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[Q] rooting/flashing without void warranty

Hi All,
I`ve just purchased a NS and I want it to be rooted. It was quite easy on my previous phone (SG3), but now I`m unable to find any guides to do this without unlocking the bootloader.
Actually flashing a custom ROM, such as CM7 would be the next step but I can live with this original one(2.3.4), but rooting is vital, I`m unable to live without eg. titanium backup, but also need the 2 years warranty...
Do you have any idea for solving this?
Thanks in advance.
fishmong3r

You can try the Gingerbreak exploit. Other than that I know of no way without unlocking the bootloader.

I`v tried Gingerbreak yesterday but unfortunately it`s not working.
Any other idea?

No. I thought the Gingerbreak exploit might have been fixed in 2.3.4 but I wasn't sure. I don't know of any other way without unlocking the bootloader.

Why don't you unlock the bootloader? It is not like the nexus one. The bootloader can be locked again at ur wish with the command : fastboot OEM lock
You can unlock the bootloader, flash your recovery, flash your rom and lock it up again if that is your wish.
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This would be fine if this is not causing warranty issues.
To be honest I've read somewhere in this forum that unlocking the bootloader is irreversible and voids the warranty.
So please repose me.

deeren said:
Why don't you unlock the bootloader? It is not like the nexus one. The bootloader can be locked again at ur wish with the command : fastboot OEM lock
You can unlock the bootloader, flash your recovery, flash your rom and lock it up again if that is your wish.
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a helpful member on this forum also told me that :
Samsung can read out files to see if you unlocked the bootloader IF they want to
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So is there anyOther way to root without warranty void ??

dharmil007 said:
a helpful member on this forum also told me that :
So is there anyOther way to root without warranty void ??
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Gingerbreak, but it's not working with the latest Android versions anymore afaik.

rentaric said:
Gingerbreak, but it's not working with the latest Android versions anymore afaik.
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i'Ve read that in the previous post too.
anyOther way ?

dharmil007 said:
i'Ve read that in the previous post too.
anyOther way ?
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None that I'd know of, maybe someone got a private hardware approach/mod, but that I highly doubt.
Gingerbreak before 2.2 (I think) or unlocking bootloader via fastboot oem unlock.

This really shouldn't be a huge concern.
Look at the language on the unlock screen. Unlike the Nexus One which stated unlocking voids the warranty the Nexus S language has been tweaked to indicate unlocking *may* void your warranty.
Even with unlocked bootloaders HTC honored the warranty on the Nexus One for hardware issues. Don't expect to unlock, root, leave the LED on high for 20 minutes and then try to send it in for repair when it burns out though.

Relock bootloader

I found the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597856
But the link is broken. Anyone else have the files or the source? I have to send mine back due to a defective earphone speaker. BL makes no difference in the EU, but I want to skip the arguments I'm sure they'll try.
RGDS
EDIT: Fixed. Tried the fastboot commands and it worked.

ares93 said:
I found the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597856
But the link is broken. Anyone else have the files or the source? I have to send mine back due to a defective earphone speaker. BL makes no difference in the EU, but I want to skip the arguments I'm sure they'll try.
RGDS
EDIT: Fixed. Tried the fastboot commands and it worked.
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i added another link
now works

danger2u said:
i added another link
now works
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Excellent, thank you. At least it will now work for others.

a quick basic question
When you unlock the bootloader, don't they keep record of your device ID that it was unlocked? And your warranty automatically voids? I'm just wondering? Were you able to relock it? Did you send it to the service centre and got it repaired?

tegr96 said:
When you unlock the bootloader, don't they keep record of your device ID that it was unlocked? And your warranty automatically voids? I'm just wondering? Were you able to relock it? Did you send it to the service centre and got it repaired?
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They'll know from the bootloader, it has a flag showing that it has been previously unlocked.

What do you mean by this?
ares93 said:
BL makes no difference in the EU
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TotalD3str4ct said:
What do you mean by this?
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According to EU Directive 1999/44/CE there is a statutory warranty on all electronics in the EU.
The only way to void it is if the manufacturer/seller can irrefutably prove that the user caused the defect. And the burden of proof is on them, not you.
There is an excellent explanation here: http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
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They'll know from the bootloader, it has a flag showing that it has been previously unlocked.
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Apparently the Moto G has three BL states. Locked, Unlocked and relocked. However relocked gives a "Locked - Status Code 2" flag. So unless you're sending it to a Motorola repair centre, they wont notice the difference.

Bootloader unlock code for future use

Just got the D6633 dual Sim for my wife. I use Nexus devices exclusively but since Sony offers bootloader unlocking I decided to get this phone instead of a Nexus for her.
My question is, should I go through the steps to actually get the bootloader unlock code for future use. I don't plan on unlocking the bootloader just yet but I worry that in the future the service might be discontinued and I'll never get a code from Sony.
It's still under warranty and I'd like to keep it that way so I guess the real question is, is getting the code what voids the warranty or actually preforming the unlock that does it? Is there a counter or some type of a flag in the device that is set permanently or can the bootloader be locked back again like any Nexus device?
Thanks for your help.

No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.

TheTeslaCoil said:
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
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OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?

obsanity said:
OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
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You trigger something on their servers, it's all about the IMEI and Serial Number.
Even if you relock the bootloader, they will still know it was unlocked, I for example relocked the bootloader the official way, via SONY website, and got the code in my email.

Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.

gregbradley said:
Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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True, it is a good idea to backup the TA partion, I myself didn't do it, but it is a good advice.

OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.

obsanity said:
OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
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Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.

TheTeslaCoil said:
Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
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So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.

obsanity said:
So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
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If you restore your TA partition, yeah, you can claim warranty.

I want to relock the boot loader. How?

I want to do this. Is there a way to do so and retain data?

gunnyman said:
I want to do this. Is there a way to do so and retain data?
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via fastboot...
fastboot oem lock
I don't recall if it factory defaults, as I rarely lock

bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock

gunnyman said:
bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
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Download appropriate RUU from https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/how-to/collection-htcu-u11-ruu-firmware-t3612048 place it on SD card, rename to 2PZCIMG.zip, put SD card into phone, press & hold vol down and power button to boot into download mode and confirm RUU flashing (battery should be over 30 or something %)
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I have twrp still installed recovery won't start and it doesn't boot

gunnyman said:
I have twrp still installed recovery won't start and it doesn't boot
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I edited my post for better description. You should do what it says there (you need to boot to download mode).
Also relocking bootloader with twrp still installed is a no no

Ok. Thanks. I'm charging phone now I got running ruu exe sorted. Thanks for the push in the right direction

gunnyman said:
Ok. Thanks. I'm charging phone now I got running ruu exe sorted. Thanks for the push in the right direction
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Np.. Hope you get it sorted.
(the steps I described I described are for sd card method, if there is ruu exe for your variant you should just follow instructions once you start ruu exe on your computer)

I was freaking out because I was getting USB error 170 running the RUU. Got it all sorted out and am back up and running.

gunnyman said:
I was freaking out because I was getting USB error 170 running the RUU. Got it all sorted out and am back up and running.
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Good to hear :good:

Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!

tokenbest said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
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There isn't at least for now. And in any case until there is s-off even if there was other way it will show as relocked and modified after you lock it again.
there's no sunshine in the sky for now, but warranty is not voided in most countries/cases anyway.

velimircek said:
There isn't at least for now. And in any case until there is s-off even if there was other way it will show as relocked and modified after you lock it again.
there's no sunshine in the sky for now, but warranty is not voided in most countries/cases anyway.
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Thanks but sadly.. the customer support for HTC Singapore said warranty would be void after unlocking bootloader and any issues would not be covered, seriously though -_- sucks to hear that and making me hesitate on purchasing a U11 currently.

tokenbest said:
Thanks but sadly.. the customer support for HTC Singapore said warranty would be void after unlocking bootloader and any issues would not be covered, seriously though -_- sucks to hear that and making me hesitate on purchasing a U11 currently.
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I got the same response from HTC Czech Republic: unlocking the bootloader would instantly void my warranty, plus they said that warranty-keeping bootloader unlock is possible only in that one special case for US customers, the rest of the world voids their warranty by doing so :/
Rant on the side: I truly despise not being allowed to get root privileges without voiding the warranty - it is MY device, yet I can't control the system. I want to do MY own backups, control (or inspect) the data apps save to MY phone, and control the configuration of MY system. I really hate being locked out from even such basic configurations as the hosts file is - I'm effectively barred from some aspects of web development so that advertisements can be shoved down my throat

gunnyman said:
bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
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How did you get it to relock? i keep getting a failed messaged with the command above.
C:\adb>fastboot oem lock
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FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.004s

tokenbest said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
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Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.

EtherealRemnant said:
Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
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175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol

schmeggy929 said:
175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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Hell no, I have no interest in dropping another 175 bucks, I think it's ridiculous but it is currently the only way to do a number of things with the device. I'd consider it if being able to unlock and relock the phone without HTC ever having a clue was a big deal or there was a Google edition and I needed to change the CID and MID or other things but honestly, I still have my 10 if I really need to get at something that was on that phone but not on this one (for example my Battle.net authenticator). I suppose I could always try Helium though with my desktop but I imagine that's a protected app like Google Authenticator which required root to backup and why I switched to Authy.
I mentioned the XTC2Clip because it is the only way to get S-OFF of any kind right now and to point out that even with its temp S-OFF, it still can't restore the bootloader to factory locked status. It's an important thing to point out, not everyone knows that HTC has two different locked statuses, one that proves the phone has been tampered with, and one that is factory locked. A lot of people ask to go back to stock so they can send it in for a warranty claim or a refund to go buy another device. The relocked bootloader obviously kills one or both options depending on the situation.

EtherealRemnant said:
Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
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175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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Does it void warranty? I returned my bootloader relocked U11 to HTC due to a scratch on the display. Was offered a refund or exchange. I had to go the refund route to swap colours ( I went from Black to Blue). Was accepted without any fuss.

Galactus said:
Does it void warranty? I returned my bootloader relocked U11 to HTC due to a scratch on the display. Was offered a refund or exchange. I had to go the refund route to swap colours ( I went from Black to Blue). Was accepted without any fuss.
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Yeah, a lot of people are claiming unlocked bootloader voids warranty now, however US is more relaxed. Every single HTC phone I had was returned with Unlocked Bootloader and S-off, never had a problem. Other countries are more strict I guess. I can understand not knowing the return policy and people relock for that reason(for returns) but I see many relocking for flashing RUU or firmware. This is not needed or even should be done. I'm a RUU flasher with each update, so I know no problems arise. This has been the case for the last 8,9 or 10 phones lol.

I lost my unlock code

Hello,
I unlocked my photo 3 weeks ago and I lost my unlock code.
I can't acces the website to retrieve it and I need that unlock code to Relock my device.
How to retrevie my code again?
Thanks

damn, should have saved mine too

Me too ! ****...

Another question,
Will my bootloader get locked if I reset my device to Stock Rom?
Thank you

Apache26 said:
Another question,
Will my bootloader get locked if I reset my device to Stock Rom?
Thank you
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No, flashing stock firmware won't re-lock your bootloader currently, but since Huawei stopped providing the unlock codes there is a chance that they could include a relocking mechanism in future updates.

Alright, thank you very much for reply.
Well, they should add relock mechanicsm if they go for secure devices.

Yep I'm in the same boat. Wanted to return the phone, just not happy with it, but looks like I'm stuck with it unless someone on swappa wants it.

We should spam Huawei Supports center with this problem.

haha I saved mine to Google Photos, IMGUR and photobucket.. lmao