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MHL Cable Discussion Thread

I wanted to make this a discussion thread for MHL cables. Currently, I have a Rocketfish MHL Cable and I love it. It doesn't have to be plugged into the wall via micro usb for it to work, unlike my ONN brand cable.
Other things I would like everyone to discuss, is quality and content. I love the quality of picture that mine displays, pretty sure it's 1080p, but how about other brands?
Now for content. Has anyone been successful in getting a MHL Cable to work with protected material? For example, when I hook mine up and try to watch NFL Mobile, it says "HDMI Is Not Supported". Is there a Rom that will work? Maybe an App to download? Xposed Framework module?
Also, speaking of nfl games, has anyone been successful in getting a Super Nintendo emulator working with hdmi and two controllers for playing multiplayer games?
Basically, let's discuss anything and everything MHL for HTC One M8!!!

I never put much thought into MHL, but came to this topic hoping to learn something. I found your cable on Amazon, and a lot of people are saying it doesn't work. Others are saying it does, but with an adapter. Together, the two add up to the cost of a Chromecast (which I have no experience with), so, what does an MHL cable do that Chromecast doesn't, aside from charging your phone, of course.

Dark Reality said:
I never put much thought into MHL, but came to this topic hoping to learn something.
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I'm hoping to learn something too. I'm going to buy a chrome cast tonight. I did some searching on the web and found out that I can use my HTC One M8 to screen mirror or mirrorcast to my TV. Someone out their has created an App that enables mirroring with any rooted device. Link is here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567717826
The guys over at Wal-Mart were nice enough to let my play and connect a chrome cast up to my phone. After downloading the file, I was able to watch NFL Mobile Network and Stream Twitch to a TV without any problems. There was a slight lag from what the phone showed, but nothing terrible as the sound and video synced up perfectly on the tv I was testing it out on.
I'm glad I got those two apps to stream to a TV. Not sure if an MHL Cable is going to offer anything more than a chrome cast. I'll see if I can tell a difference in quality or lag input. Thanks for bringing up the chrome cast. I know the HTC One M8 mirror option isn't supported yet, but with the phone being rooted and the extra app enabled, I can now stream anything and everything from my phone to my TV.

I haven't had any experience at all with MHL but do have a few thoughts about it vs Chromecast. I come from a long list of Motorola phones which all came with a dedicated HDMI port. If MHL is the same thing as HDMI, Chromecast is the way to go. At least for me. Since getting the ability to mirror on Chromecast, I really can't think of any advantage of using HDMI. There's a couple of really good advantages for using Chromecast though. Assuming MHL works the same way HDMI does, using it doesn't allow you to do anything with your device while mirroring on the TV. If you do something on the phone, the TV displays it. Also, the screen on your device has to remain on all the time. If you happen to use/stream Netflix or Youtube or some such thing, the screen never shuts off. However, if you use Chromecast for those types of things (or other apps that support it) you can still use the phone to play a game, browse the web or whatever it is you want to do. It has no effect on the movie you're playing. A big plus is you can also turn the screen off while streaming a movie or whatever. If you turn the screen off while streaming a 2 hour movie while using Chromecast, the battery drain is next to nothing compared to HDMI (again, assuming MHL is the same). If you mirror with Chromecast, then things are pretty much the same. The ability to turn the screen off or browse the web, etc.while streaming media is a huge advantage for Chromecast. At least, the way I use my phone, it is for me.
I apologize if my post is somewhat off topic but I figured since Chromecast came into the conversation and I do have experience with HDMI, I'd put my two cents worth in. Just my thoughts on the subject.

FWIW, this cable works on my phone.
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F8FGSOE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Best MHL for HTCOne M8
Hello , I just purchased an MHL cable for my phone and it only works intermittently. You mentioned the rocketfish. Is it reliable and doesn't cut out?
QUOTE=BygSii;55211766]I wanted to make this a discussion thread for MHL cables. Currently, I have a Rocketfish MHL Cable and I love it. It doesn't have to be plugged into the wall via micro usb for it to work, unlike my ONN brand cable.
Other things I would like everyone to discuss, is quality and content. I love the quality of picture that mine displays, pretty sure it's 1080p, but how about other brands?
Now for content. Has anyone been successful in getting a MHL Cable to work with protected material? For example, when I hook mine up and try to watch NFL Mobile, it says "HDMI Is Not Supported". Is there a Rom that will work? Maybe an App to download? Xposed Framework module?
Also, speaking of nfl games, has anyone been successful in getting a Super Nintendo emulator working with hdmi and two controllers for playing multiplayer games?
Basically, let's discuss anything and everything MHL for HTC One M8!!![/QUOTE]

I use one with my video head unit in my vehicle. I can mirror anything on my phone to it. I also have a MirrorLink device. All just different ways to skin a cat.

Any HDMI adapter for 6P?

hi,
Can 6P output video over USB-C?
Can generic USB C-type cable to HDMI be used?
Any other specific for 6P adapter can be used for HDMI wired output?
No, I don't need / want chromecast or miracast or etc wi-fi streaming.
thanks.

6p does not output hdmi
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heleos said:
6p does not output hdmi
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Why do they sell an hdmi adapter on the Google store then?
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rubi76 said:
Why do they sell an hdmi adapter on the Google store then?
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For the Pixel chromebook.

The 6P supports WiFi Direct, so I would suggest you go that route if at all possible. You may need to get a Miracast dongle for your flat panel display of projector.

CYoung234 said:
The 6P supports WiFi Direct, so I would suggest you go that route if at all possible. You may need to get a Miracast dongle for your flat panel display of projector.
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I need HDMI for my car Appradio HU
I thought that if 6P has type-C than it will have hdmi over it ... or hope it'll have it

mikek753 said:
I need HDMI for my car Appradio HU
I thought that if 6P has type-C than it will have hdmi over it ... or hope it'll have it
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During the reddit AMA they said it would not output hdmi. I also didn't think about this when ordering (i have an appradio hu as well)
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I think because it's still USB 2.0 that it can't output via HDMI. On another note don't waste your time with a miracast dongle. I'm pretty sure Google dropped support for that to exclusively use Chromecast. IMHO I feel it's leaps and bounds better than miracast anyway and you can still mirror your phone
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Smallsmx3 said:
I think because it's still USB 2.0 that it can't output via HDMI. On another note don't waste your time with a miracast dongle. I'm pretty sure Google dropped support for that to exclusively use Chromecast. IMHO I feel it's leaps and bounds better than miracast anyway and you can still mirror your phone
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HDMI works just fine over USB2, it's MHL or SlimPort that extracts video/audio from phone microUSB port. I don't know details how it works, but that I use for my S3 with MHL adapter to feed HDMI input.

The specs say specifically WiFi Direct, which is what Miracast uses as the transport, so Miracast should work. It works well with my Nexus 7, and the Nexus 4, 5 and 10 work as well. The Motorola Nexus 6 did not support WiFi Direct. If Chromecast supports mirroring to the USB port of a flat panel or projector to display the output of the phone or tablet screen for PowerPoint, AutoCAD, etc, then great. At least in the past, that was not the case.

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If Chromecast supports mirroring to the USB port of a flat panel or projector to display the output of the phone or tablet screen for PowerPoint, AutoCAD, etc, then great. At least in the past, that was not the case.
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thats... not how chromecast works. receiving device needs something (chromecast, roku, fire stick) that supports the chromecast protocol (cast method). from there, you can mirror (cast) your device screen or chrome tab.
as far as using a miracast dongle goes, i believe it's the same principle as chromecast. you won't get display through the USB port of your device. the dongle has to connect through some video throughput (usually HDMI). most (if not all) display-only devices do not have the capability to accept display through a USB port.

I don't understand why it doesn't support hdmi output. The s6 doesn't either. I don't want use chromecast because i use my unlimited data plan to stream movies. That's only thing i'm jelly of the iphone right now.

omf05 said:
I don't understand why it doesn't support hdmi output. The s6 doesn't either. I don't want use chromecast because i use my unlimited data plan to stream movies. That's only thing i'm jelly of the iphone right now.
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what does having UDP and steaming movies have to do with CC? are you saying you want to steam movies from your phone to your device? there are apps that do this, including ES File Manager. if you're traveling, you'll need two devices to set up the CC to use your hotspot, but short of that, CC should work great for your needs.

everyone has different use case
for me I need that phone output video over HDMI input of my car radio (Appradio)
and I'd like to have it over cable
in my case streaming over wi-fi comes with annoying latency - that's delay between car touchscreen action and video display as reaction
for me it isn't about movie streaming, but GPS and other car related apps

mikek753 said:
everyone has different use case
for me I need that phone output video over HDMI input of my car radio (Appradio)
and I'd like to have it over cable
in my case streaming over wi-fi comes with annoying latency - that's delay between car touchscreen action and video display as reaction
for me it isn't about movie streaming, but GPS and other car related apps
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This.
I thought I could live without root and ARUnchained so that Android Pay would work easily, and just get by with screen mirroring without touch interface on the head unit. Since Marshmallow, I haven't rooted and I've just been mirroring my N5 through SlimPort. I don't know that I can get by like this after being so used to full interface. And I imagine that the lag on Chromecast would be highly annoying. I'm quite disappointed there is no HDMI output on 6P, but I'm getting it anyway.

640k said:
thats... not how chromecast works. receiving device needs something (chromecast, roku, fire stick) that supports the chromecast protocol (cast method). from there, you can mirror (cast) your device screen or chrome tab.
as far as using a miracast dongle goes, i believe it's the same principle as chromecast. you won't get display through the USB port of your device. the dongle has to connect through some video throughput (usually HDMI). most (if not all) display-only devices do not have the capability to accept display through a USB port.
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Oops, you are right. I said USB, but meant HDMI. For my Actiontec dongle, you use the USB port to power it, but the HDMI port for the video / audio.

I'll be honest... I see almost no lag Casting my N5 screen of a 1080p Youtube clip to Chromecast 2.
It actually surprised the hell out of me that the quality of the cast was much better than choosing the same video through the YouTube app for Chromecast

Pig Vomit said:
This.
I thought I could live without root and ARUnchained so that Android Pay would work easily, and just get by with screen mirroring without touch interface on the head unit. Since Marshmallow, I haven't rooted and I've just been mirroring my N5 through SlimPort. I don't know that I can get by like this after being so used to full interface. And I imagine that the lag on Chromecast would be highly annoying. I'm quite disappointed there is no HDMI output on 6P, but I'm getting it anyway.
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Crap! What do we do now? I also use ARUnchained with my AppRadio 3. Just got my 6P today.

mikek753 said:
everyone has different use case
for me I need that phone output video over HDMI input of my car radio (Appradio)
and I'd like to have it over cable
in my case streaming over wi-fi comes with annoying latency - that's delay between car touchscreen action and video display as reaction
for me it isn't about movie streaming, but GPS and other car related apps
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I use the 6P via miracast to my AppRadio and the lag is non existant. The Nexus 5 struggled a bit but the 6P doesn't. This is using a Microsoft Wireless adapter.
Assuming you have supported the ARU developer, then join the Alpha group and he has a version that automates the connection process for Miracast / Chromecast. I have also posted in the ARUR thread how to get the screen to dim down to nothing.
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omf05 said:
I don't understand why it doesn't support hdmi output. The s6 doesn't either. I don't want use chromecast because i use my unlimited data plan to stream movies. That's only thing i'm jelly of the iphone right now.
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Mainly because TV technology has moved on and the technology to stream is in most of those now. Very few phones will support MHL or Slimport going forwards, if any at all within a year.

I would not have bought the Nexus 6P if I'd known that it did not support HDMI out. No doubt about it.

MHL to HDMI hub for media center

hello xda developers!
I recently found on ebay a micro-USB to USB OTG , HDMI , SD card and i want to use it with my galaxy tab s 8.4 as a media center (mainly kodi)
I have few questions that i hope you can answer me:
what type of cable do i need (compatible to which phone)?
does it charge the tablet or i have to use it with the hub while it is discharging?
Does the Ebay MHL to hdmi from china give out good fps , image quality and respond time (screencast i too slow)
doest it send sound through cable?
Thanks for the help

You need MHL 3rd generation compatible. This generation also charge tablet. With MHL cable you get higher FPS, image quality same as on tablet.

this is the kind of mhl cable that i use.
https://www.amazon.com/Aibocn-Unive...MHL-enabled/dp/B00V7UEE8Q/ref=dp_ob_title_wld

Dont get a MHL. Invest in a chrome cast its better and the quality is HD. Get the all cast app too as you can cast anything but the google home app lets you mirror your phone to tv.

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Dont get a MHL. Invest in a chrome cast its better and the quality is HD. Get the all cast app too as you can cast anything but the google home app lets you mirror your phone to tv.
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I can agree with this. I always used to have an MHL cable. And I also have one for this tablet. But with less and less tablets supporting MHL. Not many custom roms supporting MHL, it's way better to invest in a Chromecast. It's more furute proof. A chromecast is smaller (less cable). With a chromecast you can put your phone/tablet anywhere in the room, no restictions of cable lenghts. Etc.
That being said, I still need to get my own chromecast. It's going to be one of the first things I'm going to buy.

Google Pixel (XL) Miracast

Does anyone know if either Pixel (XL) has Miracast built in? My Nexus 5 (2013) has Miracast and can cast to a wireless display. However, my Nexus 6P can not. I'm looking to finally use just one phone to connect to all my other devices (ie. TV, Spro2, PS4, and Computer monitor). I think it's sad I use my Nexus 5 (2013) just as much if not more than my Nexus 6P, being the newer phone. Hopefully if the Pixel has Miracast, I can have just one phone again. Someone PLEASE help me with your tech-savvy knowledge. :fingers-crossed:

Possible Miracast functionality
I came across this article that mentions a trick that enables Miracast support. I have not received my Pixel yet so I am unable to test. I too am interested to see if this works since I have a pico projector that uses Miracast.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/blog/2016/10/how-to-connect-your-google-pixel-to-your-tv/

chibluboy said:
I came across this article that mentions a trick that enables Miracast support. I have not received my Pixel yet so I am unable to test. I too am interested to see if this works since I have a pico projector that uses Miracast.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/blog/2016/10/how-to-connect-your-google-pixel-to-your-tv/
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I just looked at the directions. Will need root as build.prop edits are needed.
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I just went through that hack on my pixel xl adding the line to build.prop did indeed and the ability to check wiFi connect in cast settings and it actually shows that it's detecting the TV and connects but doesn't transfer video or audio hmmmm.
If anyone has successfully done this please let us know
Thanks ZR1

I have now tested this, and it does not work. It works as the last poster described. The "Enable Wireless Display" button does work now and you can pair it with a device. But once you attempt to connect to the paired device it is disconnected. Seems like it's missing some library or something.
I want to keep this thread going as I really need this feature to use in my Truck while in the back cabin. I have a Belkin Miracast Dongle and I like being able to send my movies from my phone to the TV. Help a trucker out! I'm pretty tech savy, and can grab logcats or whatever is required, message me and I'll be happy to test or gather any data for you.
Thanks in advance.
PS. Keep this thread going.

Waiting for a solution to this? I have Miracast in my car and can not cast to it

I really wish this gets resolved soon. I do impromptu powerpoint presentations and other seminars often, and I've been doing those just with my older phones and Miracast-supported TVs or projectors. Now I have to use the Microsoft WiFi Display Adaptor with the Pixel, which is fine except for those times my external monitors don't have HDMI port.
What's interesting is that I can project photos and videos from the Pixel to a Miracast TV without problem, using AllCast. However, I really need to project everything else, not just items from the gallery.

quangtran1 said:
I really wish this gets resolved soon. I do impromptu powerpoint presentations and other seminars often, and I've been doing those just with my older phones and Miracast-supported TVs or projectors. Now I have to use the Microsoft WiFi Display Adaptor with the Pixel, which is fine except for those times my external monitors don't have HDMI port.
What's interesting is that I can project photos and videos from the Pixel to a Miracast TV without problem, using AllCast. However, I really need to project everything else, not just items from the gallery.
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Is AllCast an app?

PsiPhiDan said:
Is AllCast an app?
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It is an app in the play store. I can cast to my Miracast Sony Bravia HDTV just fine. So, this app apparently does something that the built-in cast function doesn't.

Has anyone figured out how to get this to work? I am rooted, (XL by the way), changed the buildprop and rebooted, everything works fine, it trys to finish the pairing process for screen mirroring but nothing happens with the roku. I can screen mirror perfectly on my LG G3 so I know its not the roku, must be something with the XL. Any help wold be greatly appreciated.

I may be wrong here but my fire TV has mirroring and I searched and searched on mirroring Android phones and I read that after a certain version Google pulled the feature from the newer OTA updates. I've tried downloading apps also and nothin works.

It does but as far as I know it only works for google devices like the Chromecast. I've never been able to get it to mirror to my LG smart TV that has Miracast enabled.

quangtran1 said:
I really wish this gets resolved soon. I do impromptu powerpoint presentations and other seminars often, and I've been doing those just with my older phones and Miracast-supported TVs or projectors. Now I have to use the Microsoft WiFi Display Adaptor with the Pixel, which is fine except for those times my external monitors don't have HDMI port.
What's interesting is that I can project photos and videos from the Pixel to a Miracast TV without problem, using AllCast. However, I really need to project everything else, not just items from the gallery.
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Does the Microsoft display adaptor actually let you mirror successfully? If so, link which one?

lordloki77 said:
Does the Microsoft display adaptor actually let you mirror successfully? If so, link which one?
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I have the original adapter.

I also have this question. I am trying to mirror my screen into my 2016 Honda CR-V head unit with my Google Pixel XL.

HDMI Support

Hello!
Has anyone been able to get HDMI support for the Pixel 3a? Seems like the perfect phone for my dad, but need to either have smart view for connecting to my TV or HDMI support. Thanks!

JJOSH31 said:
Hello!
Has anyone been able to get HDMI support for the Pixel 3a? Seems like the perfect phone for my dad, but need to either have smart view for connecting to my TV or HDMI support. Thanks!
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I tried it with the usb-c to HDMI adaptor I have that works with my S8. Sadly it does not work the Pixel 3a. I don't think it's designed to ever have video out through the usb-c
It will cast to a tv or Chrome cast but I cannot get it to even recognize a Fire Stick. I'm sure it's because of it being made by Amazon

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Sadly it does not work the Pixel 3a. I don't think it's designed to ever have video out through the usb-c
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You are correct. Google stopped this ability (usb X to hdmi) on their devices years ago. Are you attempting to connect Fire directly to the 3a? You would have the same problem. While Chromecast is made to operate from your device, Fire is not. Anything Fire supplies is available through the Amazon app so no need to connect Fire to device. 3a does connect to roku. You can also use the Fire remote app or roku remote app on your device. Both are really effective.
FWIW, there is a thread on this already.

JJOSH31 said:
Hello!
Has anyone been able to get HDMI support for the Pixel 3a? Seems like the perfect phone for my dad, but need to either have smart view for connecting to my TV or HDMI support. Thanks!
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Everyone was saying that it wasn't possible, but I finally figured out how to do it on my Pixel 3a XL! I uploaded a YouTube video so that people could see it actually is possible. Just search YouTube for the video title, "Pixel 3 to HDMI Video Output (using a WIRED adapter)" Basically you need to use a DisplayLink certified USB video adapter. I recommend that you get a newer adapter than the one I used because the frame rate dropped pretty bad at full screen and it put out really choppy/laggy video. I also tested it out on a USB-C powered DisplayLink certified monitor with the newer DisplayLink graphics chipset and the video was real smooth at full screen playback and while gaming.
Oh and you will also have to install the "DisplayLink Presenter" app/driver on your Pixel 2/3/4 phone from the Google Play Store.
Hope this helps!