Hello!
Relatively new to the Android society, I have been through bunch of different rooms rooted and otherwise, but since the majority of them are not based on the original Touchwiz, they lack the edge features and most importantly the screen wraps all the way down across the edge of the device.
The edge is secondary part of the main display and has other properties, a notable example is its unique response to any touches.
All in all it lacks the hold down feature and will always only register your touch once and will now allow you to longpress anywhere on the edge.
I am looking for a tool which moves the display or ideally the working area away from the edge part and limit it to the main screen. (to create the black bar on the egde)
Currently running Resurrection Remix 7.1.1, rooted on an international model sm-n915fy.
Thank you on beforehand!
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I'm kinda old fashioned but I still use an HTC Desire with the original ROM (and living and suffering with its issues) and couldn't move myself to flash it with a custom ROM, because they all seem not to fit my needs. It may sound weird, but here is my thinking about the Android UI development:
Back than, when I bought my Desire it was the best Device of its class out there. The Sense UI was way better than the native Android (which was really ugly) and very comfortable. Since then Android developed to Holo, Sense made several big and weird changes up to the latest one on the M8 and TouchWiz I never liked; and I still think the old Desire Sense UI is one of the best out there. The main reasons for that seem a bit ridiculous but are a major usability issue for me:
Unlock with a slide to the bottom
While receiving a call, slide to the bottom to accept, slide to the top to decline
Two separate lock screens, one as keyboard lock and one as security lock (with password or pattern) that only activates after a set amount of time (not like the Samsung devices where you have to enter your pattern EVERY time you turned off your display)
Why on new devices it is common that I have to slide to the side to unlock? Sliding to the bottom is the most comfortable movement you can do with your thumb without any danger to let your phone slip and hit the ground. So why it is so absolutely uncommon? And why on native Android you can't move the unlock option to the bottom, where is plenty of space and would also give you the opportunity for a fifth quick access app? In my point of view it would increase usability a lot.
While receiving a call on new phones you have to press a virtual button, but why? With old phones you could feel the right button to accept or decline a call, but with touchscreens you have to look at it first and then touch precisely. But there is no need for that. Even the pressing and sliding the green or red circles is based on hitting the screen on a special area, which is kinda unpleasant for me. With the old Sense you only have to roughly slide up or down from around the middle of the screen, so declining a call without taking the phone out of your pocket works like a charm.
At last the lock screen. I always had to decide between the normal keyboard lock and a pattern (password was never an option) but never get it to work with having the pros of both. I understand that some may find it stupid to have two lock screens, but for me they have different functions and so they work very well together in my workflow. On Cyanogenmod I found an option that seems to give me what I want, but it never worked like my Desire.
Yeah, even when I still use my Desire I have used other phones too (in parallel for work) and I really always missed the listed options of the old Sense UI and hated the strange design decisions made since then. But am I the only one who thinks about that in that particular way or is it me who is too picky? Is there no one else out there thinking the Desire Sense UI was outstanding at that time and still is today? Or is there an app for that I haven't found yet?
Just my two cents.
I am the only who experience this tendency? That the one ha UI function makes the navigation buttons at the bottom are to the left?
Often when u put it in the table often the navigation button are very often to the left. A bug? To activate one hand UI you need to use a quite rapid motion.. But obviously one hand UI activate when you put it on the table. I hope this problem is solved In the latest firmware (which is not accessible through official channels for eu devices)
If you shake your hand to the left, the navigation bar automatically adjusts to the left. Same thing goes if u shake it to the right.
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If you shake your hand to the left, the navigation bar automatically adjusts to the left. Same thing goes if u shake it to the right.
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I know how the gestures is working to activate one hand GUI, what I am saying you is that it is not working..
In fact.. it is quite unsensitive so when you want to to activate one hand GUI and make the geasture the the left or right it is kind of hard you really need to do a quite rapid and distinct motion. What I am saying is that the one hand GUI is being activated WITHOUT any gesture at all.. when I am putting it on my table.. most likely it does not lie down on the table 100% straight, so what I am saying here this is simply a bug.. the one hand GUI should be activated by a distinct hand gesture not when it is laying on the desk and you pick up the phone. This makes the whole one hand GUI function very frustrating... it would had been a less problem if it had a tendency to move to the right most of the times since 99% of the time you want it to be on the right.. I wish it was possible to disable it moving it to the left at all..since I am not left handed..
Also.. I wonder..is there any 3rd party app where you can get similar one hand function to Note 4 ? where the whole screen is getting minimized to a small window ? since the Mate7 have a bigger screen then note 4.. the need is even bigger for more One hand functions... to handle a 6 inch device... I hope this will improved with Lollipop as well.. it is clear that android is not optimized for bigger devices. One simple example is google play... to push the "my apps" button you cannot reach it with your right thumb.... I think this will be some of the things that they will look at in versions after lollipop..which is to have more menus at the bottom instead of the top..where people will reach it easier...even on big devices. .. if android and apps in general was more optimized for bigger devices.. the drawbacks of big devices which mainly is you can't reach your thumb over the whole device would be a much less problem.. if the most important parts of interfaces in OS and apps is in the "Thumb zone" where most people reach with one hand use even on 6 inch devices. Nexus 6 is 6 inches..so because of that..I think android after lollipop will be a lot more optimized for bigger screens in general.. also the averge screen size is getting bigger.. 5.5 inches is now really common.. but I think 6 inches.. is where it will stop...
Sure if the mate 7 hade 100% body to screen ratio then sure..it could had bigger screen but I would not like a phone with bigger outer measurements then this.. the limits is here for sure.. going over this limit is just stupid..
I understand what you mean, although i have not really tried this one hand function of the mate 7, because i find the solution half-baked in mate 7. In note series (3 & 4 I'm sure), the whole screen is minimized. The current lenovo vibe z2 pro also does the same thing as the note's, which for me is the perfect implementation of the one-hand operation function. Although this function is not a deal breaker for me, cause i still find the mate 7 attractive because of its many other uses.
Hi All,
I've just migrated from an iPhone (i've been iPhone user all the while) to a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. One thing that I miss about the iPhone is that notification screen especially for whatsapp whereby it does not lump all together into one thread and it gives you the option to reply from the lock screen.
I am wondering if there are such ability for Android (I'm quite sure that there is). If so , could you kindly point me to the right direction
I don't need the edge functionality of the phone and would just like to use that portion for whatever is on my screen instead. I experimented with Nova launcher and it removed the edge panel...but only part of it. The edge panel is gone but I still see a thin black bar all the way at the right side of the screen remaining. I want to completely use the entire screen of the phone. So is there a way to remove the black bar and maximize my screen real estate? I feel like maybe a custom rom would do that but I don't wanna go that far unless I know it achieves that.
I kinda had the same problem as you . The edge wasn't very important to me . Flashing a custom rom did help me in achieving that . The first rom I tried was RR by micky I it comes with a omni switch so ya can turn on/off the edge functionality . But if ya prefer to be on MM I would recommend noble rom it comes with an edge panel but is invisible for most of the time ; . I personally use n915f with noble rom and Micky's kernel . Hope this helps
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I kinda had the same problem as you . The edge wasn't very important to me . Flashing a custom rom did help me in achieving that . The first rom I tried was RR by micky I it comes with a omni switch so ya can turn on/off the edge functionality . But if ya prefer to be on MM I would recommend noble rom it comes with an edge panel but is invisible for most of the time ; . I personally use n915f with noble rom and Micky's kernel . Hope this helps
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Do you get the ENTIRE screen or is there a remaining thin black bar? Nova Launcher got rid of the edge panel and gave me more screen but I'm still left with a thin black bar on the side so I'm not utilizing my entire screen as I wanted. Can you show me a picture of your phone with either of those roms? I don't want to go through the headache of installing it only to find out its like Nova in the end result of a thin black bar leftover. And will those roms work on an at&t Note edge? Thanks for your response
Due to some unknown reasons am unable to upload a screenshot "network error". Could ya please check noble rom thread ( OP : Albe96) under the development section . He has uploaded some screenshots which will give you a better idea . The title says it works for only Fy&G versions but with the right kernel it worked fine for me on 915f . Am not sure if it works on at&t version of edge . Maybe you can post a question under the rom thread sure somebody will help you
Update : I don't have any black bars.
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Due to some unknown reasons am unable to upload a screenshot "network error". Could ya please check noble rom thread ( OP : Albe96) under the development section . He has uploaded some screenshots which will give you a better idea . The title says it works for only Fy&G versions but with the right kernel it worked fine for me on 915f . Am not sure if it works on at&t version of edge . Maybe you can post a question under the rom thread sure somebody will help you
Update : I don't have any black bars.
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I meant pictures like an actual pic, not screenshot because I wanted to see if the black bar was visible. But its okay, I appreciate the info you provided. I'll take a look at that now but might not risk it because it doesn't sound like its compatible with the at&t Note Edge.
it would be nice to use the entire screen to display everything
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it would be nice to use the entire screen to display everything
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Do you know what the screen size is without the edge panel? Like say I'm using a web browser or some other app and the edge panel is gone now, how big is the display with the edge panel out? 5.4, 5.5 or 5.6 inches? And how big is everything total with the edge panel included?
dont think its possible ,its two separated screens ?
No it's definitely one screen.
I'm in the same situation. Couldn't get the Noble ROM working on my F device unfortunately. I uninstalled the Cocktailbar service to get rid of the edge panel (sped up the device quite a bit BTW). Nova wallpaper covers the entire screen now but the display of the icons gets trimmed off when scrolling.
A Note compatible application will show under an app that gets clipped short and if you window an application, you can drag it to cover the curved portion of the screen so on a system level, it is possible to utilise the entire screen.
There must be a configuration setting somewhere that defines the application rendering area. As a relative Android newbie, does anyone know where such a setting may be found?
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No it's definitely one screen.
I'm in the same situation. Couldn't get the Noble ROM working on my F device unfortunately. I uninstalled the Cocktailbar service to get rid of the edge panel (sped up the device quite a bit BTW). Nova wallpaper covers the entire screen now but the display of the icons gets trimmed off when scrolling.
A Note compatible application will show under an app that gets clipped short and if you window an application, you can drag it to cover the curved portion of the screen so on a system level, it is possible to utilise the entire screen.
There must be a configuration setting somewhere that defines the application rendering area. As a relative Android newbie, does anyone know where such a setting may be found?
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Thanks for your response to my post. Even after all this time I'm still trying to get this phone to utilize the entire screen. I'm not sure how you uninstalled Cocktailbar service because I didn't get an option to do so. I have Nova launcher which did get rid of the edge panel but there's still a thin black line on the side of the phone. When the edge panel exists, it utilizes the entire screen but when I remove it by using Nova launcher, I lose the edge panel but I still can't maximize my screen usage because of the thin black bar left on the side. This is so frustrating.
if you dial the service mode , you can test both screen separately , main panel and edge panel , not sure if it one screen at all , thats why note edge is the only curve screen that works ?
I used Uninstall which you can get from the play store. Requires root access, really speeds up the phone when you remove it.
I found a hacky way to get the screen to extend nearly all the way to the edge by dropping the DPI of android system process to 50 and then overriding the DPI of everything else to the normal 640. System notifications are stupidly small and unusable though as well as any edge apps like the camera, see attached. Best option is to bite the bullet and get a Note 4 ROM working I think.
Weird I find the edge screen much more useful without the specialist software. Fast scrolling with a full screen is lovely on the edge bit.
Download and flash a AOSP Rom or Note 4 Rom and then I'd recommend Total Launcher
I'm using MRU Widget as my homescreens softkey row.
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Yeah, eventually my tinkering made my phone go bang so I had to reflash. Bit of a pain but can't recommend it high enough. I went for the ROM below, a Note 7 adaption and it's awesome. Have to tinker a bit to get finger prints working but it's straight forward enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-norma-n7-port-910-v2-to-n915f-t3458799/page1
Hi, I flashed a Note 4 ROM on my Note Edge yesterday, only to find the entire screen worked as a whole! But an issue showed up: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/camera-app-interfaces-malposition-issue-t3960314
EdgeBlock prevents accidental touches along screen edges when you are holding your phone. This is especially useful on the latest phones with curved screen edges and very thin bezels.
I had been having a terrible time watching movies on my OnePlus 7 Pro, my fingers kept accidentally touching the edge of the screen, which caused problems like the video skipping ahead or bring up the cast dialog. another big problem was with the Camera, I kept accidentally changing focus and even closing the app. So I looked on the Play Store and found a few apps that do this, but none of them were satisfactory, so I made my own app.
The big difference between EdgeBlock and the others is you can specify different settings for portrait, landscape and fullscreen mode. Another important improvement in EdgeBlock is that it properly supports gesture modes and notches. The blocked area will always be at the screen edge.
Another huge advantage with EdgeBlock is that it does not require Accessibility Services or any other intrusive permissions. The only permission required is Draw/Display over other apps. As with all my apps, it is ad-free and does not harvest your data.
I have been using this since last summer, but only recently had the time to polish it an release on the Play Store. During that time I've optimized the app for all use cases.
Per app mode - Not needed!
I know one of the first questions I will get is about per app mode. I did create a per-app mode originally, but found it is not needed! Once you enable EdgeBlock there is no need to change the settings for different apps, it just works. You also have a lot of control using the settings for portrait, landscape and fullscreen. Some users my disable EdgeBlock in portrait and landscape, but enable EdgeBlock in fullscreen mode.
The biggest problem with a per-app mode is that it requires either the App Usage permission or an Accessibility Service. The app usage permission works, but must constantly poll for the foreground app. This is an unnecessary waste of resources and battery life. The Accessibility method would work better, but requires an Accessibility service. I do not think an Accessibility service is warranted, since the app functions perfectly without it and I want to keep the app as light as possible.
Download EdgeBlock on the Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.edgeblock
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@flar2
Would it be possible to use this method to block access to the top edge on the lockscreen to prevent access to the quick settings?
Thanks
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@flar2
Would it be possible to use this method to block access to the top edge on the lockscreen to prevent access to the quick settings?
Thanks
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It's not allowed, the system actions always take precedence
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It's not allowed, the system actions always take precedence
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Ok thanks for the reply anyway
mitchst2 said:
block access to the top edge on the lockscreen to prevent access to the quick settings?
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not sure if you are aware, but there is an LSPosed module that does this, called 'NoQSInLockScreen'. works great for me
This is exactly what I'm looking for but it doesn't really work. If you are touching the blocked area while in app, you are unable to touch anything else within the same app. For example if you open Chrome and then place your finger on the edge blocker and with your other hand try to scroll up and down it won't let you scroll because you're touching something else on the screen. As soon as you stop touching the edge blocker you're able to scroll again.
Unless Im doing something wrong or not understanding how this app is intended to be used.
So if I'm playing a game and any part of either one of my hands is touching along the edge other movements within the game get confused because I'm touching the edge as well as trying to make a different move within the game itself.
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This is exactly what I'm looking for but it doesn't really work. If you are touching the blocked area while in app, you are unable to touch anything else within the same app. For example if you open Chrome and then place your finger on the edge blocker and with your other hand try to scroll up and down it won't let you scroll because you're touching something else on the screen. As soon as you stop touching the edge blocker you're able to scroll again.
Unless Im doing something wrong or not understanding how this app is intended to be used.
So if I'm playing a game and any part of either one of my hands is touching along the edge other movements within the game get confused because I'm touching the edge as well as trying to make a different move within the game itself.
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After a little further testing three of the edges work exactly how I need them to work. But one edge does not. The edge at the top of the phone regardless of orientation does not allow you to touch it and touch something else within the same app. So this is The edge that would have the front facing camera. Basically the edge that would be the top of your phone.