official or unofficial - Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, i always wanted to know but Never ask..
Now i want to know about and sorry of simple demand.
What is the diference between an official ROM and unofficial ROM ?
And also diference of thread Android development with original Android développement.
Thanks.

green2005 said:
Hi, i always wanted to know but Never ask..
Now i want to know about and sorry of simple demand.
What is the diference between an official ROM and unofficial ROM ?
And also diference of thread Android development with original Android développement.
Thanks.
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It's actually fairly simple... an "official" ROM is one that is authorized, and often supported by, the development team of that ROM and the device is considered an "officially supported device".
But since the source code for these ROMs is open source, anyone can build or compile them for their device or another device that isn't officially supported. The ROM is not supported by the development team, but by the ROM maintainer/builder only. These types of builds that are either not officially supported devices, have modified the source code outside of the original developers guidelines, or not authorized by the development team are called "unofficial". They may even be by the same maintainer as the official version, but they modified (perhaps used a different toolchain) from the original guidelines for the ROM and it cannot be considered official any longer.
Really, it's boils down to: is the device supported and authorized by the core ROM development team... if yes, it's official... if no, it's unofficial.
Android Original Development is supposed to be for ROMs, kernels, and other projects that are completely original by the author, or authorized originals... Cyanogenmod/LineageOS is a good example of this... ROMs like Resurrection Remix are not considered "original" because they are based on Cyanogenmod, thus they just go into the Android Development section.
If in doubt about what the forum groups are for, read the sticky posts in each group.

Thanks now it's more clear

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Will community continue to develop to this phone after cyanogenmod is done in 6 days?

Will community continue to develop to this phone after cyanogenmod is done in 6 days? As some of you may know Cyanogen inc had lots of issues so they decided to shutdown the company after 7 years of work. Some of the official devs started to tease a cyanogenmod reborn, named Lineage OS. You can find them on twitter, facebook, google+ and their new site lineageos.org . The site is still wip but i hope that Lineage OS will be developed for this phone and i dont have to throw my phone off the window just cause i dont have the latest update
As the source code will still available and the team is willing to continue, I see no reason for stopping, as long as our device maintainers support this device. But it may slow down a bit for a while, it's been a major transition after all. And rest of the custom ROMs might get affected too. Better to stay tuned in every thread possible, ours is not so big
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Gravemind2015 said:
As the source code will still available and the team is willing to continue, I see no reason for stopping, as long as our device maintainers support this device. But it may slow down a bit for a while, it's been a major transition after all. And rest of the custom ROMs might get affected too. Better to stay tuned in every thread possible, ours is not so big
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youre right. i guess ill make sure im in the latest nightly in the next days if anything happens
The question is will CyanogenMod continue to live now that they have lost all support from Cyanogen, including build servers, monetary, and technical support... CyanogenMod will be renamed to LineageOS... The biggest problem is all development on Moto G 2015 (and many other Moto devices) is based on CyanogenMod, and there is no other source at this time. How will that play out? We don't know yet...
A well formed (and informed) answer from Stack Exchange's Android Enthusiast group:
CM's own blog is unreachable now, but XDA-Developers already summed it up and clarified some important bits:
All monetary and infrastructural support for CyanogenMod from Cyanogen Inc. will cease. -> CyanogenMod will no longer receive nightly builds after December 31st... unless the team finds another host to build nightlies.
The CyanogenMod team will not continue official development on the project.
CyanogenMod will rebrand as LineageOS.
Since it's clear that Cyngn is going in a new direction, Cyanogen OS will almost certainly have no future, since it's not community-driven in the first place. CyanogenMod, on the other hand, will live a bit longer, until Lineage dawns (or fails).
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Wasn't Omnirom a fork of CM after the creation of Cyanogen Inc? As I recall all the developers were upset over going commercial and the future of cyanogenmod. Lineage OS would in essence be a fork of Cyanogenmod as well. I think it will really depend on whether they can find funding for some build infrastructure and how many developers jump on board.
acejavelin said:
The question is will CyanogenMod continue to live now that they have lost all support from Cyanogen, including build servers, monetary, and technical support... CyanogenMod will be renamed to LineageOS... The biggest problem is all development on Moto G 2015 (and many other Moto devices) is based on CyanogenMod, and there is no other source at this time. How will that play out? We don't know yet...
A well formed (and informed) answer from Stack Exchange's Android Enthusiast group:
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The repositories are being mirrored (probably 'forked' is the correct term) into linageOS so I think we'll have a copy of our source code. And they said the source code for CM would still be available.
https://github.com/LineageOS?tab=repositories
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BTW, it isn't ending on Dec 31st like most people thought... it's ending prior to Dec 31st... They lost DNS and Jenkins yesterday, the blog is gone (so no reference to the official posts), official Cyanogen and CyanogenMod websites are down, and probably more that I haven't noticed mentioned yet are gone already.
But https://download.cyanogenmod.org is still live.
What would be the status of other custom roms that are based on cyanogenmod. Would they be affected ?
aa1010 said:
What would be the status of other custom roms that are based on cyanogenmod. Would they be affected ?
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Of course...ALL ROMs for this device, except stock based ones, use the CM device tree and base code... Will LineageOS replace that? Right now it appears that way but time will tell.
To be honest, if CM/LineageOS doesn't make it... Probably 80℅ of all ROMs out there will disappear as we know them today, we really don't know the long-term effects this will have on the ROM community.
Some dumb questions:
1. LineageOS is the same team as CM?
2. There's a release date for the lineageOS and it will be compatible with moto g 2015?
3. To keep updated is better to wait or change to an AOSP based rom since AOSP will still be releasing?
h0ttentot said:
Some dumb questions:
1. LineageOS is the same team as CM?
2. There's a release date for the lineageOS and it will be compatible with moto g 2015?
3. To keep updated is better to wait or change to an AOSP based rom since AOSP will still be releasing?
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1.2.3 i dunno but i hope everything will be fine
h0ttentot said:
Some dumb questions:
1. LineageOS is the same team as CM?
2. There's a release date for the lineageOS and it will be compatible with moto g 2015?
3. To keep updated is better to wait or change to an AOSP based rom since AOSP will still be releasing?
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1. Yes, to a point... for more information look at http://lineageos.org/Yes-this-is-us/
2. We don't know yet, they do not have build servers at the moment
3. I would wait, there is little chance of getting a working AOSP device tree at this time, but we will just have to wait and see.
The point is, right now we don't know exactly how this is all going to play out... we need to have patience and just see what happens.
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I would suggest everyone following this thread, look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/cyanogenmod-to-lineageos-t3526944

CyanogenMod shut

The team behind CynanogenMod has declared the existing brand dead, and announced plans to fork the source code of the mobile OS.
Does this mean there will not be CyanogenMod version after 14.1? Or does it mean that they will not provide official builds for devices?
Yes to both, because what is left of CyanogenMod will be forked into LineageOS. No nightlies are to be developed after today. The OS will lose all Cyanogen-related branding as the brand could be sold. LineageOS will have zero affiliation whatsoever with Cyanogen.
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SirSoviet said:
LineageOS will have zero affiliation whatsoever with Cyanogen.
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LineageOS (or LOS) will be composed of several Cyanogenmod developers. Just want to remind that.
riahc3 said:
LineageOS (or LOS) will be composed of several Cyanogenmod developers. Just want to remind that.
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That's basically what I said though. Cyanogen is not related to CyanogenMod, at all.
Wrong section, it should be to General talking not troubleshooting
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Some questions regarding Android ROM Development and Kernel Development

Hi, I'm completely new in Android ROM development and want to get into it. I have a Moto G Turbo and a old Moto E 1st gen.
So I had some question regarding Android ROM development. I may sound completely noob which I am, but still if you help me by answering my question or at least referring to some links then I'll be helpful. And please only answer if you are confident about what you are saying.
1> I understand that Android is open source, so basically we can download and build it. What does it take to make that boot on a particular device?
2> Android is based on linux kernel. So we need a kernel source too. I found this, https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm, is this the kernel source for moto devices? I am confused because I can find only one repository although it must different repositories for different devices.
3> If we have a kernel source for the device, can we build any ROM like AOSP or AOSP-CAF and boot it in our device? If not why?
3> I have a good knowledge of C although I am still learning. How do I start developing or porting ROM? I am specially interested in PURE AOSP.
I don’t know but you might find a lot of tutorials in non-device-specific threads. And I think there’s a guide on how to build lineage 13 for osprey
This thread could be helpful:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073370&page=1

Request a DEV to open a thread for building a ROM

It would be great if any developer shares his/her work procedure about building any ROM for Oneplus 6 (enchilada).
A lot of new ROMS are there in the market and for people like me who want to learn custom ROM developement and have only this phone at the moment to test, not a lot of resources are present in the web market to help us.
Therefore, it's my humble request to any DEV who can share with us the procedure for building custom ROMS like from scratch. This can include, getting ROM sources, device tree, kernel tree or vendor tree to be used and other modifications. It will help the community a lot. Discussions can be made based on various issues people encounter and it would be appreciated a lot.
Closed at the OP's request.

[Android Development] How The Developers Make The Custom Rom?? (not buildboting)

My Question Is How Will the Custom Rom Made From The Aosp Base??
I Really want to learn the Android Custom Rom Development.(Again I'm Telling That I'm Not asking about complier or bulid the rom). I'm asking about the source and how it is made.
I Want To Be a core member.
Giving a Guide To This Question Is Highly Appreciated!!
Thank You Guys
(t.me) is a good place, they use SDK and Android Kitchen etc.
JaswanthTeja said:
My Question Is How Will the Custom Rom Made From The Aosp Base??
I Really want to learn the Android Custom Rom Development.(Again I'm Telling That I'm Not asking about complier or bulid the rom). I'm asking about the source and how it is made.
I Want To Be a core member.
Giving a Guide To This Question Is Highly Appreciated!!
Thank You Guys
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Custom ROM sources require that the stock source code be made available to the public by the manufacturer/carrier of the device. If the stock source code for a specific device has not been made available to the public, developers can not create custom ROM source code for that specific device. Developers use the stock source code to create the custom ROM source code and then ROMs are built using the custom source they created. I think that is the answer you were really looking for. You want to know how the source code itself that the ROMs are built from is created. You aren't asking about the fruit that comes from the tree, you are asking where the tree that bears the fruit comes from. Am I right?
The only way to get custom ROMs on devices that do not have stock source code made available is to port custom ROMs from a similar device with the same architecture that does have available source code and custom ROMs made for it.
OldNoobOne said:
(t.me) is a good place, they use SDK and Android Kitchen etc.
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I don't think that is what they are asking.
Droidriven said:
I don't think that is what they are asking.
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Yeah, I Want To Know About Android Arc
JaswanthTeja said:
Yeah, I Want To Know About Android Arc
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I answered the question. If you specifically want to know how developers convert stock source code into custom ROM source code, you probably will not find that answer here. Most of the people here work with the stuff that the LineageOS team creates from stock source code after the custom ROM source code has been created, they are not part of the process involved in creating the custom source code. It is like being a construction worker, the construction worker does not create the material that he uses to build a house, someone else creates the materials and then he uses what they created to build a house. Google and the LineageOS team create the material, the developers here use what they created to build the ROMs here.
You should try going to github or the LineageOS website to ask your question.
Droidriven said:
I answered the question. If you specifically want to know how developers convert stock source code into custom ROM source code, you probably will not find that answer here. Most of the people here work with the stuff that the LineageOS team creates from stock source code after the custom ROM source code has been created, they are not part of the process involved in creating the custom source code. It is like being a construction worker, the construction worker does not create the material that he uses to build a house, someone else creates the materials and then he uses what they created to build a house. Google and the LineageOS team create the material, the developers here use what they created to build the ROMs here.
You should try going to github or the LineageOS website to ask your question.
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