how much battery does AOD use with just home button ? - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

i have the always on display set with just the home button showing....as i'm still getting used to finding the spot its in when the screen is off....and coming from a note 4 its what i always go to......but as i have a complete black wallpaper with only the home button showing on the lock screen....how much battery would that use ?
also...is there a way to have to use less pressure when pressing the home symbol to turn screen on ?
thanks in advance for any replies.

Setting/display/navigation bar and at the bottom is the slider to control home button pressure sensitivity. Don't know about the other question though sorry.

AOD battery use is negligible. If you're worrying about battery drain, then you shouldn't. Even if you used the full AOD features (time and date widget etc) you're only looking at 1-2% extra usage throughout the day. The home button alone would be using even less by that logic.
Also I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the lockscreen background. You can use any wallpaper you want and it will still look the same with AOD. Amoled screens can selectively turn on just the specific pixels it needs to display your home button and/or information while the rest of your screen is actually physically off so it will be black regardless.

right..thanks.....wasnt sure if always on display had an option to have a wallpaper too.......new to the phone
thank you.

My pleasure.
Enjoy your new phone bud.

xeathpk said:
AOD battery use is negligible. If you're worrying about battery drain, then you shouldn't. Even if you used the full AOD features (time and date widget etc) you're only looking at 1-2% extra usage throughout the day. The home button alone would be using even less by that logic.
Also I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the lockscreen background. You can use any wallpaper you want and it will still look the same with AOD. Amoled screens can selectively turn on just the specific pixels it needs to display your home button and/or information while the rest of your screen is actually physically off so it will be black regardless.
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Thats not entirely accurate, its more like 1% an hour.
Because of some burnin protections the AOD will wake yoir device few times every minute so it will consume more battery.
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xeathpk said:
AOD battery use is negligible. If you're worrying about battery drain, then you shouldn't. Even if you used the full AOD features (time and date widget etc) you're only looking at 1-2% extra usage throughout the day. The home button alone would be using even less by that logic.
Also I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the lockscreen background. You can use any wallpaper you want and it will still look the same with AOD. Amoled screens can selectively turn on just the specific pixels it needs to display your home button and/or information while the rest of your screen is actually physically off so it will be black regardless.
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When I turn on AOD, my overnight standby battery drain is 22% (100% to 78%)
When I turn it off, my overnight standby battery drain is 2% (100% to 98%)
It might not be that much but that's the result of my most recent test.

Related

another way to save battery..and your eyes too

i downloaded this apps name
screen filter
it will reduce the brightness of your screen that is far more better than the android brightness..just dont set the brightness to 0 because it will turn your brightness off
thanks
will try it
works especially well with the "darkness" script at night, as mentioned in This Thread Thanks to Adolf1994 my LED will not blind me at night any more! (script only for rooted 2.1 and above)
how does the app work? and how much battery can it save, for example, a day?
Just what I wanted for day-to-day use.
I prefer renderFX's "night mode" for eye-saving, but this is good for battery-saving. My display is set at 0% and still is the most battery-hungry thing on my phone...
thanks
you reminded me that there's such a app
very useful
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WORD OF CAUTION!!!!!
DO NOT LEAVE THIS APP ON WHILE YOUR PHONE SLEEPS!!!
I haven't determined that this is the culprit, but last night I went from ~80% to ~25%, all the while having WI-FI off (I have 3G off always anyway), closed most programs, and had a screen filter on 30%.
I think the filter prevented the phone from fully sleeping or something....
Just some caution, please try it and report back.
I haven't experienced that and I've been using it for 5days..anyway in order to track the culprit,install an APk named process watch dog.
Ty man
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phflorian said:
how does the app work? and how much battery can it save, for example, a day?
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Actually, it will not save battery, if not drain it faster.
Here's why:
What this app is doing is applying a transparent dark filter over the screen,
so that you can look at it in a dark enviroment and not hurt your eyes from the brightness.
BUT the screen itself uses exactly the same power to light, but you don't see it, because the filter is there.
For example: if you set your brightness to FULL and then apply the filter and make it really dark, the battery drain will be the same as if you didn't apply the filter.
That's the way TFT screens work.
Now, this filter is running constantly, so it's a CPU stresser, thus battery drainer.
That being said, I love the app and I always have it on while I'm in the movies,
but I don't recommend it for daily use 24/7.
Thanks in the darkness it's just the best app
My_Immortal said:
Actually, it will not save battery, if not drain it faster.
Here's why:
What this app is doing is applying a transparent dark filter over the screen,
so that you can look at it in a dark enviroment and not hurt your eyes from the brightness.
BUT the screen itself uses exactly the same power to light, but you don't see it, because the filter is there.
For example: if you set your brightness to FULL and then apply the filter and make it really dark, the battery drain will be the same as if you didn't apply the filter.
That's the way TFT screens work.
Now, this filter is running constantly, so it's a CPU stresser, thus battery drainer.
That being said, I love the app and I always have it on while I'm in the movies,
but I don't recommend it for daily use 24/7.
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I use it every night and I don't think it drains battery noticeably. 1% per hour maybe?
My_Immortal said:
Actually, it will not save battery, if not drain it faster.
Here's why:
What this app is doing is applying a transparent dark filter over the screen,
so that you can look at it in a dark enviroment and not hurt your eyes from the brightness.
BUT the screen itself uses exactly the same power to light, but you don't see it, because the filter is there.
For example: if you set your brightness to FULL and then apply the filter and make it really dark, the battery drain will be the same as if you didn't apply the filter.
That's the way TFT screens work.
Now, this filter is running constantly, so it's a CPU stresser, thus battery drainer.
That being said, I love the app and I always have it on while I'm in the movies,
but I don't recommend it for daily use 24/7.
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+1 Actually, it will not save battery, if not drain it faster.
alamatnitotoy said:
i downloaded this apps name
screen filter
it will reduce the brightness of your screen that is far more better than the android brightness..just dont set the brightness to 0 because it will turn your brightness off
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use the CF3D Nightmode its better and doesn't waste battery
DrKrFfXx said:
I use it every night and I don't think it drains battery noticeably. 1% per hour maybe?
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Depending in your personal phone usage, it might not be a battery drainer, but, as I explained above, it's not a saver either.

[Q] How do you make the battery life better on this

I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
Jawdude said:
I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
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I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
I did too before I made the changes below. These all work with the Stock Rom.
1. Installed No Lock (so that I don't have to swipe the screen to unlock, just push the power button)
2. Set screen to turn off in 30 seconds.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
4. Installed Screen Filter (lets me really darken my screen at night.
Try those and see how you do.
5. I then flashed the Infused Rom (I now get up to 10-14 hours)
Jawdude said:
I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
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Custom kernal and rom
Running refused and infusion 1.8 rom and I get 14 hours with heavy data use
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Also, Turn off GPS and Wifi when you're not using them.
Battery
After much experimenting and monitoring of battery use I find that the biggest drain is the screen display, so go to settings-->display-->brightness and lower the screen brightness as low as you comfortably can. Also when you you are not using the phone make sure the screen is off, I have trained myself to automatically hit the power button every time I put down the phone. If you listen to music through your phone make sure the settings on your music players allow the phone to play when the screen is off and turn the screen off while it plays.
GPS also drains the battery, so I keep it turned off when I don't use the Nav. When I use the Nav I know the battery will drain at a rapid pace, nothing you can do there, even if I have the phone plugged in to car power while using Nav it still drains the battery! Drains slower than unplugged navigating but still drains.
If your watching videos then your S.O.L. there's really nothing you can do that will increase battery life enough to make a difference during video playback.
I get 10-12 hours with regular use and stock rom. Worst was 8 hours best was 24.
Thanks for all the advice this has really helped my battery
Truckerglenn said:
I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
There was a recent post that showed a shortcut for changing the screen brightness from the homescreen without any additional software. First, turn off auto brightness. Second, tap and hold the menu bar at the top. Third, slide left to reduce the screen brightness and right to increase screen brightness.
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menzoom said:
After much experimenting and monitoring of battery use I find that the biggest drain is the screen display, so go to settings-->display-->brightness and lower the screen brightness as low as you comfortably can. Also when you you are not using the phone make sure the screen is off, I have trained myself to automatically hit the power button every time I put down the phone. If you listen to music through your phone make sure the settings on your music players allow the phone to play when the screen is off and turn the screen off while it plays.
GPS also drains the battery, so I keep it turned off when I don't use the Nav. When I use the Nav I know the battery will drain at a rapid pace, nothing you can do there, even if I have the phone plugged in to car power while using Nav it still drains the battery! Drains slower than unplugged navigating but still drains.
If your watching videos then your S.O.L. there's really nothing you can do that will increase battery life enough to make a difference during video playback.
I get 10-12 hours with regular use and stock rom. Worst was 8 hours best was 24.
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How does it drain your battery when its plugged into the car? I have never seen that on any cell phone. That my friend is messed up if true.
reissy said:
How does it drain your battery when its plugged into the car? I have never seen that on any cell phone. That my friend is messed up if true.
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It seems that Samsung ****ed up and included phone CPU/screen/etc usage when measuring battery charge current.
This means that the 600 mA stock battery charge current limit isn't just going to the battery, it's split between battery/screen/CPU. If screen/CPU/etc go above 600 mA (Navigation at full brightness seems to be the most common way), battery starts draining.
It also means that unless there's something I'm missing (which I could be since the MAX8998 datasheet is super-ultra-secret), our phone isn't going to be able to do proper charge termination - if the screen is on/CPU is running, it will cause a falsely high battery charge current reading, which will cause charging to fail to terminate.
Juice defender
I found that juice defender helped my battery and i just use the free version it's a great app
I used Iphone 3g 3gs 4. None of them drain battery like this one. First time use Android phone and getting a bit disappointed of this phone. It's draining 2% every 5 mins and im using stock Rom.
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Install a ROM. Infused v2 nearly doubled my screen-on battery life and tripled my screen-off battery life.
sweetboy02125 said:
I used Iphone 3g 3gs 4. None of them drain battery like this one. First time use Android phone and getting a bit disappointed of this phone. It's draining 2% every 5 mins and im using stock Rom.
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That's excessive... Rogue app maybe?
ptgptg said:
Truckerglenn said:
I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
There was a recent post that showed a shortcut for changing the screen brightness from the homescreen without any additional software. First, turn off auto brightness. Second, tap and hold the menu bar at the top. Third, slide left to reduce the screen brightness and right to increase screen brightness.
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Thanks I never new that
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look in about phone battery use to identify the biggest battery user, it should be the screen. anything else and there is a problem.
the cell standby may go high on froyo rom, turning on flight mode and turning it off will correct that, it's an android bug.
on gingerbread the android os or android system may hog battery occasionally. some think it is the wifi sleep policy but it pops up on me without setting the sleep policy. the fix for that is to pull the battery for a couple minutes and put it back in and restart the phone.
next manage the screen brightness
install a custom rom, there are issues with certain firmware keeping sensors active wen they shouldn't be.
turn off unneeded sync options (i find that auto fetching my email uses a lot especially with my gmail already set to sync),
use wifi when you use the internet if possible, turn it off when out and about.
monitor cpu useage of apps that are cached in the task manager
kill apps that use cpu
if needed turn the max cpu clock down to 800mhz
set "use wireless networks" for location when possible for general location (limited to city level at times)
Dani897 said:
look in about phone battery use to identify the biggest battery user, it should be the screen. anything else and there is a problem.
the cell standby may go high on froyo rom, turning on flight mode and turning it off will correct that, it's an android bug.
on gingerbread the android os or android system may hog battery occasionally. some think it is the wifi sleep policy but it pops up on me without setting the sleep policy. the fix for that is to pull the battery for a couple minutes and put it back in and restart the phone.
next manage the screen brightness
install a custom rom, there are issues with certain firmware keeping sensors active wen they shouldn't be.
turn off unneeded sync options (i find that auto fetching my email uses a lot especially with my gmail already set to sync),
use wifi when you use the internet if possible, turn it off when out and about.
monitor cpu useage of apps that are cached in the task manager
kill apps that use cpu
if needed turn the max cpu clock down to 800mhz
set "use wireless networks" for location when possible for general location (limited to city level at times)
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Actually, high cell standby is OK if the phone is screen-off often.
Cell standby is always my top user - but my phone is sitting on my desk with the screen off frequently, in a location with weak signal. Weak signal makes cell standby usage go WAY up.
Syncwifi application is awesome for extending sync settings to gain more battery
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Using titanium backup I froze drm content 2.2.1 and this significantly increased my battery life.
Sent from my Infuse. It is what it isn't.
JuiceDefender!!
I agree JuiceDefender works!! I had to charge in the middle of the day. Now with moderate use it will last all day Im on stock Rom.
I easily get 2 days out of my Infuse, no idea how some of you are managing to only get 8 hours. After rooting my phone and freezing the bloat i easily get twice the battery life of my prior iPhone 3GS.

Double tap to wake (no root required)

I finally found an app that allows double tap to wake without root! Now you can keep your power and home buttons from getting all gunked up. See the attachment for the APK. According to the website below, this used to be available in the Play Store. I guess it was removed because Google doesn't like to allow apps to wake the screen?
http://www.gammerson.com/2015/06/how-to-enable-double-tap-wake-up-in-android-device.html
Edit: Warning - app seems to use a lot of battery when screen is off
Thanks, but curious if this will be a battery drainer with wakelocks ?
Zorachus said:
Thanks, but curious if this will be a battery drainer with wakelocks ?
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I'm not sure how much it affects battery since I just found the app today. I noticed in the battery stats that the screen on time continues to increase even though the screen is off.
The app keeps the screen on so that will increase battery drainage.
Why don't you give Gravity Screen a try ?
It's one of the reasons to own an Android....
This WILL drain your battery. Guaranteed.
pieces of cake said:
This WILL drain your battery. Guaranteed.
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Why does it drain the battery? The screen appears to be completely off. I looked at the screen with a flashlight and couldn't see any pixels on. Is it preventing the phone from entering a low CPU use sleep state?
cmart0125 said:
The app keeps the screen on so that will increase battery drainage.
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bryanhayn said:
Why does it drain the battery? The screen appears to be completely off.
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If it's keeping the screen on, but only displaying "total blackness", then any AMOLED display (such as on our Note 5 devices) will APPEAR to be completely off (as none of the pixels are illuminated) even if the display is still "alive." If the screen is alive, then the device isn't going into suspend (sleep), so it would destroy idle battery life. Instead of only dropping 1% (or less) of battery charge an hour, you'd start dropping 7-10% an hour.
re: double tap
pieces of cake said:
This WILL drain your battery. Guaranteed.
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The reason it uses a lot of battery is because it uses the proximity sensor
and it keeps it enabled all the time.
Same holds true for any of the double tap screen-on apps at the playstore.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
Unfortunate that you can't set a duration for it to remain active after the screen has gone off (e.g. 10 seconds, to use when the screen unintentionally turns off) so that it doesn't continue to drain battery. Anyone know of a non-root way to disable it after a given duration or another app that can perform this function?
ElQuixote said:
Unfortunate that you can't set a duration for it to remain active after the screen has gone off (e.g. 10 seconds, to use when the screen unintentionally turns off) so that it doesn't continue to drain battery. Anyone know of a non-root way to disable it after a given duration or another app that can perform this function?
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use knockon app from jawomo who brought you floatify headsup notifications.
or use knockr from playstore from angs apps.
Can someone give me the information about the app?
Is this app make battery draining?
Is battery usage of this app is big?
adityakumara said:
Can someone give me the information about the app?
Is this app make battery draining?
Is battery usage of this app is big?
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Read the previous page and all your questions will be answered :good:
ravijani said:
use knockon app from jawomo who brought you floatify headsup notifications.
or use knockr from playstore from angs apps.
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Knockon Jawomo is great , why not LCD though?.. I want a double tap to wake simple one no adds! Must be a decent tap to wake out there for LCD

Alternative for Always On Display

I know that Always On Display saves battery for people who frequently turn on their phone to see the time/notifications.
But, it kill more battery for people who dont turn on their phone display often.
So, is there a way to alter this feature so that the 'Always on Display' turns on only on screen tap/double tap.
What i want is,
the screen should be off,
when i tap/double tap the screen - Always on display must show the time/notifications for few seconds
when i click the home/power button, the normal lock-screen must be displayed
IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT?
Nope. Its either on or off.
Theres one thing that u can do but it still be on just in a bit different way. Turn off the always on display then set night clock. In my case i do 00:00 ~ 23:59. Still looking a way how to put clock as edge feed
Always On should definitively have a TIMER; it's absurd to work during the night and I don't need the night clock either (the only one that can currently stop the Always On).....
ionutdicu said:
Always On should definitively have a TIMER; it's absurd to work during the night and I don't need the night clock either (the only one that can currently stop the Always On).....
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You can put the phone on its face. That will turn it off, just make sure you put a cloth under it so that you dont scratch the screen.
In my testing i found that AOD takes 3-4% in 9hrs overnight, thats less than 0.5%/hr. Very solid if you ask me
FalconFX said:
You can put the phone on its face. That will turn it off, just make sure you put a cloth under it so that you dont scratch the screen.
In my testing i found that AOD takes 3-4% in 9hrs overnight, thats less than 0.5%/hr. Very solid if you ask me
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I prefer to be done automatically, I really think that it is something easily achievable by Samsung.
And is is not only about battery consumption but also about screen burn-in, despite all the watch movement.....
I'm using acDisplay from the play store. It allows you to cover the proximity sensor and then let go. Also kicks on when you pick it up.
newpraneeth said:
I know that Always On Display saves battery for people who frequently turn on their phone to see the time/notifications.
But, it kill more battery for people who dont turn on their phone display often.
So, is there a way to alter this feature so that the 'Always on Display' turns on only on screen tap/double tap.
What i want is,
the screen should be off,
when i tap/double tap the screen - Always on display must show the time/notifications for few seconds
when i click the home/power button, the normal lock-screen must be displayed
IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT?
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Use AC Display apk, I think that's what you need

watchmaker battery drain

I have big concerns of consumption of battery with this application
Am I the only one?
You have can be trick?
Thank you
Some watch faces are too bright or consume too much battery in their always-on state. Try a watch face that has a dimmer always-on state, or take your favourite watch faces, and change their always-on state to have higher opacity.
I made a dial I same, quite black
I am going to try a reset of the watch, seen that nobody confirms me the same problem
I use this app(watchmaker) and consumption with always on display is approximately 25/30 % per day.
Wifi is switched off , Bluetooth used when needed.
krca5 said:
I use this app(watchmaker) and consumption with always on display is approximately 25/30 % per day.
Wifi is switched off , Bluetooth used when needed.
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Either some functionality on your watch is disabled or something is wrong here. No way, watchmaker can beat stock watchface. I loose 45-55 percent a day with stock gear dashboard watchface. AOD, wake-up gesture, shealth features and bluetooth on. Wifi auto. NFC, bt connection notifications off. Using GPS occasionally. Without AOD i can easily get 3 and a half day. I've never saw anyone claim to can get more than 2 days with AOD on on the forum before, so this is really confusing.
You can believe or not, but for me the battery consumption with watchmaker is lower than with stock Watchface. it is also true that some Watchface consume a little more, but we are talking about up to 10% more per day, i start to use Watch at 10am and remove Watch at 23pm,all' shealt notification on,wifi off,gps off, Bluetooth when needed,AOD always on,screen brightness 7. When use stock Watchface i lose 45/55% of battery per day.
I think I may have worked out what is going wrong, perhaps one of the developers can confirm,
under ‘my watches’ I have a number of other whatchfaces that I have downloaded, these aren’t selected on my watch but are there as an option, where as the chosen one only has basic functions, the others all have fancy meters, data sourcing apps - after deleting these from my phone and checking they are not available for selection on my watch the battery life seems to be normal, I wonder if the other watch faces are in some way working in the background and therefore draining the power even though I am not actually viewing them
It is Wi-fi connection what drains LOT of power. Be sure it is turned off when not in use to keep your power as long as possible.

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