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A Farewell!

Gentlemen and ladies, just wanted to thank everyone here for helping me make my TB last as long as it did. I had posted many a noob question and everyone was very helpful in answering those goofy questions. I have migrated to the 8X, and will miss seeing all the stuff everyone keeps coming up with!
Just wanted to thank everyone who lended a helping hand!
Cheers!

I can't understand why people are jumping ship, the Thunderbolt is a GREAT phone and, with the right ROM is all anyone would ever need!
I'm sticking with it for two reasons:
1. because it's so perfect that nobody could ever wish for a better phone and
2. because UPS didn't deliver my Galaxy SIII today. It should be here tomorrow.

xs11e said:
I can't understand why people are jumping ship, the Thunderbolt is a GREAT phone and, with the right ROM is all anyone would ever need!
I'm sticking with it for two reasons:
1. because it's so perfect that nobody could ever wish for a better phone and
2. because UPS didn't deliver my Galaxy SIII today. It should be here tomorrow.
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Bah! Thats funny!

And it's here so I guess this is farewell for me, too.
I'm finished the set-up and so far I prefer the Thunderbolt, I suppose the S3 will grow on me eventually?
Last but not least, thanks to all here who have made the T'bolt a very good experience!

jerrya said:
Gentlemen and ladies, just wanted to thank everyone here for helping me make my TB last as long as it did. I had posted many a noob question and everyone was very helpful in answering those goofy questions. I have migrated to the 8X, and will miss seeing all the stuff everyone keeps coming up with!
Just wanted to thank everyone who lended a helping hand!
Cheers!
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Congratulations!
What do you plan on doing with the old Bolt? IF you are going to make it a paper weight might I ask for it. Mine lost the top half of the screen and the ear speaker is out. Not good when unemployed so looking for a free phone?
Thank you,

Even though I jumped ship to a DNA, my use of the Thunderbolt is not over. It now serves as my music player and as a GPS unit. It is now more convenient since having 1 phone and using it for GPS, it would be a pain when you get a phone call and then you end up lost or whatever. Now I can answer my calls and speak my texts as I'm driving with my DNA while still being able to navigate. So for me, my Thunderbolt is still very much active.
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xs11e said:
And it's here so I guess this is farewell for me, too.
I'm finished the set-up and so far I prefer the Thunderbolt, I suppose the S3 will grow on me eventually?
Last but not least, thanks to all here who have made the T'bolt a very good experience!
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I have a friend here who also was a TB user, he went with the S3 also, and really loves it. So I think its a learning curve, new setup that you will get used to. I am still trying to figure out just how I want my start screen set up, keep changing it. Eventually I will stop. Or die, whichever comes first!

baronmxc said:
Even though I jumped ship to a DNA, my use of the Thunderbolt is not over. It now serves as my music player and as a GPS unit. It is now more convenient since having 1 phone and using it for GPS, it would be a pain when you get a phone call and then you end up lost or whatever. Now I can answer my calls and speak my texts as I'm driving with my DNA while still being able to navigate. So for me, my Thunderbolt is still very much active.
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My thunderbolt stayed in the family as I gave it to my little sis when I got the Galaxy Nexus last month. She loves the fact that I had it rooted and that I had the extended battery.

jerrya said:
So I think its a learning curve, new setup that you will get used to.
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My problem is the button locations, they're different! I have large hands and when messing around in recovery my ring finger constantly hits the "back" button, the power button is in a very bad place for me, etc. etc.
It takes a lot of getting used to!

xs11e said:
My problem is the button locations, they're different! I have large hands and when messing around in recovery my ring finger constantly hits the "back" button, the power button is in a very bad place for me, etc. etc.
It takes a lot of getting used to!
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Yea, like I said, my biggest issue is actually the camera button, I give it a love tap everytime I grab the phone. Thankfully its not an instant on, otherwise that would be a problem.
Its good to see though, that even with this minor (I believe its a minor) issue, its still a great phone. There is no way you can make the location of the buttons perfect for everyone since were all built with different fingers and hands.
And I didn't keep the TB, sold it back to Verizon for 33 bucks, and with the 8X on sale for 99, its nice to only pay 66 bucks for an over 500 dollor phone!
AND I think I FINALLY have the start screen where I want it. Now just have to figure out how to reduce the size of all my songs. With all the songs on, I maxed out the memory. Surprising, its still wicked fast with only 30mb free! WoopWoop!

FJ40dan said:
Congratulations!
What do you plan on doing with the old Bolt? IF you are going to make it a paper weight might I ask for it. Mine lost the top half of the screen and the ear speaker is out. Not good when unemployed so looking for a free phone?
Thank you,
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Sorry, see post above, its already on its way to Verizon.

FJ40dan said:
Congratulations!
What do you plan on doing with the old Bolt? IF you are going to make it a paper weight might I ask for it. Mine lost the top half of the screen and the ear speaker is out. Not good when unemployed so looking for a free phone?
Thank you,
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Yea my ear speaker is out also. I managed to blow that speaker and crack the bottom right hand corner of my screen.
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HTC TB Running Urban Nonsense ROM v1.5-R3Ds

I went to the note 2 first day it came out and haven't looked back. I do miss the simultaneous voice and data over 3g. I work in a 3g/4g fringe area.
Thunderbolt is now a slimed down bamf offline gps / music / trip tracker.
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How do you use GPS offline?

damusmf said:
How do you use GPS offline?
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There is an option to save your maps for offline use.
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Copilot is an app I use, but there are many others. You can pay anywhere from 10$-50$ depending on quality. I find copilot is a good mix of price, performance, quality. It's only been wrong twice in the few years I've used it.
I also use locus maps pro for my backwoods hiking and tracking.
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Well....the dark side has finally gotten ahold of me....Ditching the S6 for the iPhon

I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?

nateohio said:
I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.

rbeavers said:
Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?
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It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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nateohio said:
It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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This is very true. I love Android, but I am sick of having to jump through holes just to get it to be clean. I hate how Verizon butchers everything and Samsung doesn't have the balls to stand up to them. Apple is able to do that. I have no hatred against Android nor iOS. I go by features that fit my requirements and the S6 has the best - Primary being the camera. However, I've noticed my photos have been blurry and the S6 can't decide what to do in low-light and doesn't use flash, which forces me to have people re-pose what should have been candid. I do believe the iPhone 6s will have the better camera (or at least he software to use the camera) and I would like to jump to it. It's just, the lack of IR, private mode (obviously just software), and battery life/fast charging, are big killers for me. Given the smaller battery and worse battery life, charging the damn thing is so slow. At least implement a fast charging feature and I can overlook my laziness of looking for my TV remote and privacy mode.

Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!

GoBears said:
Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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nateohio said:
You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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And I'd rather not be able to install apps that I may use occasionally versus having VZW for their crap products onto my phone and screwing it up in the process
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GoBears said:
Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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nateohio said:
And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.

GoBears said:
Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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nateohio said:
Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.

GoBears said:
Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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I'm far past the point in my life where I need to be validated by anonymous people on the Internet...chances are...judging by your behavior....I was using Android while you were still in elementary school. If you'd bother to have read my posts, you'd know that I've been using /hacking /flashing android devices since long before they became mainstream. Get over yourself
My post was meant for those users (who btw outnumber you in this thread) that may be in similar situations or experiences.
Changing my launcher? I don't even do that on android devices....too many bugs most of the time. Use NFC to initiate a Macro? I've done that, and it can make things a little more convenient. But I would rather use it to pay at the store. Something you can't do with the S6 because verizon has the android companies by the balls and just says "we aren't going to allow you have that feature" ...changing led colors? Really? Why even mention that?
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Bxrider117 said:
I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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That's what I'm saying. I've been doing it for so long it's just become second nature. I miss the OG Droid....that was a tinkerers dream. After years of doing it though, I'd rather spend the time doing things that are more fun. In other words, I don't care about customization options or 3rd party apps anymore. I just want a phone that actually works and works well out of the box, not needing any intervention on my part other than picking it up and turning it on.
This most recent issue with my bluetooth not allowing my phone to sleep was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Could I fix the problem? Probably....do I want to devote the time to it? Nope....not anymore.
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GoBears said:
Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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harrytery said:
Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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harrytery said:
Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Hey pot meet the kettle. I find it ironic how YOU (lol at that btw) brought absolutely nothing to the conversation except an attack on me. At least I brought facts into it along with my opinion. You're just a troll yourself.
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nateohio said:
Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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Yeah VZW could mess up a wet dream, that I cannot argue lol. Samsung I give credit to because at least they try change, for better or for worse, at least they try.

Eddie Hicks said:
I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.
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I have an S6 and the battery is a LOT better than I thought it would be. I use my phone CONSTANTLY for work everyday outside with the brightness all the way up and I usually make it home most days with a little juice left. I have a Mophie case on it everyday but rarely have to use it.

There both good operating systems it doesn't have to be one or the other yea a nexus is fun to flash the **** out of it but obviously Apple doing something right too it's more about Verizons locked bootloaders.

Well, maybe back to Android Wear

Just updated my Huawei to AW 1.4 (Marshmallow), and now have calling capabilities on my wrist. For me, this is a high-value feature, and the reason I put the AW watch back in the drawer after 6 weeks with it and went back to Gear, buying a Sport 3G. I've since upgraded to a Classic 3G (Verizon, always hated the swatchy sport) to have calling features again (I've been on Gears since the first one).
No standalone 3G may still send me back to Gear S2 in the next days or week or two, but we'll see. Everything else on the AW platform is so superior (with a few exceptions), and of course "OK Google" -- the functionality, accuracy, etc. of this feature alone is almost enough to keep me from going back. May turn out to be enough.
It's sad. Samsung, IMO, has made a huge strategic error in failing to make S-Voice a higher priority. The customer base has been complaining from the beginning with the first Gear, years ago. Back then, "OK Google" was far more rudimentary, error-prone, etc. In that time, Google has invested enormous resources in making this "personal assistant" actually useful rather than annoying. Something you actually think about invoking to do something, because, like flipping a lightswitch, it "just works".
I think these voice-activated, hands-free "assistant" features are going to become the sine qua non of "wearables" in very short order. Samsung, with their neglect of S-voice are going to find themselves stuck in an uncompetitive posture regardless of how innovative their hardware and UI inventions are. The rotating bezel is cool, and it is a better way to do things than swiping around; however, simply telling your watch what to do while your hands are occupied (like driving) is far, far more useful.
Anyway, I'll post again in a week or so to reflect my plusses/minuses going back... I have a feeling I'll put the S2 back on my wrist, just because of the 3G -- I've come to really depend on that luxury, forgetting my phone somewhat regularly (or deliberately leaving it behind). I created a Tasker task that sends me a notification when the watch disconnects from BT to remind me to forward calls. Works great if I forget my phone. Once the 3/4G AW watches hit the street, I'm gone from Gear. Samsung clearly isn't going to improve S-voice.

Ok good story ,bye ,if you read this,post clips
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There are already 4G AW watches.
I am torn, AW is a larger ecosystem, but Tizen is a more robust system, it has actual apps that run independent of the phone (though not as many as I'd like). It's different, but honestly each are good in there own way, it's an opinion as to which is best.
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There are already 4G AW watches.
I am torn, AW is a larger ecosystem, but Tizen is a more robust system, it has actual apps that run independent of the phone (though not as many as I'd like). It's different, but honestly each are good in there own way, it's an opinion as to which is best.
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I tried the LG urbane 2 LTE. And it's awful. The gear has much better thought out 3g implementation. Even with Ok google, I returned the LG and went back to my s2.

Well, that didn't take long. One day.
The phone implementation is buggy, and the UI awkward.
I missed the Gear's much more sensible, usable UI for SMS/MMS immediately, the general notification mechanism and UI, and many more usage aspects that are routine every day with a smartwatch.
Then there was the 3G... my Huawei doesn't have a cell radio, so I couldn't compare apples/apples, and unteather. Still, that narrow feature/capability wouldn't be any different -- i.e. being away from the phone. The calling UI operates the same regardless, and that's what I found annoying.
Of course, the digital assistant ("OK Google") was brilliant, almost enough to make me suffer with the other problems. For now, I'll stay with the S2, and see how AW bakes over the next six months. Those damn cards are one of the most annoying "features" of all.

Very interested in the Tasker app you described above. Would you mind sharing the details please?

Pinmac said:
Very interested in the Tasker app you described above. Would you mind sharing the details please?
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Yeah, I mentioned this in another thread, and was asked to share.
I need to polish one piece of it before I share (the automatic notification when you're back in BT range to remind you about the Forward All), then I'll zip up the profile and tasks and post it.
Not at the top of my list, though, so don't expect anything for a few days, maybe a week.

That's great, thanks. No tearing hurry, I'm using the Brrr app which does a pretty good job but am interested in other options.

Heard from standalone apps in wear at Google io this week.
It's the same for me. I had aw from the beginning and switched to gear s2 in autumn last year. There are pros and cons in both systems. After a few month now with the gear I feel the urge to go back to wear after the new features where announced this week. I'm probably going to wait till fall when the updates actually hit. And maybe hope to see similar feature like the bezel navigation. I absolutely love this. But also miss the hands free navigation from aw.
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donky kong 017 said:
Heard from standalone apps in wear at Google io this week.
It's the same for me. I had aw from the beginning and switched to gear s2 in autumn last year. There are pros and cons in both systems. After a few month now with the gear I feel the urge to go back to wear after the new features where announced this week. I'm probably going to wait till fall when the updates actually hit. And maybe hope to see similar feature like the bezel navigation. I absolutely love this. But also miss the hands free navigation from aw.
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I'm waiting for the new Qualcomm wear chip in a device with cellular connectivity. I'm intrigued by the stand-alone apps and I do miss setting timers with Google voice (I have kids and enjoy cooking so those are 2 times timers come in handy lol).
If Samsung gave us SamsungPay on the watch I'd be more reluctant to switch to AW though.
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_Dennis_ said:
I'm waiting for the new Qualcomm wear chip in a device with cellular connectivity. I'm intrigued by the stand-alone apps and I do miss setting timers with Google voice (I have kids and enjoy cooking so those are 2 times timers come in handy lol).
If Samsung gave us SamsungPay on the watch I'd be more reluctant to switch to AW though.
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Yeah the voice controls were excellent on aw that's true even in German it worked very good.
The pay options are not available neither from Sammy nor from Android here. So thats not important. Although I would love to have those options
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donky kong 017 said:
The pay options are not available neither from Sammy nor from Android here. So thats not important. Although I would love to have those options
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Aye, neither here in the US, if either had it in would be using that system lol.
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Aye, neither here in the US, if either had it in would be using that system lol.
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in the u.s. its a little better though. in foreign counties one have to wait for ages for some Services (e.g. no podcasts in gpm) or we won't get them at all. Voice control and assistance is a bad topic all the time.
sometimes i think all the fancy gadgets i buy are just worth half the money cause i can use just half the features.

donky kong 017 said:
in the u.s. its a little better though. in foreign counties one have to wait for ages for some Services (e.g. no podcasts in gpm) or we won't get them at all. Voice control and assistance is a bad topic all the time.
sometimes i think all the fancy gadgets i buy are just worth half the money cause i can use just half the features.
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I feel your pain. I travel for 6-8 out of months every 18. A lot of things don't work even for Americans while outside the US. I was paying for Google play music (should be getting youtube red) but youtube red only worked in the US, felt like I was not getting what I paid for.
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It's utterly ridiculous that completely innocuous "internet things" don't simply work anywhere one has an (unrestricted -- think China) internet connection.
It's all about mandarins. They must have control over you simply to have control.
About the timer: There is a rather nice timer app on the watch, and it can easily be invoked via S-Voice. Just say, "set timer 15 minutes", and it will set and start the timer app for 15 minutes.
I use it all the time. No meaningful difference from AW, other than S-Voice is, of course, not as reliable in reading your voice in the first place.

I'm not trying to launch nuclear missiles or solve the national debt from my watch. I want a face that looks like i want it to, the data I need, battery that lasts at least one waking day, and that's about it. And the GS2 does that. Does another? Maybe, but I HAVE the GS2. I've found that the more whistles and bells on anything and the less reliable it is.

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It's sad. Samsung, IMO, has made a huge strategic error in failing to make S-Voice a higher priority.
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I don't get why they can't see that a well functioning S-Voice will make or break wearables for the company. Its that simple.

There are parts of my Motorola 360 I miss however the battery life on the GS2 is absolutely phenomenal. I have had it on since 730 this morning. It's now nearly 2200 and it's only at 80%.
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There are parts of my Motorola 360 I miss however the battery life on the GS2 is absolutely phenomenal. I have had it on since 730 this morning. It's now nearly 2200 and it's only at 80%.
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S-Voice has never worked for me, it always just says "please try again later"

For those of you who have a 3G version of the Gear S2 and don't want to fuss with manually call forwarding anymore, allow me to recommend an option many seem to have forgotten over the last couple of years: Google Voice
I've been using GV for years as the VM on my phone. Now, I have added the Gear S2 3G as another phone on my GV account. This gives two great benefits:
1. Calls automatically forward from phone-to-watch OR watch-to-phone if I don't answer on the originally called device, eliminating the need to enable and disable call forwarding phone-to-watch manually and giving a two-way solution if I leave the watch at home for a change.
2. Gives one unified voicemail box for both my phone and watch numbers. While only a few important people have my watch number for emergency purposes, I don't want people to have to remember multiple numbers to call or worry they are leaving a VM in the "box I rarely check."
To forward the watch's calls, just follow Google Voice's instructions with the manual call forwarding dial codes for your carrier and dial them on your watch AFTER you set the number up in your GV account. And, of course, this is only going to work for those who live in a country GV services (US & Canada, I believe). If you are outside the US & Canada, I'm sorry that I have no similar alternative to offer you.

don't I don't wanna return my phone

I don't wanna return my phone,because I guessing maybe late on Samsung come back with this phone again

So don't. It's still voluntary, and nothing new.
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+1 Im keeping mine. You have more of a chance of dying in a car accident or even being murdered than your Note 7 catching fire. Besides, ALL phones carry a risk. Just google "iphone catches fire" and find the numerous "local" reports. Some even on planes in mid flight. The "National" media won't run these. Wonder why? Make no mistake, this was a targeted attack on Samsung for steadily taking the market away from America's precious Apple and to make way for American juggernaut Google. Btw, you can google "Nexus catches fire", or practically ANY phone model/brand and find recent news reports of said phones burning up. Sorry, I'm not drinking the Kool-aide. Samsung made a kickass phone and I'm not ditching them or the phone because the American media and American mega-corporations don't want them to have the bulk of the cell phone market.
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+1 Im keeping mine. You have more of a chance of dying in a car accident or even being murdered than your Note 7 catching fire. Besides, ALL phones carry a risk. Just google "iphone catches fire" and find the numerous "local" reports. Some even on planes in mid flight. The "National" media won't run these. Wonder why? Make no mistake, this was a targeted attack on Samsung for steadily taking the market away from America's precious Apple and to make way for American juggernaut Google. Btw, you can google "Nexus catches fire", or practically ANY phone model/brand and find recent news reports of said phones burning up. Sorry, I'm not drinking the Kool-aide. Samsung made a kickass phone and I'm not ditching them or the phone because the American media and American mega-corporations don't want them to have the bulk of the cell phone market.
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Im sorry but i thought it was mandatory. I thought they were going to blacklist phones not returned. I returned nine and am so unhappy about it this sucks if i really didn't have to return it. I got NUNEROUS messsges from sprint AND samsung telling me to return it immediately
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Well there trying to make it mandatory. I the US your can't travel when it like on airplanes it's been banned even if the device is off
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Well there trying to make it mandatory. I the US your can't travel when it like on airplanes it's been banned even if the device is off
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Yep, you can be fined up to $150,00+ USD for each day you have it on your person if you try and fly with it.

Still rockin mine
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I didnt want to either but i got an s7e today its running wayyyy smoother

Still have mine, im supposed to be flying in 2 weeks so may switch back to my S4 for that weekend and go back to the note when i get back if they allow me. Hoping they come up with some solution to check the phones so the rest of us dont have to turn it in. I rocked my s4 for 3.5 years and really dont want to go back to it, but the NOTE was the best phone ever and not settling for s7e for next 2 years when S8 will be avail in few months. So pissed!!!!

I bought an S7 Edge off a friend and was going to return my Note to Sprint. Had the 7 Edge for 30 minutes and gave it back to him. There's just nothing like the Note. I'd rather take my chances.

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So don't. It's still voluntary, and nothing new.
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well if you are willing to pay this.
"Now here’s where things get interesting. If a passenger does not comply with the above rules, which is to say that a passenger brings a Note 7 on board and refuses to power it off and store it appropriately, he/she will be subject to a civil penalty of up to $179,933. Additionally, the penalties state that a person violating the above order is also “subject to criminal prosecution” which can result in fines and “imprisonment of up to ten years, or both.”
link below.
http://bgr.com/2016/10/17/galaxy-note-7-explosions-flight-ban-penalties/

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well if you are willing to pay this.
"Now here’s where things get interesting. If a passenger does not comply with the above rules, which is to say that a passenger brings a Note 7 on board and refuses to power it off and store it appropriately, he/she will be subject to a civil penalty of up to $179,933. Additionally, the penalties state that a person violating the above order is also “subject to criminal prosecution” which can result in fines and “imprisonment of up to ten years, or both.”
link below.
http://bgr.com/2016/10/17/galaxy-note-7-explosions-flight-ban-penalties/
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Then don't fly with a Note 7. I plan to use an old phone for flights and switch back to the Note 7 when I'm back.

I will be waiting this thing out so long as the recall is voluntary, until my phone explodes or the note 8 or an equivalent comes out. I think it's a conspiracy. How could this happen to the best phone ever made. It is a perfect work of art packed with all the best and latest new tech and you mean to tell me that they cut corners on the battery. The battery. I don't think so.
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LOL..
http://66.media.tumblr.com/586b3c11d2fd81971783b54f447a065b/tumblr_ofewx7Rt1y1s02vreo1_250.gif

Appreciate the GIF........lol
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Still have mine and been using it roughly. I'll bring my iphone 7 plus when traveling. Note7 is still better than my iphone 7 plus.

So like must i dont wanna give it back and i wont give it back....is anyone else afraid of samsumg or carriers blacklisting the imei's?

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So like must i dont wanna give it back and i wont give it back....is anyone else afraid of samsumg or carriers blacklisting the imei's?
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Went to Best Buy tonight (Las Vegas), mobile sales rep stated that Verizon will begin black listing/deactivating their devices soon. Anyone else hear anything like this?

I wouldn't believe what any rep at best buy said.... They told me that I HAD to shut it off and return it right away.... I walked away and laughed and said "why so u can sell me an iphone"

SEARING HOT s8 plus question, of when will we less fortunate GET FULL BIXBY VOICE

We in the US of A, should by right should not have to wait another month to get the full on bixby voice for the s8s. i know im to check the galaxy app for updates, but trying to side load apks for bixby is MOOT.unless Samsung server sees device, its worthless. i hate half baked bixby. assistant isnt all that good anyway.
btw..........testers, did you have to get apps in galaxy store before it worked.

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We in the US of A, should by right should not have to wait another month to get the full on bixby voice for the s8s. i know im to check the galaxy app for updates, but trying to side load apks for bixby is MOOT.unless Samsung server sees device, its worthless. i hate half baked bixby. assistant isnt all that good anyway.
btw..........testers, did you have to get apps in galaxy store before it worked.
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I disagree. First off it was KNOWN before the devices sold would NOT have it out of the box. If it bothered me that much I wouldn't have bought it instead of buying and claiming it's by right. That will do more than what you are doing. #firstworldproblems
Now with that said...
Yes people got updates prior to it going live for beta tester. There's a tiny thread that got buried with screenshots.
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Tidbits said:
I disagree. First off it was KNOWN before the devices sold would NOT have it out of the box. If it bothered me that much I wouldn't have bought it instead of buying and claiming it's by right. That will do more than what you are doing. #firstworldproblems
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Yes people got updates prior to it going live for beta tester. There's a tiny thread that got buried with screenshots.
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I CALLED SAMSUNG BIXBY SUPPORT, an insider said the 28th or a day later. will update when it takes place.