My battery has gone weird! - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Charge to 100% and turned OFF, not standby... over night it went to below 0% (to the point where the charge bar on the screen was red and it took about 10 minutes of charging to make it start showing the green charging animation)
Then, when fully charged, I used it for a little app installing, some basic games, just farting about for two hours - and the battery went from 100% to 82% over that time.
How the hell does it lose 100%+ power when turned off but I can use it for two hours on 20% battery loss??? Time for a new battery, I guess?

It depends how u even charge it.

It matter that much? I just plug it into one of these:
RAVPower 4 Port USB Charger (1 Quick Charge 3.0 Port) Charging Station
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I think it's not an original battery anyway - I managed to get the back off with just fingernails under the edges.
I'll get a new battery and bung it in..

Update:
nah... I think the phone is faulty, somehow.
New battery - charged up 100%..
Phone off, left overnight, checked about 24 hours after charge - still 100%
Phone turned on, used a little until battery showed 92% then turned off again.
FOUR hours later, phone turned on and the battery showed 7%, FFS!!
Sony is becoming a watchword for "****e" in my book....
I think I'll have fun with the phone - take it for a drive and throw it under a road works roadroller... see how flat it can get!

Update:
Sadly, I couldn't find a road roller (dozens of road works... but no one actually doing any bloody work!!) -- so i got a Co-Op truck driver to drive over it, he was happy to, he'd had the exact same issues with his Z3 (small world).
I'd like to say it died a graceful death... well... actually... no, I wouldn't! I hope it died in agony!
"Bwaaa hahahaha!!!
Bloody evil battery sucking POS!!
The screen is interesting - it;s about 8 layers of different things..
There's a matrix layout - possibly the actual display panel itself..
A few layers of transparent stuff that looks like protective sleeving to stop abrasion.
A highly reflective layer - but in the middle.... and another one right at the back. Odd!
And a weird layer which refracts and magnifies the image - when I looked through it at my fingers, they were magnified AND offset to the left AND all wibbly.. I can't understand the point of that part...
Anyway, all dead now - the chips weren't damaged so I took it home and smashed them with a hammer.. Felt good... really good!

battery weird
Fluffbutt said:
Update:
Sadly, I couldn't find a road roller (dozens of road works... but no one actually doing any bloody work!!) -- so i got a Co-Op truck driver to drive over it, he was happy to, he'd had the exact same issues with his Z3 (small world).
I'd like to say it died a graceful death... well... actually... no, I wouldn't! I hope it died in agony!
"Bwaaa hahahaha!!!
Bloody evil battery sucking POS!!
The screen is interesting - it;s about 8 layers of different things..
There's a matrix layout - possibly the actual display panel itself..
A few layers of transparent stuff that looks like protective sleeving to stop abrasion.
A highly reflective layer - but in the middle.... and another one right at the back. Odd!
And a weird layer which refracts and magnifies the image - when I looked through it at my fingers, they were magnified AND offset to the left AND all wibbly.. I can't understand the point of that part...
Anyway, all dead now - the chips weren't damaged so I took it home and smashed them with a hammer.. Felt good... really good!
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sme problem replaced the battery and now volume button does work....arrrrrrrrrrr

June - that might have been done when the back was prised off - the volumes are near the edge where you have to work the back plate off.
If you can still get the back off - try this: back off, turn phone on, listen to music (so you can monitor volume) then gently wriggle the button as you press it.
You might just have broken a teeny little solder joint between the button and the wires.

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Getting the most from your battery :)

found this vid on youtube. you must be rooted to install set CPU, but its worth it. i'm goign to be testing my gains today since i can see big gains being made while the phone is in standby mode especially.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt3H75qnupA
what other tips do you guys have?
can you do this with the captivate? what are the overclock speeds?
I installed set cpu on my captivate and it has dramatically increased my battery time
i thought set cpu was crashing captivates? how's it been going for you guys?
I've got it on mine and it hasn't crashed. I will note however, that if you go too low for the Max speed, this phone will come to a crawl. I had mine set at 400/200 for battery <20%, and it had trouble coming out of the lock screen. Did some tweaking but my batter is almost dead anyways, so I will have to comment on it tomorrow.
I'm debating if I want to get JuiceDefender or not. It's a good program, but the "turn off data" for 15 mins is what's getting me. I text and Google Talk alot, so I may just download the program and use it while I'm at work, then disable it when I get home.
i thought this was a waste since the phone will go down to 100mhz on its own to conserve power?
it will but when you are using it, it can climb up to 1000 wasting power. Nothing on the android should really require that much horsepower atm
a simple approach i started using on an earlier smartphone, was a wallpaper that was predominantly black - considering the display is the predominant battery drain
i've been using this one, just enough going on to be visually intriguing but not take a lot of juice - whenever i look around for wallpapers, i keep coming back to this one - once i've seen a new wallpaper for a day or so, i've bored of it. Plus my flip clock widget, i set it with transparent background and transparent digit plates, to minimize the white display
i've posted the full size image in case anyone wants to copy
the other nice part, for me, the widgets are easy to discern
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larryccf said:
a simple approach i started using on an earlier smartphone, was a wallpaper that was predominantly black - considering the display is the predominant battery drain
i've been using this one, just enough going on to be visually intriguing but not take a lot of juice - whenever i look around for wallpapers, i keep coming back to this one - once i've seen a new wallpaper for a day or so, i've bored of it. Plus my flip clock widget, i set it with transparent background and transparent digit plates, to minimize the white display
i've posted the full size image in case anyone wants to copy
the other nice part, for me, the widgets are easy to discern
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+1 to this post.
Very good approach to conserving power, since, according to the phone itself, the display usually takes up a high percentage of its battery life. This wallpaper is also really good, because not only is it predominantly black, but the main color is red, which drains the least amount of life of all colors.
Think I might try that once I get my brick working or trade it in for a new one...
domin8 said:
found this vid on youtube. you must be rooted to install set CPU, but its worth it. i'm goign to be testing my gains today since i can see big gains being made while the phone is in standby mode especially.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt3H75qnupA
what other tips do you guys have?
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So when i try and use SetCPU (which is supposedly the most effective power saver) I get around 500 mhz... That being said, I wasn't using the new 2.0.1 version. Is there support for Captivates in newer versions? I need help with this >.< My battery isn't lasting nearly long enough for me, and I really want to get close to 25 hours with heavy usage on my captivate (or close to) as Carlos suggested in his video.
Thanks.

Aftermarket Docks And Fun With Tasker / Smart Connect

I bought numerous docks off amazon. They all are coming from China so I figured I'd order a few from different places and see what happens. Estimated delivery on the first dock was end of October and I recieved it the 19th of Sept.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D7VDPQ0/ref=cm_cr_ryp_prd_ttl_sol_6
I got two from these guys and they are awesome. Very basic and simple, but the phone seats nice and snuggly with a full Skinomi CF skin applied and SP on front. They come with a somewhat short cable. They do not have a weight inside to give them that sturdy heavy feel, but this doesnt bother me, gives them a cheap feel but when you think that a chunk of pot metal inside means nothing then it's easy to accept. I have a few more coming in due time but so far I am very happy with these. They come in Black, White, and Purple. I ordered two black. I keep one on the night side stand and one beside my recliner. I will update with photos if there is any interest and also update with other docks as they come trickling in.
So on to the what we do with them part. This all started when I read the DIY dock topic. I built one and boy did it suck. So I said screw it, $15 and I can have one. I just wanted to charge without having to pick at that dump little flap with my gorilla hands but once I got to realize the possibilities it went crazy from there. I originally started with Sonys built in Smart Connect app but quickly outgrew it within an hour as I expected more and more out of it so I went back to an app I havnt used in years, Tasker. Smart connect is decent if you want some basic to mid level routines executed though. I had it set to
When Docked Between 1800 to 0600=Turn on BT>Connect to BT speaker>Launch Lightening Bug app> lower phone and notification volumes>Brightness to 50%
At End=Read Time>Raise all volumes to Max>Brightness to 100%>BT Off
Plus other variations on the above based on times (which covered if I was docked at bed or by chair)
However the Lightening bug app still kept going which is annoying since there is no (as far as i know) kill option for the at end. Tasker can be simple or complex, depending how far you want to push it. Im playing with plugins now trying to get it to recognize the dock state. Thoughts? Anyone else get a bit nutty with automating routines? Is this being discussed elsewhere and I need to STFU and go away?
**Edited title since I have more to add after getting spun up on tasker last night.
So I know there are others far more versed in the ways of Tasker than I, but I havnt seen any real discussions. Here's what I set up last night.
My Profiles (Think of as conditions to be met that trigger tasks)
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And these are my tasks, or actions. When a Profile is met, such as phone docked, then the linked task will be executed.
So the profile Dock Night (obvious bad pun intended), named because I plan to set up other dock profiles for work based on either time or location or other variable. Dock Desk Dock is the condition that must me met. Dock Desk is what and the second Dock means in rather than out of the dock. When this profile is met it runs the Night Dock task, which is a series of predefined actions. Lets look at those.
This one is very simple one once you know where to look for all the right pieces. I had to download a plugin for Tasker called Locale Dock Condition that easily allows tasker to see and work with dock states.
When inserted into dock it will:
Lower notification volume (3/7) for those middle of the night emails and texts
Sets brightness to Auto
Speaks outloud text indicating its in dock mode, something i admittedly threw in just to hear it.
Turns on BT which inturn connects to my BT speaker by the bed.
Loads App that plays the sounds for night time and locks display on for clock.
All of this happens nearly instantly and is awesome for not having to do stuff constantly. I have others that when you turn the display on it snaps a picture giving me a album full of selfies but the occasional shot of someone looking at my phone, usually wife. And others for when the passcode is entered wrongly. 2 times it snaps severals pictures and auto uploads to drop box. 5 wrong attempts it begins recording audio for 15 minutes and this too will be uploaded to dropbox.
Is there a way to configure the forced auto rotation in dock mode to be turned off?
If the phones docked even if I have auto rotation turned off in settings it just ignores it and rotates anyway.

[Q] Changed the main flex ribbon cable and its panel, touch screen error.

Hi,
My wifi and bt modules didn't work for the past two months, and after searching trough the Q&A forums, I came to the conclusion that I have to change the ribbon cable, perhaps thats the problem.
So, I've ordered the panel, and it arrived yesterday, it was this piece:
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I've swapped it with the old panel, phone fired up nicely, I even saw the BT connections logo appear on the status bar. Yay.
But.
The touch screen doesn't register my touches anywhere on the screen. I've checked the connections, everything connects good.
I've dismissed the idea of a faulty digitizer, since before the ribbon cable/panel switch, everything was working as it's supposed to be.
I'm fully out of ideas, so I'm doing these steps as a last resort: (I'm currently at the third step)
1. Discharge the phone all the way (until it shuts down).
2. Remove the battery and press the power button (as if you were trying to turn the phone on).
3. Leave the phone without the battery overnight (or for at least an hour).
4. Put the battery back and charge the phone without touching the screen.
Make sure you don't touch the screen whenever you're charging, until the issue disappears. This should happen within 2-3 days. If the problem persists, you ether did something wrong, or (as explained above) you have a different issue... Most common related problem is a faulty digitizer.
(source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239238)
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If this fails, the last option I see could be this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360638 (thank god I have a backup)
Please note, that I've tried the responsiveness of the screen with both with and without the battery cover installed, so I've dismissed the little silver pin as the issue. And as I said the touch screen was fully working before the cable/ribbon swap. Touch doesn't even work in recovery.
So (after a long intro), my question would be, does anyone have any ideas, what could be wrong? TBH, I don't want to buy a new digitizer (even if thats the issue), because I don't want to spend any more $ on this phone (bought a new battery, battery door, some misc stuff)
PS:
I haven't changed anything software/firmware wise during/before/after the swap.
Current setup is:
ROM: latest android1234567 CM11
Kernel: Sultans r53, slight undervolt, slight underclock
Recovery: TWRP
S-OFF
Thanks in advance!
borgwarrior said:
Hi,
My wifi and bt modules didn't work for the past two months, and after searching trough the Q&A forums, I came to the conclusion that I have to change the ribbon cable, perhaps thats the problem.
So, I've ordered the panel, and it arrived yesterday, it was this piece:
I've swapped it with the old panel, phone fired up nicely, I even saw the BT connections logo appear on the status bar. Yay.
But.
The touch screen doesn't register my touches anywhere on the screen. I've checked the connections, everything connects good.
I've dismissed the idea of a faulty digitizer, since before the ribbon cable/panel switch, everything was working as it's supposed to be.
I'm fully out of ideas, so I'm doing these steps as a last resort: (I'm currently at the third step)
If this fails, the last option I see could be this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360638 (thank god I have a backup)
Please note, that I've tried the responsiveness of the screen with both with and without the battery cover installed, so I've dismissed the little silver pin as the issue. And as I said the touch screen was fully working before the cable/ribbon swap. Touch doesn't even work in recovery.
So (after a long intro), my question would be, does anyone have any ideas, what could be wrong? TBH, I don't want to buy a new digitizer (even if thats the issue), because I don't want to spend any more $ on this phone (bought a new battery, battery door, some misc stuff)
PS:
I haven't changed anything software/firmware wise during/before/after the swap.
Current setup is:
ROM: latest android1234567 CM11
Kernel: Sultans r53, slight undervolt, slight underclock
Recovery: TWRP
S-OFF
Thanks in advance!
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I've the same problem also replaced the cable/ribbon. I've tried everything software related.

Note 10 Lite's screen stops working after some time

I've had a Galaxy Note 10 Lite for some time now and it started displaying this behaviour where the screen stops working after some time of the phone being on.
There's no apparent connection to how hot the phone is.
I've also re-sat all the straps and cables and cleaned them with isopropyl alcohol.
Sometimes during use, I'll see some quick greenish/purple-ish glitches on the screen. But, apart from that, it'll look amazing the whole time.
Also, sometimes, as I use it, the screen will freeze during whatever is happening on the screen and the image will refresh if I press it down on the 2/4 area from the top down.
Then, if I leave the phone for a few minutes with the screen either on or off, I could come back to it being unresponsive. At first, I thought it was turning off. But if I press the screenshot buttons, it'll vibrate and save the screenshot that I'll be able to see after I soft reset the phone back to life (it'll reboot by itself from time to time, though).
The time it takes for it to "die" varies from seconds to minutes to hours. But it's become unreliable and had to buy a new phone.
I thought about replacing the screen, but it costs as much as a new phone here in Brazil.
What I'm thinking is maybe there's some cable or something I could access on the screen to inhibit this behaviour.
Can anyone help me out with insights?
Cheers,
Uriel
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Try in safe mode.
Clear system cache.
Try a hard reboot.
Any uncased drops or water exposure?
Just tried safe mode and the screen started all messed up, with elements that should be organised scattered all over it.
Now... I'm soft rebooting it and it goes straight to a dark screen after showing the Samsung logo.
I was going to try clearing the cache next, but now I need to get access back to the system.
I've done a hard reboot to no avail.
It was exposed to water years ago, which resulted on a screen issue that was fixed by Samsung by replacing it.
Ok. I got safe mode successfully activated now. I'll give it time but I don't feel too optimistic about it.
urieljabes said:
Just tried safe mode and the screen started all messed up, with elements that should be organised scattered all over it.
Now... I'm soft rebooting it and it goes straight to a dark screen after showing the Samsung logo.
I was going to try clearing the cache next, but now I need to get access back to the system.
I've done a hard reboot to no avail.
It was exposed to water years ago, which resulted on a screen issue that was fixed by Samsung by replacing it.
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May have water damaged ribbon cable contacts, or water damage on the mobo is now showing up; corrosion never sleeps. Maybe another display failure. Maybe a loose cable; carefully inspect all display cables on both ends and their sockets. A failed ribbon cable.
Finally a corrupted rom or user data partition.
These phones are relatively inexpensive now, even new ones can still be had. The N10+ be an upgrade if you like it. If repair doesn't work you have other options.
The newer Samsung's suck. This generation of Notes was the zenith for Samsung and the Note... in my opinion. I have two N10+'s and they run like bats out of hell. Solid, well built, work horses that just keep running. This one in my hand has over 8k hours on it, looks, feels and runs like it's new with one battery replacement. Zero display flaws, current load is over 2 yo, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. That's what these phones are capable of.
urieljabes said:
Ok. I got safe mode successfully activated now. I'll give it time but I don't feel too optimistic about it.
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Never know, could be a 3rd party app.
So, this happened. And it rebooted right after I stopped recording.
Yeah looks like the display but you won't know what it is without opening it up.
Don't think a factory reset or reflash will help... I could be wrong.
blackhawk said:
Yeah looks like the display but you won't know what it is without opening it up.
Don't think a factory reset or reflash will help... I could be wrong.
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Yep. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue.
I don't know how to get access to the other end of the ribbons that go into the screen, though. I'll see what I can do.
Cheers!
urieljabes said:
Yep. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue.
I don't know how to get access to the other end of the ribbons that go into the screen, though. I'll see what I can do.
Cheers!
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Watch some tear down vids. Have the right tools and take your time. With used ones going for a couple hundred that's another option.
I'm surprised how well my N10+ has held up, it's always cased. Water exposure is a killer. Even if it's IP68 rated, keep it away from water, especially salt water.
I hope is the backlight issue on the logic board

Huge battery drain problem on stock device

Hello there!
I'm having problems with this device, the Mi 10 Lite 5G (Monet) in particular.
Out of nowhere it started having an insane battery drain. To the point that if i unplug it from the charger before i go to sleep so the phone starts at 100% battery, when I wake up between 6 and 8 hours later, I find it at 30 to 50%, at an average of 7-8%/h.
I'm on all stock: latest MIUI, no bootlocker unlocked, no root, ironically I chose this device 'cause i didn't want any headaches.
Remembering my olden modding days, I remembered about the wakelock hunts, so that's the first thing i thought about. I tried multiple apps to do so and even the Battery Historian tool via a bugreport. Everything points to some kernel wakelocks that pretty consistently activate, not letting my CPU sleep at all, which makes sense as to why It would drain battery like that. The problem is I can't figure out what causes it. There's no app that does it, it seems to be all kernel stuff, I even factory reset and tested without installing anything. Either it's something with the system itself, that I can't quite pinpoint, or i'm starting to think it might be hardware. I don't wanna sway anyone, but my best bet is it could be a faulty usb-c charging port. Although I don't know how it could make it this bad, and I'm obviously not sure it even is it. Would suck to change it, spend money on it, and still have the problem.
Aside from the wakelocks, there's also another bit of info that makes me think that: when off, if i plug the usb cable in to charge it, the phone doesn't get to the battery charging animation, but it keeps showing me the Xiaomi logo screen, over and over. I haven't tested if it actually charges in the background or not, for fear of making things worse.
I even checked if there was something weird in the hidden battery stats by dialing the code *#*#6485#*#*, but aside from the phone going into "sink attached" mode at random intervals, which apparently means it's trying to provide charge to something else through the port or wireless charge (that this phone doesn't even have)...? I can't tell if there's anything weird with it or not.
I know my way around android a little bit, but I'm a little bit lacking when it comes to intricate information like this, and I couldn't find any information about this (these) particular wakelock(s) and everything else around 'em.
I'd really appreciate it if someone who knows this kind of stuff better than me could help me out with it. Even just to know what the problem is and there's no real solution.
I'll attach a couple screenshots from Battery Historian (my phone's been factory reset, so I have no apps on it, and don't plan on putting any on aside from the ones I absolutely need, in case I have to send in in for repairs, or root/mod it to try and mitigate or solve this) and alsothe bugreport itself, in case someone needs to look at it in detail to try and sniff out the problem.
Also, if this wan't the right place to post this, let me know. I went for the device, but maybe there's a better section to more in general help with these types of issues, but if there is i couldn't find it.
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Thanks in advance to anyone who even only just thinks about helping me out!
EDIT: For anyone reading this, the problem was indeed a broken usb-c port/module. I bought a replacement and swapped it out myself and my battery is back to being perfect. Well, almost perfect... This quickly discharging business has lowered its health obviously.
I suspect some sort of short would make my phone believe something was continously being inserted and removed into the usb port, so the CPU would keep being woken up, and kept consuming extra power to try and read something off of it.
I hope this helps someone!
From what I can tell there is no problem. The battery is being consumed at a normal rate by the cpu, wifi and Bluetooth. If you're not using them just deactivate them.
Check the USB port for fluff etc stuffed deep down by repetitive compacting. Use something pin like but not metallic to scrape any foreign objects out.
shivadow said:
From what I can tell there is no problem. The battery is being consumed at a normal rate by the cpu, wifi and Bluetooth. If you're not using them just deactivate them.
Check the USB port for fluff etc stuffed deep down by repetitive compacting. Use something pin like but not metallic to scrape any foreign objects out.
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While it does appear that it is being used normally, that graph stays the same if i turn everything off, either through airplane mode or by manually disabling wi-fi, bluetooth, GPS, or anything else. I can't turn off the CPU, so there must be something that keeps it up and running for no reason while it should instead be sleeping, and I can't for the life of me figure out what it is. Which is why i think it might be hardware.
I will do the deeper cleaning operation as soon as I can get my hands on a pin-like object small enough that's not metal. Everything i have is either slightly too big to reach more than just the surface of the port, or thin enough but metallic.

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