USB "Adaptive Fast Charging" not working? - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

Hi.
I read about problems with "wireless recharging", but what about the usb one?
I enabled / disabled the fast charge and the difference it's about 20 minutes.
Fast charging (enabled): i.imgur.com/VMFTRtL.jpg
Cable charging (disabled): i.imgur.com/mylrOBo.jpg
I'm using the Samsung charger and cable. "Ampere" shows about 1000ma during recharging, for both.
I can't understand if it's only for my phone, or even worse, it's a "Samsung Feature"

schizzo_ita said:
Hi.
I read about problems with "wireless recharging", but what about the usb one?
I enabled / disabled the fast charge and the difference it's about 20 minutes.
Fast charging (enabled): i.imgur.com/VMFTRtL.jpg
Cable charging (disabled): i.imgur.com/mylrOBo.jpg
I'm using the Samsung charger and cable. "Ampere" shows about 1000ma during recharging, for both.
I can't understand if it's only for my phone, or even worse, it's a "Samsung Feature"
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My first question is where is the option? Because the only option i have on my device (AT&T) is for fast wireless charging. I remember on my old S7 that there was an option for adaptive fast charging but i dont see it here. What i find odd is that i show the same time til charged whether im on my fast charging pad or over USB, and i am using a true USB 3.1 card in my PC. Thats also using either the OEM cable or my Aukey USB C to C cable. I always thought even the fast wireless wasnt supposed to be as fast as cable charging. Also, to me, charging from 30% to full shouldnt take 2 hours and 20 minutes, that doesnt seem too "fast" IMO.

cloudraker said:
My first question is where is the option? Because the only option i have on my device (AT&T) is for fast wireless charging. I remember on my old S7 that there was an option for adaptive fast charging but i dont see it here. What i find odd is that i show the same time til charged whether im on my fast charging pad or over USB, and i am using a true USB 3.1 card in my PC. Thats also using either the OEM cable or my Aukey USB C to C cable. I always thought even the fast wireless wasnt supposed to be as fast as cable charging. Also, to me, charging from 30% to full shouldnt take 2 hours and 20 minutes, that doesnt seem too "fast" IMO.
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To find where options for Fast Wireless and Fast battery charging ,
see screenshot attached
Phone/Device Maintenance/Battery /3 dot menu ( right top )Advance Settings ......

cloudraker said:
My first question is where is the option? Because the only option i have on my device (AT&T) is for fast wireless charging. I remember on my old S7 that there was an option for adaptive fast charging but i dont see it here. What i find odd is that i show the same time til charged whether im on my fast charging pad or over USB, and i am using a true USB 3.1 card in my PC. Thats also using either the OEM cable or my Aukey USB C to C cable. I always thought even the fast wireless wasnt supposed to be as fast as cable charging. Also, to me, charging from 30% to full shouldnt take 2 hours and 20 minutes, that doesnt seem too "fast" IMO.
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Can You do some tests with wireless fast recharging? Just use "Ampere" for see how quickly the battery is charging. Like I said before, on cable is about 1000mA for me.

Yeah 1000mA is as good as it gets I'm afraid, its pretty slow compared to VOOC. I've really struggled getting used to the slow charging coming from a Oneplus 3. That being said the rate of charge appears to be constant even with the screen on, so its not all bad.

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Charging Speeds

Hi,
Wanted your thoughts and opinions on charging speeds. I've never actually timed how long it takes to charge. i leave it overnight and it's ready when i wake up.
When i plug the phone into the charger, it flashes up slow charging for 2 seconds then disappears. which got me wondering how much it's actually using.
i used to use Current Widget app on my Samsung S3 which told me exactly how much current the phone was taking from the charger. typically it was 1A via AC/mains and 499mA from a PC. Plugged in to AC, I could play a power hungry game and it would still charge the phone at a good rate.
The LG kernel doesn't like these apps - the mA value is all over the place but it's typically <500mA displayed.
I could buy a USB ammeter to work out how much the USB charger is supplying but do you have any other methods of finding out? Do you know what your phone uses?
at home, i use a Xtrememac dual USB charger, 2x 2.1A output with a shielded 3M USB cable. for those wondering, it's the same regardless what cable i use. Have also tried with generic usb chargers, iPad chargers and official and OEM cables from LG and various other manufacturers. Have also used a data-shorted USB cable from PC which is the same result.
I haven't tried the LG charger yet (mainly as it's a 2 flat-pin plug and i don't know where i put the box) but i think i recall it being a 1.8A charger.
I use an application called "charger report" which can display current consumption and Xtar "USB detector" device. They both show the same numbers. But Xtar USB detector can detect voltage of a charger. The charging current of LG g pro 2 is 1.4-1.5A when the smartphone is not used and higher when I use it. Using USB detector I found out that this smartphone can charge with maximum current a charger can give only if the charger's voltage is 5.3v. So it chargers at full speed with original charger and two other chargers I have: a charger from my Lenovo s6000 (2A 5.4V) and from my Asus t100 (2A 5.3V).
i tried that app too and got the same results as with Current Widget.
i'll buy a "usb detector". thanks.
I forgot to mention that it take approximately two hours for charging indicator to reach 100% when the smartphone reports that it fully charged. And it's necessary to left it connected to a charger for ten to twenty minutes to be really fully charged. Otherwise charging indicator will soon drop to 90%. One can tell if a smartphone is still charging by touching a charger or by looking at current consumption: a charger would be warm and current would be higher than 200mA.
Is the GP2 Quick Charge (1 or 2) enabled? I can't read anything about it other than it's in Snapdragon chipsets. Not sure if it can be disabled or not.
ray-lee said:
Is the GP2 Quick Charge (1 or 2) enabled? I can't read anything about it other than it's in Snapdragon chipsets. Not sure if it can be disabled or not.
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The Snapdragon 800,801 and 805 is for Quick Charge 2.0
The Snapdragon 600 for 1.0
ok, does anyone use a Quick Charger with their GP2? is it noticeably faster?
not yet available in Austria, I have read it kills the battery life on
ray-lee said:
Hi,
Wanted your thoughts and opinions on charging speeds. I've never actually timed how long it takes to charge. i leave it overnight and it's ready when i wake up.
When i plug the phone into the charger, it flashes up slow charging for 2 seconds then disappears. which got me wondering how much it's actually using.
i used to use Current Widget app on my Samsung S3 which told me exactly how much current the phone was taking from the charger. typically it was 1A via AC/mains and 499mA from a PC. Plugged in to AC, I could play a power hungry game and it would still charge the phone at a good rate.
The LG kernel doesn't like these apps - the mA value is all over the place but it's typically <500mA displayed.
I could buy a USB ammeter to work out how much the USB charger is supplying but do you have any other methods of finding out? Do you know what your phone uses?
at home, i use a Xtrememac dual USB charger, 2x 2.1A output with a shielded 3M USB cable. for those wondering, it's the same regardless what cable i use. Have also tried with generic usb chargers, iPad chargers and official and OEM cables from LG and various other manufacturers. Have also used a data-shorted USB cable from PC which is the same result.
I haven't tried the LG charger yet (mainly as it's a 2 flat-pin plug and i don't know where i put the box) but i think i recall it being a 1.8A charger.
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Hey ray-lee!
I just bought this phone and as it seems it could get someday similar problems as my former phone the Galaxy Note 2.
That phone has had problems with charger and cable also. I had to buy another set of charger and cable since the original ones gave up a few months after i purchased the phone (it was used). The cable managed only 500mA wich is very slow for a battery that strong. One night was once not enough to charge my phone from 30% to 100%. As it seems it is problematic to manufacture cables, that can hold up and continually grant the 1,8 A that would charge our device in just 2 hours. I read somewhere that the G Pro 2 is one of 5 devices that has blazing fast speeds on charging the battery. If you handle the cables with caution hopefully you will not encounter problems. If so my guess is, that you will have a hard time in finding a cable that can hold up. Sadly the stock cables are always more expensive. I do not get it, why companies dont build travel adapters that only charge ur phones built solid with sturdy cables to ensure the transmission of high currents. That way with charger + usb cable is just stupid, even when tis is an all in one solution.
I like this phone very much and i hope, that the cables will not be that sloppy as the cables that Samsung had/ still has. With Current Widget i get readings around 1500 mA (1,5 A) when connected to the stock charger. And yes the LG Charger is an 1,8 A one. I have also flat pins, but received an adapter to be able to connect it in Hugary.
Just sharing thoughts here, that will maybe helpful to someone...
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2amp charger, charges my Pro 2 in apprx 1 hour while my old LG 1amp charger fills it in 1.40 hours apprx
ray-lee said:
Is the GP2 Quick Charge (1 or 2) enabled? I can't read anything about it other than it's in Snapdragon chipsets. Not sure if it can be disabled or not.
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i "think" as long as device has snapdragon it is Quick Charge enabled
I use the "Charging Report" app on my phone, and it reports proper values.
(Around 1500mAh with the LG charger, and around 1600mAh with the 2.0A Samsung charger.)
If your phone is charging slowly, check the CABLE. Cable can broke too.
(Many people complain about their Samsung charging cables, because they just stop delivering power after a while and just charge the device slowly.)
Anyone tried Quick charge 2.0?? https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
enkhtwshn said:
Anyone tried Quick charge 2.0?? https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
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All Devices with the Snapdragon 800 have Quick Charge 2.0!
letschky said:
All Devices with the Snapdragon 800 have Quick Charge 2.0!
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So anyone tried it? That is the question
Yes, I have the Motorola Turbo Charger.
coastalmikey said:
Yes, I have the Motorola Turbo Charger.
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How long does it charge from 0-50 from50-100 from 0-100?
There aren't many chargers out there. and the ones that are, are usually US 2 pin. I need a UK 3 pin or travel charger (changeable pins) really.
enkhtwshn said:
So anyone tried it? That is the question
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To achieve full charging speeds, a Quick Charge 2.0 enabled device must be paired with a Quick Charge 2.0 certified adapter

[Q] Charging Too Slow Now

I have had my Verizon Galaxy S4 since February of this year. I've been using the stock Samsung AC charger that came with it. It's always charged the phone pretty fast if I wasn't using the phone. It would charge about 15% in 20 minutes. Now it's only charging about 3 or 4% in 20 or 30 minutes. Now I didn't do anything different to my phone. I've been on this same ROM for over a month and this is just now a problem in the last week. My wife has the exact phone and charger that I have and when I use her charger it charges just as rapidly as mine used to, so I know it's not the usb port on my phone itself. I haven't dropped or damaged my charger at all in any way either.
Does anyone have any ideas about why this is happening?
If it charges fast on you wife's charger you've pretty much answered your own question.
Try using her cable with your charger, if it still charges slow then get a new charger.
gadget! said:
If it charges fast on you wife's charger you've pretty much answered your own question.
Try using her cable with your charger, if it still charges slow then get a new charger.
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Ok, I'll give that a shot. Thanks.
I had the same problem too ! Did a full battery reset and everything is going good now !
You have to charge it for 12 hours and drain your battery until your phone don't boot. Charge it and here you are !
Yeah these devices act funky every blue moon. My wifes didn't even recognize ANY oem charger for a week. Only detected others as USB devices causing slow charge rate. Removing dust, component cleaner, fresh install, all did no good. Eventually it just resolved the issue itself. All chargers work normally again.
change the usb cables
I also had the same problem before. I'd been using the original charger and usb cable and noticed that charging takes a lot of time than normal.
I found that it's on the usb cable. I accidentally found it when I used gsam battery monitor. It displays the current being received by your phone when charging. Using the original usb cable, it only gets around 600mah. I tried another usb cable (from a previous Samsung device) and now my phone gets 1,900mah (closed to the charger output of 2,000 mah).
Every since I changed the usb cable, my charging is fast now. Hope this helps.
I would try a new cable and Charger that is rated 2.1 amps or better if will be charged real quick
elchingon said:
I would try a new cable and Charger that is rated 2.1 amps or better if will be charged real quick
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I noticed that using the Pure Nexus rom my charging time became significantly faster. In fact I can get a full charge from nearly dead in just over an hour. This is using the charger and cable that came with the phone.
I had the same problem too ! Did a full battery reset and everything is going good now !
MT tenso
How do you make full battery reset?
The charging rate is based on the output rating of the charger, which is determined by the resistance value between the Data+ and Data- USB pins. If you use a cheap cable with high(er) internal cabling resistance, that will throw off the detected charger output capacity rating, and knock you down to a lower charging current and longer charging time.
Also, one time, even with the original charger and original cable, I couldn't charge at anything more than the default USB 500mA. I ended up having to power off the phone, and power it on again, which fixed the charging current and speed problem.
Install this app & check if it is getting charged at max current; anything less than 1200 mA when screen on & 1900 mA when screen off, you need to change your cable or charger
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free
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I read somewhere that if you activate airplane mode the battery is charging faster.

Portable/External Battery Fast Charging Question

I just recently purchased a external battery charger on amazon, I'm pretty sure i wont get fast charging out of it, but my question for you guys is that if I'm NOT getting fast charging to my note 4, is it better to turn off fast charging in my battery settings on my note? Or can I leave the fast charging settings on the way it is and the phone will still charge from my external with no problem?
To be more clear, if I'm using a charger with no fast charging capabilities, do I have to turn the fast charging settings off in order for it to get a good charge still? Or is it ok to leave the fast charging settings on?
I was under the assumption that fast charging was for charging on a USB port on a PC and it would turn off MTP capabilities and use it for power only. I could be wrong though.
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TylerHarrison21 said:
I was under the assumption that fast charging was for charging on a USB port on a PC and it would turn off MTP capabilities and use it for power only. I could be wrong though.
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Fast charging is exactly what it sounds like. Charging the phone through the factory charging adapter and plug that came in the box, but you have to go to the phone's battery settings and turn on fast charging, this allows your phone to charge faster than normal, a feature that the Note 4 has.
Fast charging can be achieved with some other brand name chargers as well, but I never heard of it being possible when connected to a USB port on a PC before...
Silly question I know, so don't hammer me, Do we have to actually use the bundled USB cable? or any cable will do the job, given its connected to the rapid/adaptive charger.
Willy318is said:
Silly question I know, so don't hammer me, Do we have to actually use the bundled USB cable? or any cable will do the job, given its connected to the rapid/adaptive charger.
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Good question, so I tried the Samsung power block with a different USB cable and the Fast Charger Connected indicator popped up on the screen. So I would say that you do not have to use the bundled cable.

Fast Charging?

I'm not sure if I'm being stupid or not, but when I charge my S6 (using the cable that came with it) and the phone is off, I do not get the fast charging symbol/text. However, as soon as my wife plugged hers in to charge it for the 1st time and it was off, it had the fast charging text. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance.
I get the fast charge symbol and it says "fast charging" Not sure what you are doing wrong.
jpolidori11 said:
I'm not sure if I'm being stupid or not, but when I charge my S6 (using the cable that came with it) and the phone is off, I do not get the fast charging symbol/text. However, as soon as my wife plugged hers in to charge it for the 1st time and it was off, it had the fast charging text. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance.
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Just to make sure, you said you were using the cable, are you also using the white 110 adapter that you plug the cable into on the wall side? I always get the fast charging message, both using the equipment supplied with the phone, as well as using a "Qualcomm 2.0" fast charge car cigarette lighter style adapter I bought from Amazon.
Good luck
Can we control when it fast charges vs slow charges? What's the difference (besides the obvious)?
sd0070 said:
Can we control when it fast charges vs slow charges? What's the difference (besides the obvious)?
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Assuming you use the included charger, or another charger with Qualcomm 2.0 Quick Charge capability, it will always take advantage of the technology. None of the wireless charging, as far as I know, is equipped with the fast charge technology, so that will always be at conventional speed.
As an aside, I have plugged my phone into the "quick charger" and then set it on the wireless charging pad, and the pad shows it "charging". I haven't really checked to see if that adds anything to the speed of the charge.
sd0070 said:
Can we control when it fast charges vs slow charges? What's the difference (besides the obvious)?
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I believe there is a setting in the battery stats menu where you can turn off fast charging well it was on my note 4 anyway.

[Q] Anyone know of an app or method to trigger Fast Charging?

I know Adaptive Fast Charging doesn't kick in unless the battery is very low - less than 20%, I believe. And, yes, I have the 15 watt charger(s) that supports AFC/QC2.0
Does anyone know of a way, or if it's even possible, to trigger the phone to kick in fast charging at low, but not painfully low, rates?
Hi
My S6 always charges at the quickest speed possible because when I connect my Samsung Charger the phone tells me I have connected the fast charger and I know it is charging quickly because if I use another charger the time for a full charge will increase significantly. Are you using the official fast charger?
Yes, I've always experimented with the high-power charger that came with the phone.
Fast charging will speed up or slow down automatically based on how charged the battery is. The emptier the battery, the faster it will charge. This charge will slow down gradually as the battery fills up. I don't think there's a way to facilitate this, and even if there was, it probably would not be recommended to do as it might damage the battery.
Fast Charging is a concept, that comes into play when you are connected to the USB port of your PC. Typically when connected in MTP mode (or PTP FWIW), Phone charges slowly in order to prevent damage to the usb port. Certain kernels can permit fast charge provided your laptop has fastcharge usb.
For Wall charging, Rapidcharge technology does exist but requires original samsung charger. With any other OEM charger, it'd be a matter of luck since it'd need to have that 11th pin on the microusb.
Everything else that @Japultra is correct.
I'm almost too embarrassed to admit this, but it was the micro USB cord that wasn't letting my phone avail itself of the high-power adapters. I came across a thicker USB cable and, thinking/hoping that thicker cable also translated to higher gauge conducts, decided to try it out with my phone that was at 65%. Yup. The phone now indicated "fast charging".
I appreciate your forbearance, folks!
bwb8771 said:
I'm almost too embarrassed to admit this, but it was the micro USB cord that wasn't letting my phone avail itself of the high-power adapters. I came across a thicker USB cable and, thinking/hoping that thicker cable also translated to higher gauge conducts, decided to try it out with my phone that was at 65%. Yup. The phone now indicated "fast charging".
I appreciate your forbearance, folks!
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So the original cable that came with the s6 wasn't working for you?

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