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My Dad is a editor and is thinking about picking up a tablet. I have a few questions, hopefully someone may be able to help me.
1. Could you draw/make changes to a word document? The same as using a pen to edit a paper - you get the idea.
2. Would you be able to save that document and all the changes made?
Any information would be extremely helpful.
As an editor, I can say "yes" you can do all those things.
Also as an editor I can say definitively that you don't want to. It's slow, buggy, and the software is expensive and doesn't do half the things you're used to in the full versions. I tried doing work on my xoom (with a mouse, keyboard, and dock) for about an hour before I realized that it's just not there yet; the tech is too new. Get a laptop for work. Touch interface is great for navigating an OS, fun for games, OK for web browsing, but it sucks for any type of word processing or real productivity.
I say this even though I really like my xoom, but I'd never use it for productivity. The tech is still too young to be optimized the way that windows7 or a mac are. At some point there will be a 15.6" touchscreen windows7 laptop with a removable screen (like the transformer). If your dad really needs a machine for productivity but wants a tablet, this is what he'll want (it's what I want!)
Thanks for all the information. I'll be sure to let him know everything you've said.
Laptops aren't an issue, we have plenty of those lying around here. My parent's have been traveling a decent bit lately, going out of town for a week or so at a time every few weeks and he had been complaining about having to carry around large manuscripts all the time.
I figured the technology may be too new, but it really could have been great for mobility and potential money savings with not paying for paper, toner, and shipping.
That laptop sounds pretty sweet. Is it just in a conceptual phase and several years from production? I'll definitely pass on this information too.
How does this work as a laptop replacement in a school environment? Taking notes, web experience, etc. I'm looking to replace my laptop for at school.
How does it do rendering blackboard ?
Any help would be appreciated I might pick one up tomorrow with the keyboard. Is it responsive to type documents on?
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As a direct laptop/desktop replacement, I do not believe it will do that. However, if you are looking for something that is light, takes notes with a stylus, web surfing, movies, music, etc... Then it would be perfect. I am a college student, and have used an iPad and now this for school, and it fits perfectly into my daily life.
With the keyboard dock, this thing would seriously be a netbook type device, so typing on one I would not know. I use the Transformer by itself.
Hmmmm, I have found the best solution for my studies (masters in education) was a touchscreen laptop like the fujitsu lifebook using OneNote. I have the keyboard dock for the transformer and I simply love it. I am currently forcing myself to use this instead of my lifebook simply to see the abilities of this in the classroom. This machine falls a bit short of being the perfect companion, thats pretty good. No OneNOTE, but with printershare that makes up for it a bit.
The lightness of it is huge ofcourse, its sturdy as well. Internet is less cumberson than on a windows based machine. There are several apps that can be used for office, or you could use google Docs. Also, once rooted, you can download any file type and with the USB ports on the dock you will be able to move files at your whim.
ON THE OTHER HAND... (And this point just came to me as I was typing this) I have not used my laptop since I purchased this machine a few weeks ago and currently about to finish my last class. So maybe it is a good solution.
Give me sme real world applications (how you want to use it) and maybe I can give you some suggestions.
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boglwe said:
Hmmmm, I have found the best solution for my studies (masters in education) was a touchscreen laptop like the fujitsu lifebook using OneNote. I have the keyboard dock for the transformer and I simply love it. I am currently forcing myself to use this instead of my lifebook simply to see the abilities of this in the classroom. This machine falls a bit short of being the perfect companion, thats pretty good. No OneNOTE, but with printershare that makes up for it a bit.
The lightness of it is huge ofcourse, its sturdy as well. Internet is less cumberson than on a windows based machine. There are several apps that can be used for office, or you could use google Docs. Also, once rooted, you can download any file type and with the USB ports on the dock you will be able to move files at your whim.
ON THE OTHER HAND... (And this point just came to me as I was typing this) I have not used my laptop since I purchased this machine a few weeks ago and currently about to finish my last class. So maybe it is a good solution.
Give me sme real world applications (how you want to use it) and maybe I can give you some suggestions.
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thanks in advance you are really helping me out. Well some apps i'd like to use would be:
-an office-like application to edit/compose word docs or essays.
-view pdf files
-i have used evernote in the past, but i also like using powerpoint to take notes in the notes pane under slides....(i think with google docs i can toggle speaker notes which may solve this issue)
-another thing on taking notes, can u insert bulleted lists/ numbered lists/ indents to keep notes organized on any notetaking software for the transformer?
-as far as music goes, how does it handle multitasking with music. FOr example, playing audio in the background while i study.
-ease of copying/pasting.
I am thinking it may just suffice and have that 'wow' factor too. I do have a desktop at home, so for anything real intensive i am sure i could use that (which i have been neglecting lately).
Im familiar with rooting/flashing devices as i've come from a captivate and now use a atrix. I feel like im rambling, but the more i type the more it sounds like a viable solution for taking notes in class.
one last thing, i have seen a few threads about some keyboard lag...is this a serious issue? is there a fix? I saw that there are several iterations of the keyboard, is there one i should try and get when i go shopping over others?
i just dont want to have to wait for the keyboard to catch up if i'm taking notes in evernote.
I think i may just pick it up tomorrow and try it out for a few weeks since school isnt until august 29th...but i could use any insight on it i could get!
August 29th... semester system?
I've not used it to take notes yet (summer research), but for school life, entertainment-wise, since I've had it, I haven't used my laptop much for anything other than the occasional Netflix (and I've stopped since I finished BSG ).
I'm using my laptop right now to play some game, but really, the TF has almost replaced everything I need it. The typing lag does kind of suck so if you're some kind of student with a major that will require lots of typing..
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August 29th... semester system?
I've not used it to take notes yet (summer research), but for school life, entertainment-wise, since I've had it, I haven't used my laptop much for anything other than the occasional Netflix (and I've stopped since I finished BSG ).
I'm using my laptop right now to play some game, but really, the TF has almost replaced everything I need it. The typing lag does kind of suck so if you're some kind of student with a major that will require lots of typing..
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how bad is the typing lag? i dont do a TON of typing, but i am taking an online class so i may need to type into a forum style system box to submit.
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i see that it is only an issue with SOME apps? have you used thinkfree office?
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how bad is the typing lag? i dont do a TON of typing, but i am taking an online class so i may need to type into a forum style system box to submit.
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i see that it is only an issue with SOME apps? have you used thinkfree office?
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It is not too bad but not like iPad fast either,it lags but catches up easily on everything you type.
It catches up for short typing sessions. When I typed up a document for my parents, it was really noticeable in a bad way though.
The keyboard lag is NOT all the time; I mostly see it in the browsers and its actually rare but when it happens, you know it. A few things to note regarding using this machine for serious work...First there are several apps that can be used for Office (documents to go, and polaris, that latter comes with the machine, but I have yet to find one that has auto-save, and that can be scary when writing those long papers. If the machine is rooted you can copy paste ANYTHING, without root, its kind of a hit and miss.
You can play music in the background, so no worries there. most music apps attach to your task bar in any ways.
The way I find myself using this device many times in in conjuction with my own desktop now or at the school library computers and have this next to me at all times. It is an amazing resource to share information point blank with peeps and youself. There is also a thread somewhere here talkin about a Onenote alternative for android using a stylus, I have yet to try one of these apps.
PDF files are easy enough, here are tons off apps to do this.
Something else to remember is that these pads are getting TONS of attention right now from all kind of devs and apps are being made DAILY, its really just a matter of time for an app to show up to do EXACTLY what you need. IMHO
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Yeah, he's totally right about the apps showing up. Now... all I need is... STRATEGY RPG LIKE FINAL FANTASY TACTICS! (Who's up for making/porting one?)
Anyway, I like my TF for what I've used it for so far. Just grab one and try it, and return it if it doesn't work for you ?
I'm pretty much in the same boat as you bud. I bought the TF foreseeing that I would hopefully be able to us it for school and I was very pleased with my decision in the end.
To answer your questions...
It is a very viable (and in most case preferred) option to do basic school work on, especially simple stuff like note taking and editing documents. The included office app (Polaris) is actually a very nice feature and includes just about everything you would need to type an essay such as indentations, points/dots/whatever they are (as you were looking for), also includes numbering, double spacing, different font sizes and colors. Now it's not a full Microsoft Office replacement, but it definitely has all the basic features you'd be looking for.
You can also find a handful of microsoft office editors in the Android market. I haven't personally tested any of them yet (but will use them when school comes around) however from my knowledge they seem capable of editing word, powerpoint and couple other office applications--which is good enough for me.
To address the keyboard lag. I can speak from experience, when typing in most apps (especially apps like colournote, AKnotepad, Polaris or anything else that allows you to take notes or write extended paragraphs/papers) there is absolutely no lag with the keyboard. Once you get the hang of it, you will be typing at a decent wpm rate and you won't tell the difference between the tf dock keyboard and any other. There is however a noticeable lag when using the stock browser but from my knowledge this is due to having flash enabled and has nothing to do with the dock/keyboard itself. Also, the knew dolphintab browser seems much better at cleaning up any lag in the browser and I feel with the net couple updates it will be a near perfect option for tab browsing. That aside, I would like to reiterate the fact that the keyboard does not lag when using things related to note taking or Polaris office. It is for the most part a browser specific issue.
As far as highlighting words and copying and pasting, that is the one thing the tf doesn't really excel at. You can still copy/cut and paste pretty much anything you want but it is just not as fluid as using a pc.
So there you have it. The transformer is pretty much a nice fit for doing basic school work BUT it is not in any means a complete replacement for having a desktop/full size laptop. There will definitely be times when you will come across things that you just have to have a pc to do, but for the most part, especially when it comes to basic stuff like note taking and writing papers, the TF is perfect.
I would also like to note that there are some apps out there that let you control a pc from your android tablet/phone such as phoneymypc or logmein. I highly suggest taking a look into those as they are great tools that you can have at your disposal with the TF and will make being away from you pc all the much easier.
Like I said, i'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'm an MIS major and I often get annoyed at having to lug around my laptop just to take notes and do basic remedial things that something much lighter and more compact such as the TF can do wonderfully....
One more thing (wow this is a long post). You can easily find top notch netbooks (which offer the productivity of a pc with the portability of a tablet) for the same or even lesser than the TF. This was one of the things I took into consideration before I got my TF. I had to ask myself am I getting this thing solely for school, or do I want it for the other things android has to offer (entertainment wise). Overall I decided that i'd go with the TF because to me it had the best of both worlds as I am a huge android fan and have been an early adopter since the days of the G1, so the TF was a perfect fit for me...Just something to keep in mind.
boglwe said:
The keyboard lag is NOT all the time; I mostly see it in the browsers and its actually rare but when it happens, you know it. A few things to note regarding using this machine for serious work...First there are several apps that can be used for Office (documents to go, and polaris, that latter comes with the machine, but I have yet to find one that has auto-save, and that can be scary when writing those long papers. If the machine is rooted you can copy paste ANYTHING, without root, its kind of a hit and miss.
You can play music in the background, so no worries there. most music apps attach to your task bar in any ways.
The way I find myself using this device many times in in conjuction with my own desktop now or at the school library computers and have this next to me at all times. It is an amazing resource to share information point blank with peeps and youself. There is also a thread somewhere here talkin about a Onenote alternative for android using a stylus, I have yet to try one of these apps.
PDF files are easy enough, here are tons off apps to do this.
Something else to remember is that these pads are getting TONS of attention right now from all kind of devs and apps are being made DAILY, its really just a matter of time for an app to show up to do EXACTLY what you need. IMHO
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wish i'd of read this post before I spent 10 min typing mine up... I suck at making things compact, lol.
To the dude asking about rpg games. You absolutely HAVE to buy battleheart RIGHT NOW. It's not ff but it is an amazing rpg game and hands down the best you will ever find for android. (I haven't played them all so I really can't say that, but it is freaking awesome.)
Best of luck to you OP.
I'm used to use a 15" HP ProBook at school, but I do feel that my transformer can replace it...
But I guess I have an advantage as IT Professional, I run some servers at home (one of them has serveral types ov VPN on it, in case one is blocked by any firewalls), so I can access my desktops, and just use Office 2010 or Sony Vegas on a Core I7 (video editing), there is pretty much no limit for me...
But even if I was not able to make it this easy for me... I really love the Android OS, and it grows so fast in a short period of time... I wonder where it is in another 5 years... If Android goes on liek this, I think it will replace Windows (for regular users, not for companies)...
When I go back to college in 4 weeks )), I'll leave my laptop at home for the first week to see if I miss it for my everyday tasks...
I've used it for school and managing my work.
As a photographer it is needed that I have seemless integration of the sd card slot and a good device to support it, the transformer can handle it with ease!
The polaris office (or whatever its called) lets you make documents, excel sheets and powerpoint.
With a good stylus you would be able to take notes in like drawfree for example.
It handles music quite fine as it lets you multitask between apps and music.
And while Im doing all of this I can still get in touch with my friends because of the social part of the transformer that updates my status once in awhile ! ^-^
Its not a full fledged netbook but a nice replacement so far!
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Yeah, he's totally right about the apps showing up. Now... all I need is... STRATEGY RPG LIKE FINAL FANTASY TACTICS! (Who's up for making/porting one?)
Anyway, I like my TF for what I've used it for so far. Just grab one and try it, and return it if it doesn't work for you ?
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Already exists, playstation one emulator or gba emulator. They redid fft on gba.
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domin8 said:
How does this work as a laptop replacement in a school environment? Taking notes, web experience, etc. I'm looking to replace my laptop for at school.
How does it do rendering blackboard ?
Any help would be appreciated I might pick one up tomorrow with the keyboard. Is it responsive to type documents on?
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I use it for uni, and it seems to function quite well.
As a notetaking tool in lectures, it works fantastically, and it's so much better than lugging my Dell laptop around with me all day, which would just be a pain. If you've not got the dock or a bluetooth keyboard, it might be a bit of a hassle- I found that on the touch screen keyboard, hurriedly jotting down notes meant that I had to constantly backspace to correct formatting, punctuation, or spelling mistakes.
Polaris Office also tends to be a bit weird with me, though- sometimes files that I make on the transformer refuse to open using Microsoft Word on my computer, and vice versa. If you're doing a project with heavy formatting, you should probably stick to your desktop as Polaris tends to screw all that up for me.
It renders BlackBoard very quickly, and is great if you want to sneak a peek at a document that a teacher has uploaded there.
I'd say that you shouldn't use it as an all out replacement for your laptop where all school work is concerned- but as a device to take notes on, get quick snippets of information on, and access the web, it's perfect. Plus it helps that I can play Angry Birds if a lecture gets especially boring...
My semester just started again last week and I've been trying the TF (with dock) out as a netbook replacement for a week now.
I've been using freenotes to take notes in lectures and it's worked wonderfully. The built in email/gmail apps have worked wonderfully for email use and I use Dolphin for web-browsing and it's all been a real delight to use. Reads pdfs fine and I've got all my textbooks on internal storage (best thing ever).
The only annoying thing is coding on it. Doing a few Java projects this semester and as I'm still getting to terms with this language, I like to be using a full IDE for auto-correction etc. Anyway, I've been using vi via the terminal and this has been fine so far for code editing.
So yeah, after a week it's proved to be a pretty nice netbook alternative. Plus everything's nice and speedy unlike my clunky atom based netbook, plus it doesn't run hot on my lap and I've got no fans blaring constantly. Best thing about ARM from an end-user point-of-view
EDIT: I've also purchased a stylus for my TF last week, so I'm going to see how that goes for taking quick notes during lectures on my TF. Will report back if it's any good or if the keyboard is easier.
If you're looking for a more "desktop"-like experience, install Ubuntu on the internal storage. It's working wonderfully now (apart from a few small things) and you've pretty much got a full x86 laptop replacement in a nice lightweight ARM tablet.
this is why i love XDA, you guys have really answered all of my questions thoroughly! I am going to try and use that staples coupon that's floating around since it expires today and pick one up thanks so so so much guys, I plan on sticking around the transformer forums just as much as i do the atrix forums now
so it works! im glad i found this. this was my original plan to buy a tablet of some sort tablet with a dock (atrix with lapdock was my failed attempt) cuz i dont plan to carry my 17 inch laptop around. lol.
So I've had the Transformer for about 4-5 months now and too be quiet honest due to the lack of apps I cant really say it was a justified purchase. Sure its cool and all that and its useful when you just want to kick back and browse the web.
I love android been a huge fan of android since the longest time I used to own an iphone but I quickly got rid of it cause i wanted functionality/customization more than i wanted a whole array of apps.
However, somewhat opposite is what it seems I want with the tablet. So though i really like honeycomb and its looks (none too different than ICS) and i love ICS capabilities to fully take advantage of the tablet. Are there any apps that do the same? i mean i came across a couple like Google Catalogues, Books, pretty much mainly google made apps.
Now my question is that do people have any apps that takes advantage of the tablet. not a big fan of gaming on the tablet. But i guess if you guys can post me some names of Apps to check out i'd appreciate it. Also by posting here you guys can share with those who also have a similar problem.
edit: When i say take full advantage of the tablet, not only do i mean that its useful and fully performs the function you desire but also that the presentation of the app is elegant has some depth and quite nice/enjoyable to use.
edit: Thanks everyone for your input some of you guys are correct there is a whole thread for tablet optimized apps here is the link given by woodrube http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032381
also there are two apps you guys can download in the marketplace that i hope will in the near future bring to our attention even more better fully capable elegant apps. They are free downloads called "Tablified Market" and "Tablet Market". I see that many of you guys aren't pointing out Apps but rather are telling me how i can use my tablet lol, thank you for that but i was just having a hard time finding Apps i liked for the tablet and thought you guys may have known a hidden gem or two. But im just going to keep looking through the two apps i mentioned and possibly the thread.
the thread served its purpose for me and i hope for those that had similar thoughts there's some good insight in here for those that aren't to sure how to use the tablet once the "honeymoon" period passes.
How about these.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032381
What do you want it to do? I use mine for just about anything. School work, text books, notes, word documents, taking photos, Netflix, music, for video game hints when I have time to play. I think you have to have a use for it, it won't create functionality out of thin air. I don't have a use for a smart phone, to me they are too small. I can't imagine using a smart phone after having a tablet first. Watching Netflix must be torture on a small screen, office apps and such seem meant for tablets.
Kingsoft office
Ez Pdf reader
PowerAmp
Polaris office
Writepad Stylus
Splashtop HD
Balance my checkbook
Sygic Naviga
I came from a rooted nook color before this, and have never regretted it. It also was not an impulse purchase. I knew with the dock I would get close to 20 hours of battery life, with my laptop I get 4.5 brightness all the way down. I have never been keen on Apple products and for 500 bucks I have a NetBook/32 gb tablet with expandable storage.
I will admit it seems that Apple does have the edge a far as gaming goes, but that edge will diminish with time. I would like to see more graphic intensive games from these devices, like Dead Space, GTA, NOVA, and such. Again, in time we will see this evolution.
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So I've had the Transformer for about 4-5 months now and too be quiet honest due to the lack of apps I cant really say it was a justified purchase. Sure its cool and all that and its useful when you just want to kick back and browse the web.
I love android been a huge fan of android since the longest time I used to own an iphone but I quickly got rid of it cause i wanted functionality/customization more than i wanted a whole array of apps.
However, somewhat opposite is what it seems I want with the tablet. So though i really like honeycomb and its looks (none too different than ICS) and i love ICS capabilities to fully take advantage of the tablet. Are there any apps that do the same? i mean i came across a couple like Google Catalogues, Books, pretty much mainly google made apps.
Now my question is that do people have any apps that takes advantage of the tablet. not a big fan of gaming on the tablet. But i guess if you guys can post me some names of Apps to check out i'd appreciate it. Also by posting here you guys can share with those who also have a similar problem.
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I've had the transformer for about 6 months now and I must admit at first I was the same. I was instantly impressed with how much more system level stuff I could do (e.g. download a file and SAVE it somewhere - outrageous) but I couldn't help but resist the thought of "this is like my pc, but a bit crappier"
Something I found quite interesting was that as I bought it with the dock I had the tablet tied to the dock 95% of the time- In my head I was like "more battery, extra ports and a keyboard, heck yes" and as I'd paid extra for the dock it seemed silly to just leave it sitting around. I'm not sure what happened, but one day I evolved to taking it out of the dock. Once I did it became a mobile entertainment system that could follow me around the house, it was fast, powerful sleek and could hang out in the lounge room, go to the ****ter and take to bed.
Once that realisation took hold, I felt alot more able to just use it for whatever I was doing. This was MASSIVELY helped by the android 10 billion download sales where I picked up airtwist (an itunes music syncer), ezpdf reader (great for books) and some cool games. Suddenly I could easily play music that my iphone used to do, read books, write shopping lists, control the dvd player etc. etc. etc.
In a large part my iPhone 4 had cornered this aspect of my life but I soon learned that the tablet did everything better. Now the iphone just feels too restrictive so I'm hanging out for a Galaxy S3 or something similar.
Basically, get the apps that suit your lifestyle, take it out of the dock (if you have one) and just go nuts!
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I've had the transformer for about 6 months now and I must admit at first I was the same. I was instantly impressed with how much more system level stuff I could do (e.g. download a file and SAVE it somewhere - outrageous) but I couldn't help but resist the thought of "this is like my pc, but a bit crappier"
Something I found quite interesting was that as I bought it with the dock I had the tablet tied to the dock 95% of the time- In my head I was like "more battery, extra ports and a keyboard, heck yes" and as I'd paid extra for the dock it seemed silly to just leave it sitting around. I'm not sure what happened, but one day I evolved to taking it out of the dock. Once I did it became a mobile entertainment system that could follow me around the house, it was fast, powerful sleek and could hang out in the lounge room, go to the ****ter and take to bed.
Once that realisation took hold, I felt alot more able to just use it for whatever I was doing. This was MASSIVELY helped by the android 10 billion download sales where I picked up airtwist (an itunes music syncer), ezpdf reader (great for books) and some cool games. Suddenly I could easily play music that my iphone used to do, read books, write shopping lists, control the dvd player etc. etc. etc.
In a large part my iPhone 4 had cornered this aspect of my life but I soon learned that the tablet did everything better. Now the iphone just feels too restrictive so I'm hanging out for a Galaxy S3 or something similar.
Basically, get the apps that suit your lifestyle, take it out of the dock (if you have one) and just go nuts!
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I appreciate your guys's comments. I'm sorry i should have been more precise in my rant though lol. What I meant to say was that sure the functionality is there and i love that that's great. But I end up not using it because the apps look so ugly lol and rather then just do it on a laptop. So what I do want are those apps that have the functionality there but also the elegance in the app. An example of this would be cooklet or Catalogues these two apps really impressed me in their depth and elegance, not much an actual catalogues type person or a cook (apart from eggs and toast) but i just go into the apps cause they look so good lol. other than that i tried using it as a essay writer as i do have the dock but the keyboard is too small to be comfortable for hours on end of writing. Also, i tried getting into it being a main music/media hub bought hdmi cable and everything but the music player on it is really crap lol for movies its good but again i dont really use it as much as i can just use my ps3. I do see myself using it more and more if there are better and better apps built for it. for starters a better gallary/music/video player youtube is good but would love to have the capability for it to play more than one video at a time. Maybe a nice agenda app? So if you guys know any great apps that may replace the ones currently or in general that have functionality and elegance and beauty let me know. Or show me videos that show how to make apps lool i'd be total game for that once my semester is done.
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How about these.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032381
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Thanks dude will be checking these out...there's a lot of em didnt realise it as much. i've had two apps on my tablet that show me tablet apps "tablified market" and "tablet market" but this list seems to surpass those.
There are more than enough practical and useful apps, you just need to figure out what they are for you. For example..i travel and go to college. For traveling, iuse media apps for watching movies and listening to music on the go. Also games for killing time. For school purposes,i use the kindle app and buy ebooks for required reading . Like mentioned above, i use splashtop desktop which is a remote desktop app that i use to connect to my pc at home to access my files and for other tasks. I am also a news junkie so i use the app pulse which allows u to subscribe to many different news sources. You have to find out what works for you. If you absolutely cannot think of anything,then my advice is to spend some time browsing the market for something you can use.
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There are more than enough practical and useful apps, you just need to figure out what they are for you. For example..i travel and go to college. For traveling, iuse media apps for watching movies and listening to music on the go. Also games for killing time. For school purposes,i use the kindle app and buy ebooks for required reading . Like mentioned above, i use splashtop desktop which is a remote desktop app that i use to connect to my pc at home to access my files and for other tasks. I am also a news junkie so i use the app pulse which allows u to subscribe to many different news sources. You have to find out what works for you. If you absolutely cannot think of anything,then my advice is to spend some time browsing the market for something you can use.
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...?i know, i stated that i do have the useful apps but there presented in such a way that i don't feel like using them because even though I'm studying to become an accountant I'm an artistic sort of person who likes to see elegance in things because that also shows passion and not just something you whipped up because its useful and will get you many downloads/sales. Maybe you guys don't like that and don't have any aesthetic standards, if i can say without being rude, but me I pay'd a hefty sum, for being a university student, and I would at least want apps that i can enjoy looking at while doing the function I need to. Maybe its too much to ask right now, maybe I have to wait more to find such apps and thank you guys for trying to help i appreciate each comment.
There might be different reasons you got that impression.
First thing is, as you stated, you simply overlooked the good ones. That's pretty easy to happen in the crowded android market, and so that's what this thread is for.
Second possible reason: The apps you are looking for are not that popular, that the developers care to make a special tablet layout. When I think about accounting I think of functionality over design, or simple "boring offices". Maybe that influences the apps tailored to those topics. (Don't get me wrong, don't want to sound rude, I'm a economics student myself, but I never really enjoyed things like accounting )
Third possible reason: The apps are properly designed but the look doesn't appeal to you that much. The overall iOS design is based on buttons that seem to scream "push me, push me" like those buttons on the packaging of electronic child toys. Everything is a bit shiny, a bit glossy and a bit 3D. You can simply enjoy it without thinking about what you're doing. The (current) android design however is a bit more on the techy side. It has a clear and functional layout, with few but important design rules. If you're not sure, which parts of the UI are intended and which are simply bad style please refer to Android Style ( developer.android.com / design / index.html No links due to low post count). Maybe the overall android look is not that appealing to you.
Coming back to the original question: The two apps for finding tablet specific apps are a solid source of tablet apps - I'm using them as well, keep them going!
Another good source for tablet apps is keeping an eye on Androidpolice. There is a loose series of posts called "The n Best Android 3.0+ Apps For Honeycomb Tablets From The Last n Weeks". It doesn't come out on a regular basis, but every now and then, and always provides me with some good hints for good apps.
I haven't got my tablet at hand right now, as I'm in the office, so I can't check whats installed on it to give you tips (might come back later), but I remember the IMDB App having a nice tablet interface. And I love reading my Google Reader feed via the app "feedly" which is a magazine style app, that allows browsing your feeds like some glossy magazine, with a nice gesture based interface.
This was the tips part of my post.
Now to continue the rant I can understand your point, with spending 400$+ for a device and then having few apps available that make use of that extra screen estate. I see myself using apps, that are good, but designed for phone, every day. Compared to the iPad where there are ****loads of tabletoptimized apps available this is kinda sad... BUT I also see myself doing things with my tablet everyday, that an iPad owner can never imagine, like connecting USB drives, sharing URLs and text between apps, manipulating wifi networks, using sd cards or simple things as downloading a file. So for me the price, which is about the same as the iPad's price, is absolutely ok! I'm still happy for every new tablet optimized app that launches, though.
OK, that has been a tl:dr post, but nevermind, happy weekend for everyone!
There is a Tablet Market app here somewhere...either in the development section or the apps/themes section. All the apps in it are supposed to be tablet optimized.
Swyped using my Pinky
Get an ipad.
Hi everyone,
I am new here, I hope I get the xda-dev etiquette right, if not please tell me.
I am thinking about getting a TF700T as a replacement for my current (really old) notebook [I do normal computing on a desktop]. I will briefly describe what I had in mind and would be grateful for any comments on that. Please note that I am new to the whole Android thing, but that I am an experienced unix hacker, so I hope to learn the stuff quickly.
Why dualboot?
- it will replace a laptop
- for most things android will be the right thing, but in certain situations I want a full unix operating system
Which Android?
- I want a mod that has minimal amount of non-free software and good performance
- I don't mind if everything doesn't work perfectly right away and I don't mind twaeking around, but it should work somehow in the end
- I want encryption (is supposedly available in stock ICS already)
- I don't need any Google-Apps, I plan to use f-droid for applications
=> I thought about CM9 or CM10
Which second OS?
- Obviously GNU/Linux
- frequent updates and bleeding edge software
- no gimmicks, no useless stuff
=> Debian SID ARM?
What are your general thoughts on this?
Has anyone tried dual booting the TF700(t) yet? I read sth about an Ubuntu-dualboot on the TF300...
What are your thoughts on my choice of mod? Is it the right thing for my usecase?
What are your thoughts on my choice of Linux distribution? Did any of you see a native Debian ARM on a recent tablet?
Is there a recommended reading list for people who want to dive into this whole thing and not just follow step-by-step instructions to unlock/root/reflash their device? Like information about general boot-up process, partitioning etc
Thank you for your help!
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Hi everyone,
I am new here, I hope I get the xda-dev etiquette right, if not please tell me.
I am thinking about getting a TF700T as a replacement for my current (really old) notebook [I do normal computing on a desktop]. I will briefly describe what I had in mind and would be grateful for any comments on that. Please note that I am new to the whole Android thing, but that I am an experienced unix hacker, so I hope to learn the stuff quickly.
Why dualboot?
- it will replace a laptop
- for most things android will be the right thing, but in certain situations I want a full unix operating system
Which Android?
- I want a mod that has minimal amount of non-free software and good performance
- I don't mind if everything doesn't work perfectly right away and I don't mind twaeking around, but it should work somehow in the end
- I want encryption (is supposedly available in stock ICS already)
- I don't need any Google-Apps, I plan to use f-droid for applications
=> I thought about CM9 or CM10
Right now, we dont have an unlocked bootloader and as such we dont have roms. But when we do get them, CM9/10 would be an excelent choice since they're fully open source and google apps are optional. Pretty much any rom you find will support encryption since its a core feature of ICS.
Which second OS?
- Obviously GNU/Linux
- frequent updates and bleeding edge software
- no gimmicks, no useless stuff
=> Debian SID ARM?
Again, because we lack an unlocked bootloader, you cant run native linux yet. The closest we can get is a chroot environment, but its not flawless. Namely, Android has no native X server support, so if you wanted to run X applications the only way to do so would be through VNC which is kinda slow. Fast enough for text and menu heavy stuff, but dont even think of video or gaming.
Looking at the OG Transformer and the Transformer Prime as precedent though, I'd be surprised if we didnt get native linux at some point. Probably some flavor of Ubuntu, but if that runs I figure it wouldn't be that difficult to get Debian running.
What are your general thoughts on this?
Has anyone tried dual booting the TF700(t) yet? I read sth about an Ubuntu-dualboot on the TF300...
I'm actually planning on doing the same thing, sans no google apps. My old laptop is kinda heavy, so I relegated it to desktop duty and used an HP Touchpad for a while in its place. It worked decently, and I figure the TF700 will do a much better job from form factor alone.
The version of Linux on the TF300 or other Transformers wont work on the TF700 as the hardware is slightly different.
What are your thoughts on my choice of mod? Is it the right thing for my usecase?
Depends entirely on what you want to use your tablet for.
What are your thoughts on my choice of Linux distribution? Did any of you see a native Debian ARM on a recent tablet?
The Motorola Xoom and HP Touchpad both have nice looking debian ports. You're probably looking for hardware a little more recent though, I'm not really sure what your options are. Debian is a nice distribution with pretty good arm support, you cant really go wrong with it.
Is there a recommended reading list for people who want to dive into this whole thing and not just follow step-by-step instructions to unlock/root/reflash their device? Like information about general boot-up process, partitioning etc
I don't have an answer here... I'd actually like to know this myself!
Thank you for your help!
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What I could answer, is in bold.
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What I could answer, is in bold.
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That was an extensive and quality answer. Nothing more to add, except that the OP is doing fine. Don't worry too much about etiquette; as long as the question posed is sincere, the harshest that could happen is your post being moved to another forum.
We don't bite (at least, not that hard).
Welcome!
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What I could answer, is in bold.
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Thank you very much for the complete answer! I wasn't aware that the bootloader is still locked, while itsunlocked on the other transformers... Have there been any announcements or rumors from ASUS on if/when the unlock tool will arrive for the Infinity?
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We don't bite (at least, not that hard).
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Good to know
So no further reading hints? Maybe I should ask this one again in the general Android forums?
h?2 said:
Thank you very much for the complete answer! I wasn't aware that the bootloader is still locked, while itsunlocked on the other transformers... Have there been any announcements or rumors from ASUS on if/when the unlock tool will arrive for the Infinity?
Good to know
So no further reading hints? Maybe I should ask this one again in the general Android forums?
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Not yet, but the other Transformer devices got theirs about a month after launch, so we'll probably see one around mid to late August.
Please don't get a tablet to replace a notebook. If you must do so, please get an ipad instead so that when you come back to ***** about how your tablet doesn't feel like a laptop, it will be the iFans' problem not ours.
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Please don't get a tablet to replace a notebook. If you must do so, please get an ipad instead so that when you come back to ***** about how your tablet doesn't feel like a laptop, it will be the iFans' problem not ours.
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Its called realistic expectations. For lightweight tasks it should be just fine. Obviously you're not going to compile code, edit video or play Crysis on it. For web browsing and lightweight office documents, it'll be fine. You also missed the part where he said he wanted to dual-boot which would indeed make it more of a true laptop functionality wise.
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Its called realistic expectations. For lightweight tasks it should be just fine. Obviously you're not going to compile code, edit video or play Crysis on it. For web browsing and lightweight office documents, it'll be fine. You also missed the part where he said he wanted to dual-boot which would indeed make it more of a true laptop functionality wise.
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Even with dual boot, at best it will feel like a netbook. Ever since the transformer first came out, I've seen dozens of people whine about how their transformer didn't feel like a laptop. Heck, I saw this even when the ipad was the only tablet in town. New ipad users would whine and whine and whine that the ipad didn't feel like a laptop. They bought the tablet with the attitude of using it like a notebook, and then the huge disappointment hits.
Just wait and see the same OP come back a couple months later whining to us how no matter what he tried he couldn't get his infinity to act like a notebook. Like I said, I've seen this before.
as the seconds OS, i'd love Windows 8...or RT
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as the seconds OS, i'd love Windows 8...or RT
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Win8 wont ever run because its made for x86 cpus, but someone might be able to hack WinRT onto it. I'll admit it'll probably be cool if it happens... but the locked down environment would be a bit of a deal killer for me.
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Even with dual boot, at best it will feel like a netbook. Ever since the transformer first came out, I've seen dozens of people whine about how their transformer didn't feel like a laptop.
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A Netbook experience is good enough for me. Like I pointed out, I do have a Quadcore-8GB-RAM Desktop that I use to work productively. Right now I have a DualCore-1.6Ghz-32Bit-Notebook, for mobile use, which has poor battery life and takes long to go on and off, and it is slowly falling apart (flickering screen once in a while). I don't even mind the performance on the device, I worry more about weight, long boot-up time, 1h20min battery life.This device and use-case I hope to replace.
Do you really think I will be dissappointed by the Infinity?
To sum up, what is important to me (many +s => more important):
- mail, browsing, instant-messaging ( +++ )
- contacts and calender (with sync) ( +++ )
- use a terminal / ssh ( +++ )
- not having to worry about battery life and cables, fast on and off ( +++ )
- watching videos while lying on the sofa ( ++ )
- looking at fotos on a nice screen ( ++ )
- reading some pdf files ( ++ )
- hacking some latex or some other small bits of code (can be compiled remotely aswell) ( + )
I couldn't care less about Gaming, Flash-Applications and fancy interface animations (I hope I can deactivate those if they slow things down).
I thought the Transformers would be pretty good at this. Especially the foto-thing with the nice screen resolution and all the mobility stuff, because, well its a tablet with a keyboard
I was mostly worried about the hackability of the device, i.e. being able to adapt the operating system to my workflow and such (thats why I am mostly interested in dualboot, because I know I can tweak a Debian to behave like I want it to). [1]
But if you guys think the transformer really is not good for my use cases, please tell me!
Thanks!
[1] The only slight worry I had about the hardware, is maybe the RAM not being to enough for regular Linux usage (really, considiring how inexpensive RAM is today, and how expensive the other stuff they put in, they could easily have put 2GB in the infinity and charged 10€ more).
h?2 said:
A Netbook experience is good enough for me. Like I pointed out, I do have a Quadcore-8GB-RAM Desktop that I use to work productively. Right now I have a DualCore-1.6Ghz-32Bit-Notebook, for mobile use, which has poor battery life and takes long to go on and off, and it is slowly falling apart (flickering screen once in a while). I don't even mind the performance on the device, I worry more about weight, long boot-up time, 1h20min battery life.This device and use-case I hope to replace.
Do you really think I will be dissappointed by the Infinity?
To sum up, what is important to me (many +s => more important):
- mail, browsing, instant-messaging ( +++ )
- contacts and calender (with sync) ( +++ )
- use a terminal / ssh ( +++ )
- not having to worry about battery life and cables, fast on and off ( +++ )
- watching videos while lying on the sofa ( ++ )
- looking at fotos on a nice screen ( ++ )
- reading some pdf files ( ++ )
- hacking some latex or some other small bits of code (can be compiled remotely aswell) ( + )
I couldn't care less about Gaming, Flash-Applications and fancy interface animations (I hope I can deactivate those if they slow things down).
I thought the Transformers would be pretty good at this. Especially the foto-thing with the nice screen resolution and all the mobility stuff, because, well its a tablet with a keyboard
I was mostly worried about the hackability of the device, i.e. being able to adapt the operating system to my workflow and such (thats why I am mostly interested in dualboot, because I know I can tweak a Debian to behave like I want it to). [1]
But if you guys think the transformer really is not good for my use cases, please tell me!
Thanks!
[1] The only slight worry I had about the hardware, is maybe the RAM not being to enough for regular Linux usage (really, considiring how inexpensive RAM is today, and how expensive the other stuff they put in, they could easily have put 2GB in the infinity and charged 10€ more).
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Sorry to push this, but I am really undecided after your previous comments and after having bought na Android phone that doesn't really make me happy software-wise.
Does anyone have more thoughts on this?
Thanks.
The TF700 running Android is fine for all of these and in my opinion better than netbook running Windows, but it's far less comfortable to do some pro Office stuff on it, although not impossible. I think you'll be fine for these, especially with the FHD screen (I read many pdfs and I like it much better on my Infinity) and a rooted device (ssh, term), offline sync (esp. with Google) is also the best under Android IMHO.
The bootloader can be unlocked now, but you'll have to do some research yourself for the Linux capabilities there.
h?2 said:
A Netbook experience is good enough for me. Like I pointed out, I do have a Quadcore-8GB-RAM Desktop that I use to work productively. Right now I have a DualCore-1.6Ghz-32Bit-Notebook, for mobile use, which has poor battery life and takes long to go on and off, and it is slowly falling apart (flickering screen once in a while). I don't even mind the performance on the device, I worry more about weight, long boot-up time, 1h20min battery life.This device and use-case I hope to replace.
Do you really think I will be dissappointed by the Infinity?
To sum up, what is important to me (many +s => more important):
- mail, browsing, instant-messaging ( +++ )
- contacts and calender (with sync) ( +++ )
- use a terminal / ssh ( +++ )
- not having to worry about battery life and cables, fast on and off ( +++ )
- watching videos while lying on the sofa ( ++ )
- looking at fotos on a nice screen ( ++ )
- reading some pdf files ( ++ )
- hacking some latex or some other small bits of code (can be compiled remotely aswell) ( + )
I couldn't care less about Gaming, Flash-Applications and fancy interface animations (I hope I can deactivate those if they slow things down).
I thought the Transformers would be pretty good at this. Especially the foto-thing with the nice screen resolution and all the mobility stuff, because, well its a tablet with a keyboard
I was mostly worried about the hackability of the device, i.e. being able to adapt the operating system to my workflow and such (thats why I am mostly interested in dualboot, because I know I can tweak a Debian to behave like I want it to). [1]
But if you guys think the transformer really is not good for my use cases, please tell me!
Thanks!
[1] The only slight worry I had about the hardware, is maybe the RAM not being to enough for regular Linux usage (really, considiring how inexpensive RAM is today, and how expensive the other stuff they put in, they could easily have put 2GB in the infinity and charged 10€ more).
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I personally think its great for those use cases. I am a developer and I use it for remote development all the time via SSH.
I would not buy it if you expect to run Debian or any other Linux distribution on the tablet natively. It is more difficult to get Linux running that it would seem. This is especially true if you want a responsive UI because 2D accel is usually difficult. Without 2D acceleration then the already slow CPU will be bogged down just trying run the display. All that said, it is quite possible that we may get Linux running well on the TF700(I plan to work on this myself at some point) but I wouldn't count on it.
I was in the same boat as you but I actually find I rarely want/need a true GNU Linux set up on my Transformer. Much of what I would have used I wind up doing it via SSH. If you really needed to do it locally you could use a chroot.
dalingrin said:
I would not buy it if you expect to run Debian or any other Linux distribution on the tablet natively. It is more difficult to get Linux running that it would seem. This is especially true if you want a responsive UI because 2D accel is usually difficult. Without 2D acceleration then the already slow CPU will be bogged down just trying run the display. All that said, it is quite possible that we may get Linux running well on the TF700(I plan to work on this myself at some point) but I wouldn't count on it.
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It looks like (binary ) drivers for X11 are available from nvidia and on their way into Debian:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=634100
So UI should be responsive with both 2d and 3d accel...
I was in the same boat as you but I actually find I rarely want/need a true GNU Linux set up on my Transformer. Much of what I would have used I wind up doing it via SSH. If you really needed to do it locally you could use a chroot.
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I have a device now, and I am not too happy with the software, e.g. there is no proper Free Software email client. K-9 mail is only designed for phones and the tablet version by the same people is proprietary.
I definitely want to persue the native dual boot plan. If you are also interested in this, maybe we can team up?
Other than that I am still waiting for CM builds, although I am unsure if they will actually improve the experience.
The hardware of the tf700t is really great, though, I absolutely love the display, the keyboard is ok, too and battery life is top notch.
It's probably not what you want.
This may look like a rant, but I am writing this more as a cautionary tale so others can avoid making the mistake I did.
I'm the kind of person who obsessively researches everything before buying. When I bought the TF700, I made a very thorough search for features and drawbacks. I was aware that the RAM was not upgradeable, and that was fine by me. I saw the wifi and microSD slot issues the prime is plagued with - wifi coverage being a top priority for me along with battery life, and a safe SD card slot crucial if I was going to have just 32GB of internal storage), and I concluded the Infinity was a safer choice, even if I didn't care for the better screen. I was aware the processor had a different architecture, but linux runs on ARM and so does windows 8. What I was not aware of, because I did not even think it could work like this, is that this not a computer.
I really can't stress this enough. This is not a computer. There's no plain old bios, no freedom to partition your drive as you wish and installing whatever OS you damn well please. After plenty of bad experiences with warranties, I won't risk voiding it to unlock the bootloader (and a two-year warranty at that - the joys of being european), and even if I did, all I've recently read on dual booting gives me the impression of it being awkward and cumbersome to use - no friendly neighbourhood grub configuring, and way more firmware flashing than I'm comfortable with.
If you DON'T want to risk voiding your warranty, expect plenty of headaches trying to get linux running inside android , a non upgradeable linux image, and an unusable graphical interface. What was said about it being slow but okay for menu heavy stuff? It's not. Not, at least, if you plan on using a programming IDE like eclipse, it isn't. I spent the whole day today looking for VNC alternatives and trying to get RDP or X11 Forwarding to work (there is a basic X server android port which works with connectbot, after all), but getting the X server to start from the mounted ubuntu image has proven to be beyond my knowledge.
In short this has proven to be for me just an expensive web browsing toy, definitely more expensive than what I can afford if it's not going to be a true workstation. The worst part? It's a pretty awesome toy at that, and if fnac will let me exchange it, it will be pretty hard for me to part with it. I still love the TF700 for what it is, but I can't afford this and a new computer.
At first this looks like a laptop, quacks like a laptop... but won't really swim or fly. So, if you need more than web browsing, movie watching and document editing, save yourself the trouble and the hurt.
I disagree with the people saying that you would not be happy with the TF700.
It is obviously true that the Infinity is not a laptop. It's not even a "proper" netbook, as most people would assume a netbook has an x86 processor. Saying that it will outright not satisfy someone is illogical, though. Just because h?2 mentioned that he wishes to replace a laptop doesn't mean that (s?)he is immediately not going to be able to accomplish the tasks that he planned to use a laptop for with the TF700.
I had a standard sort of Asus EeePC netbook for a few months and then began playing with Android tablets. I ended up settling on the original Transformer tablet with its keyboard dock. The things I was using the netbook for were immediately taken over by the Transformer, and after having not used my netbook for 4 months, I just gave it to my mother. The tablet was good enough for browsing the web (and with Chrome browsing has gotten significantly better than it had been when I first got the tablet), staying on top of email in almost real-time, music, my video library, Netflix and Hulu, and keeping track of my servers via SSH.
I have settled on some apps that I'll suggest to you for some of the things you are trying to accomplish:
Maildroid - This is the only e-mail client that meets all of my needs - Free
Better Terminal Emulator Pro (BTEP) - This is an amazing terminal client and SSH client... worth every penny!! - $3.99 (USD)
Chrome - Every Android browser had at least one issue that I hate. Chrome has changed that, and I use it exclusively - Free
TeamViewer - This is one of the easiest to use remote GUI clients available, and it works with Linux and Windows - Free for non-commercial use
TeamViewer isn't perfect... it isn't free open-source software, but it gives me fantastic control of my Windows PC without forcing my session to log off when I log in remotely with remote desktop. Remote desktop on Win 7 Ultimate does strange things and does not allow multiple users to log in the same way it does on Windows Server 2008 R2. TeamViewer allows me to take advantage of my tremendously powerful home desktop PC (with a Core i7-3930K) and all its virtual machines when I need to do some real computing.
BTEP is the absolute best terminal and SSH client program that I have found, and I have tested pretty much every one that was available a year ago. It allows you to use the tablet itself as if it is a minimalist GNU/Linux machine, which comes in handy more often that you might think, assuming you are used to the Linux command line. The SSH client is also great, and supports key pair authentication. I IRC from my Linode (a Linux VPS company) VPS, and BTEP allows me to bind the volume and a few other buttons to normal keyboard buttons. I can use the volume buttons to send the key bindings for F1 and F2, which are bound to previous and next window in IRSSI. It is useless for most people, but the fact that they put the thought into supporting that tells you something about their forethought when developing this software. It is one of only a very few apps that I decided were worth spending money on.
With the combination of TeamViewer and BTEP, I have access to all the computing and network resources that I could ever need. I often use TeamViewer if there is a pressing reason to use Firefox on my desktop rather than the tablet's mobile browser. I can also remotely work with LibreOffice if I need to do anything that I don't feel Polaris Office can handle. I don't even have the temptation to bother installing Ubuntu on my tablet because I simply don't need that functionality. I can get everything done that I need using Android and the apps available in the Google Play market.
So, yeah, a tablet is not a laptop, but sometimes a tablet is all you really need. It sounds a lot like h?2 doesn't need much more than a tablet with a nice physical keyboard. Tweaking the tablet to run or dual-boot Debian is something that may not even need to be done, but he can certainly take on that challenge because he might find it fun!
IT Wannabe;32653963Tweaking the tablet to run or dual-boot Debian is something that may not even need to be done said:
Certainly, but don't forget the bit about losing the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. I for one don't like gambling hundreds of euros that way.
You raised an excellent point there: if one needs to do some actual development but doesn't mind a) requiring a second machine always connected and b) requiring to always be online in order to work, then it's okay. That is not my case though. Even if I don't require a great deal of computing power, I do require a true workstation, and the ability to work offline. If those are dealbreakers for the OP, he will indeed be better off avoiding making the mistake I did.
Oh - and from my experience tweaking, much like cooking, stops being fun once you have no other choice but doing it. (Right now, for instance, I'm tearing my hear out getting the wifi to work again after rooting. I guess I'll just reset everything to stock and return it to fnac before my month is due.)
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Hello! My name is arcane arts. i just joined this forum :victory:
Let me cut straight to the point. Basically, i'm looking into buying the 3g+Wifi model of the Note 10.1. I know all of its features, i know its specs by heart, i did all the research i could. It seems like such a good tablet for me, but i need a second opinion.
What i will be using it for:
- General all 'round entertainment (Music/Movies)
- School work/notes
- Graphic work (I'm a free lance graphic designer, and i'm starting web development)
Simple huh?
I know it can do all these things, but my main concern is if it can run CAD applications.I do design technology at GCSE level at the moment, and i have a bulky laptop which i don't want to carry around school all day with me. I'm going through the controlled assessment and i need to know if it can do 3d Modelling, and will help me for sketching my initial Ideas, development, etc.
If it can't run CAD, is there anything similar on the note? Am i considering the wrong tablet completely? please help!
-AA
Don't get the 3g version
ArcaneArts said:
Hello! My name is arcane arts. i just joined this forum :victory:
Let me cut straight to the point. Basically, i'm looking into buying the 3g+Wifi model of the Note 10.1. I know all of its features, i know its specs by heart, i did all the research i could. It seems like such a good tablet for me, but i need a second opinion.
What i will be using it for:
- General all 'round entertainment (Music/Movies)
- School work/notes
- Graphic work (I'm a free lance graphic designer, and i'm starting web development)
Simple huh?
I know it can do all these things, but my main concern is if it can run CAD applications.I do design technology at GCSE level at the moment, and i have a bulky laptop which i don't want to carry around school all day with me. I'm going through the controlled assessment and i need to know if it can do 3d Modelling, and will help me for sketching my initial Ideas, development, etc.
If it can't run CAD, is there anything similar on the note? Am i considering the wrong tablet completely? please help!
-AA
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hi arcane arts. i have the note 10.1 and i really love it. i dont know what some of those applications are but for notetakeing i use it everyday for school. I also thought that i would need the 3g wifi but then i herd about wifi tethering from your android phone for free so i just leave the hotspot on in my pocket and just use the wifi version
Did you have a look at this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.autodesk.autocadws&hl=de
ArcaneArts said:
Hello! My name is arcane arts. i just joined this forum :victory:
Let me cut straight to the point. Basically, i'm looking into buying the 3g+Wifi model of the Note 10.1. I know all of its features, i know its specs by heart, i did all the research i could. It seems like such a good tablet for me, but i need a second opinion.
What i will be using it for:
- General all 'round entertainment (Music/Movies)
- School work/notes
- Graphic work (I'm a free lance graphic designer, and i'm starting web development)
Simple huh?
I know it can do all these things, but my main concern is if it can run CAD applications.I do design technology at GCSE level at the moment, and i have a bulky laptop which i don't want to carry around school all day with me. I'm going through the controlled assessment and i need to know if it can do 3d Modelling, and will help me for sketching my initial Ideas, development, etc.
If it can't run CAD, is there anything similar on the note? Am i considering the wrong tablet completely? please help!
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I can tell you, as an engineering student, this tablet is great! The hard part is deciding to use snotes or lecture notes, sometimes I just switch between the two. Snotes is great for drawing diagrams and stuff because it can fit what you draw to well defined shapes and is mostly accurate when making perpendicular and parallel lines as well as arrows, and using different colored pens helps a lot as well. Exporting my notes as a pdf to drop box so I can access them everywhere in a nice organized and color coded fashion with all my books as well. The screenshot organic to the device is great as well. Being able to take a screenshot of my books and cropping out the formulas and stuff I need is great for taking notes while reading, importing the images into a note file.
The clipboard comes in handy a lot as well, making the best use of copy and paste with both images and text.
This is the best tablet for school stuff.
As far as handling CAD, that would have to be an app for that on the android market. The one posted earlier looks like it might be what you're looking for but it is in german, the english version is just an en at the end of the url https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.autodesk.autocadws&hl=en
I have seen auto CAD viewers though. There is a search tool though in the snotes with the formulas and stuff that sends it to wolfram alpha so that is nice to do some cool calculations.
There are some apps that make pdf's from pictures, and does a great job with whiteboards even from angles to make it look very nice
There are a lot of CAD apps on the market, just not sure how good any of them are, would depend on your particular need and wants
Thank you very much to everyone for replying! I think i will definitely be getting the tablet
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I do lots of AV designing and hence need to work on lots of Autocad drawings, I will be honest I have never used Autocad WS to edit one till date but viewing any drawing on no matter how big it is, is not an issue. It takes some time to open it because i think the software does some processing before opening the drawing but there are no lags when you zoom in or out or pan