Mi3 ROMs work on the Mi4, right?
Could Mi4C ROMs work on the 4S?
-Same chipset ([email protected])
- Same display (1080p, 5inch, 441ppi, IPS)
- Same camera (13 MP, f/2.0)
The only differences would be the fingerprint sensor and the battery, which shouldn't be a big problem.
hardware wise the most notable differences are the 64gb of inbuilt storage in mi4s (vs 32), the ability to have an sd card and the fingerprint scanner... few differences but enough to require a developer porting the mi4c roms to mi4s... don't try installing any mi4c roms on mi4s.
it seems so...
they use same kernel source and the same configuration on building the kernel.
There is a post on the chinese MIUI forum whose poster flashed the offical Mi 4c MIUI on Mi 4s and it runs as normal except for the fingerprint.
http://www.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3953188
Hi Guys, I'm wondering if Mi4 is still worth it to get today. I have the chance on also getting the Mi4C instead. So I would like to know your experience with it and if you have had the chance to try and compare it to the Mi4C, what would you recommend me to go for.
Mi4 or Mi4C
I wonder if is it a deal breaker to get the Mi4c over the Mi4, taking in count both cameras and the processor. Considering also both with 3 gb ram, and software development such as custom roms and xiaomi official firmware.
Thanks
SD808 vs SD801... I would think the choice is obvious.
There are many things
MI4c - Newer - Faster Processor - Dual SIM - USB Typ C (very great to charging) - locked Bootloader (it is no problem to unlock!)
Mi4 - Older - but more Development custom ROM - camera2 API - Global ROM (MM 6.0.1) - Metal Frame
btw send early enough a unlock request! i have done that many days before i recived my Mi4c
are you really ok with the 16GB of Mi4 ?
you will have like 12gb available which i personally find super low...
I has Mi4 last year, and now i switched it to Mi 4c, as far no problem with two devices. No Lag or heating Issues.
but i more prefer to choose Mi 4c, its easy to use with one hand
Hello folks,
time for phone upgrade for me. Trying to decide Mi A2 and Redmi Note 6 Pro that came out recently. I am leaning towards Mi A2 primarily due to Android One.
Many don't like MIUI interface. I have personally never used Xiaomi phones so far so have no idea if its good or bad. Android one because other than google's bloatware there should not be anything else. Plus, regular updates and hopefully no anti-rollback lock so the phone won't brick. (I am not too sure if this anti-rollback is by google or Xiaomi, haven't searched yet)
What is recommendation? Mi A2 or Redmi Note 6 Pro?
Thanks in advance.
be very very careful with the redmi note 6 pro. pick the global (official) version unless you want to be stuck on the china miui:
http://en.miui.com/thread-3831680-1-1.html
redmi note 6 pro
pros:
-bigger battery
-it will probably have better custom rom support (eventually - check the redmi note 5 pro info)
-should be cheaper compared to the a2 (if it costs you as much as the mi a2 you're being ripped off)
-dual selfie cameras if you're into that
cons:
-micro usb - we're in 2018 xiaomi... seriously?
-sightly lower clock on the cpu
-miui (you should be able to get a custom rom eventually)
-currently sells at the highest price you will find it (it will get cheaper)
-notch
-competition:
*redmi note 5 pro has almost the same hardware, already has good custom roms and sells for less.
*poco f1 is selling for a bit more but you do get better hardware. and custom roms ramping up already.
mi a2:
pros:
-better stock rom.
-better back camera
-slimer and lighter
-usb c
-sturdier build (case uses actual screws)
cons:
-if you intend to custom rom it, don't bother with android one. miui gets you better hardware for the money and in some cases custom roms (see lineage) can be a better choice. see appendix.
-price
-no headphone jack
-smaller battery
-competition:
*miui phones which cost less to get you the same/similar specs (and are the same xiaomi build quality)
*nokias with android one cost a bit more to get the same specs but nokia has even better build quality (sorry xiaomi but you dont build bricks like they do) and they're already updating to pie for their android ones. so maybe better support in the future too? who knows.
miui versus android one versus custom roms:
miui:
-has 2 versions: china (without google play because reasons) and just china + en languages, plenty of china targeted apps, even their own app store. and global (china miui - some bloatware + google play)
-ONLY these 2 miui versions will ever be OTA compatible.
-never ever get a phone with china miui (unless you're actually in china) - sometimes vendors will "customize" the china rom, add google play and a "bunch of other" stuff and sell that to you as official. DO NOT BUY THAT! (unless you intend to completely remove miui anyway)
-an official global miui is a must for daily use outside china... (do not consider a china only phone, you will regret it)
-there are semi-custom miui releases like xiaomi.eu and miuipro.com (in case your phone happens to not have an official miui global not all do - only the ones released outside china officially get a global rom!). they are not that bad, some say even better compared to miui global official - but you do need to unlock your bootloader (and some willingness to tinker with your phone os). and you lose things like: OTA and official support (as bad as it may be)
problems with miui are:
-miui support and updates are kinda slow.
-security patches are released but not very fast.
-it's based on personal preference, some like it compared to android standard, some find it snappier, some find it's slower.
-for the redmi series you get at most ONE official android update. (i.e. from nougat to oreo or oreo to pie). you get miui updates (and security patches), but never more then 1 android.
-bugs and serious problems sometime go unanswered while they add more and more features. (not always, not all bugs, but sometimes... en.miui.com for examples - read the forums on some of the phones released for a while)
if you're willing to learn and to have an unlocked bootloader phone (some people do not), miui can be completely wiped and you can get an proper custom rom (hell you can even build one yourself). these will be based on the aosp or caf source code, will look like android standard (sometime even better if you don't really want all the google apps - or google apps at all). if you want a rooted phone this is your best bet. most have even ota updates (on their own custom channels).
problem is .... as much as i like custom roms, they are built and maintained by volunteer devs working on their own free time. so it's always unknown and you have 0 guarantees that a phone that's supported now will continue to be supported next year. there's also no guarantee that any phone will be supported. (they're not looking to add to their workload)
and so in comes android one... it's got the stock android experience without requiring you to unlock, root, custom rom etc. it does mean google adds all their gapps but the stock experience is much better compared to stock miui. you get updates in time, you get a clean nice stock android. good luck, i hope this helps you make your decision.
laviniu_c said:
be very very careful with the redmi note 6 pro. pick the global (official) version unless you want to be stuck on the china miui:
http://en.miui.com/thread-3831680-1-1.html
redmi note 6 pro
pros:
-bigger battery
-it will probably have better custom rom support (eventually - check the redmi note 5 pro info)
-should be cheaper compared to the a2 (if it costs you as much as the mi a2 you're being ripped off)
-dual selfie cameras if you're into that
cons:
-micro usb - we're in 2018 xiaomi... seriously?
-sightly lower clock on the cpu
-miui (you should be able to get a custom rom eventually)
-currently sells at the highest price you will find it (it will get cheaper)
-notch
-competition:
*redmi note 5 pro has almost the same hardware, already has good custom roms and sells for less.
*poco f1 is selling for a bit more but you do get better hardware. and custom roms ramping up already.
mi a2:
pros:
-better stock rom.
-better back camera
-slimer and lighter
-usb c
-sturdier build (case uses actual screws)
cons:
-if you intend to custom rom it, don't bother with android one. miui gets you better hardware for the money and in some cases custom roms (see lineage) can be a better choice. see appendix.
-price
-no headphone jack
-smaller battery
-competition:
*miui phones which cost less to get you the same/similar specs (and are the same xiaomi build quality)
*nokias with android one cost a bit more to get the same specs but nokia has even better build quality (sorry xiaomi but you dont build bricks like they do) and they're already updating to pie for their android ones. so maybe better support in the future too? who knows.
miui versus android one versus custom roms:
miui:
-has 2 versions: china (without google play because reasons) and just china + en languages, plenty of china targeted apps, even their own app store. and global (china miui - some bloatware + google play)
-ONLY these 2 miui versions will ever be OTA compatible.
-never ever get a phone with china miui (unless you're actually in china) - sometimes vendors will "customize" the china rom, add google play and a "bunch of other" stuff and sell that to you as official. DO NOT BUY THAT! (unless you intend to completely remove miui anyway)
-an official global miui is a must for daily use outside china... (do not consider a china only phone, you will regret it)
-there are semi-custom miui releases like xiaomi.eu and miuipro.com (in case your phone happens to not have an official miui global not all do - only the ones released outside china officially get a global rom!). they are not that bad, some say even better compared to miui global official - but you do need to unlock your bootloader (and some willingness to tinker with your phone os). and you lose things like: OTA and official support (as bad as it may be)
problems with miui are:
-miui support and updates are kinda slow.
-security patches are released but not very fast.
-it's based on personal preference, some like it compared to android standard, some find it snappier, some find it's slower.
-for the redmi series you get at most ONE official android update. (i.e. from nougat to oreo or oreo to pie). you get miui updates (and security patches), but never more then 1 android.
-bugs and serious problems sometime go unanswered while they add more and more features. (not always, not all bugs, but sometimes... en.miui.com for examples - read the forums on some of the phones released for a while)
if you're willing to learn and to have an unlocked bootloader phone (some people do not), miui can be completely wiped and you can get an proper custom rom (hell you can even build one yourself). these will be based on the aosp or caf source code, will look like android standard (sometime even better if you don't really want all the google apps - or google apps at all). if you want a rooted phone this is your best bet. most have even ota updates (on their own custom channels).
problem is .... as much as i like custom roms, they are built and maintained by volunteer devs working on their own free time. so it's always unknown and you have 0 guarantees that a phone that's supported now will continue to be supported next year. there's also no guarantee that any phone will be supported. (they're not looking to add to their workload)
and so in comes android one... it's got the stock android experience without requiring you to unlock, root, custom rom etc. it does mean google adds all their gapps but the stock experience is much better compared to stock miui. you get updates in time, you get a clean nice stock android. good luck, i hope this helps you make your decision.
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Thank u I am actually looking at both these phones myself thank u for the breakdown I believe the 6 pro also has the 636 snapedragon chip supposed to be alot faster
rob420p said:
Thank u I am actually looking at both these phones myself thank u for the breakdown I believe the 6 pro also has the 636 snapedragon chip supposed to be alot faster
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well the 636 is a downclocked 660. same identical cpu, lower clock speeds for it and the gpu. (it's the same comparison like 626 vs 625)
laviniu_c said:
well the 636 is a downclocked 660. same identical cpu, lower clock speeds for it and the gpu. (it's the same comparison like 626 vs 625)
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Thank you so I'll get what ever I get a better deal on
rob420p said:
Thank you so I'll get what ever I get a better deal on
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I was in your shoes. I finally got Note 6 pro for 13K INR.
I felt MI A2 lacked battery and costed 3K extra.
sureshjonna said:
I was in your shoes. I finally got Note 6 pro for 13K INR.
I felt MI A2 lacked battery and costed 3K extra.
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I'm getting the Redmi 6 it doesn't say pro idk if it's the same thing lol
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sureshjonna said:
I was in your shoes. I finally got Note 6 pro for 13K INR.
I felt MI A2 lacked battery and costed 3K extra.
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IDK that donomination found it for 155$$
rob420p said:
I'm getting the Redmi 6 it doesn't say pro idk if it's the same thing lol
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IDK that donomination found it for 155$$
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redmi 6 pro = mi a2 lite
redmi note 6 pro is not the same phone
The performance is very close compared with Mi A2 if you don't play games. You also get a more beautiful display and very good battery life. According to notebookcheck.net the display is like high-end smartphones
If you are buying for your mother, wife, girl friend, sister, father or in general any non technical or non gaming folks, then go for Note 6 Pro any day.
Note 6 Pro with older SD636 is good for mainly those who prefer picture, social, entertainment over gaming or customisation. MiUi is bad in our eye who are tech savvy but main advantage is longer and really agressive update cycle.
It keeps the device relatively clean & up to date for non technical people. MiUi in general is really battery friendly too.
Having both within family so giving you feedback based on typical family feedback and first hand use.
I don't know if you still interested confused between these two phones, earlier I was also in the same situation but that time I was considering to buy note 5pro as note 6pro was not launched, but when it launched on "single's day"(celebrated in China) at 12,999 with 5% extra discount with selected banks, that offer was great, while MIA2 was around 15-16k so I bought note 6 pro, right now note 6 pro is around 13,999 and MiA2 is also price at 14-15k so why not buy better process i.e sd660 which is better clocked, better camera, vulkan supported. Only downside of MIA2 I can think about is battery capacity, no headphones jack and hybrid sim try,
Bhanu_Chauhan said:
I don't know if you still interested confused between these two phones, earlier I was also in the same situation but that time I was considering to buy note 5pro as note 6pro was not launched, but when it launched on "single's day"(celebrated in China) at 12,999 with 5% extra discount with selected banks, that offer was great, while MIA2 was around 15-16k so I bought note 6 pro, right now note 6 pro is around 13,999 and MiA2 is also price at 14-15k so why not buy better process i.e sd660 which is better clocked, better camera, vulkan supported. Only downside of MIA2 I can think about is battery capacity, no headphones jack and hybrid sim try,
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the mi a2 4/64 has also the emmc bug which makes the phone terribly slow and the pie update is unusable
all that plus a battery that will last you 4hs is a big no for me
the differences are not that big, the note 6 pro is clearly a better product in comparison, plus it's cheaper
I have no experience what is important regarding device tree and development. From first guess Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC should be the closest and after 6 months already has a lot of ROMs (52 threads).
The devices beside the case and probably screen and battery differ a lot (X3 NFC vs X3 Pro):
SnapD. 732G vs 860, Adreno 618 vs 640, UFS 2.1 vs 3.1
Main Cam Exmor RS IMX682 vs IMX582, Selfie Unknown CMOS vs S5K3T2
So I wonder if the X3 NFC ROM development is of any additional use for the X3 Pro?
ChriMo said:
I have no experience what is important regarding device tree and development. From first guess Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC should be the closest and after 6 months already has a lot of ROMs (52 threads).
The devices beside the case and probably screen and battery differ a lot (X3 NFC vs X3 Pro):
SnapD. 732G vs 860, Adreno 618 vs 640, UFS 2.1 vs 3.1
Main Cam Exmor RS IMX682 vs IMX582, Selfie Unknown CMOS vs S5K3T2
So I wonder if the X3 NFC ROM development is of any additional use for the X3 Pro?
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No, Qualcomm 8XX uses a different development platform than 7XX
The good thing is that my new script that I developed on the Poco X3 NFC should also work well on the new X3 Pro. It allows to remove the read-only lock so you can fully debloat and customize your device. I wonder if any X3 Pro users have tried it yet?
I mean, the phone is cheap, and poco does have generally good rom support. We just have to wait for TWRP
Ad3s12 said:
I mean, the phone is cheap, and poco does have generally good rom support. We just have to wait for TWRP
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I concur... I'm just waiting on LineageOS support after a compatible version of TWRP becomes available
Well, It should has a lot of roms for 2 reasons :
- first mid-range device with flagship cpu & gpu
- lower cost
so why not ? it's good spot for developers
Abdullah.Csit said:
Well, It should has a lot of roms for 2 reasons :
- first mid-range device with flagship cpu & gpu
- lower cost
so why not ? it's good spot for developers
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I agree, but most people bought Poco X3 NFC and it created more hype than Poco X3 Pro imo, so I think that It will have good development, but not as Poco X3. Poco X3 is currently the best Xiaomi device regarding ROM development activity imo.
But If I haven't bought Poco X3 NFC, I would buy the Pro version for sure.
ChriMo said:
I have no experience what is important regarding device tree and development. From first guess Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC should be the closest and after 6 months already has a lot of ROMs (52 threads).
The devices beside the case and probably screen and battery differ a lot (X3 NFC vs X3 Pro):
SnapD. 732G vs 860, Adreno 618 vs 640, UFS 2.1 vs 3.1
Main Cam Exmor RS IMX682 vs IMX582, Selfie Unknown CMOS vs S5K3T2
So I wonder if the X3 NFC ROM development is of any additional use for the X3 Pro?
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They just buildbot and most of them get rejected from official. What matters is less quantity and better quality.
In the Telegram Poco X3 Pro Updates group I saw a Pixel 5 Port done, so this seems to be the first Custom ROM at least what I saw.
ChriMo said:
In the Telegram Poco X3 Pro Updates group I saw a Pixel 5 Port done, so this seems to be the first Custom ROM at least what I saw.
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nice
Hey guys,
I'm currently looking for a new phone and I've been wondering between Redmi Note 12 Pro and the Poco F4. What are your thoughts on both phones and which one would you recommend. So far I think I like the Redmi design more, but I also quite like the better performance and Android 13 on the Poco.
Neither, since none is listed at
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#xiaomi
Other than that I would never again go for anything Mediatek, like the Note 12 Pro:
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11955&idPhone2=11627
With qualcomm there is at least a chance that some devs will pick up, after manufacturer has abandoned it.