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Need help determining the issue with battery life on my specific settings on my n5

Hi... So I'm not sure if its bad or just but I only get around 2~3hrs of screen on time on me n5!!! What all I've enabled and disabled are in the below list
Stock ROM and kernel, xposed and v4a
Auto brightness
High accuracy location settings
No haptic feedback
3G data with intermittent browsing...
18hrs+ on battery on the above said configuration
V4A and Google play music draining battery by 10℅ every 15mins even on power saving drivers
I greenify apps like messenger and all except WhatsApp...
I have only essential apps such as gravitybox notification mod lightflow etc...
I only use my phone intermittently... And that too for browsing and stuff... No games!!!
So according to this how much time of screen on time should I get?!?
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Sukrith said:
Hi... So I'm not sure if its bad or just but I only get around 2~3hrs of screen on time on me n5!!! What all I've enabled and disabled are in the below list
Stock ROM and kernel, xposed and v4a
Auto brightness
High accuracy location settings
No haptic feedback
3G data with intermittent browsing...
18hrs+ on battery on the above said configuration
V4A and Google play music draining battery by 10℅ every 15mins even on power saving drivers
I greenify apps like messenger and all except WhatsApp...
I have only essential apps such as gravitybox notification mod lightflow etc...
I only use my phone intermittently... And that too for browsing and stuff... No games!!!
So according to this how much time of screen on time should I get?!?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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there is no correct answer. your phone/data signal quality is all important in battery life. and only you know how youy personally use your device. anyways, disable autobrighness and set it below 30%

Try the first 4 posts in the battery thread in my signature. You can seek help there also, with the right screen shots, as shown in post 4.
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High accuracy location can be a drain. Poor signal as said by Mr. Simms can destroy a battery. And auto brightness is much more a drain than setting it manually and keeping as low as is comfortable.
Just a few things.

Sukrith said:
Hi... So I'm not sure if its bad or just but I only get around 2~3hrs of screen on time on me n5!!! What all I've enabled and disabled are in the below list
Stock ROM and kernel, xposed and v4a
Auto brightness
High accuracy location settings
No haptic feedback
3G data with intermittent browsing...
18hrs+ on battery on the above said configuration
V4A and Google play music draining battery by 10℅ every 15mins even on power saving drivers
I greenify apps like messenger and all except WhatsApp...
I have only essential apps such as gravitybox notification mod lightflow etc...
I only use my phone intermittently... And that too for browsing and stuff... No games!!!
So according to this how much time of screen on time should I get?!?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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High accuracy locations, auto brightness, using data instead of WiFi, gravitybox, lightflow, V4A. You're actually getting good battery life considering, you shouldn't expect much more with those settings.
Easiest things to change would be: use WiFi, and manually set your brightness below 50% indoors, 20-30% is ideal.

KJ said:
Try the first 4 posts in the battery thread in my signature. You can seek help there also, with the right screen shots, as shown in post 4.
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High accuracy location can be a drain. Poor signal as said by Mr. Simms can destroy a battery. And auto brightness is much more a drain than setting it manually and keeping as low as is comfortable.
Just a few things.
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bblzd said:
High accuracy locations, auto brightness, using data instead of WiFi, gravitybox, lightflow, V4A. You're actually getting good battery life considering, you shouldn't expect much more with those settings.
Easiest things to change would be: use WiFi, and manually set your brightness below 50% indoors, 20-30% is ideal.
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KJ said:
Try the first 4 posts in the battery thread in my signature. You can seek help there also, with the right screen shots, as shown in post 4.
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High accuracy location can be a drain. Poor signal as said by Mr. Simms can destroy a battery. And auto brightness is much more a drain than setting it manually and keeping as low as is comfortable.
Just a few things.
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bblzd said:
High accuracy locations, auto brightness, using data instead of WiFi, gravitybox, lightflow, V4A. You're actually getting good battery life considering, you shouldn't expect much more with those settings.
Easiest things to change would be: use WiFi, and manually set your brightness below 50% indoors, 20-30% is ideal.
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I think v4a is a major cause... I charge it fully in the morning and when I listen to it for say 15mins... 10℅ or so battery is drained!!! And how does gravity box drain ones battery?!? I also don't have WiFi... Only 3G data from carrier...
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Without meaningful screen shots, everyone here will just be tossing guesses at you in afraid. ?

[Q] A solution for nlp wakelocks without Xposed and Greenify

Hi.
I have several nlp wakelocks, even with the phone idling at the same frigging place. It gets ridiculous when I'm on the move (like, 100 to 0 in 12 hours with absolutely no usage)
When I was on kitkat, I used an Xposed module that controlled the ratio of polling (Amplify, if I'm not wrong), but at Lollipop, there is no Xposed, so I had to cripple the phone a little and use Greenify on Play Services, which worked Ok when set to always ignore its state.
But now I subscribed to Google Play Music All Access, and when I turn the phone screen off, it gets killed as soon as Greenify hibernates Google Play Services. Removing it from Greenify brings all the battery drain hell back (it wakes my phone 10 times per minute. It's ridiculous)
I've tried changing ROMs, swapping Play versions, and even returning this phone. But it always get tens of thousands wakelocks after some hours, and Play Services sometimes gets more usage percentage than my Quad HD screen (this means it uses a ridiculous amount of power)
Is there any way known to man that fixes this dammed nlp wakelocks without resorting to Xposed?
And without disabling stuff and all.
I know that setting it to only use the device GPS fixes it, but it brings another problem, that when something (like weather or whatsapp, for some reason) needs location, and I'm indoors, it will suck my battery away while looking for a very unnecessarily, precise location. So that's not an option, unfortunately.
Thanks in advance
Tapatalked thru my LG G3

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You can try "Disable Services" on the Play store. Pick System apps, scroll down to Google Play services and then deselect NlpLocationReceiverServices.

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So I've been browsing for the past 2 hours on wifi and these are my stats.
Battery: 2200 mAh
SoC: Extremely Power Hungry MT6591
Brightness: Adequate

Now at 35%, the phone was being used pretty much constantly (chrome, a movie in mx player, imgur, 2 hours on whatsapp, light CoC)
Here are the results.

19%. And this is the max I could manage. Going to plugin now.

Testing out now...Thanks!!
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Adithya FRK said:
Blue Blood Modified Battery Profile (SOT) for L Speed + GovTuner
NOTE: This profile and the configurations for GovTuner is entirely based upon the need for more SOT or 'screen-on-time'. Performance improvements are not the 'primary' objective, but there are some.
Name: Sorry but I couldn't make up a better one. LOL.
This profile will try its best to give you a better screen on time taking into consideration there will be some decrease in performance (some visible, some not).
Installation Instructions
Part 1 - L Speed
1. Download the .zip file attached.
2. Open it with any file manager/archiver and you should see the profile file.
3. Goto your SD Card -> LSpeedBackup (create folder if it doesn't exist) and paste the file inside the .zip there.
4. Open L Speed -> Backup -> Restore: Blue Blood.
L Speed's done.
Part 2 - GovTuner
1. Visit GovTuner​'s XDA thread and download the latest zip file.
2. Flash the zip file and install 'Terminal Emulator' from playstore.
3. Open 'Terminal Emulator', and type 'su' and enter. Grant the SuperSU request and you will now be in a root shell.
4. Now type 'govtuner' and enter.
5. Choose battery profile by typing '1' and touching enter.
6. After activating battery profile, enter 'i' and enter '2' as the value.
7. Now you can press the 'X' on the top right hand corner to close the window.
GovTuner is now all setup.
You are pretty much ready now. Enjoy your extra SOT!!
I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND USING AppOpsXposed, Greenify, Amplify and Powernap with this to get rid of the idle drain because in the end that too translate to a better SOT. :highfive: (The below results are obtained with the help of those applications too)
My phone which is an extremely battery hungry thing needs to be charged atleast 3 times a day to last from morning to night. With this I've managed to get away with just 1 charge for 14 hours (4-4.5 hours of SOT vs 1-2 hours).
Please do reply back with your experiences. I'm waiting for some happy faces. :fingers-crossed:
Also criticisms. :angel:
Credits: Debuffer (GovTuner), Paget96 (L Speed)
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Any alternatives to AppOpsXposed, Amplify and Powernap that don't require Xposed?? Already use Greenify and Servicely.

jeraspie28 said:
Testing out now...Thanks!!
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Any alternatives to AppOpsXposed, Amplify and Powernap that don't require Xposed?? Already use Greenify and Servicely.
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You can use AppOps from play store which doesn't need xposed. Alternatives to Powernap? Naptime works. Amplify doesn't have an alternative to my knowledge sorry

Hey, thanks for sharing this! Much needed​ for my phone htc desire 816 (a5dwg) running lineage 7.1.1 and at any rom, it is hungry. I mean literally I've purchased a new original 2600mAh battery for this reason. Still the problem persists. Today only, I've charged the phone to full and kept it on airplane and silent (took the phone to school ), and found that after 3 hours, battery is 20-25% reduced. I'm a little noob that's why I'm asking you that "what are the steps that should be followed / apps to be installed to maintain the battery like yours
Thanks in advance ?

singhjot0020 said:
Hey, thanks for sharing this! Much needed​ for my phone htc desire 816 (a5dwg) running lineage 7.1.1 and at any rom, it is hungry. I mean literally I've purchased a new original 2600mAh battery for this reason. Still the problem persists. Today only, I've charged the phone to full and kept it on airplane and silent (took the phone to school ), and found that after 3 hours, battery is 20-25% reduced. I'm a little noob that's why I'm asking you that "what are the steps that should be followed / apps to be installed to maintain the battery like yours
Thanks in advance ?
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Glad I can help. Something is keeping your phone awake all that time that its's not going to deep sleep. That's mostly Google to blame but let's start with the basics
Before that don't call yourself a noob. You got a custom ROM running, most people I know can't even do that.
To fix Idle Drain
First find if you have Idle drain.
Install Better Battery Stats and open it, grant root etc. Now plug the phone to the charger and hit refresh. Now unplug the charger, turn the screen off for a minute or so.
Now turn it on, you should see the device state. If it says Deep Sleep 0%, then the below things can help you.
Disable background Wi-Fi scanning.
Your phone scans for WiFi even when you turn it off. The steps below are based on my Lollipop 5.1, but I believe it's the same on 7.1 too.
Goto Settings -> Wifi -> The three buttons on the top right -> Advanced
There disable 'Network Notifications', 'Scanning Always Available' and 'Keep Wifi awake during sleep'.
Greenify
You must already be using this.
As a rule of thumb, greenify any app which requires an internet connection, those keep waking the system over and over again. Just make sure you don't add any core system apps.
If you have Facebook's app installed, remove it. It's the biggest battery hogging app ever happened (i don't agree that's made) in human history. Use it in chrome. Or any wrapper apps from Play store: Metal, Friendly are a few options.
If you have xposed installed,
Powernap
Set it to endurance mode and that's all. Whitelist amplify, greenify and lspeed. You can whitelist more apps later if you feel the need.
Amplify
This is a must in reducing wakelocks. Unfortunately I can't write the whole procedure here because it's been done before. Check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Still, every phone is unique. After following that thread, IF your device still isn't sleeping (after trying the below too), try blocking more wakelocks. Do a search if you are not sure of a particular wakelock. It will take some time, but it will be worth it.
AppOpsXposed
You can disable some of Google's data collection and analytics whatever stuff using this. Follow this nice thread. It helps massively.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/existenz-hacks-tweaks-battery-life-t3516705
If you have managed to get that deep sleep in BetterBatteryStats almost 90% of the time the screen was off, then congratulations you have fixed your Idle drain.
Reply back with your experiences. :fingers-crossed:

Adithya FRK said:
Glad I can help. Something is keeping your phone awake all that time that its's not going to deep sleep. That's mostly Google to blame but let's start with the basics
Before that don't call yourself a noob. You got a custom ROM running, most people I know can't even do that.
To fix Idle Drain
First find if you have Idle drain.
Install Better Battery Stats and open it, grant root etc. Now plug the phone to the charger and hit refresh. Now unplug the charger, turn the screen off for a minute or so.
Now turn it on, you should see the device state. If it says Deep Sleep 0%, then the below things can help you.
Disable background Wi-Fi scanning.
Your phone scans for WiFi even when you turn it off. The steps below are based on my Lollipop 5.1, but I believe it's the same on 7.1 too.
Goto Settings -> Wifi -> The three buttons on the top right -> Advanced
There disable 'Network Notifications', 'Scanning Always Available' and 'Keep Wifi awake during sleep'.
Greenify
You must already be using this.
As a rule of thumb, greenify any app which requires an internet connection, those keep waking the system over and over again. Just make sure you don't add any core system apps.
If you have Facebook's app installed, remove it. It's the biggest battery hogging app ever happened (i don't agree that's made) in human history. Use it in chrome. Or any wrapper apps from Play store: Metal, Friendly are a few options.
If you have xposed installed,
Powernap
Set it to endurance mode and that's all. You can whitelist apps later if you feel the need.
Amplify
This is a must in reducing wakelocks. Unfortunately I can't write the whole procedure here because it's been done before. Check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Still, every phone is unique. After following that thread, IF your device still isn't sleeping (after trying the below too), try blocking more wakelocks. Do a search if you are not sure of a particular wakelock. It will take some time, but it will be worth it.
AppOpsXposed
You can disable some of Google's data collection and analytics whatever stuff using this. Follow this nice thread. It helps massively.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/existenz-hacks-tweaks-battery-life-t3516705
If you have managed to get that deep sleep in BetterBatteryStats almost 90% of the time the screen was off, then congratulations you have fixed your Idle drain.
Reply back with your experiences. :fingers-crossed:
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Thankyou so much, will try this surely ?

Adithya FRK said:
Glad I can help. Something is keeping your phone awake all that time that its's not going to deep sleep. That's mostly Google to blame but let's start with the basics
Before that don't call yourself a noob. You got a custom ROM running, most people I know can't even do that.
To fix Idle Drain
First find if you have Idle drain.
Install Better Battery Stats and open it, grant root etc. Now plug the phone to the charger and hit refresh. Now unplug the charger, turn the screen off for a minute or so.
Now turn it on, you should see the device state. If it says Deep Sleep 0%, then the below things can help you.
Disable background Wi-Fi scanning.
Your phone scans for WiFi even when you turn it off. The steps below are based on my Lollipop 5.1, but I believe it's the same on 7.1 too.
Goto Settings -> Wifi -> The three buttons on the top right -> Advanced
There disable 'Network Notifications', 'Scanning Always Available' and 'Keep Wifi awake during sleep'.
Greenify
You must already be using this.
As a rule of thumb, greenify any app which requires an internet connection, those keep waking the system over and over again. Just make sure you don't add any core system apps.
If you have Facebook's app installed, remove it. It's the biggest battery hogging app ever happened (i don't agree that's made) in human history. Use it in chrome. Or any wrapper apps from Play store: Metal, Friendly are a few options.
If you have xposed installed,
Powernap
Set it to endurance mode and that's all. You can whitelist apps later if you feel the need.
Amplify
This is a must in reducing wakelocks. Unfortunately I can't write the whole procedure here because it's been done before. Check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Still, every phone is unique. After following that thread, IF your device still isn't sleeping (after trying the below too), try blocking more wakelocks. Do a search if you are not sure of a particular wakelock. It will take some time, but it will be worth it.
AppOpsXposed
You can disable some of Google's data collection and analytics whatever stuff using this. Follow this nice thread. It helps massively.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/existenz-hacks-tweaks-battery-life-t3516705
If you have managed to get that deep sleep in BetterBatteryStats almost 90% of the time the screen was off, then congratulations you have fixed your Idle drain.
Reply back with your experiences. :fingers-crossed:
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I've installed "L Speed" and greenify from play store
& I've shred my stats. Pls look and suggest improvements

singhjot0020 said:
I've installed "L Speed" and greenify from play store
& I've shred my stats. Pls look and suggest improvements
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Can you also post a screenshot of your battery stats

Adithya FRK said:
Can you also post a screenshot of your battery stats
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Sorry, I've switched to stock to check battery capabilities but still problem persists
Battery droppes from 100 to 83 in 30-35 minutes

in govtuner change the gov to ondemand, i guess u use perfomance.

What can I do, I got a notification that L speed us eating my battery...but if optimized will not work as it should right?
Today update my Rom and got error. Not working because if use 3th party kernel ini.t emulator...but I'm not using one.

Sir_gpm said:
What can I do, I got a notification that L speed us eating my battery...but if optimized will not work as it should right?
Today update my Rom and got error. Not working because if use 3th party kernel ini.t emulator...but I'm not using one.
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What ROM are you using?

FreedomOS for oneplus 3t.

@Adithya FRK
Choosing battery profile from govtuner is the same as choosing it from Lspeed CPU menu, right? Or is there some significant change between the two?

ninjanmizuki said:
@Adithya FRK
Choosing battery profile from govtuner is the same as choosing it from Lspeed CPU menu, right? Or is there some significant change between the two?
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Both are the same. See post #2 of GovTuner's official thread here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mod-gov-tuner-project-29th-june-2016-t3407828
But don't enable both of them at the same time.

After 1 whole month of tweaking with various functions of L Speed, finally found a combination to improve the battery even more.
BlueBlood v2.1 (Download link in Post #1)
Tested on L Speed Beta from Play Store.

Adithya FRK said:
After 1 whole month of tweaking with various functions of L Speed, finally found a combination to improve the battery even more.
BlueBlood v2.1 (Download link in Post #1)
Tested on L Speed Beta from Play Store.
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Sir, can u share your KA settings, such as your govenor, i/o
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General optimization settings and tweaks

This is all the things I have done to my P20 Pro CLT-L04 before and after a factory reset.
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USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
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Full backup to google drive from Google services backup now.
Backup of Nova launcher to google drive.
Check for EMUI update.
Factory reset.
Full Google restore
Reboot
install GDialer from https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-phone-v14-0-175904292-bubble-t3708218 and change settings to make it default (Default Apps) and Display over other apps, write system settings and turn off power consumption alert and disable App launch automatically manage from the App Info dialog under Apps in setttings.
Remove or disable the folowing apps if you want (USB Debugging enabled):
adb uninstall --user 0 com.android.calendar
adb uninstall --user 0 com.android.contacts
adb uninstall --user 0 com.microsoft.translator
adb uninstall --user 0 com.android.email
adb uninstall --user 0 com.huawei.search
adb uninstall --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher (Only if you have replacement home launcher and it will revert to cards flip recents)
Change Battery Optimization settings for apps you use the most like phone, messages etc
Do the same for app launch
Darken interface colors
Set resolution to FHD not smart
Clear and update AGPS with GPS Test
Disable and enable GPS tag in camera app so it doesn't show China as location.
Enable fingerprint unlock
Enable always on display
Disable smart cover.
Disable smart screenshot
Enable motion control, pick up, wake device
Disable split screen gesture
Disable quick call voice control
In color mode and temperature change to color temperature to normal, natural tone and eye comfort schedule
Disable start up sound
Notifications, lock screen notifications show but hide
Enable face recognition and select slide to unlock and smart lock screen notifications
Change the render settings in developer options to .5
Turn off Display carrier name
Clear the cache partition using the start by holding volume up and power buttons
This is a work in progress...
Cheers!

Optimise for what? Battery or Performance?

The Restless Soul said:
Optimise for what? Battery or Performance?
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Both and for my personal preferences. I figured this would be obvious upon reading the post but maybe I should change the title.

AnTuTu benchmark

What kind of SOT are you experiencing? I've never really reached consistent SOTs like my OnePlus 5.
Wouldn't you just remove these using titanium ?
Be easier.
PS: gave you a thanks.. I know this took time

dladz said:
What kind of SOT are you experiencing? I've never really reached consistent SOTs like my OnePlus 5.
Wouldn't you just remove these using titanium ?
Be easier.
PS: gave you a thanks.. I know this took time
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Haven't had time to do SOT but seems the same as factory. Device is so fast now even without performance mode. I didn't try titanium as I am not rooted and really didn't even think about that. Appreciate your comments.
Cheers

Here's a general day of use...

grantdb said:
Here's a general day of use...
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I have the same SOT in a full work day (8am-19am) always on 4G data, GPS on and at least 1:30 hours of Spotify. When I'm at home, I can easily reach 7-8 hours of SOT... My phone is 1 year old. I just removed the app you suggested cause I hate that silly bug that affects the "recent app" screen while using a 3rd party launcher

Palm PVG100 - Battery Life - A Fix!

Hi All,
I've had appalling battery life for a while typically dropping 30% in 3hrs and 90% overnight with the screen off, the software as clean as I could get it (all Google apps disabled) and wifi/bluetooth off. Despite this I couldn't fix the unreasonable drain. There wasn't anything obvious in adb logcat either which suggested something was going on when disconnected from a power source.
Anyhow, I've now solved it. Overnight I got a drain from 100% to, wait for it... 98%!
Here's how to do it. First if you use Google Play Services (or the apps that rely on it) you're out of luck - so try to consider alternative apps.
Enable development mode.
Run the following in an adb shell to clear out verizon crap.
Code:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.verizon.cloudsetupwizard'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.verizon.mips.services'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.vzw.hss.myverizon'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.jrd.verizonuriintentservice'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.verizon.llkagent'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.vzw.apnlib'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.vzw.hss.myverizon'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.tcl.vzwintents'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.tct.vzwwifioffload'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.vzw.ecid'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.vzw.easvalidation'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.customermobile.preload.vzw'
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.vcast.mediamanager'
Then disable all the Google/Verizon apps including Google Play. You can use F-Droid to install Aurora for Google Play access without the overhead. I installed a lot of open source replacements via F-Droid like "OpenLauncher" for the home, QKSMS for messages, OsmAnd for GPS navigation at this point.
Google Play Services can't be disabled normally and this is the battery killer. I theorise there's another system app using this framework and that is actually responsible for the battery drain. Disabling Google Play Services would stop this app from running. Go to Settings -> Security & Location -> Device Administrators & disable Google Play Services. You'll now find Google Play Services can be disabled in Apps.
Your phone will be fairly clean at this point and you should see a massive gain in battery life, I sure have.
Cheers,
Andrew

Thanks for your post! I think this will become the most important topic, battery life. I have to say I'm also able to get amazing life without removing Google Play Services. What OS Revision (update level) are you at? I'm at 1AMD. Since the 1AMD update (I think this is the 3rd update), everything has been much better battery wise. However I'm using LifeMode, have Accubattery and Greenify, and I also close ALL apps before I power off the screen. I think you'll find prior to 1AMD update you will be racking your brain on what causes the Battery Drain. I'd sometimes get 4-5 days with minimal use, I'd sometimes get a few hours. 1AMD is much more reliable.
That being said, let's see how we can optimize without removing google play services (removal of Verizon bloatware is totally cool), as 99% of the users on here are not going to remove Google Play Services).
1. Are you using Lifemode?
2. Are you saying Google Play Services are draining the battery when the screen is off?
3. What apps are you using to monitor the battery drain.
4. Which Build Number are you using on your phone?
- Ben

Here's a screenshot of my use right now. No mods, update 1AMD

bensdeals said:
Here's a screenshot of my use right now. No mods, update 1AMD
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Guys, it's not a matter of the update, or better, they might have set something the the apps behavior to convince us that we should upgrade to 1AMD version, because (is it by casualty?...) the battery problems came at once to me and other users at the same time when Verizon released 1AMD!
Does anyone have any news from deadman96385 , who said he would have released his guide to root the phone?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80866785&postcount=45
Here he says: "But if i can't figure it out this week i'll release my current method so at least there will be something for people to use." on the 12th of November 2019...

I have changed nothing with my phone since the update. It absolutely has better battery life, however this is likely fixes with Lifemode or something else. I wouldn't state that the updates don't fix battery drain issues, because that is not correct.

bensdeals said:
I have changed nothing with my phone since the update. It absolutely has better battery life, however this is likely fixes with Lifemode or something else. I wouldn't state that the updates don't fix battery drain issues, because that is not correct.
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WARNING! Updating to that patch probably fixes the vulnerability to the ONLY EXPLOIT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO ROOT THE PHONE, RENDERING THE ROOT IMPOSSIBLE!

Thats fine. Many people dont care about root. This is strictly a Battery Life thread for anyone regardless of root, not just future rooter/bootloader unlockers. this is important, as the device is still supported and updates are rolling out.
many people will get the phone at this patch/update level.

The phone continues to infuriate. I had it perfect and then last night the phone drained again from 100% to 0%. The night before it only lost 2%. I have nothing installed, it's the cleanest I can get it without root. I don't use lifemode but background data sync is off.
I'm on v2AGA-0. I'm unable to update, perhaps because I'm in the UK, though root may become important later on if the phone continues it's quirks.
Palm support is non existent.

N/A, unable to delete.

Another night of spectacularly low usage, woke up and still on 100%! Not realistic but the algorithm will be taking into consideration the high usage of the night before. I better not touch anything now.

Still looking good. I have confirmed one problem area though.
If you're using the phone for USB tethering and put the pc/laptop to sleep it will probably reset the enumeration into power only mode. When tethering the phone doesn't reconnect into power only mode and causes a serious power drain (about 15% per hour). I've no idea why but it's consistent and maybe this is why they hid the tethering support. Be sure to unplug the phone or disable tethering before putting the pc/laptop into standby.

Seems mine gets stabilized after wiping cache partition in recovery mode. 8-10% loss overnight now. It was more than 80% loss due to cell standby process.

I've got a question for you -
In Accubattery, "Health" tab, what mAh does it say for the "Designed capacith"?
And, what does it say for the "Estimated capacity"?
bensdeals said:
Thanks for your post! I think this will become the most important topic, battery life. I have to say I'm also able to get amazing life without removing Google Play Services. What OS Revision (update level) are you at? I'm at 1AMD. Since the 1AMD update (I think this is the 3rd update), everything has been much better battery wise. However I'm using LifeMode, have Accubattery and Greenify, and I also close ALL apps before I power off the screen. I think you'll find prior to 1AMD update you will be racking your brain on what causes the Battery Drain. I'd sometimes get 4-5 days with minimal use, I'd sometimes get a few hours. 1AMD is much more reliable.
That being said, let's see how we can optimize without removing google play services (removal of Verizon bloatware is totally cool), as 99% of the users on here are not going to remove Google Play Services).
1. Are you using Lifemode?
2. Are you saying Google Play Services are draining the battery when the screen is off?
3. What apps are you using to monitor the battery drain.
4. Which Build Number are you using on your phone?
- Ben
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Just used your list to remove the bloat, but the "pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.vzw.hss.myverizon'" command failed. I can see it and disable it still, just not sure what user it's installed for after the latest update.

One more app you can remove is the Verizon Location Agent, specially if you are not on Verizon.
What is Verizon location?
Verizon Smart Family is a service that offers location services and parental controls for all of your family members' phones. Refer to the Verizon Smart Family FAQs for more information about this service. You can manage Verizon Smart Family through My Verizon's website or through the Verizon Smart Family app.
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package:/vendor/priv-app/Verizon_LocationAgent_vzw_v0.0.3.120_Production_NoDebug_release_signed.apk=com.telecomsys.directedsms.android.SCG
To uninstall run this in adb shell
Code:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 'com.telecomsys.directedsms.android.SCG'

So after removing all the VZW apps the phone is still eating the battery like pac-man. This morning I woke up and the phone was at 32% after leaving it charged to 100% right before I went to sleep (10pm-5:30am typically). After checking the battery I am seeing the following eating up the battery ”Mobile Network Standby” for 66% and system and apps were 1% each. This is completely unsatisfactory, but also a bug with Oreo. For the record I am running stock right now and also using the 2AGG version of the ROM with Straight Talk carrier.
I have configured the following settings to see if this helps at all and will report back.
Setting #1
Settings --> Security location --> Location (under Privacy) --> Scanning. I then disabled both Wi-Fi- and bluetooth scanning.
Setting #2
Enable Developer Options and then un-checked Mobile data always active.
UPDATE: So after making those changes the device has been idle for 10h 52m and it's at 80%. It as has dropped 17%for the Cellular network standby and 1% for apps. It's showing the phone can be idle for another 2 days left which is much more respectable. I think these settings accompanied by removing the VZW apps makes this a closer to daily driver for sure. I hope this post was helpful to others on the board. I will be spending my time now on development on the device starting with looking at the source code that was released by Palm. I will be creating a new post once I make some head way.

Mine has gone back to terrible. Although I have mobile data on I'm using very little of it. While on a cycle ride I lost 45% in 4hrs.
I suspect the battery has had it.

snoopy20 said:
Mine has gone back to terrible. Although I have mobile data on I'm using very little of it. While on a cycle ride I lost 45% in 4hrs.
I suspect the battery has had it.
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I have got pretty random stats: sometimes it 5% per night, or 12%. Last day i got 50% discharge during 3 hours afk on the table (every app was closed).
So it's not might be a battery. Try out AccuBattery for a few days to check charge\discharge rates and cappasity.
There can be a problem with the firmware itself I imagine.

I've ran Accubattery and there's nothing running. My suspicion is is Android isn't working out the % properly as it's based on the charge capacity over time. Degraded batteries don't have a linear discharge rate.
Palm support got back to me, recommended a Morph Juice battery. Useless as always.

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I've ran Accubattery and there's nothing running. My suspicion is is Android isn't working out the % properly as it's based on the charge capacity over time. Degraded batteries don't have a linear discharge rate.
Palm support got back to me, recommended a Morph Juice battery. Useless as always.
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What % wear do you have under health in accubattery?