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Reasons not to buy an Honor 8?

I'm about to pack in my old, beloved M8, which has told me in no uncertain terms that its life is drawing to a close. I've spent way too much time researching, and arrived at the conclusion that the Honor 8 is my best fit. It's not as small as I wanted to be (I love everything about the Xperia Z5 Compact except that it cracks if you look at it funny and heats up enough to start a campfire), but the specs are there and the price is right.
The only real concerns I have left are the reports that it doesn't like to connect to LTE at times, even when there's a strong signal, and EMUI's taking away my app drawer. Are those real concerns, or just overblown? Is there anything I'm missing in terms of a reason to love or be wary of the Honor 8?
Thanks in advance. I'm seeing lots of reviews loving it, and Ars burying it because it's not a OnePlus 3, so that's reassuring.

T.J. Bender said:
I'm about to pack in my old, beloved M8, which has told me in no uncertain terms that its life is drawing to a close. I've spent way too much time researching, and arrived at the conclusion that the Honor 8 is my best fit. It's not as small as I wanted to be (I love everything about the Xperia Z5 Compact except that it cracks if you look at it funny and heats up enough to start a campfire), but the specs are there and the price is right.
The only real concerns I have left are the reports that it doesn't like to connect to LTE at times, even when there's a strong signal, and EMUI's taking away my app drawer. Are those real concerns, or just overblown? Is there anything I'm missing in terms of a reason to love or be wary of the Honor 8?
Thanks in advance. I'm seeing lots of reviews loving it, and Ars burying it because it's not a OnePlus 3, so that's reassuring.
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Haven't had any issues with lte on tmobile.
Just install a custom launcher. I put pixel launcher and works fine.
My only concern is updates and dev support

tlxxxsracer said:
Haven't had any issues with lte on tmobile.
Just install a custom launcher. I put pixel launcher and works fine.
My only concern is updates and dev support
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Does Pixel Launcher let you have an app drawer again?

Yes.

tlxxxsracer said:
Yes.
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Pretty damn sure I'm buying it then.

Hi, i think the phone is quite perfect, except for the chassis...is very easy to scratch it , and after just 7 days showed signs of wear on the rear

I'm too considering H8 but if true,this user review from gsmarena has a point(or two):
Since I had both(gave Honor 8 to my sister),if look at it straight objective...it's a no contest win for Mi5.
While the build quality is same,both are fingerprint magnets in specific colors,and looks is a highly subjective point,i can name few things Mi5 has the edge:
CPU + GPU is highly(and I mean HIGHLY) superior in Mi5 if u play games.
Screen in Mi5 is superior in everything to Honor 8 even in blacks.
Screen has Gorilla Glass4,Honor's...if it has any,manufacturers of it needs to be sued. Scratches like anything I've seen in my life from both front and rear. No keyes,no lighters,no change in pocket. It just does.
Sound is superior in Mi5 and I'm talking headphones here.
Dev support is slam dunk win for Mi5. Cyanogen mod official is coming now that kernel is released and community is more alive. XDA has signed agreement with Huaweii regarding dev of roms for H8 but devs are unwilling to work in unknown enviroment(Kirin) for now. So you're stuck with EMUI or what it's called. MIUI in Mi5 is no paradise either but at least u have options and they will be only bigger in near future.
Honor has better cam if you're a photo freak. To me,to my FB,twitter and instagram,they're the same in terms of performing.
So considering recent pricing that puts Mi5 3/64 version around 300-320$(delivery in EU,and pricing likely to go down as Mi5s announced for next week) I objectively cant see any reason to go for Honor 8.
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And it seems to me,looking that other thread with complaints bout scratches + some reviews that have mentioned it,that phone is built with cheap materials and that is,personally a deal breaker for me.

troublecro said:
I'm too considering H8 but if true,this user review from gsmarena has a point(or two):
And it seems to me,looking that other thread with complaints bout scratches + some reviews that have mentioned it,that phone is built with cheap materials and that is,personally a deal breaker for me.
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Sand also scratches Gorilla Glas 4/5, to me personaly the device doesn`t look or feel cheap and both performance and batterylife is great. What more can you ask?

People don't carry sand in their pockets dude. It's like counter argumenting that crocodiles kill humans too when someone says that motor bikes are dangerous.
And i'm having my Xperia Z3C 2 years now,carried it in Thor Steinar bag with Zippo lighter,coins and keys(I miss sand tho) for 99% time,no tempered glass no case. Not a scratch on the screen.
Excuse me If i look for a replacement with same quility of screen(and overall) protection. I don't fancy buying a good looking phone just to armor it up like I'm heading to a warzone.

What about things like battery time, has it got a removable battery so it's not a brick or DIY project after a few years, will it get Android 7, 8 and so on. That far outweighs things like having Crapple A10 speed or 4K screen res. for me, hands down. Paying $1000 and you don't even get a notification LED on some devices, geez.

For the LTE connection I didnt find any problem as I already used for 2 months already.

tlxxxsracer said:
Haven't had any issues with lte on tmobile.
Just install a custom launcher. I put pixel launcher and works fine.
My only concern is updates and dev support
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Honor US, India and UK models provides updates for minimum 2 years from the date of release. i.e you will get update till Android O for sure.
Remember that Honor 4X which released in Kitkat is now running on Marshmallow. So you will get for sure.
Regarding Dev support, Since Honor has joined hands with XDA, it will be improved hopefully.

iMaterial said:
What about things like battery time, has it got a removable battery so it's not a brick or DIY project after a few years, will it get Android 7, 8 and so on. That far outweighs things like having Crapple A10 speed or 4K screen res. for me, hands down. Paying $1000 and you don't even get a notification LED on some devices, geez.
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SOT is amazing, people are reporting 7h in average

the only downfall is the less durable screen on the back which is prominent to scratches.

I wish the back glass was as strong as the front

GPS bug and light sensor still not fixed
Current version (after last soft release) still has a very crappy light sensor and a huge GPS bug.
whenever you're indoor, GPS is reset to position 0;0, thus teleporting you in the Atlantic Ocean... and ruining every Driving app that was running at the moment.
Currently triggers in every long tunnel, 100% when indoor , randomly if your car windows are blocking GPS signals ....
I bought one , considering all the reviews (sponsored or not), but i had to sent it back.
Now back with my Z3C.

GrrXDA said:
Current version (after last soft release) still has a very crappy light sensor and a huge GPS bug.
whenever you're indoor, GPS is reset to position 0;0, thus teleporting you in the Atlantic Ocean... and ruining every Driving app that was running at the moment.
Currently triggers in every long tunnel, 100% when indoor , randomly if your car windows are blocking GPS signals ....
I bought one , considering all the reviews (sponsored or not), but i had to sent it back.
Now back with my Z3C.
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thats very disaapointing considering all the positive reviews

GrrXDA said:
Current version (after last soft release) still has a very crappy light sensor and a huge GPS bug.
whenever you're indoor, GPS is reset to position 0;0, thus teleporting you in the Atlantic Ocean... and ruining every Driving app that was running at the moment.
Currently triggers in every long tunnel, 100% when indoor , randomly if your car windows are blocking GPS signals ....
I bought one , considering all the reviews (sponsored or not), but i had to sent it back.
Now back with my Z3C.
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I dare not say it but GPS is dead on for me on Google Maps, even indoors. Auto backlighting in low light conditions is too low, have my H8 set on manual brightness in the evening. GPS faillure might very well be a hardware faillure.
See attached pic, indoors.

GrrXDA said:
Current version (after last soft release) still has a very crappy light sensor and a huge GPS bug.
whenever you're indoor, GPS is reset to position 0;0, thus teleporting you in the Atlantic Ocean... and ruining every Driving app that was running at the moment.
Currently triggers in every long tunnel, 100% when indoor , randomly if your car windows are blocking GPS signals ....
I bought one , considering all the reviews (sponsored or not), but i had to sent it back.
Now back with my Z3C.
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You received the update, right?!

PalakMi said:
You received the update, right?!
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its more likely to be a hardware problem.

HTC U11+ unboxing

I made the leap and imported the HTC U11+ from Taiwan. I'm working on a full review and camera tests. For now, here's my unboxing video. If you have questions about the phone, please let me know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoOjbFj3vFY&t=10s

nickmgray said:
I made the leap and imported the HTC U11+ from Taiwan. I'm working on a full review and camera tests. For now, here's my unboxing video. If you have questions about the phone, please let me know.
&t=10s
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Can you share your RUU?

Hey mate!
Been watching your youtube videos and managed to get a U11+ for myself. it too isnt planned for release where I am in Australia.
Received mine yesterday. Mine is running 1.05.709.12
Taiwan stock, dual sim 6/128
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Hi Nick
As you have both devices is it worth the upgrade from the U11 to the Plus? Apart from the almost edge to edge display which brings it in line with most of the current flagships, the rest are pretty similar and it'll be even closer one the U11 gets Oreo.
But I do like HTC and the pricing is competitive and it's a really nice phone.

wilpang said:
Hi Nick
As you have both devices is it worth the upgrade from the U11 to the Plus? Apart from the almost edge to edge display which brings it in line with most of the current flagships, the rest are pretty similar and it'll be even closer one the U11 gets Oreo.
But I do like HTC and the pricing is competitive and it's a really nice phone.
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Hi Wil,
I also look forward to Nick's comments, but i thought I'd jump in and give you my 2 cents, seeing as I also have both the U11 and U11+ now.
At the end of the day, value is a subjective thing, and, if you already own a U11, it is probably not going to be considered great value to upgrade to the U11+. That being said, I did it anyway. Here are my thoughts on the comparo.
Pros:
The U11+'s screen and speaker combination is a dream, especially if you watch a lot of videos. The colours on the SLCD are lovely and punchy, whilst being natural. The speakers are great, even shareable in moderately noisy environments
The U11+'s shape is much easier to handle than the U11, has the rounded back but straighter sides and a flatter front makes for a firmer hold.
Front camera is better. just is.
Oreo - Although U11 rollout is also starting, so many of the features are available soon.
Cons:
Oreo - there is a new notification for apps running in background. thats irking me.
Lack of accessories so far.
Its only my second full day, so jury is still out on batter performance, but it is better than U11. question is how much better.

Yeah l agree it's definitely better overall but how much better and would it be an upgrade upwards or just a sideways upgrade.

sephstyler said:
Hi Wil,
I also look forward to Nick's comments, but i thought I'd jump in and give you my 2 cents, seeing as I also have both the U11 and U11+ now.
At the end of the day, value is a subjective thing, and, if you already own a U11, it is probably not going to be considered great value to upgrade to the U11+. That being said, I did it anyway. Here are my thoughts on the comparo.
Pros:
The U11+'s screen and speaker combination is a dream, especially if you watch a lot of videos. The colours on the SLCD are lovely and punchy, whilst being natural. The speakers are great, even shareable in moderately noisy environments
The U11+'s shape is much easier to handle than the U11, has the rounded back but straighter sides and a flatter front makes for a firmer hold.
Front camera is better. just is.
Oreo - Although U11 rollout is also starting, so many of the features are available soon.
Cons:
Oreo - there is a new notification for apps running in background. thats irking me.
Lack of accessories so far.
Its only my second full day, so jury is still out on batter performance, but it is better than U11. question is how much better.
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What do you think of the battery vs the U11 now it's been a bit longer? I've got the 2 XL and am loving the phone despite the issues others have had but the huge battery on this phone (and cheaper price) make this very tempting

wingsfortheirsmiles said:
What do you think of the battery vs the U11 now it's been a bit longer? I've got the 2 XL and am loving the phone despite the issues others have had but the huge battery on this phone (and cheaper price) make this very tempting
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Hey there,
So, for me, its not been an apples vs apples comparison, as my U11 was on LeeDroid, which had a lot of battery optimisations, plus enabled VoLTE on my network, which allowed the phone to stay on LTE rather than switch to 3G for calls, etc. So my U11 was "optimised" for a lack of a better expression.
Through long term monitoring on GSAM, my U11 would give 3.5 hours of SOT and 12.5 hours of standby on a full charge.
Using GSAM now, my + is lasting 4h45m SOT with 17h31m standby. So, significantly more, but I rekon there's more to gain when HTC updates the firmware with further optimisations or when Devs have good ROMS ready.

Good Thread and i am hoping to jump on HTC wagon again after touch pro and Mate HD (forgot the name) Been using Sammy after that note 2 and now S6. Question i have is it too big or hand feel ratio feels better. I know from S6 it would be feel big hopefully similar or smaller than S8+. Note 8 is too big and pricey for my liking.
Second and most importantly would be battery. I know its early days but i just want it to last me a day at least. I generally use for work and clash of clan games. Mostly indoors but at times i am travelling thats when i want it to hopefully last 1 full day. I would be interesting to know more about the battery tests.
TIA.

sephstyler said:
Hey there,
So, for me, its not been an apples vs apples comparison, as my U11 was on LeeDroid, which had a lot of battery optimisations, plus enabled VoLTE on my network, which allowed the phone to stay on LTE rather than switch to 3G for calls, etc. So my U11 was "optimised" for a lack of a better expression.
Through long term monitoring on GSAM, my U11 would give 3.5 hours of SOT and 12.5 hours of standby on a full charge.
Using GSAM now, my + is lasting 4h45m SOT with 17h31m standby. So, significantly more, but I rekon there's more to gain when HTC updates the firmware with further optimisations or when Devs have good ROMS ready.
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Cheers mate! I would say I'm a little disappointed but I'm guessing you leave everything on (Wifi, LTE, BT, etc) given that you only get 3.5hrs with the U11? Just reading around the subforum for that phone, it seems others can get pretty impressive battery life for a 3Ah battery.

When the phone is sleeping, can you double tap it to wake it without picking it up? That means without triggering the motion sensors. This worked wonderfully well when I had a pixel XL earlier this year and I would love to see it on the u11+ as I already pre-ordered it.

wingsfortheirsmiles said:
Cheers mate! I would say I'm a little disappointed but I'm guessing you leave everything on (Wifi, LTE, BT, etc) given that you only get 3.5hrs with the U11? Just reading around the subforum for that phone, it seems others can get pretty impressive battery life for a 3Ah battery.
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Yeah, depends on usage pattern, but mine on u11 is ~6hrs of SOT and ~1d 9h standby.
This is without games and such, but a 6-7 social media sync, 2 mail accounts sync.

sephstyler said:
Cons:
Oreo - there is a new notification for apps running in background. thats irking me.
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Have a look at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iboalali.sysnotifsnooze I think it might solve that issue for you.
Gordon

GordonTGopher said:
Have a look at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iboalali.sysnotifsnooze I think it might solve that issue for you.
Gordon
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Hey Gordon, thanks, i'll check it out, but after a day or so, the notification stopped. lol

Cinner said:
When the phone is sleeping, can you double tap it to wake it without picking it up? That means without triggering the motion sensors. This worked wonderfully well when I had a pixel XL earlier this year and I would love to see it on the u11+ as I already pre-ordered it.
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I got the phone today and I can confirm that you cannot do this You have to move the phone first.

Prot02018 said:
I got the phone today and I can confirm that you cannot do this You have to move the phone first.
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That's really too bad, especially without the fingerprint scanner on the front. Hopefully a custom kernel will add it in the future, although I don't expect there will be a lot of development for this device.

wingsfortheirsmiles said:
Cheers mate! I would say I'm a little disappointed but I'm guessing you leave everything on (Wifi, LTE, BT, etc) given that you only get 3.5hrs with the U11? Just reading around the subforum for that phone, it seems others can get pretty impressive battery life for a 3Ah battery.
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True that. Me with everything ON reach regularly 5h screen on at least

Cinner said:
That's really too bad, especially without the fingerprint scanner on the front. Hopefully a custom kernel will add it in the future, although I don't expect there will be a lot of development for this device.
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Double tap to wake works on htc devices w/o motion sensing from htc 10 times. The other person is wrong. It worked on my U11 too whilst I had it. I'm sure it's present.
You don't need any custom rom. And you have nothing to worry about.

Silver.Shadow said:
Double tap to wake works on htc devices w/o motion sensing from htc 10 times. The other person is wrong. It worked on my U11 too whilst I had it. I'm sure it's present.
You don't need any custom rom. And you have nothing to worry about.
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Your screenshot calls it a motion launch gesture and it tells you to pick up the phone first before you double tap to wake it. Doesn't leave much room for doubt does it? Hope you're right though ?

Cinner said:
Your screenshot calls it a motion launch gesture and it tells you to pick up the phone first before you double tap to wake it. Doesn't leave much room for doubt does it? Hope you're right though ?
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Like I said, I've used it. It works if the device is flat on any surface. Just need that option checked. I'd think the double tap is read as motion?
If you see other options in that setting, it's things like swipe down twice to launch camera. I'm pretty sure you don't need to lift the device to do that. So yeah.

how happy are you..

So, i got mine OP6 yesterday, damn it is a nice phone i love it.
But how happy are you with it. And what would you change to the hard-software..

Battery percent in circle.
Proximity sensor to activate ambient display.
Speaker sounds a bit tinny.
That's about it from me
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk

I just wish the vibration motor felt more like a Pixel 2XL or iPhone 8/X

Coming from an OPO this is light years in advance. I don't think I could ever go back to a phone with less screen retail and no gestures. Having said that, it is far from perfect:
The glass back is so slippy it makes the phone useless without a case.
The battery life is better than my old phone, but not as good as I was hoping.
There is no thermal paste or cooling on the SOC.
The rounded corners on the screen are annoying and pointless.
Not sure if I should swap my Midnight Black to mitigate #1, but given it is a glass back I'm not sure that is going to help really. On the flip side I do appreciate the improved signal a glass back brings.

lordjan1986 said:
So, i got mine OP6 yesterday, damn it is a nice phone i love it.
But how happy are you with it. And what would you change to the hard-software..
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Got mine yesterday as well. My previous phone was a note 8. I'm very pleased with the OP6 so far. At this point I wouldn't change anything except it is quite slippery. I feel like I'm holding a baby.

I definitely hope to see an improved camera performance in a future update. My OP6 produces smudgy images that seem way too processed. A Google camera port on my old OP3 produces much better quality photos, so there's that.
Otherwise the rounded corners of the screen are a little reminiscent of an old-school TV and I struggle to ignore them.
Performance is beastly AF.

1. An option in settings to have always on display
2. Speaker volume and tone to be improved. When I had the 5t on Oreo beta the speaker was really good for a single speaker, this one just sounds a bit shallow. Enabling the earpiece speaker would be a plus if they could implement it.
3. Bluetooth drop outs. I'm finding it losses connection to devices temporarily (not due to range)
4. Option to have Google now as the left hand page rather than shelf.
5. Was thinking of a 5th for ages however in the main really happy with it and all the above could be fixed in an update. Let's just hope they don't wait too long and forget about us 6 users because they are working on the 6T!

In love the round corners, they are so cool looking, I got the mirror black and I love the way it looks. I think the phone is fantastic.

Pros of oneplus6
1. Snappy Processor for the Price - Snapdragon 845 is one of the fastest processors
2. A Tall and Notch-ed Display - The AMOLED display of the OnePlus 6 produces rich, bright and crisp colors.
3. Taste of Android P - model for which Android P Beta would be available.
4. Headphone jack!

Vinegar Joe said:
Coming from an OPO this is light years in advance. I don't think I could ever go back to a phone with less screen retail and no gestures. Having said that, it is far from perfect:
The glass back is so slippy it makes the phone useless without a case.
The battery life is better than my old phone, but not as good as I was hoping.
There is no thermal paste or cooling on the SOC.
The rounded corners on the screen are annoying and pointless.
Not sure if I should swap my Midnight Black to mitigate #1, but given it is a glass back I'm not sure that is going to help really. On the flip side I do appreciate the improved signal a glass back brings.
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where did u find out it had no thermal paste or cooling?

masri1987 said:
where did u find out it had no thermal paste or cooling?
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Watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z47gXtbXjw

Yikes. Throttling will be bad.
montecarlo5 said:
Watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z47gXtbXjw
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montecarlo5 said:
Watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z47gXtbXjw
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Yup, that's the one.
Incidentally throttling is not bad right now (I did some quick and dirty tests in another thread), but might be an issue down the line. AFAIK the 5/5T had the same problem. Anyone know how they've held up in the last 6/12 months?

masri1987 said:
where did u find out it had no thermal paste or cooling?
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Probably jerryrigeverything tear down videos.
Am I happy? Yes and no. Didn't care for pixel. Miss my note 8. Nexus 6p is still my favorite device but battery issues kept me away. Personally think Huawei handles battery and speed(with bells and whistles) just as good. But emui.
Op6 is a get what you pay for. I think they can do better at the 530+ price. I probably take a lost but I'm going g to hold out until the next update. If things are not imporved I'll sell it for something else. Probably lose a $1 per day of ownership.
Battery life and maybe speed(not as dramatic as people make it vs others) is where the phone beats everything else. Nice to have unlocked bootloader/root. Feels like Nexus days.

intruda119 said:
Probably jerryrigeverything tear down videos.
Am I happy? Yes and no. Didn't care for pixel. Miss my note 8. Nexus 6p is still my favorite device but battery issues kept me away. Personally think Huawei handles battery and speed(with bells and whistles) just as good. But emui.
Op6 is a get what you pay for. I think they can do better at the 530+ price. I probably take a lost but I'm going g to hold out until the next update. If things are not imporved I'll sell it for something else. Probably lose a $1 per day of ownership.
Battery life and maybe speed(not as dramatic as people make it vs others) is where the phone beats everything else. Nice to have unlocked bootloader/root. Feels like Nexus days.
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i came from Note 8, for me the Note 8 was good but it was a lot of hype too. the camera was amazing but the reason i got the Op6 and sold my Note 8 was for dev purposes... the note 8 dev community is small

Just got mine today and love it so far. Buttery smooth and lightning quick. It has so much customization built in that I don't feel the need to put a custom rom on it. At least for a while.

masri1987 said:
i came from Note 8, for me the Note 8 was good but it was a lot of hype too. the camera was amazing but the reason i got the Op6 and sold my Note 8 was for dev purposes... the note 8 dev community is small
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I was one of the crazy people who actually found bixby useful. Without Tasker and being able to voice command mobile hotspot was great. Battery life was on par. Device community and not very many options out here for old school Nexus type devices.
Not a bad phone just thought by the 6+ device, some of the hardware compromises would finally be on par.

Vinegar Joe said:
Yup, that's the one.
Incidentally throttling is not bad right now (I did some quick and dirty tests in another thread), but might be an issue down the line. AFAIK the 5/5T had the same problem. Anyone know how they've held up in the last 6/12 months?
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I used a OP5 for the last 11 months and to be honest, I didn't noticed some kind of throttling. Maybe there was, but I never noticed fps drops while playing with a Nintendo DS/PSP emulator (which seems like a good indicator).

Looking at the teardown videos they DO have thermal pads (the black slightly shiny things) so it isn't quite as 'bare' as suggested. Probably not as good as thermal paste, but I'm not exactly up on mobile phone cooling. Maybe someone better than me can provide some insight? I wonder how common this is in other phones.

My problems with it are the too small battery (resulting in **** battery life compared to other current phones), the mediocre camera, and no vibration that can be felt/heard whatsoever.
Rest (whatever is left) is ok.
I should probably return it and get full refund and spend money on something more proper.

Bored of my S9 plus! What phone do I switch too OP6 or P20 Pro

Hey guys, new to all this so go easy on me. Over the past few years I have become a bit of a tech fanatic. I like to get a phone, use for a few months then sell on while it retains value. I'm March I got the S9 Plus coming from a Note 8 and from that coming from an S8 Plus. I love Samsung through heaven and earth but have become slightly bored with their design and UI. I have been strongly considering the Huawei P20 Pro and the OnePlus 6. Can I have your thoughts please? I have read/watch so many reviews on the P20 Pro and it's seems amazing the lag is the main issue as I do now want it. I don't game, I use a phone for emails, text, whatsapp, web browsing, Twitter, Instagram etc. ?

Get both.

nabbed said:
Get both.
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I dont need or want both lol. It's just the lag on the Huawei phones, it's really putting me off at the moment, the old Kirin970 processor too, coming from the Exynos 9810 will feel like a downgrade but then the camera on the P20 will feel like an upgrade. So difficult. The Huawei seems perfect, but the lag and stuttering is a huge dealbreaker for me but I want to know if its as bad as people make our as we all know EMUI isnt the most polished skin.

BBCLukeBetts said:
I dont need or want both lol. It's just the lag on the Huawei phones, it's really putting me off at the moment, the old Kirin970 processor too, coming from the Exynos 9810 will feel like a downgrade but then the camera on the P20 will feel like an upgrade. So difficult. The Huawei seems perfect, but the lag and stuttering is a huge dealbreaker for me but I want to know if its as bad as people make our as we all know EMUI isnt the most polished skin.
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Then why are you posting in OP6 forums about how you don't like Huawei?
Makes no sense.

nabbed said:
Then why are you posting in OP6 forums about how you don't like Huawei?
Makes no sense.
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It makes a lot of sense. I'm trying to get people's views on bith phones. I'm not saying I don't like Huawei either I have spoken seen a lot of people pull up the lag and unresponsiveness of the Huawei, yet I have just spoken to someone who is not a gamer who has had a P20 for 2 months now, uses his phone for what I use my phone for and has had no lag or stuttering what so ever. So im thinking will I even notice a difference coming from the Exynos 9810 to the Kirin970?
There are major cons woth both phones I'm just trying to get peace of mind with both so I can decide with a balanced view.
Thanks
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BBCLukeBetts said:
It makes a lot of sense. I'm trying to get people's views on bith phones. I'm not saying I don't like Huawei either I have spoken seen a lot of people pull up the lag and unresponsiveness of the Huawei, yet I have just spoken to someone who is not a gamer who has had a P20 for 2 months now, uses his phone for what I use my phone for and has had no lag or stuttering what so ever. So im thinking will I even notice a difference coming from the Exynos 9810 to the Kirin970?
There are major cons woth both phones I'm just trying to get peace of mind with both so I can decide with a balanced view.
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Brother, S9 is a superior phone to both. I understand that you are bored, and that you have disposable income to switch phones at will. Which is why my original suggestion stands - get both. And stop being a little ... nice person.
EDIT: As a side note, there's nothing prettier than the Silk White OP6. Consider that.

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Brother, S9 is a superior phone to both. I understand that you are bored, and that you have disposable income to switch phones at will. Which is why my original suggestion stands - get both. And stop being a little ... nice person.
EDIT: As a side note, there's nothing prettier than the Silk White OP6. Consider that.
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I dont really care if the S9+ is more superior. I want a change and I only want one. I don't have disposable income. I sell to then replace, while the S9+ still has value over £500. I do love the one plus 6. But I want my worries addressed.
Battery: Smaller than S9+ - OP has dash charge so is it really a problem.
Speakers: Dual Speakers in S9+ - I mainly use Beats headphones.
Camera: S9+ a better all rounder - OP releasing camera update to make it a lot lot better
IP rating: S9+ IP68 water and dust - OP doesnt but does it really matter. (Although I have seen a few people with issues with dust in the camera.
Now I love the OnePlus 6 held it, feels good, it's an amazing change from the curved designs on Samsung I need a break from them. Then when you use it, the speed is absolutely unbelievable!!
These are my worries I just want peace of mind.
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BBCLukeBetts said:
I dont really care if the S9+ is more superior. I want a change and I only want one. I don't have disposable income. I sell to then replace, while the S9+ still has value over £500. I do love the one plus 6. But I want my worries addressed.
Battery: Smaller than S9+ - OP has dash charge so is it really a problem.
Speakers: Dual Speakers in S9+ - I mainly use Beats headphones.
Camera: S9+ a better all rounder - OP releasing camera update to make it a lot lot better
IP rating: S9+ IP68 water and dust - OP doesnt but does it really matter. (Although I have seen a few people with issues with dust in the camera.
Now I love the OnePlus 6 held it, feels good, it's an amazing change from the curved designs on Samsung I need a break from them. Then when you use it, the speed is absolutely unbelievable!!
These are my worries I just want peace of mind.
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Battery life is really good. Less than 1% for 4 minutes of screen time with autobrightness on.
Screen off drain is inferior with my unit compared to Samsung phones, but I have a bad cellular signal (not with Samsung previously, new carrier with this phone) - therefore more power used by the radio, more drain. About 1% per 2 hours.
Speakers are weak. Not bad, but not great either. Piece of advice, get rid of overpriced junk that is Beats and get real audiophile headphones for the same price and 10 times better sound quality.
Camera is good, but not S9 good. Watch out though, so many reports of bad camera that I think it may be the weakest link in this phone - defective cameras are abound.
The phone is mostly water proof, according to JerryRigEverything YT channel, but it didn't pass the IP67 test, so it's vulnerable to submersions. Splashes, rain, occasional dunk should be just fine.

I think I will stick with the Huawei then purely because of the camera issues then! I love OnePlus, I love the brand and the ethic! I'm hoping the 6T will be a game changer!
Thanks for your time
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Did it fail the IP67 test or did they just not pay to have it certified.

I have an S9+ that I gave to someone else in my family as I did not like it. The camera is great but I take very few pictures. For me, I want a rootable device. I also want as close to pure Android as you can get. I had a P10 and sold it within a month. The Huawei OS is horrid. It's like they thought they were making an iPhone.
Sticking it out with my OP6. Clicks all the boxes I want in a phone.

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Did it fail the IP67 test or did they just not pay to have it certified.
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I have an S9+ that I gave to someone else in my family as I did not like it. The camera is great but I take very few pictures. For me, I want a rootable device. I also want as close to pure Android as you can get. I had a P10 and sold it within a month. The Huawei OS is horrid. It's like they thought they were making an iPhone.
Sticking it out with my OP6. Clicks all the boxes I want in a phone.
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I do love the OnePlus 6 but I take photos, not thousands but enough to merit wanting a decent camera! I love my S9+ but unfortunately my battery has got worse and worse since I got it in march, and like I said in my first post, since last year I have had the S8+ then the Note8 now the S9+ and it's been basically the same design, and im just so bored of it. Funny you mention the P10, when I got the S8+ last year I keep being pushed by Vodafone to get the P10 but I hated itamd wouldnt get it, the new P20 and the new EMUI is amazing and has changed so much since the P10!!
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Read this thread, it's all about choosing between OP6 & P20pro : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/help/p20-pro-to-op6-t3794073

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Hey guys, new to all this so go easy on me. Over the past few years I have become a bit of a tech fanatic. I like to get a phone, use for a few months then sell on while it retains value. I'm March I got the S9 Plus coming from a Note 8 and from that coming from an S8 Plus. I love Samsung through heaven and earth but have become slightly bored with their design and UI. I have been strongly considering the Huawei P20 Pro and the OnePlus 6. Can I have your thoughts please? I have read/watch so many reviews on the P20 Pro and it's seems amazing the lag is the main issue as I do now want it. I don't game, I use a phone for emails, text, whatsapp, web browsing, Twitter, Instagram etc. ?
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Neither. I know that "nearly stock" Android, with very few stutter is a very tempting thing but... You'll get a WAY worse screen (don't let anyone tell you the difference is minimal, it's bull****, the difference is huge), you'll get way worse speakers, you'll get a way worse camera, you'll lose the option to charge wireless, you fully lose the vibration motor (the one in the oneplus 6 is so damn awful, you literally won't believe it until you don't feel it, vibration mode is basically useless unless the phone is in your hand or on a surface like glass). The only advantage the OnePlus 6 has is the software. If you were coming from an older phone, I'd absolutely recommend you the OnePlus 6, it's a great phone. But coming from an S9+? You're giving up more than you realize and you're definitely going to regret it after some time.

I was so tempted for OP 6 but the camera is not up to the mark I am using Note 8!

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Neither. I know that "nearly stock" Android, with very few stutter is a very tempting thing but... You'll get a WAY worse screen (don't let anyone tell you the difference is minimal, it's bull****, the difference is huge), you'll get way worse speakers, you'll get a way worse camera, you'll lose the option to charge wireless, you fully lose the vibration motor (the one in the oneplus 6 is so damn awful, you literally won't believe it until you don't feel it, vibration mode is basically useless unless the phone is in your hand or on a surface like glass). The only advantage the OnePlus 6 has is the software. If you were coming from an older phone, I'd absolutely recommend you the OnePlus 6, it's a great phone. But coming from an S9+? You're giving up more than you realize and you're definitely going to regret it after some time.
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Thanks for telling me about the OnePlus! What about the Huawei?? Also are their any other phones put there that you could recommend?
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Huawei P20 Pro looks good but I dunno about its software, though its looks good.
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Neither. I know that "nearly stock" Android, with very few stutter is a very tempting thing but... You'll get a WAY worse screen (don't let anyone tell you the difference is minimal, it's bull****, the difference is huge), you'll get way worse speakers, you'll get a way worse camera, you'll lose the option to charge wireless, you fully lose the vibration motor (the one in the oneplus 6 is so damn awful, you literally won't believe it until you don't feel it, vibration mode is basically useless unless the phone is in your hand or on a surface like glass). The only advantage the OnePlus 6 has is the software. If you were coming from an older phone, I'd absolutely recommend you the OnePlus 6, it's a great phone. But coming from an S9+? You're giving up more than you realize and you're definitely going to regret it after some time.
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Thanks for telling me about the OnePlus! What about the Huawei?? Also are their any other phones put there that you could recommend?
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That guy is FOS. Do I need to spell it out what that means?
"WAY worse screen"
Not even close. The screen is excellent. I've used Samsung flagship phones up to Note7, and I have had extensive experience with an S9. Aside from the resolution, the screen is nearly perfect. Beautiful colors, great brightness and in-sun visibility. Everything else - color temp, viewing angles, hues, color reproduction etc. are nearly perfect. Made by Samsung too.
"way worse camera"
Some truth to that. S9 camera is with no match. Even P20 Pro in my opinion is worse. But OP6 camera is not WAY WORSE. That's ridiculous. This man is inebriated with his own flatulence.
" you'll lose the option to charge wireless"
True.
" you fully lose the vibration motor (the one in the oneplus 6 is so damn awful, you literally won't believe it until you don't feel it"
That's just false. No more comments needed. The man is plain wrong.
"but coming from an S9+? You're giving up more than you realize and you're definitely going to regret it after some time."
I loved the S9. But OP6 is also good. Very fast.

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That guy is FOS. Do I need to spell it out what that means?
"WAY worse screen"
Not even close. The screen is excellent. I've used Samsung flagship phones up to Note7, and I have had extensive experience with an S9. Aside from the resolution, the screen is nearly perfect. Beautiful colors, great brightness and in-sun visibility. Everything else - color temp, viewing angles, hues, color reproduction etc. are nearly perfect. Made by Samsung too.
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Lol. The screen on the S9+ is nowhere near the quality of the OnePlus 6's. Did you read me say that the OnePlus 6's is bad or has any issues with viewing angles and so on? No, you did not. My point was that no matter how good the OnePlus 6's screen is, the S9's ****s on it. It's not just resolution, it's everything, even brightness.
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That guy is FOS. Do I need to spell it out what that means?
" you fully lose the vibration motor (the one in the oneplus 6 is so damn awful, you literally won't believe it until you don't feel it"
That's just false. No more comments needed. The man is plain wrong.
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The vibration motor on the OnePlus 6 is crap. Absolutely garbage. Coming from a Galaxy s8, the difference is night and day. The motor on the OnePlus 6 is tiny, weak, soft and it even makes an annoying sound when typing with haptic feedback on. Just google it and see how many more people are complaining about the issue. (The 3T and other OnePlus phones also suffered from this issue).
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That guy is FOS. Do I need to spell it out what that means?
"but coming from an S9+? You're giving up more than you realize and you're definitely going to regret it after some time."
I loved the S9. But OP6 is also good. Very fast.
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That was exactly my point. The OnePlus 6 has better, faster software. That's all. In everything else, the S9+ is superior.
The guy asked for an opinion, if you wanna be a blind fanboy, that's fine. But when trying to help someone decide where they'll spend 500$+, either give them fair advice or just stay quiet.
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"way worse camera"
Some truth to that. S9 camera is with no match. Even P20 Pro in my opinion is worse. But OP6 camera is not WAY WORSE. That's ridiculous. This man is inebriated with his own flatulence.
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Have you ever even looked at raw files produced by both? Have you even done any serious photography with both? I'm not even gonna comment. If you believe the OnePlus 6's camera is anywhere nearly as good as the S9's, you're just delusional.

To all the OP6 owners, need answers

I have a OnePlus 3T 6/64, using it for like 11 moths or so.
Want to upgrade to a OnesPlus 6 Lava Red 8+128 that I've seen used for like 300€.
Wanna ask, things like camera(I know it's great, not best but decent), performance(amazing), screen(compared to my 3T maybe not a lot of difference?), battery(also, I get with my 3T 50% brigthness 3.10h SOT, I've used a MI5 and 2.45h so moderate-hi usage), speaker(3t is meh, 6 maybe a lil better?)... Just wanna see what people says, or compared to a 5/5T but wanna know if I'm going to notice a difference, wanna use the 6 for at least a complete year.
Battery is a priority, I need at least 4.30h SoT with a daytime visible brightness. Can't get a 6T or 7, just have 300€ and I want AMOLED and a 835 at least, I've seen Xiaomi alternatives(Mi8) but I'd rather OP, any suggestion?I will be happy with a OP6? Thanks!

I'm a oneplus user since OP3, & i actually use OP6 (8/128) and I will definitely recommend you to get it.
Compared to the OP5T, I feel more comfortable using this larger screen, I get more SOT @50% brightness (~6,5H music, social networking, mailing & some PUBG), a little bit better camera quality (even if the OP5T is already good at video recording & image stabilisation), and the performances are just great.
If u get one at the 300€ price including the genuine dash charger, then it's a great deal

Definitely get it. You will not be disappointed. Some people get 8 hours s.o.t. but that's usually not very realistic-at least not without major kernel modifications. Most of the reason is, though the screen is excellent, it's large and that's where most of your power is lost. I don't think you'll get 10 hours. But in almost every other respect, you'll be floored with it!

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I'm a oneplus user since OP3, & i actually use OP6 (8/128) and I will definitely recommend you to get it.
Compared to the OP5T, I feel more comfortable using this larger screen, I get more SOT @50% brightness (~6,5H music, social networking, mailing & some PUBG), a little bit better camera quality (even if the OP5T is already good at video recording & image stabilisation), and the performances are just great.
If u get one at the 300€ price including the genuine dash charger, then it's a great deal
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I've used a One and my 3T, was worried about all that things, If I can get at least 4:30h sot, I'll be happy and yes, everything included, dash charger, box... Thanks!

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Definitely get it. You will not be disappointed. Some people get 8 hours s.o.t. but that's usually not very realistic-at least not without major kernel modifications. Most of the reason is, though the screen is excellent, it's large and that's where most of your power is lost. I don't think you'll get 10 hours. But in almost every other respect, you'll be floored with it!
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So excited to get it, I will play PUBG, Asphalt 9 and everything I want, I will get a decent battery to get the full day, a great camera with almost(or) pixel 3 quality...I'm loving all the reviews I'm seeing

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So excited to get it, I will play PUBG, Asphalt 9 and everything I want, I will get a decent battery to get the full day, a great camera with almost(or) pixel 3 quality...I'm loving all the reviews I'm seeing
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Remember to use a GCam port to really get good pictures !

yeah this will be my first OnePlus device.. I wanted to get one before but was on Verizon before and knew it wasn't compatible.. but now that we are with TMobile i'm gonna give it a shot! I know the camera reviews seem to show its very decent (especially at the price point) and I'm pleased with the sample pictures i've seen on youtube... I have seen some of the reviews about using GCAM instead of the stock camera.. i'm just concerned about having 2 camera apps on the phone and if apps could be confused with it..
I do know the Speaker is pretty weak.. so i'm curious to hear how "bad" it really is.. hopefully its still acceptable to use..
I can't wait to see how well it runs FORTNITE... My pixels has some good moments.. but others its a DOG... so with GAMING MODE and larger screen and 8gig ram.. i'm hoping its a beast!

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yeah this will be my first OnePlus device.. I wanted to get one before but was on Verizon before and knew it wasn't compatible.. but now that we are with TMobile i'm gonna give it a shot! I know the camera reviews seem to show its very decent (especially at the price point) and I'm pleased with the sample pictures i've seen on youtube... I have seen some of the reviews about using GCAM instead of the stock camera.. i'm just concerned about having 2 camera apps on the phone and if apps could be confused with it..
I do know the Speaker is pretty weak.. so i'm curious to hear how "bad" it really is.. hopefully its still acceptable to use..
I can't wait to see how well it runs FORTNITE... My pixels has some good moments.. but others its a DOG... so with GAMING MODE and larger screen and 8gig ram.. i'm hoping its a beast!
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Fortnite 30fps max stable, maybe even 60?
Spealer meh but i don't think it's worse than 3t, will test it this week (there are some oneplus 6 at fnac) and camera use gcam and you'll have almost exact pixel 3 experience. Just intall it and use it, forget the other one unless you need manual mode or better video stabilization

If youre not picky with photo, go for it. Like said already above, dont forget install Gcam...

Regarding the speaker. If you want to root anyways you can also install the dual speaker mod and viper4android for speaker optimization. Got it installed several months and it improves the sound a lot. Often only by playing sound through the earspeaker while I accidentally cover the main speaker.
For me camera quality is poor, I'm coming from a Nokia 8 which has a way better camera quality... Well it seems like you can't have it all at this price point.

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Fortnite 30fps max stable, maybe even 60?
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I left it on the settings it did when I first installed the game on the OP6.. which was 30fps / epic graphics / 75% 3d graphics.. and it looks so amazing and runs so smoothe and fast compared to my Pixel.. (20fps / low graphics / 50% 3d graphics)
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Spealer meh but i don't think it's worse than 3t, will test it this week (there are some oneplus 6 at fnac)
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yeah I listened to the speaker a few times and i'm not that displeased with it.. It is VERY easy to cover an severely mute.. but since I use a case.. I just dremel out the inside of the connector between the hole for the speaker and the hole for the USB.. so the sound can pass through there if I block the hole for the speaker.. makes it work much better.
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and camera use gcam and you'll have almost exact pixel 3 experience. Just intall it and use it, forget the other one unless you need manual mode or better video stabilization
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yeah i played around with it some last night.. trying to use portrait mode.. and it was OK but definitely didn't WOW me like some of the pictures i'd get with my OG PIXEL..
So if you install the GCAM, will it replace the stock camera or just have 2 cameras in the app list? can you set the GCAM as primary so even when using the double tap power or lockscreen swipe to camera, it would open GCAM?
Thank you!

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I left it on the settings it did when I first installed the game on the OP6.. which was 30fps / epic graphics / 75% 3d graphics.. and it looks so amazing and runs so smoothe and fast compared to my Pixel.. (20fps / low graphics / 50% 3d graphics)
yeah I listened to the speaker a few times and i'm not that displeased with it.. It is VERY easy to cover an severely mute.. but since I use a case.. I just dremel out the inside of the connector between the hole for the speaker and the hole for the USB.. so the sound can pass through there if I block the hole for the speaker.. makes it work much better.
yeah i played around with it some last night.. trying to use portrait mode.. and it was OK but definitely didn't WOW me like some of the pictures i'd get with my OG PIXEL..
So if you install the GCAM, will it replace the stock camera or just have 2 cameras in the app list? can you set the GCAM as primary so even when using the double tap power or lockscreen swipe to camera, it would open GCAM?
Thank you!
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2 separate apps, your camera and gcam, it's better at hdr+ enhanced and night sight, you will notice a lot of difference compared to stock. Also don't forget to tweak the camera settings

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what do you mean?

Dude OnePlus 7 is almost here, just go brand new. You don't know how the previous owner treated their device.
Burn-in on oled?
Needs new battery?
Possible water damage?
Non-OEM quality replacement parts or repairs?
Don't do it man, just go new

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what do you mean?
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See configs, I recommend Aranova gcam

dgunn said:
Dude OnePlus 7 is almost here, just go brand new. You don't know how the previous owner treated their device.
Burn-in on oled?
Needs new battery?
Possible water damage?
Non-OEM quality replacement parts or repairs?
Don't do it man, just go new
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I only have 300$, I'm a 16 years old kid, so I can't get more unless I find a job, going to search for a moth or so and If I don't get a job, will probably buy a used op6 meeting with the guy who sells It and test it

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I only have 300$, I'm a 16 years old kid, so I can't get more unless I find a job, going to search for a moth or so and If I don't get a job, will probably buy a used op6 meeting with the guy who sells It and test it
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The OP6 is probably the last decent phone OnePlus will ever make. They have gone the direction of all big phone makers now, bloatware, removal of headphone jacks, caving into whatever the carriers want them to do. I would get one while you can. I picked mine up used from Swappa and am glad I did.

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The OP6 is probably the last decent phone OnePlus will ever make. They have gone the direction of all big phone makers now, bloatware, removal of headphone jacks, caving into whatever the carriers want them to do. I would get one while you can. I picked mine up used from Swappa and am glad I did.
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i'm in the same boat.. yeah the OnePlus 6T does have a little better camera and smaller notch.. but no headphone jack was an issue for me.. and now with the 7 going with a pop up camera.. i'd be nervous about motor failure...
so I grabbed a OnePlus 6 and so glad I did

One Plus 6 all the way. I got one of the last ones available online from their web site...black with 8 gigs ram and 256 gigs storage. I saw a tear down on YouTube and it appears to be one of the easiest phones to replace the battery if needed. So I plan on keeping mine for a long, long time!