Should I purchase a DZ09 smartwatch or..? - General Questions and Answers

Hello. I'm looking for a budget friendly smartwatch. The only functions I'm looking for is to be able to read notifications (and if available whatsapp messages) as well as being able to play music on my phone. With that being said, I looked at the DZ09 as a nice candidate, but I was overwhelmed with all the different variants that could happen when buying one (some not being able to read applications, different versions, fake ones, etc etc) so I'd like to know if it'd be a good idea to buy this watch knowing the functions I'm looking for. I don't really want to try flashing it. Is there a smartwatch in a similar price range that could manage to accomplish those tasks? Will even the worst case DZ09 be able to do those things too? Thanks in advance!

I would recommend an original pebble as they are now going for as little as 18$ for refirbs. The dz09 is a fun watch to play with but and looks cool but the pebble Is just built better.
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psiphi said:
I would recommend an original pebble as they are now going for as little as 18$ for refirbs. The dz09 is a fun watch to play with but and looks cool but the pebble Is just built better.
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Thanks a lot for the answer. It sure does look a bit more interesting. Sadly where I live a Pebble is not a choice; "sales" isn't a common word here. It literally costs 4 times as a DZ09. What I have as other choices are: "W8", "U8", "M26" (which honestly doesn't look too appealing), and "GT08" (which I guess is just another name for a previous mention), and I think not much else, really.
Edit: Also APLUS GV18 and U10.

The dz09 is okay as a smartwatch and great for the price. There is a 99.99% chance what you would get will be a clone. The clones work except for internet apps [because the clone only have a fraction of the ram of the originals.]
It's rare to find a better rom than what is built in so don't recommend flashing.
You will need to charge the watch daily which is normal for most smart watches.
You need to manually turn on the pedometer but it works.
Lastly, works best with an Android phone if you want full notifications and such. Apple has very limited support for anything not built by Apple.
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psiphi said:
The dz09 is okay as a smartwatch and great for the price. There is a 99.99% chance what you would get will be a clone. The clones work except for internet apps [because the clone only have a fraction of the ram of the originals.]
It's rare to find a better rom than what is built in so don't recommend flashing.
You will need to charge the watch daily which is normal for most smart watches.
You need to manually turn on the pedometer but it works.
Lastly, works best with an Android phone if you want full notifications and such. Apple has very limited support for anything not built by Apple.
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Hello! Thanks for the answer, it's really informative for me. I've had Sony Smartwatch 2, but I ended up selling it because I think it was too expensive for what I used it for. Even if it's a clone, will I be able to see my phone notifications and change the songs/volume on my mobile device?

It will receive notifications after you install the notifications app on the phone. Music is more complex. A feature of the dz09 is it has both a speaker and a mic built in and all sound comes out of the watch instead of the phone by default. You can control music on your phone but it plays out of you watch. So do your phone calls. I THINK you can simply turn off the watch's bluetooth speaker and mic on the phone side and have everything else work as expected only through the phone but have not tested this.
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Thanks a lot guys! I think I may aim for the GT08 since it's apparently also water resistant, and is pretty much the same thing.
Can there be fakes of the GT08 too?

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Is buying the new gear 2 worth it?

Tell me what do you like about it, what you would like to have been different. And the best features. It suckss completely that tizen is running on gear 2 rather than android really disappointed and the software itself is making me not want to upgrade. Love android. Tizen has no apps. No development. It's a baby without its training wheels. They should have released tizen on the gear neo not gear 2. I don't want to shed $300 just for a couple new things. The watch itself is nice but I'm more interested under the hood and knowing it's running tizen. Makes it feel like like a 2L car I want a V8 powerhouse.
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All I can say is give it time. The G2 is my first watch and it's fine with me. It makes me not pickup my phone as much and that in it of itself is a win. I would like to have a keyboard to respond better than templates.
What kind of apps are people wanting on these things....I screen is so small I wonder what would be exciting to use.
You can speak to it to reply what you want to say rather than use the templates.
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What kind of apps are people wanting on these things....I screen is so small I wonder what would be exciting to use.
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This!
I have no desire to browse the web, play games, or watch movies on the Gear. That's what my Note 3 is for!!! I managed to get a keyboard on the Galaxy Gear, but it took more time to get my message correct on the Galaxy Gear than if I just pulled out my phone and used it. Plus the Tablet Talk app that enabled that functionality killed the battery (+ all the screen-on time). I currently have about 30 text templates to use for responding to text messages. If any of those don't fit the bill, then fine, I'll reach for my phone when I feel like responding.
The only app I can think that would be nice is some type of navigation integration with Maps. And even then I would only expect it to show me my next turn... not the entire map/route.
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This!
I have no desire to browse the web, play games, or watch movies on the Gear. That's what my Note 3 is for!!! I managed to get a keyboard on the Galaxy Gear, but it took more time to get my message correct on the Galaxy Gear than if I just pulled out my phone and used it. Plus the Tablet Talk app that enabled that functionality killed the battery (+ all the screen-on time). I currently have about 30 text templates to use for responding to text messages. If any of those don't fit the bill, then fine, I'll reach for my phone when I feel like responding.
The only app I can think that would be nice is some type of navigation integration with Maps. And even then I would only expect it to show me my next turn... not the entire map/route.
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Yeah...some map integration would be nice, but out of the box it does all I expect it to. I think once the Fleksy keyboard is released it'll be perfect. I love being able to get home, sit my phone down, walk freely and still be connected w/out it. I dont have but about 10 templates, but as I run into different situations I'll add more.
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Tell me what do you like about it, what you would like to have been different. And the best features. It suckss completely that tizen is running on gear 2 rather than android really disappointed and the software itself is making me not want to upgrade. Love android. Tizen has no apps. No development. It's a baby without its training wheels. They should have released tizen on the gear neo not gear 2. I don't want to shed $300 just for a couple new things. The watch itself is nice but I'm more interested under the hood and knowing it's running tizen. Makes it feel like like a 2L car I want a V8 powerhouse.
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All this Tizen hate going around is just going to keep developers from even bothering to develop. Why don't you just take the Gear 2 for a test drive. If it's not worth it, then return it. But just stop with all the hate mongering, it's not helping anyone.
And for the record, even Google turned its back on full Android for smartwatches. They came up with Android Wear, and from what I've seen (video) Android Wear is a minimalist OS geared toward simple notifications. TizenExperts.com clearly mentions (and seems to encourage) flashing custom ROMs for the Gear 2.

buy this or a android wear device?

Hello,
I'm looking to buy a smartwatch and i'm choosing between a sony smartwatch 2 or a android wear device;
If i buy a android wear powered device i will only be able to use it for notifications cause the voice commands will probably not support my language (dutch)
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
is this smartwatch 2 good enough for reading facebook messages, skipping between music tracks, adjusting volume? (and maybe toggling wifi, nfc, etc off on my phone from the watch) and ofcourse checking the time (considering the fact that it only has a 180mhz cpu) ?
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
thanks,
noahvt
It can do all that pretty well. The toggles i think is a paid app though.
I can see the SW2 receiving a decent price drop on Android Wear release.
If it's a cheap smartwatch you want that does the job well then the SW2 will be just that at that time.
If you want the cream of the crop & don't mind paying a little more than the current SW2 price then wait for Android Wear & get one of those.
Either way, I'd say Android Wear will be the deciding factor on further investment or the death of the smartwatch.
@noahvt no support for dutch, where did you get that?
google now responds pretty well to spoken dutch, so i assume google wear will as well
concerning the SW2, yes it can do all of that, most of it for free, might need a paid app or 2, but most of them cost a dollar or less
noahvt said:
Hello,
I'm looking to buy a smartwatch and i'm choosing between a sony smartwatch 2 or a android wear device;
If i buy a android wear powered device i will only be able to use it for notifications cause the voice commands will probably not support my language (dutch)
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
is this smartwatch 2 good enough for reading facebook messages, skipping between music tracks, adjusting volume? (and maybe toggling wifi, nfc, etc off on my phone from the watch) and ofcourse checking the time (considering the fact that it only has a 180mhz cpu) ?
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
thanks,
noahvt
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The SW2 does all of that and you don't even need a Sony phone. Android wear will maybe do half that stuff at best. It's just Google now with rich notifications.
I'm a bit surprised of al this wiping and swiping I see in the different video's on the Net. Looks like one needs to scroll a lot to get to the information you want. I find the icon style on the SW2 easier and it seems faster.
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google is going to add an option for non English language devices so that you can give a command in English and the speak your native a language
example
send message to x
ik zal niet op tijd zijn voor de vergadering omdat mijn trein vertraging heeft
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suljo94 said:
google is going to add an option for non English language devices so that you can give a command in English and the speak your native a language
example
send message to x
ik zal niet op tijd zijn voor de vergadering omdat mijn trein vertraging heeft
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that's nice cause it would be a bit stupid to suddently start sending English texts to people i know xD so I think i'm going to go for a android wear device possible the moto 360 if it gets released in the next 2 weeks else i'll go for the lg one
I believe it is a little bit stupid to talk to your watch. It looks kind of ridiculous, i would never do it publicly.
apos1982 said:
I believe it is a little bit stupid to talk to your watch. It looks kind of ridiculous, i would never do it publicly.
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agreed !!!!
noahvt said:
that's nice cause it would be a bit stupid to suddently start sending English texts to people i know xD so I think i'm going to go for a android wear device possible the moto 360 if it gets released in the next 2 weeks else i'll go for the lg one
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I personnally went for sw because the apps don't need speech to work but because you asked I gave you information and not an opinion
Any word from Sony how they plan to maintain the SW2 when Wear is released? Will there be continued development for this platform?
I must say I have the sw2 since December and I'm very happy with it. It can do all you asked for and obviously shows the hour ?
Moreover the battery lasts 4 or 5 days depending on your use, it's water resistant, you can run with it using endomondo, runtastic and other apps like these...
I use it with a Samsung galaxy s4, and the results are really good! I wouldn't change it right now for an android wear one. Maybe next Android wear generation if they are as good as they seem to be and my sw2 is dead.
I would say, if you can get it for less than 120€ go for it
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@Tuborg68: i tried communicating with Sony about the SW2, through their forum, multiple tweets, but am not getting any replies
it's anyone's guess when the next update (if any) will be released
that's the advantage of google wear, skins aren't allowed, which means manufacturers can easily update their watch when google releases a new version
and it'll attract a lot more developers
apos1982 said:
I believe it is a little bit stupid to talk to your watch. It looks kind of ridiculous, i would never do it publicly.
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15 years ago, when Bluetooth headsets become more affordable, using one seems so strange that some friends of me start calling me the nickname Cyborg everytime we meet. Today with the popularization of the technology nothing is strange and even less stupid.
If someone like to have the latest technology couldn't care about what others might think or say, like in other areas of life.
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apos1982 said:
I believe it is a little bit stupid to talk to your watch. It looks kind of ridiculous, i would never do it publicly.
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noahvt said:
Hello,
I'm looking to buy a smartwatch and i'm choosing between a sony smartwatch 2 or a android wear device;
If i buy a android wear powered device i will only be able to use it for notifications cause the voice commands will probably not support my language (dutch)
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
is this smartwatch 2 good enough for reading facebook messages, skipping between music tracks, adjusting volume? (and maybe toggling wifi, nfc, etc off on my phone from the watch) and ofcourse checking the time (considering the fact that it only has a 180mhz cpu) ?
and if I buy a sony smartwatch 2 i'll be able to use it fully since i have a sony smartphone
thanks,
noahvt
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I have a SW2 and have the same doubt when when Android Wear were introduced last week. But SW2 is more easy to work with notifications because you can chose the extension apps that you want to install to get notifications, you can also get notifications from message app or Hangouts app if you choose too, or you can also answer calls on your phone or BT because you have a Sony handset, i'm planning to by a Sony handset just to use this feature.
And when the Android Wear SW become diverse from different brands and with more languages i will think in bought one.
Can anyone reccomend a place/store to buy this smartwatch, I checked at bestbuy and it costs 200 dollars over there while in my country (Belgium) it's just 130 euros is there any shop in America where this watch has a similar price?
Get it used on ebay. I see them selling for $70-$80. One advantage of having Sony's Smartwatch is that Sony is a household name, so people will see this watch at Best buy and just get it as a gift for people, and the giftee ends up not being really interested in smartwatches, so he/she sells. Their loss our gain.
im going to cape cod tomorrow and i looked at bestbuy and it said it was available in lots of stores there but then i pressed on add to card and the website was like: nah just kidding we cant ship it anymore to that store. and that was for all the stores there ;/
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Would you like Gear S2 to be a Android wear device?

This is a first time I use Tizen wearable and I'm kinda disappointed with poor appstore. I'd like to reflash my gear s2 with Android Wear (if/when avaliable).
How about you?
Nope. If i wanted Android Wear I would have bought it. If Im gonna lose support for the bezel, nfc payments, tizen battery life, etc.... What's the point of owning an S2? Should have just bought a Moto 360.
No. Android wear has a better app selection for sure, but Tizen handles most of the core functionality a lot better. OK so android wear links well with fart apps on my phone to amuse my kid, but it gives me less powerful options for handling email and text notifications...
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I see your POV, maybe Tizen is better choice for particularly this device in terms of optimization, but on the other hand it's a huge lack of Android Wear and its market.
The reasons you've marked is correct and makes sense, but can be easily fixed by Samsung if they will.
I'm sure we will see rotaty bezel devices on Android Wear in nearest future and Google have to optimize their wearable OS in that direction anyway.
The android wear ui is a mess as well. Samsung did a fantastic job with the gear s2. Hopefully some guys at Google use the s2 and do some serious thinking about android wear. Samsung did a lot of things better. Like almost everything having to do with notifications and how I can respond to them, the widgets, the consistent ui, the bezel.
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Keep the Tizen
Samsung needs to continue with their Tizen OS for Gear series.
They are doing many things right now. Personally I don't see many advantages of Wear over Tizen on Gear.
They don't even need many more apps if they can get some of the major ones well supported.
If they can open up a bit and better support more apps creation and Google Now voice support, I don't see why they need to use Android Wear for Gear series. They can also improve S-Voice and not be dependent on Google Now voice support as well, which would be even better.
I would never get an Android Wear device. I do not want to tie myself to Google that much. One goal of mine is to have as little Google in my life as possible: I am down to Android (with the most minimal gapps that will allow the phone to operate) because the other alternatives are worse and an email address that I use for web related commerce. As far as Smart Watches go, I have been using them since I got a WIMM (Mine actually still works which is more than I can say for my Kickstarter edition Pebble) and the S2 is by far the best watch I have had for what I want: notifications without having to look at my phone, something to tell me the TOD, and a countdown timer. I know I am a curmudgeon but there you are.
Fred
kornelius1982 said:
I'm sure we will see rotaty bezel devices on Android Wear in nearest future and Google have to optimize their wearable OS in that direction anyway.
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I'm not so sure the rotating bezel will come to other watches anytime soon. I really hope it does (really is a great input method) but Samsung has it patented from what I understand. Guess we'll see.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-patents-bezel-spinning-smartwatch-input
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I'm not so sure the rotating bezel will come to other watches anytime soon. I really hope it does (really is a great input method) but Samsung has it patented from what I understand. Guess we'll see.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-patents-bezel-spinning-smartwatch-input
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Lol! Sammy pulled an apple. Patent does not automatically mean exclusive. It just means other OEM's will have to pay to add it to their devices. Might be worth it.
The watch faces with android wear are loads better, such a simple thing to be limited on with tizen..love the os though
I would love to have something as functional as Google now on my watch. If s-voice was half as functional then I would be quite a happy camper. But I agree that all the basic functionality is working quite nicely. Love not having to bring my phone around to make quick runs to the store or lunch etc. Still get my hangout, whatsapp, email text calls etc and I can reply to them right on my watch
Definitely not, I've had a android wear watch for the past year and their was no way in hell I would buy another one.
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My issue with Android wear is that sometimes I wanted to go back and look at my sms history and I couldn't. Once you dismiss a notification it is dismissed and you can look at it again ...
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My issue with Android wear is that sometimes I wanted to go back and look at my sms history and I couldn't. Once you dismiss a notification it is dismissed and you can look at it again ...
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Sounds like the problem we have with apps like hangouts and whatsapp. We can reply but not get any history. But we can get text and email history :good:
Lancerz said:
Definitely not, I've had a android wear watch for the past year and their was no way in hell I would buy another one.
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Ditto
The problem of tizen for me is the really limited app store ... The bezel is amazing , but i would be able to use it to surfing on web ( for exemple on opera mini ...) or zoom in a photo .... And i cannot do anything of that ... There is a giant potential in this watch , but userfull is less than a china watch like the no.1 d5...
One part of my decision which watch to choose was, that I dislike Android Wear because its way to googly in there (if you know what I mean ;D). I spent much hours of keeping Google out as much as possible out of my phone without loosing the Play Store but on the watch basic apps like messages, mails, calendar, health, calc, alarm,... are more than enough. I also stick with one of the stock watch faces. Tizen is a new way to think and do and I like that way. So up with Tizen! Also Android had to start in a small way.
Maybe I'm missing something, but:
No Hangouts support
No sleep tracking
No connection to MyFitnessPal
Very limited watch face selection
I'm really disappointed in what I thought would be basic functionality of my Gear S2 and I could seriously use some Wear support.
The battery life is really better than Android wear. The core function is good.
But I really love the google now, wish samsung or some one can make google now run on the gear s2.
I also want my gear can run android wear app
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The battery life is really better than Android wear. The core function is good.
But I really love the google now, wish samsung or some one can make google now run on the gear s2.
I also want my gear can run android wear app
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Yes, I would like to Have Google now, shazam and spotify (view the playlist, not only change song and sound)... I'm waiting for that!
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Android Wear vs Tizen

I'm planning to buy either a Huawei Watch or a Samsung Gear S2 Classic soon, and the one piece of information I seem to be unable to find is a decent list of what apps are available for each?
Based on watching youtube videos I really prefer the interface on the S2, seems far more intuitive, but I don't want to find myself missing apps that I would find useful...
Anyone got one and find anything missing or know where I can find a list - google is failing me! Having come from Windows Phone to Android recently I dont want to back myself into an app hole again
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2/599771-list-apps-work-gear-s2-please-add-here.html
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2/599771-list-apps-work-gear-s2-please-add-here.html
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So that list is really handy, thanks, but does seem to be 6months old...
Also, it doesnt help me by comparing to what Android Wear has - I havent used either, so I don't know what i'm missing out on if you know what i mean...
e.g. can i do turn by turn directions on wrist with google maps on either device? Can i get Waze running on either device? That article mentions e-mails and messaging with Samsung apps on their phones, what about on my Z5? Do i need to find a third party in that case?
I've updated that Gear s2 list on and off for the last six months, so while it's not comprehensive, it's up to date as far as it goes. I don't have a google wear watch to compare, but unlike Samsung, google let's you browse android wear apps on the web: https://play.google.com/store/apps/category/ANDROID_WEAR
It's generally agreed that android wear has way more apps than Tizen (and that apple has even more apps than Wear.) There's not a lot of agreement about how important that fact is. Some smartwatch users stick mostly to notifications, which are good for things like getting messages and for quick, simple replies; saves you from digging your phone out of your pocket all the time. Others care more about specific apps. The general feeling seems to be that the Gear S2 has maybe the best hardware and interface (and many like its looks), but that apps for the Gear S2 are a weak link. So, for example, the Gear S2 has a couple of options for turn-by-turn directions, one that comes with the watch called Here maps, and another 3rd party app called Gear Navigator; both are a little funky in my experience. Over on Android Wear, I'm guessing you'll have many more options to try from. On the other hand, the only circumstance in which I've found watch-based turn by turn directions useful is on a bicycle; in a car, the tiny screen just doesn't match up to having a full-sized smartphone screen on your dash. (I'll have to let someone else with experience let you know about what works and what doesn't with a Z5.)
Thanks for that. I had an MS band before and basically used it for notifications and telling the time!
I guess I'm worried that there will be some app I realise I want and can't get on Tizen , which knowing how that felt on WP is a concern...
But as you say, Gear S2 classic is the best looking smart watch out there (imho) for the price (huawei is nearly £100 more) so might be worth the shot since the interface appeals much more...
Hopefully someone with one and a Z5(or anything but a Samsung) can tune in and tell me how crippling it is to not be on Samsung's infrastructure
I've just sold my Huawei Watch and am currently using a s2 classic, my thoughts....
never installed any apps on my Huawei barring watch faces and an app to ajdust screen on time, all I needed and I guess wanted was the stock apps.
Gear s2 is IMO a better watch and the interface is so intuitive, of it could swap S voice for Google then I'd be even happier , so far the s2 does all I need and I love the extra run time I get compared to android wear.
I also have a gear S running biktors wear port so I still have option to use android wear whenever I choose.
BTW I got my s2 classic on eBay for £110 so this is based on my thoughts and this price point.
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I've just sold my Huawei Watch and am currently using a s2 classic, my thoughts....
never installed any apps on my Huawei barring watch faces and an app to ajdust screen on time, all I needed and I guess wanted was the stock apps.
Gear s2 is IMO a better watch and the interface is so intuitive, of it could swap S voice for Google then I'd be even happier , so far the s2 does all I need and I love the extra run time I get compared to android wear.
I also have a gear S running biktors wear port so I still have option to use android wear whenever I choose.
BTW I got my s2 classic on eBay for £110 so this is based on my thoughts and this price point.
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Thank you for the insight. Are you running with a galaxy phone or something else?
s7 edge
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Honestly I don't think either are worth their retail price, be patient and grab a mint 2nd hand one and let someone else take the hit.
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It should be no problem getting the S2 to link to a Z5, I am running on a Nexus 6 with a CM-based custom ROM with no problems. Apparently, you can do more with an S2 and a Samsung phone but I am not missing anything I want.
I try to keep Google out of as much of my life as possible so the idea that Tizen is not integrated into the Google infra-structure is a plus for me. I know I am in the minority but you couldn't pay me to use Android Wear (or Apple for that matter).
Fred
Well, despite leaning towards the Gear I just got a deal on Prime Day for the Huawei for under £200 so have sumped for that. Figure if I don't like it I can probably break even on selling on anyway
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vaderag said:
I'm planning to buy either a Huawei Watch or a Samsung Gear S2 Classic soon, and the one piece of information I seem to be unable to find is a decent list of what apps are available for each?
Based on watching youtube videos I really prefer the interface on the S2, seems far more intuitive, but I don't want to find myself missing apps that I would find useful...
Anyone got one and find anything missing or know where I can find a list - google is failing me! Having come from Windows Phone to Android recently I dont want to back myself into an app hole again
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I think Tizen will improve in future and will add some best stuffs like android. I read here (Tizen vs android difference - .mindxmaster.com/2017/01/samsung-tizen-vs-google-android-compaision.html) Tizen is using HTML 5 apps and has better flexibility than android. Android has lots of apps in Google play store, which is an advantage over Tizen.
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I think Tizen will improve in future and will add some best stuffs like android.
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I have the Gear1, Gear2, GearS2 and use Tizen for about 3 years. I think I can count on the finger on ONE hand the new apps for Tizen since 3 years, so.......

Willing to Pay for android wear port

Cut dry plain & simple.
Im offering anywhere between 300-$500 for someone to port android wear to the Gear S2 Classic and have it fully function.
Im tired of Tizen and if i gotta dish out some extra cash to get better functionality from my watch then i will. This is no joke. you can PM me, or just leave comments below. I need android wear and so does the community. :good:
Why you bought smartwatches with Tizen, if you want Android Wear? Sorry, I don't get it.
Obvious question: Why not buy a Android Wear watch with your money?
Less obvious question: Why do you have a payment range?
pRo_lama said:
Why you bought smartwatches with Tizen, if you want Android Wear? Sorry, I don't get it.
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i bought it because it was my first Samsung watch with tizen so i had no pre-experience with tizen and i wanted to give it a try. I like tizen, but there's limited functionality so i like android wear more, the watch has more than enough horse power to run android wear.
its like asking why do ppl buy touchwiz enabled phones just to use AOSP roms. people want what they want.
GodzillaMonster said:
Obvious question: Why not buy a Android Wear watch with your money?
Less obvious question: Why do you have a payment range?
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well 1. because i wanna keep my watch and have android wear on it. i love the s2's design over anyother watch and its more than capable spec wise to run android wear.
2. because i understand how hard devs work and i also understand the time and effort it takes to make something like this and to have it work 100%. its not easy for all of them. so i figure offering a nice wad of cash would peek someones interest and motivate them to do it. devs work hard and alot of times for free to give us amazing things. so for someone to do that for me and an entire community at that? id be willing to pay.
none24 said:
well 1. because i wanna keep my watch and have android wear on it. i love the s2's design over anyother watch and its more than capable spec wise to run android wear.
2. because i understand how hard devs work and i also understand the time and effort it takes to make something like this and to have it work 100%. its not easy for all of them. so i figure offering a nice wad of cash would peek someones interest and motivate them to do it. devs work hard and alot of times for free to give us amazing things. so for someone to do that for me and an entire community at that? id be willing to pay.
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Understood.
I also think the design is great - not sure what Android Wear function you'd want to have the navigation ring perform - is there a good equivalent in Android wear's UI?
I'm part of the community and don't really want Android wear on my S2 - so perhaps 'entire community' is an assumption or projection.
Your sentiment for remuneration is admirable - but I was curious about the range ($300-$500), not the cash itself. Under what criteria would you donate $300 as opposed to $500? The reason I ask is that you are effectively saying "Spend 500 hours on something for me and I'll pay you for between 4 and 6 hours of that time, depending on... ? ".
none24 said:
Cut dry plain & simple.
Im offering anywhere between 300-$500 for someone to port android wear to the Gear S2 Classic and have it fully function.
Im tired of Tizen and if i gotta dish out some extra cash to get better functionality from my watch then i will. This is no joke. you can PM me, or just leave comments below. I need android wear and so does the community. :good:
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I got 50 on it thinking about sending biktor my s2 when I get my s3 if he's willing I'll pm him
What im saying is id donate that much to have a fully functioning version not just at whatever i see appear. Of course i dont mean the whole community wants it but if you look in the android wear for gear s2 thread there's a lot of ppl there that really want it. and i think it sucks that ppl cant enjoy one or the other. and the navigation ring should have scrolling features. in android wear you can go left right up and down in the menus, and in tizen you can do the same in certain menus, so the ring should be able to scroll left and right or up and down in the menus the same way. im in no way saying Tizen sucks, but i also dont see anything wrong with wanting extra functionality when almost all of us root our phones and install custom roms. almost every other gear watch has android wear whether its official or a dev ported it, i just wanna see it for my watch and for the others who do want it, have them enjoy they're watch even more than they do. I personally can get more out of my watch with android wear, and i love it already i just want to love it more lol
I definitely understand the OP's statement. I love my Gear S2 for casual wear (back and forth to work) and I use my Huawei Watch to go out.
Tizen vs Android Wear is a huge difference. I love how large the Android Wear development community is compared to Tizen. I love the hardware on the Gear S2, mainly the built in ambient light sensor and rotating bezel.
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none24 said:
What im saying is id donate that much to have a fully functioning version not just at whatever i see appear. Of course i dont mean the whole community wants it but if you look in the android wear for gear s2 thread there's a lot of ppl there that really want it. and i think it sucks that ppl cant enjoy one or the other. and the navigation ring should have scrolling features. in android wear you can go left right up and down in the menus, and in tizen you can do the same in certain menus, so the ring should be able to scroll left and right or up and down in the menus the same way. im in no way saying Tizen sucks, but i also dont see anything wrong with wanting extra functionality when almost all of us root our phones and install custom roms. almost every other gear watch has android wear whether its official or a dev ported it, i just wanna see it for my watch and for the others who do want it, have them enjoy they're watch even more than they do. I personally can get more out of my watch with android wear, and i love it already i just want to love it more lol
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I understand the issue better now. Thanks.
Perhaps I am not a typical user - I use my watch to view notifications, set timers, track steps walked, check the weather and of course tell the time. This is a lot of functionality, it all works, and it pretty sufficient (for me) for a single device.
You say you 'need' Android Wear and will be able to get more out of your watch. What will the new OS specifically let you do? If it is install more apps, specifically which AW apps will you install?
GodzillaMonster said:
I understand the issue better now. Thanks.
Perhaps I am not a typical user - I use my watch to view notifications, set timers, track steps walked, check the weather and of course tell the time. This is a lot of functionality, it all works, and it pretty sufficient (for me) for a single device.
You say you 'need' Android Wear and will be able to get more out of your watch. What will the new OS specifically let you do? If it is install more apps, specifically which AW apps will you install?
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Install more apps and to answer the question of specifics, there are none in specific, people have apps in the android wear section that they personally love, where as tizen has a lack of. it also makes things like creating my own watch faces & installing them easier, and you can also make certain apps compatible with your watch that are not. and because my watch has 4G I can also install a web browser. thats just scratching some surfaces. side loading apps that devs make is another big thing. i buy android phones because i can customize them however i want to make my experience better and I feel like Tizen is too restricting and not too much supported with the lack of apps as well as not really being able to be modded. It works, but i would much rather have android on my watch where i could do more and make things easier and get more bang for my buck.
none24 said:
Install more apps and to answer the question of specifics, there are none in specific, people have apps in the android wear section that they personally love, where as tizen has a lack of. it also makes things like creating my own watch faces & installing them easier, and you can also make certain apps compatible with your watch that are not. and because my watch has 4G I can also install a web browser. thats just scratching some surfaces. side loading apps that devs make is another big thing. i buy android phones because i can customize them however i want to make my experience better and I feel like Tizen is too restricting and not too much supported with the lack of apps as well as not really being able to be modded. It works, but i would much rather have android on my watch where i could do more and make things easier and get more bang for my buck.
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Hmm.. I guess my understanding fails here.
It seems to be that you want the flexibility to do things that you can't really specify, but feel there is potential there and you would like to have that potential, regardless of how useful it is will be, and with no particular personal usage problem to solve.
Ah, first-world problems are fascinating
Best of luck with the search for purposeless flexibility!
Google Now! Google maps!
S voice is terrible
Lot of various reasons to want android wear
The S2 might be lacking in the app department, but I think Android Wear is just decent at best, and Google Cards are annoying as hell. A good portion of Wear apps don't work as flawless as people make it out to be. Grass is always greener.
What I would like is for Samsung to get serious and get Bank, Credit Card, Social Media, and other misc services to develop apps for Samsung Tizen watches, like Apple does.
Google now! To hell with the cards just want the voice capabilities. If this watch had that it would be perfect even without android wear
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LIVEFRMNYC said:
The S2 might be lacking in the app department, but I think Android Wear is just decent at best, and Google Cards are annoying as hell. A good portion of Wear apps don't work as flawless as people make it out to be. Grass is always greener.
What I would like is for Samsung to get serious and get Bank, Credit Card, Social Media, and other misc services to develop apps for Samsung Tizen watches, like Apple does.
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Do you OWN an Android wear watch? I own both the Gear S2 and Huawei Watch and the software on the Huawei Watch is way more intuitive and it has a ton more of 3rd party development.
FYI I wear my Gear S2 as my daily driver because I don't mind scratching/damaging it. It definitely works. My biggest gripe is lack of development and the placement of the back button vs the home button.
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OuncE718 said:
Do you OWN an Android wear watch? I own both the Gear S2 and Huawei Watch and the software on the Huawei Watch is way more intuitive and it has a ton more of 3rd party development.
FYI I wear my Gear S2 as my daily driver because I don't mind scratching/damaging it. It definitely works. My biggest gripe is lack of development and the placement of the back button vs the home button.
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Yes, I have owned the Gear Live and still have the 360(first smart watch I've owned). The last 2 years I've been wearing a Gear Neo 2 almost daily. And now the S2. Barely wore the Gear Live or 360. I just don't like the way Android Wear works for me. As much as I hate the "walled garden approach", I think it works great on a smartwatch.

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