Does anyone know of an app that you can use to track your phone without an active data/internet connection? Basically something that can run on GPS only. I have a Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0 which does not have SMS/Calling/3g/4g etc... All it has is Wifi and GPS. I would like to somehow be able to track my location if I am not in a wifi hotspot. The other downside is I use the lock screen on the phone. If someone steals it chances are it could be quite some time before the phone would actually connect to a network (considering there wouldn't be any way for them to get to the wifi settings to log into a network).
Does anyone know of anything like this? Is it possible?
Wont be possible without either data/internet connection or cell/texting service. GPS will show the location on the device, but you have to transmit that somehow.
GPS is purely passive, you don't send anything and neither do satelites transmit something specific to you.
You just grab what ever signals you can find, and if its enough calculate the current position.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
Hi guys
I do not own the watch yet but have just been informed that apparently the WiFi model still relies on a smartphone to connect to the internet, is this true?
(I was told that the WiFi in the watch is simply a WiFi direct and that it will not work when the phone is off.)
My use case is the following: I wish to write my own applications for it that can connect to WiFi networks independently of the phone and can make API queries from Javascript
without using my phone's internet connection but instead directly connecting to,say, my company's wifi. Is this possible?
I know that without my smartphone active, the watch obviously won't have access to my smartphone notifications, but that is not what I am looking for in a watch anyway.
My ideas are going more in the direction of querying my own API for my server(via json) so I can keep an eye on its status. Does such a thing work with the smartphone being off, or is this something that works exclusively with the 3G version of the S2? I would love to get the 3G model, but it isn't being sold in my country.
Nik
Yes, it is possible. The watch connects to the WiFi by itself... You don't need the phone for that
endeebee said:
Hi guys
I do not own the watch yet but have just been informed that apparently the WiFi model still relies on a smartphone to connect to the internet, is this true?
(I was told that the WiFi in the watch is simply a WiFi direct and that it will not work when the phone is off.)
My use case is the following: I wish to write my own applications for it that can connect to WiFi networks independently of the phone and can make API queries from Javascript
without using my phone's internet connection but instead directly connecting to,say, my company's wifi. Is this possible?
I know that without my smartphone active, the watch obviously won't have access to my smartphone notifications, but that is not what I am looking for in a watch anyway.
My ideas are going more in the direction of querying my own API for my server(via json) so I can keep an eye on its status. Does such a thing work with the smartphone being off, or is this something that works exclusively with the 3G version of the S2? I would love to get the 3G model, but it isn't being sold in my country.
Nik
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Yes, using WIFI to connect other than the watch is doable, the problem that I had was the battery drain, it drained the battery in 3 hours when I have the WIFI set to on. so now I only use it Bluetooth to my phone, and with that, it lasts 2-3 days without a charge.
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I was wandering, whats with the gps in s3? It says that is an standalone gps but i cant have a lock unless i am connected to a mobile phone using location mode. As far as i know this standalone gps, without phone works only with s health but whats with the other apps? When will be or will there be at all fix to that problem.. I would like to use that standalone gps on maps or some other app aswell.. thx
Make sure in settings that location is using GPS and cellular network to get a fix.There is an app called Gear Navigator S that is a standalone. It works without being paired to a phone. Now how useful it is given a 1" screen is another matter...
WiseDog85 said:
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I was wandering, whats with the gps in s3? It says that is an standalone gps but i cant have a lock unless i am connected to a mobile phone using location mode. As far as i know this standalone gps, without phone works only with s health but whats with the other apps? When will be or will there be at all fix to that problem.. I would like to use that standalone gps on maps or some other app aswell.. thx
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I've used the standalone gps with several apps and my phone not available. I really haven't had a problem at all with it.
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afblangley said:
Make sure in settings that location is using GPS and cellular network to get a fix.There is an app called Gear Navigator S that is a standalone. It works without being paired to a phone. Now how useful it is given a 1" screen is another matter...
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That gear navigator s doesnt work for me.. says i need to have an internet connection..
Tel864 which apps please?
Thx all
Can't use standalone GPS
Can anyone help? I cannot use my watch for the golf navi global app anymore unless I'm connected to phone. I used to be able to use watch without being connected and all worked fine. All updates are done and location set at GPS. Can anyone help?
Daines08 said:
Can anyone help? I cannot use my watch for the golf navi global app anymore unless I'm connected to phone. I used to be able to use watch without being connected and all worked fine. All updates are done and location set at GPS. Can anyone help?
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I've been having issues too with standalone GPS since installing one of the recent updates. Very annoying. (it does seem to work when paired to my phone via bluetooth though)
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
scoob101 said:
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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The two devices will talk to each other whether wifi is turned on or off. Wifi comes in handy for apps like Spotify so you don't have to use up your data and apps like Kodi gear where you can control multimedia through your watch .
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I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
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You mean while out of bluetooth range? If so yes, that is one of the usages of wifi.
scoob101 said:
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
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No as @MobileUnlockBase pointed out already.
scoob101 said:
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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In Wifi mode you will keep receiving all kind of notifications including text, missing calls etc., but you can't make/receive phone call over wifi. Currently phone call over wifi is not available on this watch.
If you always have your phone with you (by definition this means within BT range) there is no reason to use WiFi. There is nothing that can be done via WiFi that can't be done via BT. But the reverse is not true.
So basically if you have your phone with you at all times, its a complete waste of battery. Turned off. Cheers.
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You mean while out of bluetooth range? If so yes, that is one of the usages of wifi.
No as @MobileUnlockBase pointed out already.
In Wifi mode you will keep receiving all kind of notifications including text, missing calls etc., but you can't make/receive phone call over wifi. Currently phone call over wifi is not available on this watch.
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I'm totally unclear on the purpose of Wifi on this watch! I turned off Bluetooth to use Wifi and it can't connect because the of "sign-in procedure not supported"! Does that mean it can only connect to an open network??? Those really don't exist these days.
Why is there such a big discussion about wifi on this watch? The watch has wifi because Samsung wanted to put it in there and most of us are grateful. Do you want a smart watch without wifi? Again, there are apps like Spotify that it is better to be on wifi instead of GSM, depending on what network you use.
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I'm totally unclear on the purpose of Wifi on this watch! I turned off Bluetooth to use Wifi and it can't connect because the of "sign-in procedure not supported"! Does that mean it can only connect to an open network??? Those really don't exist these days.
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No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
10urshin said:
No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
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Lol, if i turn off password protection on my home network, then my neighbors will start using my Wifi! I can't believe Samsung overlooked this!! I'll just wait for a possible update???
I can confirm that it should connect to a wifi protected network. I use WPA2-PSK and it connects fine to my router.
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Why is there such a big discussion about wifi on this watch? The watch has wifi because Samsung wanted to put it in there and most of us are grateful. Do you want a smart watch without wifi? Again, there are apps like Spotify that it is better to be on wifi instead of GSM, depending on what network you use.
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The discussion is because people want to understand the uses of their watch. Having it is nice, but there aren't too many use case scenarios for it. Most of the time where WiFi is available, the phone will be close at hand and connected via BT. Streaming music (over WiFi or otherwise) is a very limited application because of the battery drain. If/when moreb Tizen apps are developed for the watch, using WiFi may become practical.
At home i do leave my phone in 1 place, keep my S3 on yes moving around its always BT, but moving further around the house when BT drops the WIFI takes over.
Also once i forgot my phone at home, but when i reached the gym (was registered for their WIFI) i still got my notifications etc.
But all in all no much use, but i left it on as could not discern much battery loss with it being on.
you have to sync the wifi from your phone to the watch then it will just connect.. look on the gear app settings> gear connection > Sync wi-fi profiles..
It's not about giving a use for WiFi all the time. Most of the time WiFi should be off to conserve battery. It is more about the one off scenarios like you forgot your phone at home, but you can connect to WiFi at work and tell your wife you are alive through a text... or for the tizen app developer, to test apps on your watch you need to connect to the watch via wifi... or for spotify.. there are several reasons to have it, but still it should be off Moore often than not
jestexman said:
you have to sync the wifi from your phone to the watch then it will just connect.. look on the gear app settings> gear connection > Sync wi-fi profiles..
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No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
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Odd, now it's connecting without doing either of your suggestions!!? Confusing!
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Well GWD needs the watch and PC connected to the same network (wifi) to get the faces from one place to another. Unless you get it into a store maybe, but having it on wifi is handy to test things out as you add them and modify themes.
Just to share my opinion. In my work I’m not allowed to have the phone with me. So the solution to continue receiving my notifications are through WiFi, and it works perfectly.
Streaming music from Spotify on my watch over Wifi.
scoob101 said:
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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WiFi (WiFi Direct) is also used for syncing Images, songs and large apps over to your watch; these would otherwise take lots of time over Bluetooth.
After last update there is no connection via wifi with my phone.. Does someone experienced the same issue?
I've noticed that if my watch is connected to my phone via bluetooth, it will try to get location data from the phone rather than the watche's own GPS.
Under normal circumstances that's not a problem, however when I go hiking, I keep my phone in my backpack and it loses the GPS signal. That means the watch also loses location data and no longer properly tracks the hike (or any other activity where the phone might not have a GPS signal).
Is there a way to force the watch to use its own GPS even when bluetooth is on?
Turning off bluetooth on the watch fixes this of course, but then I no longer get notifications of text messages coming in while my phone is not easily accessible, which is kind of the point of the watch in the first place.
Maybe turning Off Location on phone ?