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the battery life on the raphael is a bit.. odd. Before I had this phone, i had the Sidekick LX, which was able to last about 12-14 hours and it didnt really matter how much I used it. The data on the sidekick is on all the time, but it is Edge.
However, using the ATT Fuze (raphael variant), I am a bit happy, and yet, a bit upset at the battery life. First, if i do not have data on, the battery lasts extremely long. Its been more than 12 hours, and i am at 85%. I had minimum web browsing, made a few phone calls, and talked for about an hour. Oh and i have email updates every 2 hours. Thats pretty remarkable for a smart phone.
BUT, if i am to browse the internet, listen to internet radio, or have an instant messaging program open, the battery drains at least 10% every hour! Thats horrendous! What is the point of a 3g smart phone if i cannot really use it because the battery will die if i do?
Hmm, I have hammered my phone the past few days with texts email, phone calls, messaging and some light video usage. It lasted about 10 - 14 hours and I charged it once a night. I have been pretty pleased with it.
I leave data on all the time and it will download my RSS feeds every 2 hours pictures and all, weather will update etc so its always using something. With normal usage and the always on stuff I have had it last about 2.5 - 3 days making very short and few calls.
With the screen being on, data going and all of the other stuff it saps the battery fairly well. I wish battery tech would advance a little to make it last longer but its better than my last phone by a good amount.
Have you made any of the power saving tweaks from that thread to your phone? You should be able to squeeze some more juice out of it.
There are several Raphael power tweaks on this forum, I would find them for you but am about to go to bed and am really tired. One I remember is you can put a disconnect time on the data using diamond tweak so it disconnects from data quickly when your not using it and saves battery. Sorry for not eing fo more help.
Did you condition your battery when you got the phone? That can help with you battery life sometimes.
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xgm541 said:
the battery life on the raphael is a bit.. odd. Before I had this phone, i had the Sidekick LX, which was able to last about 12-14 hours and it didnt really matter how much I used it. The data on the sidekick is on all the time, but it is Edge.
However, using the ATT Fuze (raphael variant), I am a bit happy, and yet, a bit upset at the battery life. First, if i do not have data on, the battery lasts extremely long. Its been more than 12 hours, and i am at 85%. I had minimum web browsing, made a few phone calls, and talked for about an hour. Oh and i have email updates every 2 hours. Thats pretty remarkable for a smart phone.
BUT, if i am to browse the internet, listen to internet radio, or have an instant messaging program open, the battery drains at least 10% every hour! Thats horrendous! What is the point of a 3g smart phone if i cannot really use it because the battery will die if i do?
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I have the phone for about 6 weeks and really didn't have too many problems with battery life until I bought a stereo BT headset and started using it in the last week or so. I had the battery literally drain to nothingness twice this week already in a matter of hours. And no, it wasn't off hook or on Wifi or left playing something. One time it was actually plugged in to a USB charger!
Do you use an A2DP headset or leave your BT active?
Dont get me wrong guys. I am aware the battery does drain when i do use it. Yes, i did do the most tweaking i could possibly have done to lengthen my battery life, but lets face it, streaming youtube videos through the youtube app will drain the battery 10% an hour.
The one thing that gets to me is why instant messaging programs drain the battery as fast as youtube streaming.
I did not make this thread to ask for help though, just contributing my 2 cents to my experience with the Raphael.
10% an hour??? Howd you fit a powerplant in your phone?? My battery drops to 50% in 20-30mins if I watch youtube movies. Are you watching in HQ?
well maybe more than 10% but definitely not 50% in 20 minutes lol.
My battery seems decent, I conditioned it by draining it to 1% and charging it to 100%, draining to 1% charging to 100% etc for the first few cycles. Basically I didn't charge it until it was drained. It doesn't hurt to condition, but I think it's just superstition by now, many people say modern Li-On batteries aren't supposed to have memory.
There are several threads about battery life around here already, no need to start a new one.
Has anyone noticed their battery life seems shorter since the update ? I installed the official froyo update last night and it seems I'm running out of juice much quicker than before.
At first mine ran down faster. I ran it all the way down. Charged it. And ran it all the way down again and charged. It seems back to normal.
I didn't have any issues. Maybe you changed something else as well? Could always try a few recharge cycles and see if it stabilizes..
I was running the leaked 2.2 and I flashed to official 2.2. My battery life is almost double what it was. I can't complain one bit about battery life, although I have other gripes with the official Froyo release.
I'm with icepop on this one.. I was running the stock rogers rom pre-update and now with the official rogers 2.2 I'm getting at least double the use before having to charge again.
I'm having battery issues with the new stock Froyo. I lose a huge amount of juce when in standby. I thought I may have my widgets updating too often so I charged it up and put it into airplane mode last night. The phone lost about 1% per hour in airplane mode. IDK what is normal but that seems like a lot to me. I didn't have any apps running, except my alarm was set for the morning.
I have SystemPanel installed and my cpu load NEVER goes below 10 percent, even in airplane mode. I suspect this is a large part of the issue. In app history, system and system processes are always on the top of the list and are around 3% each. IDK what controls this or how to lower it. I would love some feedback from someone else with SystemPanel just to see how our numbers compare. Overall the battery life I'm experiencing is pretty terrible and a buddy of mine's Fascinate has much better battery life (hence something must be wrong somewhere). He and I were skiing all day over the weekend and when we got back to our cars, my phone was half dead and his had lost almost zero juice. This displeases me.
mine's was better actually. but i didnt stayon it for long
My initial results with 2.2 were very bad (10% drop per hour when idling). I reset the phone back to 2.1 then re-installed 2.2. This did not help. Now I did this again (2.1 then 2.2) but this time I have not re-installed my apps and have not rooted (yet). So far, battery life seems to be normal. I suspect that some of my applications might mis-behave when installed on 2.2. I am planning to add them slowly and watch the battery.
Not here, seems the same to me
Mine is terrible ! I don't know what it might have been on 2.1 as I upgraded fairly quickly. Essentially I charge all night and then disconnect from power at 6:30am and then by 4:30pm I'm out of juice (phone shuts off). Any ideas here? I'm not running anything extravegant (email only) and hardly make any calls.
Whenever you flash to a new ROM, wait for at least a week of normal usage before you judge the battery life. The reason is simple, your battery stats are reset after ROM flash and your new OS needs time to learn how your battery drains before it can give you accurate readings.
If you can't wait for that long, you need follow the battery calibration thread to force a manual calibration of the battery.
I'll give it a week and see how it is then. Definitely is draining much quicker now though. I think It acted similiarly when I first got the phone as well. If I recall correctly the batter life sucked when I first got it, but then a week or so seemed to get much better.
I did the manual battery recalibration (let it die, charge while off, turn on and bump charge...etc). Last night I lost about 2.5% of battery per hour while in standby. This seems improved since calibration but its still pretty terrible IMHO. Is this in line with the amount of drain other are getting or am I draining more than usual?
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I did the manual battery recalibration (let it die, charge while off, turn on and bump charge...etc). Last night I lost about 2.5% of battery per hour while in standby. This seems improved since calibration but its still pretty terrible IMHO. Is this in line with the amount of drain other are getting or am I draining more than usual?
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Running stock since purchasing the Captivate back in August, and so far battery life actually seems to be routinely as good if not better than 2.1. I must admit I didn't use my phone a huge amount yesterday (except for about an hour plus of downloading a bunch of wallpapers off Zedge for some ungodly reason lol), and after 18 hours of the phone being on I was still over 50% battery life left. 2.5% in standby doesn't sound like all is well - you must have something running in the background or similar issue. I have a live background, sync 5 e-mail accounts (granted, only one of those is every 15 minutes - the others are every thirty minutes, every hour, and once a day on two of them), and with light use I am getting over 40 hours with 2.2 so far (about in line with 2.1, but seems maybe just a little better). Heavy use I am dropping more like to the 12 - 18 hour mark (heavy use for me means the screen on more than off, actively playing games or using apps, large amounts of texting, etc. Solid game playing I haven't figured out a drain yet, but on some games it seems like I can drop almost the whole battery in close to 10 hours). At your rate of 2.5% per hour in standby you would only make it forty hours without even using the phone. I have been using mine just a little this morning (FB check, logging in to one of the desktops at work remotely to make some changes, live background running, WiFi sleep policy is set to when screen is off, but to be honest that is about it) and I haven't moved off the 100% mark yet and the phone has been unplugged over an hour and a half.
All that said though, as other users have stated you might want to give it a little more time for the system to recalibrate the battery usage. I would definitely check your processor usage though regularly to see if anything seems 'off'. One thing that caused me problems was that my SNS service would be running but then would get stuck in a pattern of 'Restarting' - would drain my battery rapidly.
It has been said that bettery drain is not linear. First 5% goes real fast. So, you need to judget the average over a day of use, not first hour or so. I'm still in first week of ROM flashing. So I can't confirm anything yet.
See my battery stats recalibration steps here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765656
Also, TheYar has a great write-up on identifying battery drain issues here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806211
For all those seeking good battery life on the G2x do not give up. I was surprised to see my battery last this long. Usually I get about 12-14 hours max on a charge, but my last charge lasted me almost 30 hours! Now this is with light to medium usage... Some calls, texts, downloading apps, surfing the web. But previously I don't think my phone would last this long even if I left it alone.
Reading the forums, I was skeptical about people claiming they had such good battery life, but here is the proof. I took a screenshot of my usage 'since last unplugged'. And there it is... 1 day, 5 hours 32 mins. About 6 hours was when I was asleep and in the morning not much battery had drained. I've never even seen it go to 1 day before. Sadly to say I'm not sure what the change exactly was. But here are some things that I did.
Get the battery monitor widget. Your phone should be idling at around -5mA. If it's higher then something is eating your battery.
1. freeze bloatware - I think some of them are responsible for eating battery. Also apps like facebook, twitter and the default email app are set to sync automatically. You need to manually disable it inside the app settings to keep it from syncing.
2. When i bought the G2x they just swapped out my old sim card and put it in the G2x. I changed out my old sim card and got it replaced. The metal connectors on the new one looked different. I heard somewhere that the old sim cards had trouble locking into some 4g towers and would waste battery.
3. I think this one might be it... I charged the phone with it OFF. Then turned it on and it charged some more, then off and continued to charge it. Then I turned it on and calibrated the battery. Not sure if that last part had anything to do with it. But it seems that charging the phone with it off helps somehow. It might be something in the android os that isn't letting the battery fully charge.
4. I also did edit the framework-res.apk file to mod my status bar, but I don't think that would affect the battery life. I could be wrong?
So here it is... hope this helps someone.
Does this program drain battery? Had it on, and my battery was draining. Just want to make sure. I really like it to replacement stock launcher, but if it's going to kill the battery, might as well not keep it.
I use go launcher on both my phones and it doesn't use any more power than any of the other launchers do
Damnit, eerywhere I go Reg, your there to tell me that nothing I use is effecting my battery:/ this is my 3rd phone, I have no idea what I should do, factory reset?
my battery life sucked too when i first got the phone. i had been lurking this section since day one before i got the phone so i was aware of all the battery issues and possible fixes. so when i finally brought the phone home the first thing i did was made sure i did the setup wizard and immediately after i did a factory reset. then after doing the wizard again i restored all my apps and started using the phone. quickly noticed my battery life wasnt great so i downloaded the battery monitor widget and saw that the phone was constantly using 100+mA at all times. It was then that I decided to factory reset AGAIN. After doing that and reloading all my apps everything was fine. my phone uses 2mA at idle and fluctuates sometimes into the hundred but it always goes back down as it should. I also charged my phone to 100% then booted into clockworkrecoverymod and deleted the battery stats to insure the phone is reading the battery capacity accurately. No need to drain the battery and recharge it, thats just a waste of time. Now my battery is awesome. I lose 2-3% per hour idling and 1% every 10 minutes or so in actual use (assuming im not doing anything thats constantly using data connection).
Moral of the story... You prolly need to factory reset more than once because it didnt work for me till the second one.
Just for the sake of comparison.. My Vibrant loses 10% per hour idle and 1% every 2-3 minutes in use. So the battery like on the G2x is double if not more. Unless you have a defective phone or battery I dont see why the factory reset would only work for some people.
Okay, I think I'm going to do the factory reset, I won't lose my superuser functionalities or root right? Or BloatFreezer apps etc.?
You wont lose root. All your apps will be gone though so make sure you back them up with either titanium backup or mybackup pro. if i were you id install battery monitor widget and monitor that for an hour or 2 letting it idle to see if its still sucking juice for no reason and also use it for a good amount of time to make sure the mA go back down when you let it idle. that way you dont restore your stuff only to find the reset didnt work.
Sounds good, thanks for the advice man, will try this tomorrow!
So far it's not bad, it's at 1ma really when I'm idle, but as soon as I walked into my school building, I got 20ma, wtf? Is it maybe because my connection in school sucks? The cell standby went from 48% to 78%, can this be why?!
Mikeglongo said:
So far it's not bad, it's at 1ma really when I'm idle, but as soon as I walked into my school building, I got 20ma, wtf? Is it maybe because my connection in school sucks? The cell standby went from 48% to 78%, can this be why?!
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Yes. Weaker signals will make your phone poll for a better signal more often. It'll be searching for other towers more frequently.
Correct. So dont pay it too much mind. The phones power useage will fluctuate. What's important is that it's not consistantly using 100+ mA. All the time. I've seen my mA usage go up to 40-50 while idle yet when I checked back moments later it was back down to 1. This is normal behavior.
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Okay, good well right now it's constant at around 10-15 ma, woke up at around 9 with 97% and now at 93% at 11:30 with a few text messages and browsing, I actually think that's a lot better than the past few days. Let's hope it stays that way
Consider your battery drain fixed then. I should note that my idling at 1-2mA is when connected to strong wifi. Your slightly higher consumption is more than likely due to less than great signal strength. Never the less.. you should find that your battery life increases dramatically. Even with 3 bars of 3g here at work I only lost 5% in 3 hours of idling.
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Kudos, I will report if anything changes, because it is only 2 hours into the day
hi all...
soo after my comments over a week ago on the aokp website for this build, i decided afterall to take the plunge and update. i was on b26, so subsequently had to flash b27 and then this. everything has gone absolutely swimmingly with no issues at all so far....
HOWEVER>>>>>
I am faced with a very puzzling quirk. its by nooooo means a problem at all, infact it quite the opposite!!! let me explain.
i've started charging my phone in the evening these days for some stupid reason and then, when charged taking it off and going to bed. After getting this milestone on, my battery has been killed over night, draining to around 15%. Normally, it would drain to around 70% and be flat by the end of the day ready for charging again.
This continued for a few days when i decided to root out the cause of the massive overnite idle drain. I installed a fantastic free app called Badass Battery Monitor (which i highly recommend btw!), and over a period of a couple of days the offending app was weeded out. It was Nova Launcher. This had never happened to me before and couldn't understand it. So, as part of my diagnostics, I decided to confirm the findings by removing it and just using stock.
Over a couple of days monitoring, with exactly the same charging method, my battery levels returned to normal drainage with around 75% battery left by the morning. Fantastic. I had found the problem fixed it and got back to normal. Soooo where is the quirk i here you say!!!? lol Well......
On average, from everything i've read in forums, battery drain overnight while phone in standby is around 20/30%, so mine WAS right up there with the majority of you.
Last night, i decided to charge to full and then wipe battery stats. Which i did. Now, bare in mind here that I ONLY have the standard battery that is supplied with the Galaxy Nexus. I got up this morning, and to my utter amazement, my battery had only drained 2%
Now been incredibly realisting here based on average overnight drains, i was 100% sure that this was deffo an error. I have done everything from restarting the phone, taking the battery out, but still the level in my battery was saying the same.
As I sit here writing this, I have been streaming a radio station via wifi on the phone for the last 2 hrs, and atm my battery is telling me that it is STILL 85% full.
I am DEFFO not complaining, but i'm sure now, you can see why the hell i am so puzzled! HOW THE HELL IS THIS HAPPENING, because i can genuinely find no explanation at all for it
as a follow up, it is now more or less 5 hrs since my orginal post, and my battery is reporting that it is 75% full
Jeesh, 20 to 30 idle drain overnight? My phone drains about 3 to 5 overnight which is typically 8 hours of sleep.
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Interesting quirk. Are you a heavy or a light user? It'd be nice to see how it drains after a full drain and recharge.
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Interesting quirk. Are you a heavy or a light user? It'd be nice to see how it drains after a full drain and recharge.
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well, to see if what was been reported was correct, i've been an absolute heavy user today. i have wifi on, ive streamed radio via internet for around 3 hrs, ive been playing all sorts of games and watched a few youtube vids. and my battery is atm reporting 74% life left
so here i am, STILL very very puzzled..
my battery life is just going and going with no signs of running flat... have a look at these screenshots and give me an explanation as to why i suddenly have a super battery!
MAYBE you really have a super battery or your mobile is glitched and shows the battery like that due to laG?
I'm on miui and I lose 0% overnight. It just depends on the ROM, but 20-30% is ridiculous!
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AOKP MS4 CM9, *goes all day without charging phone *
Ictcreations said:
so here i am, STILL very very puzzled..
my battery life is just going and going with no signs of running flat... have a look at these screenshots and give me an explanation as to why i suddenly have a super battery!
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Your states do not seem super impressive. On most phones the screen is the biggest drain. You show 49% battery with a screen on of only 1 hour. After 33 hours you've only used your phone for 1 hour screen on. Thats VERY little.
I usually get 2.5-3 hours of screen on time for my galaxy nexus.
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I installed a fantastic free app called Badass Battery Monitor (which i highly recommend btw!)
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Thanks for the app recommendation! Been looking for something like it all day.
This will depend on ROM/Radio/Kernel user installed programs/sync etc but 2-6% is normal drain over night anyone with 20% needs to seriously look @ battery stats and work out what's causing wake locks.
Also not forgetting most phones need to bed in after a flash which can take 2-3 days before we see real battery info.