Icons: 4g AND WiFi - Huawei Mate 9 Questions & Answers

HI Guys. I think this is what's known as a 'senior moment'! I'm still getting used to the subtle differences between my new Mate 9 and my previous Android phones and I have a question about the icons at the top of the screen...
I'm sure that with previous phone,s if WiFi was on it didn't show the data connection via the phone e.g. H+/3g/4g - in other words, it was one OR the other.
I just noticed that on my Mate 9 (L29) BOTH are showing - see attached. Is that unusual? ... or am I going nuts?
Thanks

Huawei does it different, you're not going nuts!
I actually even have the internet speed up there too?...
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I think it's how Huawei manages Wi-Fi +
They're a lot more efficient at switching between mobile data and wifi than anyone else....

Thanks for the info! :good:

Trouble is even if I turn off mobile data and wifi 4g LTE icon still persists. Is that also a Huawei thing?

Limeybastard said:
Trouble is even if I turn off mobile data and wifi 4g LTE icon still persists. Is that also a Huawei thing?
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Turning WiFi off has nothing with 4G.
However ('Huawei thing'), even without Mobile data, it still connects to 4g (but it shall switch to 3g for calls - you can check).
You can disable 4g in Settings / Wireless & network / Mobile network / Preferred network mode, select 3g/2g auto

zgfg said:
Turning WiFi off has nothing with 4G.
However ('Huawei thing'), even without Mobile data, it still connects to 4g (but it shall switch to 3g for calls - you can check).
You can disable 4g in Settings / Wireless & network / Mobile network / Preferred network mode, select 3g/2g auto
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With mobile data off, it still shows 4G icon in status bar and doesn't connect to anything. My point being it shouldn't show the 4G icon in status bar when mobile data is toggled off.
I believe this has to do with region C185 firmware. As the western Europe versions don't seem to exhibit this behavior.

Limeybastard said:
With mobile data off, it still shows 4G icon in status bar and doesn't connect to anything. My point being it shouldn't show the 4G icon in status bar when mobile data is toggled off.
I believe this has to do with region C185 firmware. As the western Europe versions don't seem to exhibit this behavior.
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Yes, it still shows 4g icon because IT IS connected to 4g - please read my previous post/answer
And you can install Net Monster or LTE Discovery and you will see that it is indeed connected to 4g (and to which 4g band, etc) while idle (although you switched Mobile Data off). It only switches back to 3g during the call.
It's not that icon is wrong, it is Huawei behavior.
And it doesn't matter, nothing is wrong in that - it just means that although you switched Mobile Data off, it still attaches to 4g when you are not in call (although you are not using 4g data)
Install Net Monster, LTE Discovery, Net Monitor or Network Cell Info Lite to see details about the band, cell, etc, it us really attached to

zgfg said:
Yes, it still shows 4g icon because IT IS connected to 4g - please read my previous post/answer
And you can install Net Monster or LTE Discovery and you will see that it is indeed connected to 4g (and to which 4g band, etc) while idle (although you switched Mobile Data off). It only switches back to 3g during the call.
It's not that icon is wrong, it is Huawei behavior.
And it doesn't matter, nothing is wrong in that - it just means that although you switched Mobile Data off, it still attaches to 4g when you are not in call (although you are not using 4g data)
Install Net Monster, LTE Discovery, Net Monitor or Network Cell Info Lite to see details about the band, cell, etc, it us really attached to
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It just so happens I have the pro version Network signal info. Yep you're effin right. Its says it's connected. Albeit won't let me upload nor download data. Why does Huawei do this? Other devices normally when disconnected from mobile data show just bars and not 4g LTE icon.

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How to Fix AT&T Data Throttle Your 4G - Your Data Usage is Among The Top 5% Of Users
There is a nice little APN fix. Just change the APN to Phone and force your phone to use HSPA in your phone's settings. I have instructions with a screenshot...
http://www.traemcneely.com/2011/12/...rottle-4g-data-anti-throttling-trick-for-att/
How do you perform the first step on the skyrocket?
1. Go to Settings > Wireless and Network > Mobile Networks > Click Network Mode and force your phone to use GSM/HSPA (Auto mode).
I don't see "network mode".
Click Access Point Name..
I am now getting 512k vs 150k.
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Found another trick.
I named the access point the same ATT pta, then I put Phone under the APN setting.
Put your phone into GSM/HSPA (auto mode) let it connect to the network,
then go back and put it as HSPA only.....I'm getting 1-2g+ bypassing the throttle using HSPA+ works like a charm.
Att Throttle Samsung Skyrocket
i did all when i click on Mobile networks i see access point names and network operators and use packet data. When i click on network operators is says Default setup doesnt allow me to do anything. Please help
Same here. Don't see 'network.mode' selection. Please help. Does it have to be rooted?
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I understand there are alot of threds pertaing to this throttling issue. I was given a warning text from att about a week ago now when ever i run my speed test i am only getting around 50kbs thats crazy. I live in pittsburgh which is not an LTE area yet am i screwed? or is there a work around for me????????
there is no network mode on a stock rom.. i posted workarounds on another thread which I started but can't find link now on my phone.. check my profile for my posts
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I am still not sure where/how to pick "GSM/HSPA (Auto mode)" on stock rom. Thats not an option.
What I have are:
WCDMA preferred - The GSM phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 3G is favored more.
GSM only - The GSM phone is capable of using only 2G data communication. When the 2G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
WCDMA only - The GSM phone is capable of using only 3G data communication. When the 3G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
GSM auto (PRL) - The GSM phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more. This one is a bit confusing to me since PRL is associated mostly with CDMA technology and not GSM technology.
CDMA auto (PRL) - The CDMA phone is capable of using both 2G and 3G data communication and when signal strength is low 2G is favored more.
CDMA only - The CDMA phone is capable of using only 2G data communication. When the 2G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
EvDo only - The CDMA phone is capable of using only 3G data communication. When the 3G signal is too low you get nothing at all.
GSM/CDMA auto (PRL) - Some phones are equipped with both GSM and CDMA capabilities. This setting appears to just have the phone attempt to stay connected to the data communication type that works the best. (Maybe the Samsung Galaxy S will take advantage of this???)
Unknown - If none of the above fit or the phone is acting weird as far as connecting to the carrier, you will see your preferred network type is set to this
(Cut n paste from another thread, dont know if these are applicable to Skyrocket/LTE)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342111
Thanks for the pointer to the thread but my whole point is that I dont see those options and for some reason my network mode changes dont stick.
So if I disable packet network, switch the APN, change the network mode and then enable the network again, I see that it has gone back to GSM?WCDMA/LTE auto mode again.
So for some reason my network mode changes dont stick. Also, I am on stock rom, could that be the reason!
activemind said:
Thanks for the pointer to the thread but my whole point is that I dont see those options and for some reason my network mode changes dont stick.
So if I disable packet network, switch the APN, change the network mode and then enable the network again, I see that it has gone back to GSM?WCDMA/LTE auto mode again.
So for some reason my network mode changes dont stick. Also, I am on stock rom, could that be the reason!
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Custom ROMS give you the options you are looking for.
I am confused ! If the stock radio is *locked* to use LTE if available, why are some people reporting to lock onto HSPA+ network with stock ROM. Are they exploiting some bug?
I have tried various things but I cant switch my radio to anything except GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto mode. It seems to come back to that mode.
Do I need a reboot after changing the mode.
I am using *#*4636#*#* to switch the mode.
Switching APN 's worked like a charm ;o)
TE TOQUE said:
Switching APN 's worked like a charm ;o)
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Over a year since last post and you decide to necro for no good reason smh.
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[Q] 3g/wifi question

the question is, why i see both 3g and wifi icons on the status bar at the same time? i mean, wich one is the one i using it when both are on the status bar? do i lost my MB from my data network while i'm using the wifi?
You see both because they're both available. However, the phone will prefer to use WiFi whenever it's connected. If you had a long-running connection over 3G, it might stay on the 3G, and I think some types of data always go over 3G (MMS? But that shouldn't use data plan limit anyhow). Also, just because the WiFi icon shows doesn't mean it's usable; if the WiFi connection is unable to reach the Internet for some reason, the phone will fall back to using 3G.
Sometimes it's possible that the phone uses 3G even though it is connected to a Wifi network. I recognize this, when the 3G Icon turns to 3G+.
I've noticed my Focus Flash tends to use 3G always for push email whereas the browser and market place tends to use WiFi if both are available. Don't know what the situation is for other apps.
@Der Moloch: That's not what "3G+" means at all. It means your phone is connected to a "faster than 3G" technology, probably HSPA+. Although some carriers (and phones) refer to this as "4G", and some phones will just put "H" or "H+" there instead, it all means the same thing. If you go dig into the registry, you can see the list of text that the phone displays for different wireless data technology connections.
@GoodDayToDie
My 3G symbol only changes to 3G+, when there is an actual data transfer.
That's... REALLY weird. I haven't heard of anybody reporting that experience before. The registry values I mentioned are in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Connectivity\CellularUX\DataConnectionIcon. None of the options on my phone are "3G+" but then, my phone doesn't support a "3.5G" network technology like HSPA+ either...
My device also shows 3G+ sometimes when it is available.If not just 3G.
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What do you mean by data transfer?
@Ttblondey
When I say data transfer, I mean that the phone is actually submitting something through the data connection.
For example, I have my mail sync set to manual. I open up the e-mail interface of my Windows phone. On the top right there is the digital clock. If I put my finger on it, the battery icon and the 3G icon (with the reception bars next to it) show up. Then I press sync and the 3G icon changes to 3G+. Once the sync is done, it changes back to 3G.
Maybe I'll upload a video about that, once I am back at my place and have access to a webcam.
You're seeing the phone switch to HSPA+ when it needs to, and back off to HSPA when there's no data being transferred.
It's a power saving thing.
Exactly and this confirms my post above regarding the wireless situation.

[Q] LTE + WLAN at same time

Hi,
today I was wondering about that. My N5 still holds a connection to LTE while it uses internet over a WLAN network. Only when I'm getting a call it switches to E/H/3G whatever to build up the phone call. Isn't it wasting battery holding up the LTE connection (LTE needs more power than the rest doesn't it?)?
Do you guys know why its made like this?
Thanks,
S3cret
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52317361/Screenshot_2013-12-07-19-08-53.png
S3cret said:
Hi,
today I was wondering about that. My N5 still holds a connection to LTE while it uses internet over a WLAN network. Only when I'm getting a call it switches to E/H/3G whatever to build up the phone call. Isn't it wasting battery holding up the LTE connection (LTE needs more power than the rest doesn't it?)?
Do you guys know why its made like this?
Thanks,
S3cret
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52317361/Screenshot_2013-12-07-19-08-53.png
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Phone calls use data? It should say disconnected. Does it persist after a reboot?
Aerowinder said:
Phone calls use data? It should say disconnected. Does it persist after a reboot?
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No it doesn't use mobile data. I'm just wondering that its still saying that the network type is LTE, cause when It's connected to a wlan the network usage would only be for phone calls and LTE does only support mobile data but no calls or sms. Just wondering why the network type isn't changing to GPRS or whatever.
S3cret said:
No it doesn't use mobile data. I'm just wondering that its still saying that the network type is LTE, cause when It's connected to a wlan the network usage would only be for phone calls and LTE does only support mobile data but no calls or sms. Just wondering why the network type isn't changing to GPRS or whatever.
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Your picture looks normal, this screen shows the data network type, not your cell voice/sms connection. The network is LTE, but is disconnected while you are connected on Wifi.
To see what is happening, look on the status bar. It shows the Wifi icon then the cell signal strength but not LTE. When you disconnect the Wifi, the Wifi icon will disappear and LTE will appear next to the cell signal strength icon. If it is doing that, all is working correctly.
alistairs1 said:
Your picture looks normal, this screen shows the data network type, not your cell voice/sms connection. The network is LTE, but is disconnected while you are connected on Wifi.
To see what is happening, look on the status bar. It shows the Wifi icon then the cell signal strength but not LTE. When you disconnect the Wifi, the Wifi icon will disappear and LTE will appear next to the cell signal strength icon. If it is doing that, all is working correctly.
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Yup its doing right that.
Still a little weird for me^^
Nvm, thank you guys.

[Q] Disable Roaming "R" icon in status bar.

I am using an MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operator), so I have always had to activate "Data Roaming" in order to be able to establish a connection over the mobile data network.
Usually in my S3 which i was using before, I could see a sign next to the reception gauge which indicated me which mobile data standard my device was using at the moment (H+/E/G), even when I was roaming at these times.
Nowadays on my new Nexus 5 with stock Android 4.4 I am justing being shown the "R" sign next to the gauge, without any indicator for the standard it is using at the moment (LTE/H+/E/G).
Is there a way to disable the roaming indicator ? can anyone tell me or create a xposed module for the same if possible ?
thanks in advance. it is such a small issue but its annoying since i dont get full connection always and want to check whether i am getting 2g or 3g
Are u using Lycamobile?
Which country & network are you in?
My operator is a MVNO in the UK, but don't get the Roaming flag.
That said, when I was living in India if I travelled to a different state it would behave as you're saying - so wonder if it's more related to that than the fact it's an MVNO?
Yes am using Lycamobile and I live in Virginia, USA
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premsurya said:
I am using an MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operator), so I have always had to activate "Data Roaming" in order to be able to establish a connection over the mobile data network.
Usually in my S3 which i was using before, I could see a sign next to the reception gauge which indicated me which mobile data standard my device was using at the moment (H+/E/G), even when I was roaming at these times.
Nowadays on my new Nexus 5 with stock Android 4.4 I am justing being shown the "R" sign next to the gauge, without any indicator for the standard it is using at the moment (LTE/H+/E/G).
Is there a way to disable the roaming indicator ? can anyone tell me or create a xposed module for the same if possible ?
thanks in advance. it is such a small issue but its annoying since i dont get full connection always and want to check whether i am getting 2g or 3g
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Hi,
I have the same problem in Spain, also using a VMNO and on stock ROM I also get the R.
When I was using customer made roms (Cyanogenmod or AOSP based) this did not happen as in the settings menu there was an option of setting National Roaming.
I am using another different device than yours (Xperia V), but it is a common problem. If anyone knows a solution, perhaps with an Xposed Module, or whatever it would be very helpful
Thanks
Same problem, I miss the data indicator while roaming
This app helped to solve my problem. It's a network monitor but it also indicates on which data network you're on.
It's called "2G 3G 4G LTE Network Monitor" available in Play Store
I have a similar problem. Not on an MVNO, but I'm using an unlimited Telmex plan in Mexico, which give lets me use my phone and data normally when roaming in Canada and US, so i really don't care to know that on roaming, but i would like to know what sort of data connection i have, if any.

[SOLVED] 3G consumes more battery than LTE, how this happens?

Hello XDA Community!
When my new phone (Huawei P9 Lite Mini) is on 3G/2G auto network mode, it consumes more battery than LTE/3G/2G auto mode even mobile data off.
I do not understand how this happens? For example, while 3G consumption at overnight is %10-15; LTE is only %2-3. This problem is the same in daytime too. Mobile data is off, unneccesary services/apps disabled, and no extra application installed while this happens. I tried all "wipe/factory reset/update firmware/factory reset/wipe/no app install" procedures, enabling all battery saving options, but it did not work. This is a problem for me when I'm in non-LTE areas.
This problem occurs the same result in different locations. There was no problem with my previous phone and I use same nano sim card.
I tried the following but it did not work:
- Wipe cache, factory reset, wipe cache,
- Wipe data/factory reset over recovery menu,
- Update latest firmware, wipe data etc. again.
How this happens and where am I doing wrong? Thank you for your help, best regards!
EDIT: PROBLEM SOLVED!
I changed my mobile carrier (provider) and the problem is gone. This is very interesting! I worked for hours and days to solve the problem, but this problem is neither caused by the phone nor by the software...
WCDMA (aka 3G with support for 2G/Edge) is in always-on mode on most phones, because that's how you receive and emit phone calls and, for most phones, SMS (in some more recent phones, LTE takes care of sending and receiving SMS/MMS), so if you're in an area where 3G/2G reception is poor, your phone has trouble locking on a cell with enough power to maintain contact, hence the battery drain.
4G/LTE only works for data, and voice if you have VoLTE (Voice over LTE) enabled, but works on a on-demand mode, even with cellular data constantly enabled. In other words, the 4G modem on your phone will memorize the latest position and IP address the nearest 4G tower/cell allocated it, and connect to it using the memorized settings when you need it to.
Not so with 3G, where DHCP doesn't exist, at least not the way it does in 4G: it uses PPP (Point-to-Point Protocol), where an ad-hoc IP address is attributed to each new connection, based on a pool of existing addresses allocated to the tower and its owner (carrier) by the authorities.
UglyStuff said:
WCDMA (aka 3G with support for 2G/Edge) is in always-on mode on most phones, because that's how you receive and emit phone calls and, for most phones, SMS (in some more recent phones, LTE takes care of sending and receiving SMS/MMS), so if you're in an area where 3G/2G reception is poor, your phone has trouble locking on a cell with enough power to maintain contact, hence the battery drain.
4G/LTE only works for data, and voice if you have VoLTE (Voice over LTE) enabled, but works on a on-demand mode, even with cellular data constantly enabled. In other words, the 4G modem on your phone will memorize the latest position and IP address the nearest 4G tower/cell allocated it, and connect to it using the memorized settings when you need it to.
Not so with 3G, where DHCP doesn't exist, at least not the way it does in 4G: it uses PPP (Point-to-Point Protocol), where an ad-hoc IP address is attributed to each new connection, based on a pool of existing addresses allocated to the tower and its owner (carrier) by the authorities.
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Thank you for your reply!
When I googled about 3G vs. LTE battery consumption, everyone says that LTE will consume more batteries. That's make sense on first thought. So what I've been through is very interesting to me.
I think about is there a problem with my phone's 3G antenna. (footnote: I don't know about that 3g and LTE antennas are same or seperate?)
But I understand that you say this is normal, right?
Edit: I found a forum that this problem may be due to the operator (carrier). I'm still investigating...
3G and 4G operate on basically the same principle: receiving and sending "information" via radio waves.
The difference lies in the frequencies each standard uses, the way the data sent over them is modulated and demodulated, and how handsets make and maintain connection, so if you stay in the same location, and set your phone to 3G-only, then switch Airplane mode on then off, it'll take your phone longer to reconnect to the 3G cell/tower with the strongest signal (not necessarily the closest to you), because it'll have to go through the whole getting-acquainted process again, whereas in 4G, it'll go straight to the "Hey, how do you do? Long time, no see".
Now, if your phone antenna has a problem, you could be standing a few feet from the tower, in line of sight, and still get a crappy to non-existent signal. How many bars are showing on your screen is just an indication of how well your phone is receiving the signal from the tower; it doesn't mean that this signal is consistent and steady, hence the bars coming and going in real time.
If I were you, I'd download and install the Hidden Settings app from the Play Store, and run it; there, you go to RadioInfo, and you'll get a lot of information about how your phone modem actually works. It's a bit technical, but it would give you an indication.
I will try and looking for a new carrier. Thank you again. See you.
I changed my mobile carrier (provider) and the problem is gone. This is very interesting! I worked for hours and days to solve the problem, but this problem is neither caused by the phone nor by the software...

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