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Just recently bought this phone, and after scouring this forums the past few days I found that the EMUI that shipped with my phone is 4-5 months old (Dec '16) and that there have been multiple updates since, even though the OTA on my phone says I'm using the latest version. This scares me, not so much for features, but because of potentially missing security patches.
Looking at hwmt.ru's listings, there's a lot of updates, and for my specific model the latest OTA is B181, and the latest "full" update (I assume these are whole images) is B156.
Can I download the B156 updates (basically the same way used when rooting the phone) to update the stock ROM?
And if that is correct, what are all the listings on that site under the "A" (or "Тип") column with "OTA" for?
Download the firmware finder app for android and update through it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146
You probably won't be able to update to 181 though... You'll have to test which ones you can install. Huawei needs to approve each firmware version before we can install through system update.
B181 didn't work, authentication error, gonna try the other way and work my way up instead.
Nice that someone made a tool to automate this though, even though it's a hacky way
Nevermind that, every single version gets that authentication error, even the ones older than the one I have currently installed.
Hello everybody,
Firstly, apologies about all text, no links.. But i'm new to the site and don't have enough posts to link yet.
So, i'm new to the Mate 9 (had Samsungs for quite a few years now... Overpriced battery sucking hogs that never last to 18 months withou massive issues) and I really haven't gotten into the custon side of/flashing etc since my original galaxy (dunut, before the s!) /HTC Desire, sgs3 days.... So i'm probably quite out of touch... But still capable to learn and especially follow a good guide!
Now, my thing is... I want to stay stock as I use Android pay quite a lot... Yet with my experience with optus they are ATROCIOUS at updates, every with volume sale items like the Galaxy s4, 5 &6 so I can only imagine that i'll never get an update with the mate 9.
I purchased my phone outright, but second hand.... So I don't think I'll have a warranty anyway.
So far I have gathered that I can only debrand if I unlock the bootloader (and pay remains broken even if it gets relocked with an original rom) so for me, at least for the time being, that's out.
My next option is to side load firmware from the SD card... I just want to keep up to date. There is some screen sensitivity issues that the newest firmware apparently addresses.. Not to mention camera updates and battery usage updates (already VERY impressed with the battery though, especially after my S6- Awful phone)
Trouble is, I can't get any update to complete! - They get to 5% and then fail!
The firmware models I've tried have slightly different numbers to what's on my Optus Mate 9... But I can't find any exact matches, so I'm kind of expecting this to be the cause of my failed updates, even when I've downloaded from the different sites following the guides.
Currently i'm running with this;
Model: MHA-L09
Build: MHA-L09C34B122
EMUI: 5.0
Android: 7.0
and I have tried these three updates from the Huawei... Note 2 full and one OTA. Also note the firmware/region differences... But it's as close as I can find.
2017.04.25 MHA L09BC346B181 FULL-MF
2017.04.25 MHA L09BC346B181 OTA-MF
2017.04.24 MHA L09BC34B170 FULL-MF
I've also followed these two guides (and another one with a B170 update), downloading the updates from each respective site in case the firmware was something different than what I could find. Note also that one tells you to put the dload folder into the device memory.. Which won't work, so I just did it in SD which enables the phone to recognise the update file.
(links not allowed sorry, removed and replaced with text, can probably google to see what I did, always fails on step 1)
From get droid tips, upgrade to B170 & B181
from stechguide, upgrade it B181
Not to mention having followed all the guides I could find on this forum.
I'm sorry if I've missed a discussion that already deals with this (or similar) or if it's really bleedingly obvious. I'm just at a bit of a loss here!
Thanks in advance.
Sorry,
This is for Australian firmware. Optus.
Use this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/how-to/guide-mate-9-flash-update-package-t3593108
I don't get why sites write down guides on how to update, when we in fact can't update using DLOAD. Only 2 offline firmwares have been released so far, for C636 and AL00. But that guide up there will let you update to 181.
Thanks for that,
I'd obviously misunderstood what's available already... Figured since I don't have the 10x zoom available like the latest release, I was behind.
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Use this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/how-to/guide-mate-9-flash-update-package-t3593108
I don't get why sites write down guides on how to update, when we in fact can't update using DLOAD. Only 2 offline firmwares have been released so far, for C636 and AL00. But that guide up there will let you update to 181.
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Yes, new users are led the wrong way by reading these guides.
The dload method probably worked with older devices so the Mate 9 articles seem to be created by copy and paste and replacing the older devices name with "Mate 9". Voila! There's your new shiny article about the Mate 9 and people klick it.
Yeah. I got sucked in. Noob mistake.
Sorry for polluting the board with my stupidity!
Very out of touch with behind the scenes android.
Thanks for taking the time guys
Since you don't want to unlock your bootloader you are stuck to only one method. And that is the Firmware Finder method and try to push the latest C34B170 FULL-MF to your System Updater and hope it is authenticated. The other link mentioned by ante0 is for unlocked bootloader users only using TWRP and modified recovery images.
Saw that. Figured I'm just stuck as is for now. I'll check out what you're referring to!
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Since you don't want to unlock your bootloader you are stuck to only one method. And that is the Firmware Finder method and try to push the latest C34B170 FULL-MF to your System Updater and hope it is authenticated. The other link mentioned by ante0 is for unlocked bootloader users only using TWRP and modified recovery images.
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New Mate 9 owner here, have been trying to update from MHA-L29C636B172 to MHA-L29C636B180 using the Firmware Finder method and push to OTA.
System update has picked up the new version but every time I try to download and update, it gets to 100% and then tells me I need to update Package 1 which is the same size, it downloads that, tells me I need to update Package 2, same size, downloads that, Package 3 etc, etc in a never ending loop! I’ve tried using both the smaller update package and the full package. I built up an update file of over 5GB trying to do it this way and it never gets to the authentication stage!
Although I’ve always unlocked my bootloader, flashed custom recoveries and roms on my previous Android devices I’m not keen to take that path yet.
In a nutshell, am I doing something wrong or should I just wait for the official authenticated firmware update to pop up on my phone? Thanks.
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should I just wait for the official authenticated firmware update to pop up on my phone? Thanks.
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IMHO yes you should. Don't let FF/FH turn into an obsession, just enjoy your phone.
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Texan1 said:
New Mate 9 owner here, have been trying to update from MHA-L29C636B172 to MHA-L29C636B180 using the Firmware Finder method and push to OTA.
System update has picked up the new version but every time I try to download and update, it gets to 100% and then tells me I need to update Package 1 which is the same size, it downloads that, tells me I need to update Package 2, same size, downloads that, Package 3 etc, etc in a never ending loop! I’ve tried using both the smaller update package and the full package. I built up an update file of over 5GB trying to do it this way and it never gets to the authentication stage!
Although I’ve always unlocked my bootloader, flashed custom recoveries and roms on my previous Android devices I’m not keen to take that path yet.
In a nutshell, am I doing something wrong or should I just wait for the official authenticated firmware update to pop up on my phone? Thanks.
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Once you start download.. pause it then go turn off the proxy and then go back to the update and resume. Then you won't get the incremental download loop.
By the way, when you unlock bootloader on mate 9, then flash a full firmware (either the update and rebrand guide, Firmware finder or funky) your bootloader gets locked again. So no real harm done.
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Once you start download.. pause it then go turn off the proxy and then go back to the update and resume. Then you won't get the incremental download loop.
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Thanks @Leighm0, but still getting the 'authentication failed' message once downloaded. Is there anything I can do to prevent that and get the update through?
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Thanks @Leighm0, but still getting the 'authentication failed' message once downloaded. Is there anything I can do to prevent that and get the update through?
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Nope, thats Huawei not authenticating the update for your device yet... you just have to wait. Took me about 3-4 weeks from the time of release before B182 got approved for my C636 device.
I just randomly check every week till its finally approved - I try not to keep checking as its pointless and a waste of bandwidth.
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Nope, thats Huawei not authenticating the update for your device yet... you just have to wait. Took me about 3-4 weeks from the time of release before B182 got approved for my C636 device.
I just randomly check every week till its finally approved - I try not to keep checking as its pointless and a waste of bandwidth.
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Thanks @Leighm0. Unsure what the point of Firmware Finder and the proxy is then? If it allows you to find the firmware earlier, but you still can’t install it because Huawei need to authenticate it first, why not just check for updates using the built in system updater?
Good question... Wondering that myself.
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Thanks @Leighm0. Unsure what the point of Firmware Finder and the proxy is then? If it allows you to find the firmware earlier, but you still can’t install it because Huawei need to authenticate it first, why not just check for updates using the built in system updater?
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Nope - I still had to get FF Proxy to push it to system updater.. just needs to be authenticated by Huawei first. OTA did not show up under the standard "check for updates" options.. it might have shown up, but how long do I need to wait for that ? My device is not available in Australia, would it even get OTA updates if it werent for FF proxy?
Next time a firmware comes out, I could do a test to see if it does even get it by normal methods - and that is to push with FF Proxy, wait for the update to be authorized... then cancel it... turn off FF Proxy and wait for it to show up in my system updater naturally.. see how slow Huawei are at pushing it? Be interesting to see.
The above would probably not be relevant to an Australian sold model/device - it should get OTA updates when they are pushed out..
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Nope - I still had to get FF Proxy to push it to system updater.. just needs to be authenticated by Huawei first. OTA did not show up under the standard "check for updates" options.. it might have shown up, but how long do I need to wait for that ? My device is not available in Australia, would it even get OTA updates if it werent for FF proxy?
Next time a firmware comes out, I could do a test to see if it does even get it by normal methods - and that is to push with FF Proxy, wait for the update to be authorized... then cancel it... turn off FF Proxy and wait for it to show up in my system updater naturally.. see how slow Huawei are at pushing it? Be interesting to see.
The above would probably not be relevant to an Australian sold model/device - it should get OTA updates when they are pushed out..
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Ah, ok, well explained mate. So there is a delay between FF and OTA finding the update and then there is a delay as to when Huawei decide to authenticate it.
Are firmware and when Huawei decide to authenticate based on model number? Geographic regions? Mobile carrier?
Mine was purchased via Hong Kong and is the MHA-L29C636 model which I believe is the version JB HiFi sell as well.
Texan1 said:
Ah, ok, well explained mate. So there is a delay between FF and OTA finding the update and then there is a delay as to when Huawei decide to authenticate it.
Are firmware and when Huawei decide to authenticate based on model number? Geographic regions? Mobile carrier?
Mine was purchased via Hong Kong and is the MHA-L29C636 model which I believe is the version JB HiFi sell as well.
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Not sure how Huawei do their authentication approvals.. but it's not model number.. as someone with same model as mine got theirs authenticated 3-4 weeks before mine did (they were in different country). Could be region and or mobile carrier.. who knows.
Mine was purchased from Thailand and is the LON-L29C636 but is not sold anywhere here in Australia. Correct your model is indeed sold by JB Hi-fi.. so would think you get yours approved same time as those who bought here in AU from JB. But again this could be wrong and they could base authentication on something else... Maybe serial number groupings or who knows?!?!
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Not sure how Huawei do their authentication approvals.. but it's not model number.. as someone with same model as mine got theirs authenticated 3-4 weeks before mine did (they were in different country). Could be region and or mobile carrier.. who knows.
Mine was purchased from Thailand and is the LON-L29C636 but is not sold anywhere here in Australia. Correct your model is indeed sold by JB Hi-fi.. so would think you get yours approved same time as those who bought here in AU from JB. But again this could be wrong and they could base authentication on something else... Maybe serial number groupings or who knows?!?!
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Iirc they go by IMEI.
Hi. I got an Honor 9 through Three in the UK approx 3 months ago. It came unbranded and is currently on C432B100. Has anyone in the UK received any updates since getting their phone via OTA. I have already questioned this through HiCare chat and they have stated that there are some security updates coming soon. I previously had a P9 which never received an update in the 2 years I had it. Live chat also said that the updates are done in batches but i doubt there are that many Honor 9's in the UK to receive updates that warrant it to be put in batches.
Im stuck in the same situation, still on B100 firmware, with, what seems like no hope of any updates, im waiting on official oreo, as from what i have read, huawei already has the correct partitions for project treble, and someone has got oreo treble working on a mate 9, which has the kirin 960, and i think someone else got it booted on an honor 9.
i guess its just a waiting game for now. oreo is in beta, so i expect an official update soon.
Just use the firmware finder app to spoof updates to your device. I used this and am now on B180 working fine.
do the capacative buttons work on B180?
boroleigh said:
do the capacative buttons work on B180?
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I have no issues with full stock B180.
Thanks. Will give it a go later when I have time.
buchman said:
Just use the firmware finder app to spoof updates to your device. I used this and am now on B180 working fine.
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Ive got firmware finder installed, and can download the latest firmware, i'm assuming i need to then flash the zip with TWRP, only problem ive got is that I don't have a microSD card.
unless you can perform a 'fake' OTA with the firmware finder app?
It also says that the firmware is not approved for installation when I check access
i've found a B180 firmware on ff and used the in app proxy to install but got an unstable network message after 65% which then reset to 0. Am i doing anything wrong?
This is a bug in firmwarefinder, happens to me also sometimes. also you guys dont need a custom recovery, leave everything stock, bootloader locked and frp and the HWFF update can still be done. When unstable network message occurs for me it always helped to stop the HWFF proxy and restart it, then when everything is downloading well i leave the phone alone till 100%. Then update starts in the same way as OTA directly out of settings menu. No need for recovery, sd cards etc. Only make sure that you get the FULL OTA package and proof your imei first. If its not approved the huawei check wont verify the firmware and the installation will fail (without consequences).
approved firmwares are B120, B150 and B180 as far as i have checked myself. For the other ones i think the best is to install the nocheck_recovery
Hello
You can use also Funky Huawei. However, it is not free. But, it works fine.
Do tools like funkyhuawei and dc-unlocker execute more sophisticated code than you can do yourself?
Hi. Just updated to B180 via FF proxy. Had trouble getting it to download via WiFi so used my mobile data and worked perfectly.
I finally got it to work, successfully on b180 now, don't see why b181 etc.. is listed as they are not approved for install
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I finally got it to work, successfully on b180 now, don't see why b181 etc.. is listed as they are not approved for install
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It just lists all of the firmwares that are available for the model. There is a seperate check whether they have been approved for install.
I think the proxy in FF is only to trigger the download. I always shut it down straight after the download starts.
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I think it is neccesary to change proxy back
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Ok, I think not.
See demo: https://youtu.be/pt5pWPhcsW4
There's a short pause when you shut it down, but it resumes quickly afterwards on your standard connection.
Of course, there is nothing wrong keeping the proxy on during the download.
An update for people on B100 in the UK. I updated the other week to B180 via FF proxy. I received the OTA for B182 just now and everything working fine. So at least it still receives updates. One further mention, I previously had a p9 before my honor 9 and across almost 3 years this is the first update I have ever received. It makes.you wonder how bothered Huawei are about their phone updates.
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An update for people on B100 in the UK. I updated the other week to B180 via FF proxy. I received the OTA for B182 just now and everything working fine. So at least it still receives updates. One further mention, I previously had a p9 before my honor 9 and across almost 3 years this is the first update I have ever received. It makes.you wonder how bothered Huawei are about their phone updates.
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Thanks, UK on B100 as well, didn't realise there had been so many updates. I've just installed FF, can you tell me which version of B180 you selected? Was it the full version or the update?
Cheers
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Thanks, UK on B100 as well, didn't realise there had been so many updates. I've just installed FF, can you tell me which version of B180 you selected? Was it the full version or the update?
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Choose full if you have the bandwidth and time to be sure.
fregor said:
Choose full if you have the bandwidth and time to be sure.
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Thanks, I've started the download of the 3GB update file with the proxy then removed the proxy and it has continued. Downloading over a 4G hotspot so might take a bit of time. Hopefully I'll be updated soon and hopfully Three UK allow VoLTE for this handset.
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Hi guys! Would just like to seek some assistance regarding my girlfriend's phone. I know that the Oreo update is out for quite some time now, but her phone doesn't seem to be receiving the OTA update.
I've read some other guides instructing to use Firmware Finder(?). But I haven't tried it yet since I haven't seen her phone's build number from my searches.
Please see below:
Model: MHA-L29
Build Number: MHA-L29C185B110
We can find a lot of available firmware in the Firmware Finder app but I'm being extra cautious as I do not have any experience regarding this issue.
Any input or instructions will be greatly appreciated.
I wasnt seeing it either, called huawei support, pretty much useless. tried to do a forced Oreo update via huawei file finder and hisuite, but that bricked my phone. let the battery die down, then i got control of volume keys on boot, that got me to the erecovery, downloaded 7 again, oh well, at least it was going to work, but immediately upon reboot, it said i had an update to Oreo ready! so I did it and it worked. I think if you are rooted in 7, it wont find 8. just some food for thought.
The unit came from Dubai and we haven't done any rooting to it since we do not know how.
Is there any easier workaround for it?
Hadowken said:
The unit came from Dubai and we haven't done any rooting to it since we do not know how.
Is there any easier workaround for it?
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FF is easiest.
But you need to choose right ROM version.
Check other threads and notice what versions of region C185 were distributed by OTA.
In FF you must choose ROM with FullOTA-MF tag.
There are 186, 187, 188, 189 builds, but I don't know which is actual, cause I have C636 region.
Builds from B321 and higher are on Android 8 (Oreo). Otherwise, I recommend upgrade to last build on Android 7, then start experimenting with Oreo
There is one build B187 with FullOTA-MF-PV tag.
According changelog it created by Huawei to downgrade onto Android 7 from Oreo. But it is still FullOTA, so it is independent one. Thoughts, that it can be used to upgrade from your old build B110 to actual.
P.s. don't forget to turn proxy off before finishing download. It will avoid traffic waste.
P.p.s. Backup your important data first.
FullOTA doesn't clear user data usually, but FullOTA-MF-PV can do it.
Mha-l29c185b187 FullOTA-MF-PV
I saw a youtube video where he clicked the in-app proxy then he went to the WiFi settings to check to proxy. It was set to localhost and 8080.
After backing up important files, should I just go straight to the FF app and download the build? So sorry for the noob questions.
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I saw a youtube video where he clicked the in-app proxy then he went to the WiFi settings to check to proxy. It was set to localhost and 8080.
After backing up important files, should I just go straight to the FF app and download the build? So sorry for the noob questions.
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No need to download manually.
FF forces ROM to install via system update. It looks like phone will get notification about new ROM and you simply decide to install. Phone will download ROM and install it.
Okay, so all I have to do is choose the one you specified earlier them I'm all good? Will try it later and revert for any developments. Thank you!
So I tried downloading the build you suggested but after downloading, it failed to install and said the software was not authorized or something.
Are builds only compatible to its corresponding region? I'm from the Philippines, by the way. But the phone originated in the Middle East.
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So I tried downloading the build you suggested but after downloading, it failed to install and said the software was not authorized or something.
Are builds only compatible to its corresponding region? I'm from the Philippines, by the way. But the phone originated in the Middle East.
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Ok. Check availability by imei in FF of every FullOTA ROM version 186+
Full OTA MF only? Not Full OTA MF PV?
Got the update finally! I've been checking every day almost
Hello, sorry it took so long. I successfully updated the phone to a new build no. Mha-L29c185B188. But we still couldn't see the oreo update in the updater settings. Please advise next step for an oreo update.
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Hello, sorry it took so long. I successfully updated the phone to a new build no. Mha-L29c185B188. But we still couldn't see the oreo update in the updater settings. Please advise next step for an oreo update.
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Hi i live in Lebanon and i have the Middle east variant C185 and i am still on MHA-L29C185B188 since 2 months.
No Oreo update till today. maybe we have to just wait a little more. Normally release of OTA updates is by IMEI and not by region.
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Hi i live in Lebanon and i have the Middle east variant C185 and i am still on MHA-L29C185B188 since 2 months.
No Oreo update till today. maybe we have to just wait a little more. Normally release of OTA updates is by IMEI and not by region.
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I have a ME variant C185 as well. So I have been eagerly awaiting Oreo update since long too.
I have recently moved to Australia, as you rightly noted, the phone wouldnt update here too, since Huawei is probably checking region or IMEI or both to allow firmware updates.
Last night, I downloaded FF to check and finally managed to find Oreo update being available. Its currently downloading the 2.67 GB OTA update. But I didnt install it yet.
The version number of the download is 8.0.0.370 (C185).
You can try your luck thru FF, and I hope it works for you as well. Good luck!
I am sick of waiting for the oreo update so U have tried FF with no luck!
everyone says how easy it is but I'm not having any luck in it working!
I'm a bit for behind as you can see! MHA-L09C432B198
Looking on FF I have tried many of the firmware's available to me and I usually get "package checksum error" or somthing else and it just fails!
I have followed these instructions https://www.droidchief.com/how-to-use-firmware-finder-on-huawei-mate-9/ but still not getting anywhere!
I have read on this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/oreo-update-uk-t3781781 that people have jumped to 8.0.0.366 but when I try this in FF I get nowhere!
My phone is on the three network here in the UK if it helps!
I have figured out the checksum error its a problem with the system update program and you need to uninstall the updates for it
I just now need to figure out what is the right way to update as I am reading differing results!
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Did you manage to sort this after? I'm having exactly the same issue. Same carrier and same model number.
I think I was in exactly the same situation as you two (Three UK/B198/FF Checksum error). Had a bit of a nightmare (due to stupidity TBH);
1. Unlocked bootloader via DC unlocker, not too difficult.
2. Flashed TWRP - but had trouble choosing the right version.
3. Tried to flash Android N (B376) and damaged my system partition= bootloop/broken phone.
4. Did more reading around and realised that there are slightly different requirements for Android O vs Android N.
5. Managed to re-flash B198 which fixed my system partition and got the phone working.
6. Finally flashed B376, now on Android O.
Wouldn't do it again as it was not worth the time or worry.
If you want to go for it, read up on DC unlocker and "HWOTA" (get an earlier version that works with Android N, not the latest version). Easy to end up with a "bricked" phone though, so I don't think it's worth it.
Are your phones network locked? Im from Ph. My mate9 was locked with no updates. When i unlocked it, updates started to download. I used dc unlocker to unlock network for 4 euros.
Hope this helps.