This is a weird issue, if you select battery saver as the method for location services it will not work unless you have wifi on or scanning on. Battery saver users WiFi and mobile networks to determine location. On my other phones I didn't need wifi on as it would user my mobile data to give my location. Not looking for an accurate location just something close so I can receive weather alerts or traffic reports
Sorry that I am not clear what you mean "select battery saver as the method for location services". My location service works fine even if I have disabled WLAN when I have a walk every evening.
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For some reason my router’s location is way off (in a different state). I bought it off eBay few months back, perhaps it is still showing previous owner’s location.
From what I could find out, Google periodically updates their location database with data gathered using their street view cars or with those anonymously submitted by users (using apps like Google maps mobile). Now I’m wondering if there is a way for me to manually submit my own data or better yet somehow enter my WiFi router’s location data into the phone so whenever I’m connected to my home WiFi my location wont be detected at a different state?
If changing WiFi location is not possible then is there a way to at least give Cell tower location priority over Wi-Fi ? Because my cell tower location is far more accurate (down to like 5km, which is much better than having a location in a different state 1000km away).
I know this is a stupid question, and I'm actually embarrassed that it's my first.. but, does 4G get turned off automatically when I connect to a WiFi network? I know it maintains a connection to the data network for other services, but what about 4G specifically?
I think I answered my own question.. In the Phone Status info page the "mobile network state" DOES toggle between connected/disconnected based on my wifi status.
Not fully, or servcies such as mms would not work. However you can enable this to happen through Juice Defender, and possibly other applications as well. I fully disable network data with wifi connected through juice defender, only drawback I see is unable to send/rec mms untill you disable wifi, allowing the network connection to estblish itself again.
edit: This is only for the data network portion, voice services can and will still carry over the 4g conenction which is just enhanced 3g
Does it go to a state that uses less power than the "usual" network mode? I'm looking for ways to conserve power while maintaining full functionality. Using Llama and JuiceDefender right now also.
Juice Defender can disable the data portion of the network which saves battery when connected with wifi. In the on the "About" screen in Juice Defender scroll down, there will be an option that says "disable on wifi" under which you can select to disable the network data
G'day all...
I have a TF101G and I have noticed that the mobile broadband seens to be consistently at the top of the battery usage list even when I have mobile data disabled and (get this) even when I have the SIM card removed.
My TF101G spends most of its life within WiFi range and I only need the 3G when it's out of the house.
Does anyone have any idea how to disable the mobile broadband transmission? Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems dumb that it's still using battery to check in even when I tell it not to use the 3G.
Thanks,
Alex.
How have you disabled it?
I've seen many widgets/apps that say they're capable of disabling APN connections but the only thing they do is modify the APN connection name, so the 3G is still active but it never connects due to APN's changed name. The problem is that since 3G is not disabled at all, it might still use battery.
If you disabled from System > Wireless and Network > Mobile Network > Use packed data then 3G is turned off for sure. Also any system app that could manage that should be able to enable/disable that option.
Thanks for the reply.
I did actually try changing the APN as well as removing the SIM card. I still see continuous battery usage for Mobile standby at the top of my usage graphs in Aplications > Battery use.
I don't actually have the "Use packed data" option under System > Wireless and Network > Mobile Network - I only have Data enabled, Data roaming, Access Point Names, Use only 2G networks and Network operators.
I can always to to flight mode for no connectivity, but I can't for the life of me figure out how I can make the TF101G WiFi-only. Surely there must be some way of doing it. Maybe the forthcoming ICS update will fix it - we live in hope.
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I don't actually have the "Use packed data" option under System > Wireless and Network > Mobile Network - I only have Data enabled, Data roaming, Access Point Names, Use only 2G networks and Network operators.
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Sorry, I was refering to "Data enabled". If "Data enabled" is toggled, 3g is enabled despite the APN name's. Maybe you could try to disable "Data enabled" and see if it doesn't consume more battery.
First thing I tried!
No joy there.
Problem solved.
See post by Notdawa in http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...p/16657-no-firmware-update-me.html#post149760
It's simply a matter of putting it in flight mode and then manually enabling WiFi. It works a treat!
I have now TW 9.2.2.4 FW and still if i do flightmode and then wifi on, i see cell standy as the biggest power consumer . to me it seems somehow the modem hardware is not properly switched off. anyone knows what modem chipset it is? or what could be the reason why this behavior?
If i do reboot with 3G modem off (so flightmode but with WiFi on), i get 'cell standby' as big power consumer after few hours. But reboot with 3G on (but no mobile data enabled) and also WiFi connected, then goingto flightmode + WiFi does not show 'cell standby' in battery chart . I had many problems and reboots with first ICS {9.2.2.3}, hopefully now i can get long and controlled battery life and no empty battery beeps in middle of night.
Hi there.
I have been recently working outside my home country and I disable my mobile data as soon as I reach the airport.
My Nexus 5, now with 4.4.3 reports 0 bytes of data when I am in roaming and I never got a notification or any sort of activity that may point to a data access being made, yet my service provider sent a big bill with many 10KB accesses during the time I was in roaming.
The same problem might exist while at my home country, but since I have a few hundreds of MB to use each month, I can't really tell.
Anyone else is facing the same problem?
I will temporarily ask my service provider to block my data access while in roaming, but I would like to understand if that is some sort of Android bug or a service provider charging what it shouldn't.
I've looked a bit more into this issue and I suspect that it was the Google Location Services that try to obtain the positioning from the cellular mobile network.
I've installed the Network Monitor Mini and it showed me a few times that process has a residual network usage.
Since I'm on Wifi most of the time, I assumed that network usage was on the WiFi but now I understand that being connected to the WiFi doesn't mean that the phone cannot use cellular data.
Can anyone that uses little Mobile Data (disabled in the Settings most of the time) confirm that the eventually you get some cellular data charged if you have the Location Settings set to use the mobile networks?
Sorry for the monologue, but this might be useful for someone that may face this problem in the feature.
After being more attentive to the network usage pointed by Network Monitor Mini, I think I found the culprit.
I've spent the last weeks with mobile data completely off, using only WiFi, yet on a couple of occasions I noticed Network Monitor Mini reporting minimal network usage being made when no know network WiFi was around.
As the screenshot shows, the WiFi is not connected to any known access point, yet some data was being uploaded by one of those processes.
I think the phone is trying to ping the cellular antenna for a location, thus accounting for mobile data access.
I've disabled the location and I will keep monitoring the data usage to see if that is the real culprit. Also noticed that Network Monitor Mini has a traffic breakdown mode per interface. I'll use that to distinguish wifi and cellular data.
why not just disable data complete, a data signal wont even appear because it wont be connected to data? go to main settings, more, mobile networks, data enabled.. now uncheck it and your data connection will disappear, but your phone connection will stay.
edit.. and if you have root, you can install the disable service app, then you can disable the 5 differing types of location services that your phone uses.
Hi simms22.
Like I said on the first post, that was the first thing I did in the airport. I'm not saying simply disabling roaming data, I disabled data completely.
The point I'm trying to show is that even with mobile data disabled, in roaming I still got several tiny chunks of data registered by my operator and I occasionally noticed Network Monitor Mini showing 0.1KB upload, as shown in the screenshot.
Regards.
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Hi simms22.
Like I said on the first post, that was the first thing I did in the airport. I'm not saying simply disabling roaming data, I disabled data completely.
The point I'm trying to show is that even with mobile data disabled, in roaming I still got several tiny chunks of data registered by my operator and I occasionally noticed Network Monitor Mini showing 0.1KB upload, as shown in the screenshot.
Regards.
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well, a little bit of data can be transferred through the phone signal(sms). do you have disabled in wifi settings, bottom right three dots, advanced, scanning always available? that uses the wifi to scan for location even when wifi is off, maybe they do that with the mobile signal as well. anyways, about a month ago, google location services kept waking my device non stop, so i completely disabled them in the google play services using the disable service app(i have root). now google never checks for my location unless i let it.
Hey.
I disabled the Location services in Settings, restricted the background data and so far it has been three days with no data accesses registered by my provider.
I don't think the background data is responsible for the traffic so I will wait a couple more days and then re-enable it.
I think the Location services are useful and I do like those small things it offers like weather prediction for where you are, where you parked the car, time to go home/work and movie times near you. The only problem is that it doesn't seem to respect the Mobile data status.
Just raised an issue in the AOSP tracker
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VuDuCuRSe said:
Just raised an issue in the AOSP tracker
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=72332&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
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It also happens with me but I have a Galaxy S4. It's a huge defect to alow location to consume mobile data even with the data roaming and mobile data disabled.
Hi,
I just got a Honor view 10 and I have a problem that I can't solve even after a complete reset
My Wi-Fi is still active even when the phone is in standby
I see it in the stats of the battery and I constantly receive notifications while I'm not in 4G
Of course I change the option "Wi-Fi active standby" to NEVER in the Wi-Fi settings and "Search Wi-Fi" to OFF in the location settings
I think it's due to a service or an application that keeps the wifi enabled but I can't find which one..
https://dl.xda-developers.com/4/4/2....jpg?key=TBYWdqJdASaxJYF8mh5Rng&ts=1528281354
* This screenshot is not mine but I exactly have the same result about Wi-Fi
Thanks,
chrxtoph said:
Hi,
I just got a Honor view 10 and I have a problem that I can't solve even after a complete reset
My Wi-Fi is still active even when the phone is in standby
I see it in the stats of the battery and I constantly receive notifications while I'm not in 4G
Of course I change the option "Wi-Fi active standby" to NEVER in the Wi-Fi settings and "Search Wi-Fi" to OFF in the location settings
I think it's due to a service or an application that keeps the wifi enabled but I can't find which one..
https://dl.xda-developers.com/4/4/2....jpg?key=TBYWdqJdASaxJYF8mh5Rng&ts=1528281354
* This screenshot is not mine but I exactly have the same result about Wi-Fi
Thanks,
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Go to settings >search scanning >turn off wifi and Bluetooth scanning