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Getting Z3 or go for the older Z2 is the question?

Thinking about getting my hands on either the Z3 or the older, bigger brother Z2..
Any suggetions?

Go for Z3.

You would get much better battery life with the Z3

Go for the Z3, better screen and battery life.

Destroyedbeauty said:
Thinking about getting my hands on either the Z3 or the older, bigger brother Z2..
Any suggetions?
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i'd definitely recommend Z3 over Z2. i had Z1 and i was planning to get Z2 after selling it, then i got Z3 black and its just WOW IN ALL:good:

Nidhal AKA the king said:
i'd definitely recommend Z3 over Z2. i had Z1 and i was planning to get Z2 after selling it, then i got Z3 black and its just WOW IN ALL:good:
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How is the overall feeling and build quality for you guys on the Z3?
@all
I did lay an order request on a white Z3 yesterday. Hopefully it arrives sometime next week!

I think the Z3 recommendations are somewhat gratuitous, in that a newer model will always be a step forward with longer software support. I'm now going to be a complete hypocrite and tell you to buy the Z3, simply because it's brilliant (moreso as root access is available for those with locked bootloaders). Build quality is beautiful to look at, although waterproofing could be more consistent, at least by reference to the forums, and thermal cracks are an issue for some. Anyway, if you can afford it by the handset, some quality tempered glass (front and back) and a reasonable case. I have the copper version, and it's stunning.....

deepershades said:
I think the Z3 recommendations are somewhat gratuitous, in that a newer model will always be a step forward with longer software support. I'm now going to be a complete hypocrite and tell you to buy the Z3, simply because it's brilliant (moreso as root access is available for those with locked bootloaders). Build quality is beautiful to look at, although waterproofing could be more consistent, at least by reference to the forums, and thermal cracks are an issue for some. Anyway, if you can afford it by the handset, some quality tempered glass (front and back) and a reasonable case. I have the copper version, and it's stunning.....
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Thanks for the input!
I did order the Z3 yesterday as stated - the white version, white phones and blacks tablets FTW(!!!) - and I am really prepared for a killer device specs wise

Enjoy it, sure you won't regret it.

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Enjoy it, sure you won't regret it.
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Anyone of you guys that wants to see a specific and dedicated ROM / kernel settings, set-up & tuning thread in the Z3 general section, once I get my hands on my new beast? Check my similar topic in the Z1 General section if it does interest you, guys? =)

Or you could wait for z4 ?

Jiyeon90 said:
Or you could wait for z4 ?
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I will buy the Z4 a few months after release, if the price tag is good enough and worth it. And hey.. If it get kickass development support, both original Android dev and regular one..

Considering it's already Feb you are probably better of waiting for the Z4 as it's a much bigger upgrade than the previous two models.

one of the biggest draws of the Z3 is the battery life, and it's unclear whether the enhanced spec of the Z4 will improve on this or not - given the release date may well be later rather than sooner, we could be looking towards the autumn for a rooted Z4 with a locked bootloader (it took nearly four months to crack the Z3 in this aspect).....

I dont get it,how is Battery life on z3 any way better than that in z2?? I mean,z2 has 3200mah battery while z3 has 3100mah

The Z3 screen is more power efficient, though it can reach a max of 800+ nits, also they seemed to have made some other tweaks, that is why the Z3 has better battery life.

See you guys tomorrow, I hope - because I will get my Z3 then!

Destroyedbeauty said:
See you guys tomorrow, I hope - because I will get my Z3 then!
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first impressions?

Jiyeon90 said:
first impressions?
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I am impressed. And this is even on stock and untouched ROM / kernel. I am going to unlock the bootloader today and install a pre-rooted ZIP based on latest firmware and play around with some FauxClock settings / init.d scripts and see how far I can push this device battery & performance wise!
What is your impressions of the Z3?

Destroyedbeauty said:
I am impressed. And this is even on stock and untouched ROM / kernel. I am going to unlock the bootloader today and install a pre-rooted ZIP based on latest firmware and play around with some FauxClock settings / init.d scripts and see how far I can push this device battery & performance wise!
What is your impressions of the Z3?
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Great to hear that, I haven't upgraded from the z2 as the differences are minimal but yeah I love the design and I don't need to flash another room as the sony UI with nova launcher and root is perfect for me [emoji4]

[Q] is getting the z3 now in the almost ending 2015 a good idea?

I'm considering in purchasing a xperia z3 D6603. I will be coming from the new 2015 moto x pure which I can't put my finger on it but something about the phone I don't like. I know the mot x pure is a brand new phone with brand new specs so why would i downgrade to an older device? I've always sparked interest in the Sony line of devices. The z5 is just way to expensive for me. I'm still in the 14 day return period for the moto x pure and thinking of returning it and ordering a xperia z3. Does the z3 already have 5.1.1 lollipop ota? And which varient of the z3 is the more supported version?. I'm from the u.s but looking in the android dev thread it looks like the D6603 is the more supported version.
Any thoughts and issues with the device?
Thanks in advance

I think you should
It's an awesome piece of device. I bought mine 6 months ago knowing that there will be newer flagships such as the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge or the upcoming Sony Xperia Z5 and so on. Despite the newer flagships on the market, I still consider this unit at top notch. Sure it has no fingerprint sensor like the 2 that I mentioned, but nonetheless, it's a handsome piece of device. As for the OTA update, I'm not quite sure if it is available there in the US.. But I'm pretty sure with PC Companion, you can update yours easily. Not to mention that the upcoming Android Marshmallow or Android M for Sony will be released before the year ends. Just watch out for dead pixels; those are the common defects I read about on the internet.

I just bought my Z3 a few days ago... My G4 screen died and I decided to get an older device. Like you I had the same issue with the G4... Great device but there was just something about it I just cant get away with, i think it mightve been the clunky interface or the whole G4 package just seemed to much.. Im not sure.
However, Im happy with the Z3.. I also looked at the M9 as Im a bit of a Media lover, but for me the Camera on the M9 just hadnt improved enough to warrant the cash... Yes ok, the speakers on the M9 do give a richer fuller sound than the Z3, but the ones on the Z3 are not to be ignored. They can lack bass and mid-range, sounding a bit tinny at times, but for me it was... Great speakers, Awesome camera, great battery of the Z3 Or Amazing speakers, awful Camera and ok battery of the M9.. The Z3 won... plus I like alot of the Apps that come on the Z3, which save me having to download extra apps to waste more battery, such as:
A podcast App built strainght into the Walkman player
Google Newstand and Xperia lounge for news, music and a few interesting things.
Sony Video
A built-in FM Radio
and Love it oir Hate it... Sonys LifeLog.
The speakers are Loud but again can lack richness.
A great all round package... and even though its very square.. It looks quite cool as well and a nice dearture from all the Samsung sheep walking around.
Here in UK, we have LP 511, but just hope SONY survive with the Z5... Their mobile devision hangs in the balance here.
Z3 is a great device.. ide recommend it to anyone

I bought this phone 3 months ago, and it is an awesomely great looking phone with good specs... I except more from the camera, but the design is outstanding to me... You'll see what i mean when you have this phone, especially the copper colour. Multitasking is great, it is comfortable to hold, the speaker is awesome but sometimes it is a bit low, especially when watching on YouTube., it is fast, no stutter what so ever, except in lockscreen which is frequently stuttered (it is a new bug, haven't discovered this in 5.0.2), low light and outdoor camera is very good, it is very rigid to me, especially if you use tempered glass screen protector on both front and back, the battery is great,but the performance is a bit reduced since. 200 update and later..
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I'm about to buy that phone next week. Is it still a problem with camera after rooting? I don't know much about it, that's why I'm asking.

Definitely worth it. Esp the price is low now. I have Z3, my brother the S6 and he is thinking of switching to a Z3 too. Mainly bec of the battery, waterproofness, SD Card slot, front speakers and practically everything else except maybe the screen amd fingerprint scanner. If fingerscanner is a must i advised him to get tge Z5, but the price is still quite high.
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I bought the xperia z3 a few days ago and i have no regrets. The battery, sleek UI and design is what makes this phone amazing and the community on the Z3 forums on xda are one of my favourites so far

Z5 or wait for a Z6?

Hi.
Just wondering if it is worth getting a Z5 now or since I can wait, just wait for the Z6? Are there even any rumors about it yet?

so far I haven´t heard anything about Z6 yet. if you can wait, then wait for Z6, otherwise, go for Z5, i got mine last friday, and already, i really like this device, eventhough in the past i was not fan of sony´s design ( I like more SE design)

I have a Z3 tablet and really love the design and feel of it. It's super thin with great quality and feels solid. I'm hoping the phone will feel the same.

I bought Z5 because my old device was dead. I would wait for Z6 if I had time. IMO, Snapdragon 820 will do much better than S810 especially for heat problem.

Please wait, because WMC on 21st will bring many goodies.
It's better to wait than to regret later.
Rest all upto you. ?
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I'll give you my honest honest advice, not being biased or a fanboy
You should save your money for better device with great support, and huge xda devs
buying a Sony phone is just a waste of money, i'll never again buy a Xperia phone.

Azdian said:
I'll give you my honest honest advice, not being biased or a fanboy
You should save your money for better device with great support, and huge xda devs
buying a Sony phone is just a waste of money, i'll never again buy a Xperia phone.
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Why do you say so? I have recently bought second hand xperia z3 and I love it. I am glad that I finally got rid of my crappy samsung. Also, compared to nexus'es, it is a much better device. Would be nice to hear your opinion though.

To be honest, in a perfect world, I would prefer a Sony Nexus phone. I love Sony's phone designs and would prefer stock Android, but as I can disable most of what is included on the phone I'm just fine with that.

aidaz said:
Why do you say so? I have recently bought second hand xperia z3 and I love it. I am glad that I finally got rid of my crappy samsung. Also, compared to nexus'es, it is a much better device. Would be nice to hear your opinion though.
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It sounds like he's speaking with concern to community developer support, of which Sony devices have relatively little because they're so unpopular compared to other brands like Nexus, Samsung, LG, OPO, etc.
It really depends on what phone you have now. If you've got something that doesn't make you shout curses, then I also suggest waiting for the Z6 or for other brands in general. There're a lot of devices to be announced in the coming months. I'm just waiting for a decent device with a large battery, SD slot, and unlockable bootloader to drop so I can ditch the Z5. I really hope that device is the Z6, but if it's something else, then so be it. The Z5 is not a terrible phone, but I don't think it's worth its retail price—especially in comparison to the Z2 and Z3, which perform just as well or better, and can be bought for much less.

Is always better to wait, but in this case is a +plus because the z5 is a fail

Or if you wait long enough you could get the Z8

The Z5 is a very disappointing phone that comes with an awfully bad firmware. In all honesty, stay away from that phone.
And the support is non-existent too. Sony is amateurish at best in that department. Get something more popular and better, you won't regret.
As a matter of fact I sold my Z5 after 4 months. It sucked

Phazonclash said:
The Z5 is a very disappointing phone that comes with an awfully bad firmware. In all honesty, stay away from that phone.
And the support is non-existent too. Sony is amateurish at best in that department. Get something more popular and better, you won't regret.
As a matter of fact I sold my Z5 after 4 months. It sucked
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I'm very happy with the stock rom on here compared to the other devices I've owned, Samsung, lg and htc.
Obviously rooting and debloating is still necessary as with all android devices.
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My Z5 is much better than my old Z1.
I have none of the problems the people on this forum claims to have.
Lots of people complains about the battery, but my battery is just fine.
I have a feeling most of the people here have unrealistic expectations on their phone and are pissed at Sony because there's no solution to root without unlocking the bootloader, but the current firmware is just fine.
tl:dr IF you really want a new phone now, go for the Z5 because you won't be disappointed (unless you also have unrealistic expectations).
Otherwise, wait for the WMC 2016 and see if Sony announces Z6
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Phazonclash said:
The Z5 is a very disappointing phone that comes with an awfully bad firmware. In all honesty, stay away from that phone.
And the support is non-existent too. Sony is amateurish at best in that department. Get something more popular and better, you won't regret.
As a matter of fact I sold my Z5 after 4 months. It sucked
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Oi, you said you wouldn't still be on here complaining:
"Take care, see you soon... the good thing is you won't have to "hear" me complain again "

Feb 2016 - Z3 still worth buying, root friendly?

Please, Z3 faithful owners, can I have your opinions? Am I crazy to be looking at buying a Z3 at this late stage? Is the battery still good on latest Android? Some reviews talk of screens that break all buy themselves - is this a real risk? Should I care that Sony may stop making mobiles?
Why Z3? Well Z3+ seems to have worse battery. Z5 costs 50% more and not sure I need it.
I'm buying in UK SIM free. It's for business use: email, web, documents. Battery life is important, and I prefer no software bloat. Won't play games or watch movies (maybe a quick how-to on YouTube, that's it). Occasional camera, prefer idiot-proof. I'd like to keep using the phone for 3-4 years.
I do plan to root, with some hope of claiming under guarantee in case of hardware failure. I've done my best to scan these forums but please bear in mind I am totally new to Sony phones and there is a lot of info. It looks good so far - any gotchas I should know about? I see there are Marshmallow ROMs - are these safe/recommended for general use? And available for root locked bootloader? I didn't find a Xposed thread - does it work OK?
Many thanks.

I was in the same dilemma two months ago and i went for the z3. z3+ not worth it and z5 is more expensive and i'm not quite sure it's worth it. We have a z5 here at the office and i compared it with my z3. On the latest firmware both of them, it's true that z5 was a little snappier but not by much, tho when under heavy stress it will heat up...
Battery is very good for me. I usually use my phone 2 hours per day, on screen time and listen to music some 3 hours. Data always on and some bad reception where i work... I get home at 7 pm with ~50%. I say that's awsome. The camera is identical to z5, i don't see any difference. If there is, it's probably so small you won't even see it, at least not on the level that I expect mobile phone cameras to be.
Root is available, as well as xposed fwk. Everything works ok on the latest 5.1.1. MM ROMs are only for unlockedBL for now but we are soon expecting oficial MM. Anyway those MM based on CM are worse on battery and not working fully.
Any other info needed?

Yeah I have the same dilemma, but I consider between xperia z3 and nexus 5x. Do you know something about Sony plans about android N for xperia 3? What do you think will it get next android? Cause nexus 5x for sure. Thx.

I recently "downgraded" from an Xperia Z5 to a Z3 and I don't regret my decision one little bit.
More ROMs to choose from, root easily achievable by first flashing 4.4.4 and then flashing a pre-rooted .ftf.
Battery life is like night and day. I was ending the day on my Z5 with 5-10% battery. With my Z3 and a custom ROM, I'm ending the day with upwards of 50%.
Also, the Z3, to me, feels more premium and better built than the Z5.
If you can find one for £200 or thereabouts, grab it. It's a bargain.

Get one. But don't do what I did, I bought a unit from a guy who got a "new" replacement from his insurance company, the screen ripples when I touch it and I have pressure marks (the screen is genuine, however). The phone isn't waterproof either. Do you reckon I could send it to Sony and get it repaired? Maybe Sony repaired it.
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This device dead?

I really like the phone but I have not seen any activity on it. The regular XA2 even has Lineage OS 16

Definately not dead, but rare. Never seen it in someone's hand since it's launch. Bought one a few days ago.

new to xa2 ultra
Nice mid range phone. just fine for my needs as recent retiree. Latest version of Android (8.0.0) is a much better OS than it was even 2yrs ago.

horribly buggy like most Sony phones
restarts by itself
sound stops working
calls stop working
Samsung and Sony should get together to work on the worst Android platform together...

nope hard nope
drmosh said:
horribly buggy like most Sony phones
restarts by itself
sound stops working
calls stop working
Samsung and Sony should get together to work on the worst Android platform together...
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Have not had any such stated problems u have mentioned. And iv been buying Sony phones since 2014. I've bought the z3, z, z5, xa ultra, x performance, xa1 ultra, xz, and the xz premium and have never had any of those issues. While I wanna believe you, your on xda which mean u tinker with your phones. If that above is happening ur doing something wrong or the room or mods are messing it up. Modding comes with risk. But doesn't make it fast because it happens to u

So far XA2 ultra is a big step up from XA1 ultra
However, cam is still bad as last model. Rooted or not.

A friend of mine just bought this phone a couple of weeks ago and I just ordered mine on Saturday. LOS is still available for it. Not dead, but discontinued. Hooray $200 price drop