My mom owns a Wiko Tommy (there isn't a dedicated forum for this device, so I try here) and it has an issue with Apps which running in background, they are always killed. An exception is WhatsApp, but I think because she use it continuously.
The device has really few apps installed (Nova Launcher, two icon packs, Chronus, WhatsApp, and the app of her provider), and all unnecessary System apps are disabled.
I noticed the issue because Chronus widgets don't start at boot, if I don't open the app, and the weather doesn't update automatically. I check in "Running services" under "Developer options" and I see almost exclusively system services, but not Chronus, neither in Cached processes.
I tried to add Chronus in White Lists for the device optimizing (I don't know what's its English translation) system app (really? :cyclops, with no result. Same with adding it in Ignore (Battery) optimizations, and the Autostart and StaY! (awful app, its method is bring in the foreground for about a second the selected app), and KeppRunning (I think it needs root or it's killed by the OS).
I've not found any root method for this device and any custom recovery.
Any advice?
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There's two real reasons to do so
To remove the icon from the drawer (in which case it is easy)
Because they run as a background service which uses the internet or something else (perhaps you notice an impact on your battery life)
Because you started and can't stop now
I think I'm at three. Right now, I'm just curious what all these pre-installed apps do. I've made a list of all applications, including whether you can disable them - see the attachment or
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Please do provide information for the list. There are some gaps from before I started the list (including what some disabled apps do in terms of battery life, internet usage and other things).
In particular I cannot identify what apps are responsible for the running process "Motorola Services", nor what this does.
Finally, I would just like to collect information on what other things such as "com.qualcomm.atfwd" do (just out of curiosity).
A few remarks:
- Google uses Google Play Services to bring the latest API features (like Google Maps V2, the new Geolocation API, Google Cloud Messaging etc.) to the end users without the need of a complete OS upgrade. If you disable it, you will lose features (and even functionality) in a bunch of third party apps. Also it does not have an icon in the app drawer.
- Google Search is not just the search bar on the home screen, it is the entire Google Now feature. I guess it is not a problem if you disable it, but you will lose Google Now as well.
- Google One Time Init is the wizard you are presented at first startup and after every factory reset. You can disable it but it does not have much effect on the phone. I guess the other similar app (One Time Init) is its Motorola-branded counterpart.
- Launcher is the default home screen of the device, you can disable it if you have any third party launchers installed. Don't disable it otherwise, or you will have a serious problem.
- Tags is the AOSP NFC app, since we don't have built-in NFC chip it is safe to disable.
Thanks Debaj, I've updated the google document.
When you say the launcher is the home screen, does that include the dock and app drawer?
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When you say the launcher is the home screen, does that include the dock and app drawer?
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Yep, exactly.
You're still updating the list? I could help you a little
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You're still updating the list? I could help you a little
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Yes, I still want to work on the list. Any help that you can give is appreciated. Bear in mind that you can add comments to the google docs spreadsheet, so my delay in replying won't prevent you from updating the sheet.
I plan to update to 4.4.2 soon as well, then I'll be able to do some tests on what affect these changes have on the battery life.
In windows one can disable useless running services. Is there a way to do the same in Android? Seems that would save some resources - such as battery. I searched, but could find no real info...
Thanks!
Yes and no. In Android only one foreground app can run at a time, but there are background services too. They are usually important system services, but apps can add them too (they're needed to receive push notifications for example).
Go to Settings > Apps, swipe right to "Running". Then you can toggle between "Cached background processes" and "Running services". Killing a cached process (a previously active foreground app) doesn't really make a difference since it wasn't running anyway. Killing a service sometimes has an effect, but usually the service restarts automatically.
To permanently shut down a service, use the app Greenify. It "hibernates" apps with background services but still lets you run the app when you need it. Keep in mind that you lose the functionality of that service (e.g. if you hibernate Facebook, you won't receive notifications when you receive Facebook messages).
But honestly, unless you installed some badly coded apps that use too many services, you probably don't need to.
Thank you very much for the reply and info. I installed the app "Greenify" - and it is great the way it's set up. Like you said, if not all - most apps will start-up if stopped running in the background when not using, and *that*, IMO, is a great way to stop wasting the poor battery performance (mainly because of age) of the TF101 (tablet only).
Many thanks! :good:
Cal
I had given my old Android 2.3 phone and a fairly new Android 4.4 tablet to my kid.
Within about a month, both devices basically became non-functional on start up.
After some analysis, it became clear that all the games and recreational apps my kid installed was causing the problem: they were all built to auto-start on device boot up, and they lacked an option to tell them not to auto-start on device boot up.
Since both devices were rooted, I used a tool (Clean Master) that quickly identified the auto-start apps and stopped them from auto-starting.
My question is this:
Why would an app developer build an app that auto-starts with no option to disable that? Many auto start apps will just kill the usability of the device, and it isn't trivial finding out why.
If the device was not rooted, there's probably no way to stop these apps except to uninstall them. If Android allows a third-party app on a non-rooted device to auto-start, why isn't there an app that works on non-rooted devices to stop these apps from auto-starting?
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I had given my old Android 2.3 phone and a fairly new Android 4.4 tablet to my kid.
Within about a month, both devices basically became non-functional on start up.
After some analysis, it became clear that all the games and recreational apps my kid installed was causing the problem: they were all built to auto-start on device boot up, and they lacked an option to tell them not to auto-start on device boot up.
Since both devices were rooted, I used a tool (Clean Master) that quickly identified the auto-start apps and stopped them from auto-starting.
My question is this:
Why would an app developer build an app that auto-starts with no option to disable that? Many auto start apps will just kill the usability of the device, and it isn't trivial finding out why.
If the device was not rooted, there's probably no way to stop these apps except to uninstall them. If Android allows a third-party app on a non-rooted device to auto-start, why isn't there an app that works on non-rooted devices to stop these apps from auto-starting?
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Actually, there were non-root apps that could disable auto-start of other normal apps till JellyBean 4.2 I guess.
Then came the security enforcements which prevented this for non-root users.
Android assumes that an app necessarily needs auto-starting at boot for the smooth working of the app.
There's a reason behind that.
For example, if you disable auto start of FB messenger or WhatsApp, you won't automatically get notifications unless you open it one time so that certain services begin to run in background.
The same goes for your kid's apps like Talking Tom, which gives essential notifications (from a kid's point of view) like "I'm Hungry" or "I wanna pee" or something like that
But you have non-root apps too (you gotta dig a lil deeper to find them) which doesn't work like root apps, that is, doesn't disable them to start at boot. Instead, they stop the apps/services after booting that's disabled in that app.
Apps like CC Cleaner or the so-called antivirus apps work that way only
Hello,
Is anyone on Honor 8 / EMUI 4.1 able to get chrome notifications?
I've been checking Chrome settings and found nothing wrong, expect for the fact I don't seem to be able to add chrome to the list of apps that can ignore battery optimization, since it is not listed. I'm not sure if this is the reason though.
Please share your ideas / suggestions.
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It's because Chrome is a system app already so it is by default protected. Except it doesn't even work correctly probably because of their ram management, which kind of make this phone useless for receiving notification for me.
I tried adding Google Clock and S-Health to protected apps and also lock it in the "recent apps" menu, they still get forced close and the alarm didn't ring or it stopped counting steps.
I haven't used EMUI5 yet to know if it's fixed.
Hello!
Solution found! The hint (system app) of the previous post made me try this:
1-Uninstall Chrome (using TiBu - root needed)
2-Reinstall Chrome from Play Store
3-Configure settings to allow notifications from wanted pages
4-Add Chrome to the list of apps that can ignore battery optimizations
So far it is working as expected...
About the other notification issues I've faced before (Google Keep, WhatsApp,...) I've solved it after enabling "keep mobile data on when sleeping", besides adding the app to the ignore battery optimization list, of course.
RM
I have found that same exempt setting as well, unfortunately Chrome isn't in the list so I guess that's why you have to root to remove it first and readd it as third party app for it to show up.
To much effort to just get notification working, a basic feature of all phones and risk losing warranty and Android Pay access.
To make it clear for others:
1. add the app to the Protected apps list (settings - advanced settings - battery manager - protected apps).
2. go to settings - apps - advanced - exempt from battery optimization - select the drop down list and and select "all apps" - find your app and set it to allow.
Huawei programmers must have pride themselves in putting settings inside convoluted maze that's impossible to find.
You might also want to add Settings - Advanced Settings - Battery Manger - Upper right gear - keep mobile data on during sleep.
I second you about this kind of maze that we must run to just have notifications, but, on the other hand I'm kind of OK with it, as soon I can find a way to solve matter!
RM
Some apps are starting services even if the App is disabled through "App Ops" (Run at startup).
However some apps still have services starting in the background.
I have Developers Options enabled and don't have the "Running Services" options and would like to stop them from starting rather than having to stop them manually.
Other apps manager do show that "App Ops" disabled the Boot Up.
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I just downloaded Blocker Apps and seems to have many services that you can enable/disable from each application and not sure what to look for.
Skype is an example of app that I disable but always manages to start a service and process in the background.
The app also doesn't give me the list of processes that are to be launched upon start up.
Samsung S4 Mini
Developer Options Enabled
Android Version 4.4.2
Kernel Version 3.4.0-2254622
Note: Also posted similar at androidcentral but they redirected me here due to rooting.