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http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy30ssepc-bk.htm
Still say's under development, but man the thing is fugly IMHO. I am defiantly going to get one from ebay, and why only 3000 mah.
http://cgi.ebay.com/3500mAh-Extende...Accessories&hash=item3cb2c4bb14#ht_4129wt_916
I prefer this back the most. Just so it's entirely even.
why only 3000 mah.
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From what I've seen, Seidio's "3000 mAH" probably has more real capacity than the eBay "3500 mAH" batteries. Seidio's ratings are a little more conservative than most.
The problem is that the battery life you and I will see is determined by both capacity AND the battery's ability to deal with high loads. A lithium battery can supply more total milliamperes for more hours if you're drawing a tiny load than if you're sucking down power like there's no tomorrow. Two batteries that seem to allow you to draw "3500mAH" when you're drawing 1mA might appear to be very, very different when you jack the load up to 100mA, and one that's nominally smaller might actually last 10-25% longer than the larger battery at the higher load.
Right now, there really isn't any good, objective, tamper-proof and relevant standard for rating batteries. It's kind of like the way cheap amplifiers get rated as "PMPO", and expensive amplifiers get rated as "RMS, at X% THD". Even a single-chip amp can probably output 500 watts of power for a millisecond at 100% THD before the chip melts, but an amp that can output 500 watts at .1% THD all afternoon is going to cost quite a bit more money. What's missing from the battery industry spec is the "load" part of the equation that tells you how much current was being drawn when that rating was determined.
Oh, also... I might be imagining things, but it looks like they might have actually liked my idea of making the top layer of the battery overflow the stock battery's footprint to squeeze in a bit more battery capacity in the same thickness
on sale now... 69.99
This will make the phone .86" thick, compared to the stock .55". I had the sedio 3500mah on my incredible which made it .7" thick and that wasn't a problem. I'd love to see some feedback on just how huge a .86" phone feels in your pocket, the picture makes it look gigantic.
Can't testify to any actual dimensions, but I do know that I saw a guy with a Seidio battery on his EVO and to me, it actually felt better with the extra size and weight from the battery. It didn't make his EVO seem extra bulky or anything like that, and I think that should be the case with this battery for the Epic.
I want to get this battery, but 2 major things are stopping me:
1. The price is $70. Hrm...between the cheaper extended battery options and the cheaper spare batteries, it's hard to justify $70 for the Seidio battery, especially if the other cheaper batteries seem to last long enough.
2. There's no case for the back - this is the more important reason for me...I can get over the cost of the battery if it's worth it, but how do you protect the back of this thing? And if I leave the top half of my case on, then my phone will look extra ugly and ghetto. They need to make a case and/or more rugged battery cover for those of us that don't want to carry our phones fully or half naked.
IMO a real man lets his phone go naked.
Seriously, I've never used a case for any smartphone. Never had a problem either. But I do carry TEP on every device.
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Can't testify to any actual dimensions, but I do know that I saw a guy with a Seidio battery on his EVO and to me, it actually felt better with the extra size and weight from the battery. It didn't make his EVO seem extra bulky or anything like that, and I think that should be the case with this battery for the Epic.
I want to get this battery, but 2 major things are stopping me:
1. The price is $70. Hrm...between the cheaper extended battery options and the cheaper spare batteries, it's hard to justify $70 for the Seidio battery, especially if the other cheaper batteries seem to last long enough.
2. There's no case for the back - this is the more important reason for me...I can get over the cost of the battery if it's worth it, but how do you protect the back of this thing? And if I leave the top half of my case on, then my phone will look extra ugly and ghetto. They need to make a case and/or more rugged battery cover for those of us that don't want to carry our phones fully or half naked.
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To address your issues:
1) The price is $56 with 20% off coupon code "XMAS20" (without the quotes). I think that's very reasonable, especially when you consider the stock battery with charger is $50 from Sprint.
2) Seidio always end up making cases for their extended battery backs. The back to this unit is best looking one I've seen out of the extended batteries thus far, and give it a month or so and I'm sure there'll be a case you can purchase as well. I personally prefer leaving my phone naked
...yes, I did just order one. $56 well spent, I say - but we'll leave the final decision for when I actually get it and put it through proper use.
Please test the battery to figure out the real world mAh from the battery. I am very interested. If its anything like other Seido extended batteries, I expect it to be around 2450 mAh in reality.
Any input?
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To address your issues:
1) The price is $56 with 20% off coupon code "XMAS20" (without the quotes). I think that's very reasonable, especially when you consider the stock battery with charger is $50 from Sprint.
2) Seidio always end up making cases for their extended battery backs. The back to this unit is best looking one I've seen out of the extended batteries thus far, and give it a month or so and I'm sure there'll be a case you can purchase as well. I personally prefer leaving my phone naked
...yes, I did just order one. $56 well spent, I say - but we'll leave the final decision for when I actually get it and put it through proper use.
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Well you've sold me...if they come out with a decently priced battery+case combo, then I'll definitely go for the Seidio option. As far as I see, none of the other extended batteries have any case options.
brianbrain said:
To address your issues:
1) The price is $56 with 20% off coupon code "XMAS20" (without the quotes). I think that's very reasonable, especially when you consider the stock battery with charger is $50 from Sprint.
2) Seidio always end up making cases for their extended battery backs. The back to this unit is best looking one I've seen out of the extended batteries thus far, and give it a month or so and I'm sure there'll be a case you can purchase as well. I personally prefer leaving my phone naked
...yes, I did just order one. $56 well spent, I say - but we'll leave the final decision for when I actually get it and put it through proper use.
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I just ordered the extended battery and the separate battery charger. Thanks for the Coupon Code. As far as Seidio making cases for their extended battery backs, I've found this isn't the case at all. I bought the extended battery for the Treo 800w and also the HTC Hero and they never came out with an Innocase or anything else, for that matter, for either, although they said they would.
Another option that I've used for the Seidio extended battery is www.mobilecity.com. They had the Hero battery for $20 less than Seidioonline. Right now they list the Epic battery for $59, but the Coupon Code beats that price right now. As of today they don't have it in stock yet. http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26868
Just add a kickstand and im sold!
Does anyone have the Seidio extended battery? If so could someone post pictures of the thickness? I'm interested in the seidio battery because i don't like just having 1 hump on the battery case like the 2800 extended battery available on ebay. Plus seidio is known to have awesome extended batteries. If the phone is given a horrible thickness i'd totally buy it. Anyone with the 2800 have a hard time texting or using the game gripper for playing roms? Is it comfortable?
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Does anyone have the Seidio extended battery? If so could someone post pictures of the thickness? I'm interested in the seidio battery because i don't like just having 1 hump on the battery case like the 2800 extended battery available on ebay. Plus seidio is known to have awesome extended batteries. If the phone is given a horrible thickness i'd totally buy it. Anyone with the 2800 have a hard time texting or using the game gripper for playing roms? Is it comfortable?
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Going off a rough measurement its barely thicker then an Epic with a Seidio Innocase on (about the thickness of a quarter).
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Anyone with the 2800 have a hard time texting or using the game gripper for playing roms? Is it comfortable?
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I have the 2800 one. It is fine for texting. It definitely adds to the weight of the phone. I don't have the game gripper, but I can still play the racing games just fine. Well, I haven't gotten very far in the game, but I chalk that up to my poor gaming skills to begin with.
Are there any facts that show the cheaper 2800-3000 batteries on ebay are not as good seidio's batteries??? I don't wan to buy something cheap that doesn't last very long.
There is not that I know of. Seido might last a few more charge cycles, but the 3500 mAh battery that I bought and tested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864638
is the same thickness, has a true mAh rating around 2800-2900 mAh and works perfectly well with the game gripper. You can also buy these batteries for 12 dollars shipped, so even with the Seido coupon you could have 5 of the 3500 mAh batteries for the same price. And the Seido battery isn't going to have 5 times the cycles than the 3500 mAh ones.
Also, this Seido battery will have a real life rating of around 2400 mAh, if its anything like previous Seido extended batteries.
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There is not that I know of. Seido might last a few more charge cycles, but the 3500 mAh battery that I bought and tested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864638
is the same thickness, has a true mAh rating around 2800-2900 mAh and works perfectly well with the game gripper. You can also buy these batteries for 12 dollars shipped, so even with the Seido coupon you could have 5 of the 3500 mAh batteries for the same price. And the Seido battery isn't going to have 5 times the cycles than the 3500 mAh ones.
Also, this Seido battery will have a real life rating of around 2400 mAh, if its anything like previous Seido extended batteries.
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Based off cosmetics do you think it would be more comfortable having the entire case thicker like the seidio battery case? or is the 3500 mah comfortable enough? Also does it feel odd in your pocket? This is a hard decision for me. Maybe its just me but I like buying the good brand because of the name but the cosmetics of the seidio just look nicer to me than the one you have. This is a tough decision. I understand the battery life but now its all up to looks and feel. hmm.
I am considering an extended battery for the S4 because mine doesn't last me through the day with my current use. I know that the 5200 mAh from Hyperion is as thick as 2 batteries combined and the Zerolemon 7500 mAh is three batteries, but not all stacked up but rather in a shape of a pyramid. So the thickness would be the same?
I know they are both bulky, but I was wondering if the 5200 would be thinner?
Or if they would be add the same amount of thickness to the phone?
Is they are both the same thickness, the clear winner is the ZL.
Thanks!
I can't comment on the batteries for the S4, but I have one friend who has the Hyperion Battery and one that has the ZL Battery for the GS3, tthe ZL battery is quite a bit thicker, but it is a pretty sweet battery.
I'd say buy both and send back the one you aren't going to use.
This is something I would like to know 2. I just bought the 5200ma from hyperion dreading it because I thought it would be so uncomfortable to use, but it's actually not bad at all. The charge is great too.
If the ZL is only a bit thicker than the 5200ma then I will sell this one and buy the ZL. If anyone with the ZL can get the thickness of the phone and battery on. That would be awesome.
I'll post a pic with the dimensions of the phone + battery (5200ma) with a caliper tomorrow when I get to work
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This is something I would like to know 2. I just bought the 5200ma from hyperion dreading it because I thought it would be so uncomfortable to use, but it's actually not bad at all. The charge is great too.
If the ZL is only a bit thicker than the 5200ma then I will sell this one and buy the ZL. If anyone with the ZL can get the thickness of the phone and battery on. That would be awesome.
I'll post a pic with the dimensions of the phone + battery (5200ma) with a caliper tomorrow when I get to work
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With ZL 7500mAh battery + casing on the phone dimensions are:
thickness is 18mm
width is 75mm
height is 146mm
I just used an onscreen ruler to take measurements but i'm pretty sure it's accurate.
Got the 5200mAh Hyperion coming with the extra nicer case tomorrow, I can try to post back with some better pics then the last reviewer. Otherwise he made a great review.
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ZeroLemon 7500mah uses 2 batteries - one the size of OEM and one longer and wider than one that sits on top of the first one. It's an ingenious design.
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ZeroLemon 7500mah uses 2 batteries - one the size of OEM and one longer and wider than one that sits on top of the first one. It's an ingenious design.
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Agreed, if you can fit it in your pocket.... :what: but it'll be nice to have for long trips on the motorcycle.
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The 5200 Hyperion on the phone measures at 14.2mm thick. Height and height don't change
So the ZL is not much bigger than the 5200
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So I'm guessing from some of the replies that the 7500 isn't that much thicker than the 5200? maybe a 4-5mm difference? If someone could post pictures of a comparison between the two, that would be great. I'm sure not alot of people have both since people with 7500 have no reason to go down to 5200. But if someone with a 7500 and someone with a 5200 could post a picture of the thickness and then I might be to able to combine the two to make it easier to see a direct side by side comparison and I would post the picture of the side by side back to this forum for everyone to see. Thanks for the replies so far!
So how is both battery's quality! It like OEM
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any result or pics available yet? Actually I want to get a 7500 mAh battery as sell, where do u find it
I'll post some pictures of my 5200 later on today. I don't have a 7200 but I'm definitely getting one after finding out its only 4mm thicker.
Battery life is really good on the 5200. Pretty much double stock. For me it's barely enough for what I need so the 7200 will be more than enough. Awesome.
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I have and recommend both, but the charge in the Zerolemon battery seems to last a good three or four days.
if yas want a battery that is so hard to kill in a day i highly suggest getting the ZL! i love it...im going to paint the white casing soon though as it collects grime and looks dirty!! its amazing what comes off your clean hands. I am pulling 12-13hrs of onscreen time per full charge at the moment with moderate use and i play racing games etc for a few hours plus use chat apps with wifi on and general news reading apps..its just amazing...and its just getting better.
i cant switch to a lower size battery ever again.
even when the battery is down to 10percent youre safe to go out for the night and still know u wont kill the battery for atleast another 2hrs of onscreen time or more..its just crazy.
Edite: It also fits nicely in my work shirt top pocket buttoned up and i dont even notice the weight of it. Shame i dont have scales...hey now theres an idea for the next gen phones..they should put a scale under the screen for people to weigh things in grams haha...anyway ZL ALL THE WAY!!
20% battery left ...i think i will still easily get 3hrs of onscreen time...its just getting better and better the more times i run it dead than recharge. only recharged it from dead to full 3 times in 9 days since getting it.
I'm on my first full discharge on the Zero Lemon 7500mAh battery after having it plugged in for 12 hours as they suggest when you first get it, and so far I'm down to 46% after 1 day, 4 and a half hours, with 5 and a half hours screen time.
Just got my Hyperion 5200 battery with shiny black cover and also got the matching case from them that fits this combo. Now this thing finally feels like a phone. Factory is just too skinny for me.
Very much like this combo.
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I have both Onite and Anker 5200 batteries (they're identical) and a ZeroLemon 7500 battery. In real life practice, the ZL batter + case isn't significantly thicker at all...but it's much heavier. I use either of the 5200 batts for daily use, the ZL 7500 for when I know I'm going to be without a charger for awhile (camping, exploring a new city where I use GPS and full brightness all the time), and the stock batt when size and weight are a priority (going out at night).
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I have both Onite and Anker 5200 batteries (they're identical) and a ZeroLemon 7500 battery. In real life practice, the ZL batter + case isn't significantly thicker at all...but it's much heavier. I use either of the 5200 batts for daily use, the ZL 7500 for when I know I'm going to be without a charger for awhile (camping, exploring a new city where I use GPS and full brightness all the time), and the stock batt when size and weight are a priority (going out at night).
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the protection from the ZL case is much better than the hyperion TPU for the extended case.
Personally, I'd stick to stock and ZL and just keep the 4500/5200 mah batteries out of the loop.
If you have a otterbox defender like myself and it's a pain to change batteries, you find yourself sticking to zero lemon exclusively.
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Any loss of signal with the ZL?
I want t get the ZL 7500 one and use it for trips or days I won't be near a charger at all.
now that you had your battery for a while, what are your 2 cent for every day use?
I have been reading all the threads on the extended batteries and wanted to hear from people that have both the seidio 4500 and the 3000 zero lemon. I have the 7500 Zerolemon for my phone right now. Although the battery is nice, I don't get crazy numbers like some people on here. (12 hours screen on time!!) I've had the battery for a week and my most has been about 7 hours. Which is still crazy good, but I miss the feeling of the slim phone. This thing made my basketball shorts sag like crazy today and realized this thing might be too big.
Saw the Seidio one and someone posted a picture of it by a quarter. So I measured mine by a quarter and the seidio seems alot thinner. So now I'm deciding between the Seidio and the 3000 ZL. I just need something thats going to last me a day since I will be charging it every night. Also I am a heavy user.
I was wondering if the back of the Seidio is noticeably fatter and heavier or not really? If not i'm leaning towards the Seidio.
Also which one would you guys prefer between these two?
choboii said:
I have been reading all the threads on the extended batteries and wanted to hear from people that have both the seidio 4500 and the 3000 zero lemon. I have the 7500 Zerolemon for my phone right now. Although the battery is nice, I don't get crazy numbers like some people on here. (12 hours screen on time!!) I've had the battery for a week and my most has been about 7 hours. Which is still crazy good, but I miss the feeling of the slim phone. This thing made my basketball shorts sag like crazy today and realized this thing might be too big.
Saw the Seidio one and someone posted a picture of it by a quarter. So I measured mine by a quarter and the seidio seems alot thinner. So now I'm deciding between the Seidio and the 3000 ZL. I just need something thats going to last me a day since I will be charging it every night. Also I am a heavy user.
I was wondering if the back of the Seidio is noticeably fatter and heavier or not really? If not i'm leaning towards the Seidio.
Also which one would you guys prefer between these two?
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I imagine that you will be needing a case that is relatively useful if you are playing basketball with it in your shorts, so when you do size comparisons, I suggest you compare the seidio with the extended case on it. I don't think you gain much in regards to width at that point, but it will be lighter and not weigh your shorts down as much.
I'm very skeptical about the zerolemon 3000 mah battery, only because a lot of the 3rd party manufacturers are really 80-90% of their said rating, but to each their own. If you had 13 percent more battery than stock, would it be enough for your daily use, if not, then I'd go with the seidio or stick with the zl 7500.
I have both the ZL 7500 and the Seidio 4500 and I much prefer the latter. The ZL is just too heavy and too.. blocky for me. What saves the Seidio is the much lighter weight and the fact that it's beveled enough so that the angels lie much better in your hands. It manages not to feel very thick at all.
It's going to be my daily battery while I'll keep the ZL for times when I'll be away from charging for quite some time (then I'll probably bring both though).
And I actually think I might prefer the Seidio over the stock battery when it comes to handling the phone as well. It just lies very well in your hand. A tad slippery though so I picked up a case for it on ebay that I hope will fit, if it doesn't I'll probably buy their own case with the kick stand.
Obscure Reference said:
I have both the ZL 7500 and the Seidio 4500 and I much prefer the latter. The ZL is just too heavy and too.. blocky for me. What saves the Seidio is the much lighter weight and the fact that it's beveled enough so that the angels lie much better in your hands. It manages not to feel very thick at all.
It's going to be my daily battery while I'll keep the ZL for times when I'll be away from charging for quite some time (then I'll probably bring both though).
And I actually think I might prefer the Seidio over the stock battery when it comes to handling the phone as well. It just lies very well in your hand. A tad slippery though so I picked up a case for it on ebay that I hope will fit, if it doesn't I'll probably buy their own case with the kick stand.
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Whats your battery life between the two? How's the 4500 match up to the 7500??
You can get (2) ZeroLemon 3000 mAh with a charger for $19 and not need a new battery door or have issues with cases. To me that is far more effective and possibly a way I would go. Just not too familiar with how well ZeroLemon batteries hold up, read a lot of good reviews but no personal experience yet.
I totally agree that getting 2 ZeroLemon 3000 mAh with a charger for $19 is certainly a great deal, but my concern is this, that every time that a battery goes dead you are popping off the back door of your device and taking a chance of something happening. I rather pay $50.00 for a battery that has double that amount and not have to pop the back off. So, that brings me to an another problem, if you were to get a battery doubled that amount, chances are that you are going to need a new door , thus making your phone fatter and unable to fit the OtterBox case. I maybe wrong, I am just speculating from my experience from my other phone I had.
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Whats your battery life between the two? How's the 4500 match up to the 7500??
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Well.. the numbers speak for themselves don't they?
The ZL lasts a lot longer than the Seidio. It ought to last longer than the Seidio and the stock battery combined so it's a great battery. Just too bulky and heavy for me.
I still have it and it saved the day during a festival I went to. Burned through both the stock battery and the seidio and had to go to the ZL on the last day. Probably could've lasted through the whole event on the ZL but I didn't want something that heavy in my pocket all the time. Just kept all thre batteries in my backpack instead.
So.. it depends on your needs really.
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Well.. the numbers speak for themselves don't they?
The ZL lasts a lot longer than the Seidio. It ought to last longer than the Seidio and the stock battery combined so it's a great battery. Just too bulky and heavy for me.
I still have it and it saved the day during a festival I went to. Burned through both the stock battery and the seidio and had to go to the ZL on the last day. Probably could've lasted through the whole event on the ZL but I didn't want something that heavy in my pocket all the time. Just kept all thre batteries in my backpack instead.
So.. it depends on your needs really.
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Yeah, I have both now also... got them yesterday, was just curious about life, because some batteries are a little better quality than others. but yes, ZL obviously is better as far as lasting longer.. I prefer the Seidio tho...
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Yeah, I have both now also... got them yesterday, was just curious about life, because some batteries are a little better quality than others. but yes, ZL obviously is better as far as lasting longer.. I prefer the Seidio tho...
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So is the Seidio significantly lighter and thinner?
I went with Anker dual 2600 since it had prime shipping and would prefer to keep same size phone; if I had time I prob would have ordered the Zero Lemon (prob will in future). Will report how the 2 2600 and charger hold up on my trip
I'm noticing that the ring around the volume button is pretty much flush with the back cover. However, the battery is like 5mm thinner than that ring. Could that be another potential 100mah?
Tl;dr: the battery could be slightly thicker than it is, and still fit under the stock cover.
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No one's ever done a slightly thicker replacement battery for any phone unfortunately. Only double thickness or Zerolemon's TriCell.
Mugen makes a 3100mAh battery for the G3 and G4, however, they are not cheap. It is very likely they will also make one for the V10
recommend the original LG OEM battery to ensure better battery life.
Yeah, most "3000" batteries are less then average quality. So best bet is original battery unless you want to get a thick battery.
I'm using mpj 6000mah for my G3 and while being huge and heavy, it performs great.
Though I start to consider powerbanks instead of extra batteries. 6000-10000Mah powerbanks aren't really much bigger then regular batteries so it's more or less the same on "carry-aspect".
Yes, replacing a battery is the quickest way to load back to 100% but powerbanks have much wider functionality and it's much easier to charge them once they dry out.
Why would you guys prefer an extra battery over a powerbank?
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Yeah, most "3000" batteries are less then average quality. So best bet is original battery unless you want to get a thick battery.
I'm using mpj 6000mah for my G3 and while being huge and heavy, it performs great.
Though I start to consider powerbanks instead of extra batteries. 6000-10000Mah powerbanks aren't really much bigger then regular batteries so it's more or less the same on "carry-aspect".
Yes, replacing a battery is the quickest way to load back to 100% but powerbanks have much wider functionality and it's much easier to charge them once they dry out.
Why would you guys prefer an extra battery over a powerbank?
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No wires. No heat. Instant charge. Smaller. Etc.
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tersagun said:
Yeah, most "3000" batteries are less then average quality. So best bet is original battery unless you want to get a thick battery.
I'm using mpj 6000mah for my G3 and while being huge and heavy, it performs great.
Though I start to consider powerbanks instead of extra batteries. 6000-10000Mah powerbanks aren't really much bigger then regular batteries so it's more or less the same on "carry-aspect".
Yes, replacing a battery is the quickest way to load back to 100% but powerbanks have much wider functionality and it's much easier to charge them once they dry out.
Why would you guys prefer an extra battery over a powerbank?
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I would normally prefer an extra battery over a power bank since it's easier to fit in my pocket. Also, I'd rather not wait around for my phone to charge. That's about it.
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I have to report a huge increase in functionality when adding three things: Oreo, the official v20 charging cradle and an extended 6,700 mAh battery that actually fits in the official charging cradle. If you use a 3.0 charging station the battery will charge quickly. I just ordered a second battery ($25.90 each on Amazon) so I can l use my phone as a hot spot with my Samsung Chromebook Pro for long stretches. It's not SUPER THICK like the popular 10,000 mAh extended battery that I also have, instead the 6,700 mAh battery keeps it way more doable for every day use. I also notice that the battery heat issues from the stock 3,300 mAh size battery are not a big issue anymore. The hot battery was giving really bad display image issues. And the other extended batteries would not fit in any of the official or aftermarket battery charging cradles so I could only charge those big batteries in the phone which meant it had to be done when plugged into the wall. The Oreo update (Verizon) has massively improved my battery time. With extended battery I'm getting closer and closer to 8 hours screen on time and the phone still fits in my button dowm shirt front pocket. I was barely hitting 3 hours SOT with the stock 3,300 batteries (I have 5 that I picked up cheap). I guess I can now wait for that Note 9 to come down in price even if the black Friday deal is weak sauce.
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I have to report a huge increase in functionality when adding three things: Oreo, the official v20 charging cradle and an extended 6,700 mAh battery that actually fits in the official charging cradle. If you use a 3.0 charging station the battery will charge quickly. I just ordered a second battery ($25.90 each on Amazon) so I can l use my phone as a hot spot with my Samsung Chromebook Pro for long stretches. It's not SUPER THICK like the popular 10,000 mAh extended battery that I also have, instead the 6,700 mAh battery keeps it way more doable for every day use. I also notice that the battery heat issues from the stock 3,300 mAh size battery are not a big issue anymore. The hot battery was giving really bad display image issues. And the other extended batteries would not fit in any of the official or aftermarket battery charging cradles so I could only charge those big batteries in the phone which meant it had to be done when plugged into the wall. The Oreo update (Verizon) has massively improved my battery time. With extended battery I'm getting closer and closer to 8 hours screen on time and the phone still fits in my button dowm shirt front pocket. I was barely hitting 3 hours SOT with the stock 3,300 batteries (I have 5 that I picked up cheap). I guess I can now wait for that Note 9 to come down in price even if the black Friday deal is weak sauce.
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Hi Aintree, what is the battery called, and link? please if you dont mind.
Thanks for sharing your results. This is why I appreciate the ability to remove the battery, and despite some of the V20's flaws(mostly software), I consider it one of the last "great phones" out there due to it's user replaceable battery, among other features (even the IR blaster, not to mention the headphone jack... can't believe Sony removed the 3.5mm from their latest phones...!!!)
ssnova said:
Thanks for sharing your results. This is why I appreciate the ability to remove the battery, and despite some of the V20's flaws(mostly software), I consider it one of the last "great phones" out there due to it's user replaceable battery, among other features (even the IR blaster, not to mention the headphone jack... can't believe Sony removed the 3.5mm from their latest phones...!!!)
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I honestly don't see the software flaw. it's flawless and buttery smooth. Despite the slow updates, its the best phone. You can customize the UI from play store themes without having CM ROMS or any special thing. Samsung does have that, and is very limited.
YPG70 said:
Hi Aintree, what is the battery called, and link? please if you dont mind.
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iPosible battery $25.90 on Amazon
But just FYI without the official V20 charging cradle (the little white one with the door) I was getting very slow charging for some reason. I had it plugged into a Quick Charge 3.0 port the lightning bolt icon would appear to show it was quick charge capable but it would charge really slowly over 4 hours once from 15% to 80%. With the V20 cradle it charged from 0 to 100% in about 2 hours abd 15 minutes.
YPG70 said:
I honestly don't see the software flaw. it's flawless and buttery smooth. Despite the slow updates, its the best phone. You can customize the UI from play store themes without having CM ROMS or any special thing. Samsung does have that, and is very limited.
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"slow updates", that's mostly what I was referring to when describing it's "flaws" (security patches especially...). But yeah, hardware wise, it's a great phone
Aintree Porsche said:
It's not SUPER THICK like the popular 10,000 mAh extended battery that I also have, instead the 6,700 mAh battery keeps it way more doable for every day use.
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How's the grip on this case ?
I also notice that the battery heat issues from the stock 3,300 mAh size battery are not a big issue anymore.The hot battery was giving really bad display image issues.
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I never had heat issues with the stock battery
And the other extended batteries would not fit in any of the official or aftermarket battery charging cradles so I could only charge those big batteries in the phone which meant it had to be done when plugged into the wall.
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Good point. You mentioned this battery works in the official charging cradle which i have.
Link to the actual product described which is missing in this thread so far
https://www.amazon.com/iPosible-Extended-Protection-Versions-Warranty/dp/B071R2NZH9
One Twelve said:
How's the grip on this case ?
I never had heat issues with the stock battery
Good point. You mentioned this battery works in the official charging cradle which i have.
Link to the actual product described which is missing in this thread so far
https://www.amazon.com/iPosible-Extended-Protection-Versions-Warranty/dp/B071R2NZH9
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Yep that's the one.
I shouldn't have said heat issue, the phone getting hot in the the last 15% of battery is not unheard of. But it definitely seems to make the image retention/ghosting or whatever you want to call it, worse. The solution for me seems to be to use a battery that will be more likely to keep you above 15% if you are a heavy user. 6700 mAh will do the trick. Better than stock by double but not like carrying a stapler in your pocket with 10,000 maAh. Btw, I've had that screen issue on two V10's and two V20's. Actually it happened sooner with the V20. Major flaw of this type of display.
Grip on the case is fine. The standard black matte finish type rubber that has plenty of flex albeit a little on the stiff side. I use Di-Noc carbon fiber wrap on most of my devices like the back od my laptop, my FiiO DAC, phone cases even my bicycle frame. I might cut out a square for this one.
ssnova said:
Thanks for sharing your results. This is why I appreciate the ability to remove the battery, and despite some of the V20's flaws(mostly software), I consider it one of the last "great phones" out there due to it's user replaceable battery, among other features (even the IR blaster, not to mention the headphone jack... can't believe Sony removed the 3.5mm from their latest phones...!!!)
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Yeah that was dumb by Sony to remove the headphone jack. They basically lost all the audio enthusiasts. Bluetooth has come a long way but it will never have the sound stage of a top end corded headphone. I would have gone with a Sony phone if they worked well or at all on Verizon. Their 4K phones have by far the best displays on the market. OLED is great and all but you can't beat the realism of a Sony 4K display. It's like looking through a glass window. No yellowy tinge of the OLED displays.
Further to your Bluetooth comment.
In the Oreo update Google put in a new codec called LDAC, this codec was developed by Sony but surprisingly left open source by them for others to use.
There are a few other manufacturers besides the Sony Bluetooth models (earbuds, speakers, etc) that are just coming to market.
The interesting part is that the LDAC codec is head and shoulders above the previous best AptX HD. I'm no expert but I think as this codec takes hold that it could give equal performance to wireless outside of the audiophile domain ($$$$$).
I can see in the not to distant future that I'm going to purchase a set of Bluetooth LDAC earbuds to give them a try.
In the "developer options" in Oreo settings if you scroll down there is a section for Bluetooth that lets you set the codec - if you want to see.
You should read up on LDAC if you haven't already, I found it interesting.
Aintree Porsche said:
Yeah that was dumb by Sony to remove the headphone jack. They basically lost all the audio enthusiasts. Bluetooth has come a long way but it will never have the sound stage of a top end corded headphone. I would have gone with a Sony phone if they worked well or at all on Verizon. Their 4K phones have by far the best displays on the market. OLED is great and all but you can't beat the realism of a Sony 4K display. It's like looking through a glass window. No yellowy tinge of the OLED displays.
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Yep that's the one.
I shouldn't have said heat issue, the phone getting hot in the the last 15% of battery is not unheard of. But it definitely seems to make the image retention/ghosting or whatever you want to call it, worse. The solution for me seems to be to use a battery that will be more likely to keep you above 15% if you are a heavy user. 6700 mAh will do the trick. Better than stock by double but not like carrying a stapler in your pocket with 10,000 maAh. Btw, I've had that screen issue on two V10's and two V20's. Actually it happened sooner with the V20. Major flaw of this type of display.
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10,000 is too big. 6000 more manageable.
What's your brightness set to in % usually ?
I've never had any image retention problems and the reason i suspect is i don't need more than 25% indoors.
Brighter the screen, hotter it runs, quicker battery runs down and in turn also heats as the power draw is higher.
Grip on the case is fine. The standard black matte finish type rubber that has plenty of flex albeit a little on the stiff side. I use Di-Noc carbon fiber wrap on most of my devices like the back od my laptop, my FiiO DAC, phone cases even my bicycle frame. I might cut out a square for this one.
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Looks quite thick compared to what dbrand and similar sells.
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10,000 is too big. 6000 more manageable.
What's your brightness set to in % usually ?
I've never had any image retention problems and the reason i suspect is i don't need more than 25% indoors.
Brighter the screen, hotter it runs, quicker battery runs down and in turn also heats as the power draw is higher.
Looks quite thick compared to what dbrand and similar sells.
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I always run my screens at least 70% brightness. 100% outside which is often. I figure If I'm going to have the ability to not worry about battery life then I should put the display to the durability test. I've never had burn in or image retention issues with any Apple, Moto, Nexus or Samsung device display. After 10pm I run blue light so I don't get a weird sleep issue. But it's funny that image issues finally came to one of my phones and it happened on this device first before OLEDs despite their infamous history of burn in.
The Dbrand skins look nice. But I can get a roll of 3M Do-Noc for the same price. Wrapping a square or rectangular shape is about a simple as it gets. And it looks Better than stock.
No backcover - could be problematic
One Twelve said:
How's the grip on this case ?
I never had heat issues with the stock battery
Good point. You mentioned this battery works in the official charging cradle which i have.
Link to the actual product described which is missing in this thread so far
https://www.amazon.com/iPosible-Extended-Protection-Versions-Warranty/dp/B071R2NZH9
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- I had it delivered today and after about 3 hours of use ended but returning it because it does not come with a backcover. It comes with a rubber case that is somewhat loose and will no doubt allow dust and maybe even moisture to leak into the phone easily. Could be problematic especially if you are more on the active side - I like hiking and trekking. Ended up ordering a combo Pefine 6400mah extended battery along with the Hyperion extended battery TPU case. The backcover on the Perfine is plastic, but should STILL offers the needed protection and the Hyperion case will fit on top of that which will prevent the backcover from breaking.
If the iPosible battery is the same depth as the Perfine, perhaps the backcover can fit as well but I cant seem to find an extended battery backcover on Amazon.
Perfine battery (comes with 2 backcovers) [Amazon.com]
Hyperion Case [Amazon.com]
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- I had it delivered today and after about 3 hours of use ended but returning it because it does not come with a backcover. It comes with a rubber case that is somewhat loose and will no doubt allow dust and maybe even moisture to leak into the phone easily. Could be problematic especially if you are more on the active side - I like hiking and trekking. Ended up ordering a combo Pefine 6400mah extended battery along with the Hyperion extended battery TPU case. The backcover on the Perfine is plastic, but should STILL offers the needed protection and the Hyperion case will fit on top of that which will prevent the backcover from breaking.
If the iPosible battery is the same depth as the Perfine, perhaps the backcover can fit as well but I cant seem to find an extended battery backcover on Amazon.
Perfine battery (comes with 2 backcovers) [Amazon.com]
Hyperion Case [Amazon.com]
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I think they should send you a new case. Mine is a very tight fit. Much tighter than the other cases I use like Spigen which peel right off with one hand almost.
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I think they should send you a new case. Mine is a very tight fit. Much tighter than the other cases I use like Spigen which peel right off with one hand almost.
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Perhaps you are right. The case I recived other than having many scuffs was loose. The Spigen likewise is also just a case. The backcover that Im taking about is the piece of tin or plastic that covers the internals (like the metal backcover that comes with the stock lg phone). A case should slip on top of the backcover. In the case of the iPosible, its the battery + the rubber case - no backcover. It might absorb shock but not sure how because well it insulates the internals from dust or water since its rubber and is elastic and not as waterproof. The v20 is not advertised as waterproof in the first place so this would make it more vulnerable to environment.
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Perhaps you are right. The case I recived other than having many scuffs was loose. The Spigen likewise is also just a case. The backcover that Im taking about is the piece of tin or plastic that covers the internals (like the metal backcover that comes with the stock lg phone). A case should slip on top of the backcover. In the case of the iPosible, its the battery + the rubber case - no backcover. It might absorb shock but not sure how because well it insulates the internals from dust or water since its rubber and is elastic and not as waterproof. The v20 is not advertised as waterproof in the first place so this would make it more vulnerable to environment.
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I have been using the perfine battery with the plastic battery case for 4 months now and, it has been the best decision that I have did on two H918's that I have. They are available on Amazon right now.
scorpio76r said:
I have been using the perfine battery with the plastic battery case for 4 months now and, it has been the best decision that I have did on two H918's that I have. They are available on Amazon right now.
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Yeah it's not as secure as having a back cover. But I have never used these to reduce weight. On most cases the fit is tight enough to keep the battery in place. If you ever do have an issue and the little strip for water damage turns red but the phone is otherwise fine you can turn the strip white again by taking q-tip and small amount of Clorox bleach and the red will go away.
Update on Screen On Time. Pretty incredible for this phone.
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Yeah it's not as secure as having a back cover. But I have never used these to reduce weight. On most cases the fit is tight enough to keep the battery in place. If you ever do have an issue and the little strip for water damage turns red but the phone is otherwise fine you can turn the strip white again by taking q-tip and small amount of Clorox bleach and the red will go away.
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I have had no issues since using the battery or included back case. Water has not been a issue either. I don't submerge it in water or anything but, rain, light spills etc. My two devices have been good.
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I have had no issues since using the battery or included back case. Water has not been a issue either. I don't submerge it in water or anything but, rain, light spills etc. My two devices have been good.
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How's the grip no the back of that perfine case. Looks slippery to me.
Id just swap batteries if i wanted and retain the same form factor but with a case of my choice or one that takes my fancy on the particular day.