do it, there's still a slight chance that it's going to end up badly, right?
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Most likely user error, or simply because a Moto device could be locked down more (which also makes it riskier and harder to restore) and not as easy to develop for. The Nexus 5 is one of the hardest devices to brick (again, excluding user error), and if you have any issues it would either be user error or a bug in the ROM/kernel.
Spaceblow said:
So basically, I'm considering rooting my device but I'm still not sure what I would have to do because there are lots of tutorials and everything is quite confusing and I have some questions. All the help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
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Check out the first link of my signature and read some threads before proceeding blindly.
There are ways to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader and without a PC as mentioned above, but it's recommended to do it the traditional way by backing up your internal storage to a PC first and using fastboot. Those methods are useful for other devices that are more locked down. This is a Nexus device, it's better to do it properly.
Lethargy said:
First of all:
1. Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes the data partition, not root access.
2. Don't bother with OTAs to update, they're too much of a bother to try to get to work, when you can just flash factory images/zip, most likely before you even get the OTA pushed to you.
3. Depends where you bought it from. If you got it off the Play Store, then Google does not care about the software you have on your device as long as it's a legitimate manufacturing fault covered by the warranty. You can RMA to Google with a custom ROM and kernel if you wanted to. If you bought it from elsewhere, You'll have to send it to LG for repair. It's possible to reflash factory images and reset the tamper flag, there isn't anything else on the Nexus 5 that will tell LG anything. The easiest way is using LG Flashtool, which can be found in the first link of my signature. If your device is completely dead however, it doesn't matter since LG wouldn't be able to boot it up.
4. Root access is simply root access. You get access to /system, and therefore can use root apps and other modifications.
5. The root process itself is pretty much 100% safe. The Nexus 5 is really, really hard to brick, unless you flash something that isn't meant for your device or something similar, so user error is the only risk in the process. Software-wise, of course root access comes at some form of a security risk. Just be sure of what apps you're granting root access to and you should have no problem.
Most likely user error, or simply because a Moto device could be locked down more (which also makes it riskier and harder to restore). The Nexus 5 is one of the hardest devices to brick (again, excluding user error), and if you have any issues it would either be user error or a bug in the ROM/kernel.
Check out the first link of my signature and read some threads before proceeding blindly.
There are ways to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader and without a PC as mentioned above, but it's recommended to do it the traditional way by backing up your internal storage to a PC first and using fastboot. Those methods are useful for other devices that are more locked down. This is a Nexus device, it's better to do it properly.
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lol yeah i have to agree with you, but i find this help's when on the go,
joecool666 said:
lol yeah i have to agree with you, but i find this help's when on the go,
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If you don't have access to a PC, or you're using a locked-down Samsung/HTC/Moto/Sony/whatever device, then sure, go ahead and use the exploit methods.
But if you do have access to a PC, and it's a Nexus device, just do it properly, it'll cause fewer possible issues.
Lethargy said:
If you don't have access to a PC, or you're using a locked-down Samsung/HTC/Moto/Sony/whatever device, then sure, go ahead and use the exploit methods.
But if you do have access to a PC, and it's a Nexus device, just do it properly, it'll cause fewer possible issues.
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i do use my p.c and lg flashtool and fastboot.just incase lol.and it is the better way of doing it, p.s when OTG rooting don't forget to bring the XDA app.
joecool666 said:
root and then unlock bootloader with the app from playstore. has to be this way. regard's p.s no data wiped ,
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You mean Towelroot? I'm also considering this option because it would be nice to keep all my data.
Lethargy said:
First of all:
1. Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes the data partition, not root access.
2. Don't bother with OTAs to update, they're too much of a bother to try to get to work, when you can just flash factory images/zip, most likely before you even get the OTA pushed to you.
3. Depends where you bought it from. If you got it off the Play Store, then Google does not care about the software you have on your device as long as it's a legitimate manufacturing fault covered by the warranty. You can RMA to Google with a custom ROM and kernel if you wanted to. If you bought it from elsewhere, You'll have to send it to LG for repair. It's possible to reflash factory images and reset the tamper flag, there isn't anything else on the Nexus 5 that will tell LG anything. The easiest way is using LG Flashtool, which can be found in the first link of my signature. If your device is completely dead however, it doesn't matter since LG wouldn't be able to boot it up.
4. Root access is simply root access. You get access to /system, and therefore can use root apps and other modifications.
5. The root process itself is pretty much 100% safe. The Nexus 5 is really, really hard to brick, unless you flash something that isn't meant for your device or something similar, so user error is the only risk in the process. Software-wise, of course root access comes at some form of a security risk. Just be sure of what apps you're granting root access to and you should have no problem.
Most likely user error, or simply because a Moto device could be locked down more (which also makes it riskier and harder to restore) and not as easy to develop for. The Nexus 5 is one of the hardest devices to brick (again, excluding user error), and if you have any issues it would either be user error or a bug in the ROM/kernel.
Check out the first link of my signature and read some threads before proceeding blindly.
There are ways to gain root access without unlocking the bootloader and without a PC as mentioned above, but it's recommended to do it the traditional way by backing up your internal storage to a PC first and using fastboot. Those methods are useful for other devices that are more locked down. This is a Nexus device, it's better to do it properly.
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This is some great information, thank you very much! So in case I would want to do it manually, this thread has everything I need (in combination with the 15 seconds ADB Installer)?
Spaceblow said:
This is some great information, thank you very much! So in case I would want to do it manually, this thread has everything I need (in combination with the 15 seconds ADB Installer)?
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Yep. :good: I also recommend using TWRP instead of CWM as your recovery. PhilZ Touch is also another good alternative, but it is no longer maintained and probably won't work for Lollipop's default encryption.
Latest SuperSU is located here, flashable in a custom recovery.
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Yep. :good: I also recommend using TWRP instead of CWM as your recovery. PhilZ Touch is also another good alternative, but it is no longer maintained and probably won't work for Lollipop's default encryption.
Latest SuperSU is located here, flashable in a custom recovery.
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Thanks for helping me but I used Towelroot and it works flawlessly!
Spaceblow said:
Thanks for helping me but I used Towelroot and it works flawlessly!
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Cool. :good:
Even though you now have root access, I recommend using Bootunlocker or whatever app to unlock the bootloader from within Android (which doesn't wipe), then flashing a custom recovery with fastboot while in the bootloader anyways.
Why?
If something goes wrong and your phone doesn't boot, you'll have no choice but to unlock the bootloader WITH a wipe using fastboot, then flash a custom recovery or reflash factory images, unless you've done the above, in which case you can dirty-flash (no wipe) a stock ROM zip downloadable here. :angel:
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Spaceblow said:
Thanks for helping me but I used Towelroot and it works flawlessly!
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make sure you make a back up back up most important,regard's joe
To be clear, the *whole* phone including your sdcard partition will be wiped so make sure you back up before unlocking your bootloader. I would use an app like ES File Explorer and copy all your files to Dropbox or Google Drive if you dont have a computer but you'll need a computer anyway.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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To be clear, the *whole* phone including your sdcard partition will be wiped
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If we want to be clear, we should also be accurate. The *whole* phone is not wiped. The /data partition is wiped, which includes /data/app (where user apps are stored) /data/data (where user settings and app data is stored) and /data/media (where /sdcard data is stored)
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Cool. :good:
Even though you now have root access, I recommend using Bootunlocker or whatever app to unlock the bootloader from within Android (which doesn't wipe), then flashing a custom recovery with fastboot while in the bootloader anyways.
Why?
If something goes wrong and your phone doesn't boot, you'll have no choice but to unlock the bootloader WITH a wipe using fastboot, then flash a custom recovery or reflash factory images, unless you've done the above, in which case you can dirty-flash (no wipe) a stock ROM zip downloadable here. :angel:
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Thanks for the tip but then I'll be unable to receive OTA updates unless I restore everything, including everything being wiped, right?
joecool666 said:
make sure you make a back up back up most important,regard's joe
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By using Titanium Backup?
Spaceblow said:
Thanks for the tip but then I'll be unable to receive OTA updates unless I restore everything, including everything being wiped, right?
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All guides and info threads are in my signature. One such INFO thread is OTA help-desk, which explains that you can receive OTA with custom recovery, however there are extra steps.
However, please let me explain 1 thing. OTA is the ultimate noob move. Only root-noobs receive OTA updates. They are the most inconvenient method of updating your OS if you are rooted. Long before you even receive the OTA update, there will be a pre-rooted flashable.zip that can be flashed via recovery.
noobs will often say "but..but..but I wont have to wipe if I accept an OTA"... Little do they know... Even after an official OTA, things screw up. Whenever an OS is upgraded, a wipe is highly recommended as OTA's are imperfect and data between apps and settings conflicts between versions.
OTA is a fools errand if you're rooted. Now you're rooted, leave OTA to the unrooted and learn to manage your rooted device properly. All the info you could ever need is available in my signature as previously mentioned.
Spaceblow said:
Thanks for the tip but then I'll be unable to receive OTA updates unless I restore everything, including everything being wiped, right?
By using Titanium Backup?
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Owning a Nexus makes fastboot your best friend, especially if you have issues.
Read up on adb/fastboot and forget OTA's. Nothing like a clean fresh install of a new version. And there's many options to save /backup your data and important files.
Without learning fastboot and adb.... Simple fix issues can become major headaches.
Don't be intimidated. Read, learn, then do. ?
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@rootSU has everything you need in his sticky roll up thread.
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All guides and info threads are in my signature. One such INFO thread is OTA help-desk, which explains that you can receive OTA with custom recovery, however there are extra steps.
However, please let me explain 1 thing. OTA is the ultimate noob move. Only root-noobs receive OTA updates. They are the most inconvenient method of updating your OS if you are rooted. Long before you even receive the OTA update, there will be a pre-rooted flashable.zip that can be flashed via recovery.
noobs will often say "but..but..but I wont have to wipe if I accept an OTA"... Little do they know... Even after an official OTA, things screw up. Whenever an OS is upgraded, a wipe is highly recommended as OTA's are imperfect and data between apps and settings conflicts between versions.
OTA is a fools errand if you're rooted. Now you're rooted, leave OTA to the unrooted and learn to manage your rooted device properly. All the info you could ever need is available in my signature as previously mentioned.
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Well, you convinced me to take my N5 to a step further.
So I already Towelrooted my phone which gave me root access and an untouched bootloader and recovery. My next step would be to backup every app and all data to be sure in case something goes wrong, this would be done by using Titanium Backup. Then I should be unlocking the bootloader by simply using BootUnlocker for Nexus Devices so I wouldn't get my data wiped (I know I would be able to restore it with my backup but I rather do it a bit faster and less complex). When I did that, I have to head over to this thread and flash TWRP by following the instructions at "2. Installing a Custom Recovery".
So after all these steps my phone would have no limitations and it would be as unlocked as for example your Nexus 5, right?
Hello, I have rooted my galaxy s6 international version and the only thing I am using is some CSC (?) features like alphabetacilly sorting the app drawer, adblocker and whatsmapp. Actually, I kind of regret it, I want back my factory galaxy s6, warranty, clean rom, is there any way to get like a new device? Installing the stock rom I had will fix it?
Now I see more problems with the s6 like fingerprint sensor isn't working, I'm so afraid without the warranty, don't you?
The burned eFuse-Chip is in fact a hardware damage caused by rooting from the user --> no more warranty by Samsung! You can check that in several reports online, in magazins and even at Samsung
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Saw this in the other thread located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/penalties-flashing-rooting-t3097277
So yeah you can never restore original, never...You can only flash stock firmware.
I did root my Galaxy S6, at first I was very disapointed that I did that, but now I'm thinking that sooner or later I would still have done the same thing, because without root your phone is kind of limited to some things, root gives you more power over the phone so you can control it how you like.
Edit: Fingerprint scanner works fine for me, for you it's probably software related issue, that could be solved by flashing other firmwares.
Giancarlo456 said:
Saw this in the other thread located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/penalties-flashing-rooting-t3097277
So yeah you can never restore original, never...You can only flash stock firmware.
I did root my Galaxy S6, at first I was very disapointed that I did that, but now I'm thinking that sooner or later I would still have done the same thing, because without root your phone is kind of limited to some things, root gives you more power over the phone so you can control it how you like.
Edit: Fingerprint scanner works fine for me, for you it's probably software related issue, that could be solved by flashing other firmwares.
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Im curious if thats the same case with rooting with PingPong root. It doesnt trigger KNOX so can it also mean that the efuse doesnt get triggered?
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Im curious if thats the same case with rooting with PingPong root. It doesnt trigger KNOX so can it also mean that the efuse doesnt get triggered?
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I'm not sure, but it may save the Efuse-chip by rooting with PingPong. It's a shame that I didn't knew about it before rooting...
Giancarlo456 said:
I'm not sure, but it may save the Efuse-chip by rooting with PingPong. It's a shame that I didn't knew about it before rooting...
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Well we can hope that it doesn't! Yeah mate it sucks ive been wanting to root ever since the SGS6 released but been torned incase I want to return to completly stock so this is a nice choice. But as you said yourself, you would have eventually rooted sooner or later and I don't think you will miss out on anything important
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Hello, I have rooted my galaxy s6 international version and the only thing I am using is some CSC (?) features like alphabetacilly sorting the app drawer, adblocker and whatsmapp. Actually, I kind of regret it, I want back my factory galaxy s6, warranty, clean rom, is there any way to get like a new device? Installing the stock rom I had will fix it?
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Install Samsung Smart Switch and use it to make a backup of your things and then use the recovery option in the program. It will download the right firmware for you and re-install your phone to fabric settings.
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Install Samsung Smart Switch and use it to make a backup of your things and then use the recovery option in the program. It will download the right firmware for you and re-install your phone to fabric settings.
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Thx everyone.. really disappointed of rooting, at least I wish I could restore it and root with ping-pong root.
And Zozo,
Its just to transfer files from my previous device to my current device. .
JusTeN_ said:
Thx everyone.. really disappointed of rooting, at least I wish I could restore it and root with ping-pong root.
And Zozo,
Its just to transfer files from my previous device to my current device. .
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If you press the "More" button up to the right there's an option called "Emergency software recovery initialisation". There you can re-install your whole phone to completely factory settings
It will not untrip your KNOX if you rooted the phone in any other way than with PingPong Root, that is not possible for the time being.
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If you press the "More" button up to the right there's an option called "Emergency software recovery initialisation". There you can re-install your whole phone to completely factory settings
It will not untrip your KNOX if you rooted the phone in any other way than with PingPong Root, that is not possible for the time being.
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Actually, I don't have the More button, nevermind I will just keep it this way, not a big deal I hope,thx.
Just seen this by droid modder x on YouTube will this work on our device I don't wanna screw my device up that's why I'm asking here's the link too
http://droidmodderx.com/how-to-root-any-and-all-android-devices-with-one-click-root-app
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I would follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guides-bacon-timmaaas-how-to-guides-t2839471
^this will help you do the unlock, root, flash for our amazing phone. Also there are rootkits and some people say to not use them but that is a personal preference.
But would that screw up the device if I did use the king root app ?
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But would that screw up the device if I did use the king root app ?
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The question is why would you even use that app when you don't need to? Exploits and hacks aren't needed on this phone, all you need to do is go to my guide that you've been linked to above and follow the instructions to unlock your bootloader and root your device.
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Yes sir!!!
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Good Morning, just a little information, there is no way to install super SU zip file with the stock cyanogen recovery? I need root to change timestamp of some video files that I copied into my OPO (MTP chaged all of them to the date of when i copied these files) and a rooted phone is the only option.
Thanks.
kingnappa said:
Good Morning, just a little information, there is no way to install super SU zip file with the stock cyanogen recovery? I need root to change timestamp of some video files that I copied into my OPO (MTP chaged all of them to the date of when i copied these files) and a rooted phone is the only option.
Thanks.
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No, you can't flash SuperSU with the stock recovery. You need to unlock your bootloader and install TWRP.
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No, you can't flash SuperSU with the stock recovery. You need to unlock your bootloader and install TWRP.
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That's what I thought, thanks.
BTW has anyone used thik Kingroot app? Does it work? Because I don't want to unlock bootloader and lose everything again just for my videos-
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That's what I thought, thanks.
BTW has anyone used thik Kingroot app? Does it work? Because I don't want to unlock bootloader and lose everything again just for my videos-
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You don't have to lose everything, just back it up first. Of course you probably wouldn't be in this position if you had properly researched the phone when you decided to buy it.
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Kingroot does not root opo. Have tested several times. Maybe I was unlucky
I don't get why it is preferable to root by unlocking the bootloader and losing all apps+settings in the process when the kingroot method would provide root without losing apps+settings...
galmok said:
I don't get why it is preferable to root by unlocking the bootloader and losing all apps+settings in the process when the kingroot method would provide root without losing apps+settings...
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Because Kingroot is an exploit, it's a hack. It's like smashing a window to get inside your house when all you need to do is open the front door (unlock bootloader, root). On top of that, unlocking the bootloader is how it was designed to be done. Also, I don't get why people even lose any data or apps by unlocking the bootloader in the first place. Anyone with any sense researches their phone properly before jumping in and knows to unlock the bootloader before committing any data to it. The fact that unlocking wipes the device isn't even specific to this phone, it's a standard across all Android devices, so anyone who's modifying their device should know this anyway.
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Because Kingroot is an exploit, it's a hack. It's like smashing a window to get inside your house when all you need to do is open the front door (unlock bootloader, root). Also, I don't get why people even lose any data or apps by unlocking the bootloader in the first place. Anyone with any sense researches their phone properly before jumping in and knows to unlock the bootloader before committing any data to it. The fact that unlocking wipes the device isn't even specific to this phone, it's a standard across all Android devices, so anyone who's modifying their device should know this anyway.
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Actually, with my Samsung Galaxy S2 (previous phone), all I had to do was install an update via builtin bootloader and I was rooted without having unlocked the bootloader. Worked great. I assumed the OnePlus (my current Android) would offer the same. Too late did I learn that unlocking the bootloader would erase everything. It wasn't even possible to make a backup of everything, locking me in the non-root position. So, if KingRoot can root my phone, this is clearly a great option as it would allow me to make a full backup of the phone (and restore should it be necessary, e.g. after unlocking bootloader). Exploits/hacks are not bad. Often they offer features not available otherwise, like KingRoot's non-destructive rooting.
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Actually, with my Samsung Galaxy S2 (previous phone), all I had to do was install an update via builtin bootloader and I was rooted without having unlocked the bootloader. Worked great. I assumed the OnePlus (my current Android) would offer the same. Too late did I learn that unlocking the bootloader would erase everything. It wasn't even possible to make a backup of everything, locking me in the non-root position. So, if KingRoot can root my phone, this is clearly a great option as it would allow me to make a full backup of the phone (and restore should it be necessary, e.g. after unlocking bootloader). Exploits/hacks are not bad. Often they offer features not available otherwise, like KingRoot's non-destructive rooting.
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Actually, the entire reason you had to root that way with your Samsung is because they've locked the bootloader down so that it cannot be unlocked. That's actually why exploits like Kingroot exist in the first place, in order to root devices that cannot be rooted in the normal way. As I said, if you had done the proper research in the first place you wouldn't be in the position you're in now. Exploits aren't bad, they have a place, they have a reason to exist, but it isn't to root devices like this which are open and able to be rooted in the way that was always intended.
I see a lot of ex Samsung users complaining that they have to go through the process of unlocking the bootloader and all that to root the phone, and complaining that their usual exploit doesn't work, not realising the whole time that they've got it completely backwards; the exploit is the round-about way of doing things, unlocking the bootloader is the intended way of doing things.
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Having the bootloader unlocked is essential for insurance purposes too. If you have trouble with your phone in future and need to flash the stock images because it won't boot you'll be forced to unlock the bootloader to do so. You won't be able to salvage any data from the phone. It's better to do it now when you actually have some control over the situation.
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Actually, the entire reason you had to root that way with your Samsung is because they've locked the bootloader down so that it cannot be unlocked. That's actually why exploits like Kingroot exist in the first place, in order to root devices that cannot be rooted in the normal way. As I said, if you had done the proper research in the first place you wouldn't be in the position you're in now. Exploits aren't bad, they have a place, they have a reason to exist, but it isn't to root devices like this which are open and able to be rooted in the way that was always intended.
I see a lot of ex Samsung users complaining that they have to go through the process of unlocking the bootloader and all that to root the phone, and complaining that their usual exploit doesn't work, not realising the whole time that they've got it completely backwards; the exploit is the round-about way of doing things, unlocking the bootloader is the intended way of doing things.
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Well, at least my OnePlus (11s) could be rooted without having the bootloader unlocked. This is perfect for me, as I should still be able to get OTA firmware upgrades (not possible as far as I have read about unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom bootloader to root). Of course, this method relies on vulnerabilities, and are not always going to be there. So I have to make a choice:
1) Hope rooting via hacks is enough and always available, but also get OTA.
2) Unlock bootloader etc., lose all files and settings (start from scratch), not get OTA, use lots of time to get apps/contacts/photos/settings back.
I don't have time for #2 which is why I am (was) still unrooted. #1 took 2 minutes (1 minut of waiting) with kingroot and for now is good enough. I will begin using a decent backup program (instead of adb backup) so I can make a hopefully smooth transition to the unlocked/replaced bootloader case.
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Oh, and the only reason I rooted was to get more details about unwanted battery usage (BetterBatteryStats).
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Well, at least my OnePlus (11s) could be rooted without having the bootloader unlocked. This is perfect for me, as I should still be able to get OTA firmware upgrades (not possible as far as I have read about unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom bootloader to root). Of course, this method relies on vulnerabilities, and are not always going to be there. So I have to make a choice:
1) Hope rooting via hacks is enough and always available, but also get OTA.
2) Unlock bootloader etc., lose all files and settings (start from scratch), not get OTA, use lots of time to get apps/contacts/photos/settings back.
I don't have time for #2 which is why I am (was) still unrooted. #1 took 2 minutes (1 minut of waiting) with kingroot and for now is good enough. I will begin using a decent backup program (instead of adb backup) so I can make a hopefully smooth transition to the unlocked/replaced bootloader case.
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Oh, and the only reason I rooted was to get more details about unwanted battery usage (BetterBatteryStats).
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You can still get OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader and root, where did you read otherwise? Whoever said that is dead wrong. You might wanna read the edit I made to my post above too.