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Reading all the reviews the one thing most of them take issue with is the camera on the Moto X. There is something very common between them, the inconsistency from picture to picture. Most say the Moto X is capable of taking good pictures but you need to put up with several bad ones as well. If you take the info from the reviews it's not a "Camera" issue as much as a "Software" issue. The timing of the auto focus to the shutter seems off as well as possibly the color & sharpness of the pictures.
I own a Nexus 4 currently and it doesn't take the greatest pictures either with the AOSP camera. One thing I have noticed is Cyanogenmod's Focal camera app takes better pictures. I tried taking pictures with AOSP, Focal and ProCapture app and comparing them. While I am not using the paid version of ProCapture the pictures are sharper and the color is spot on vs AOSP and Focal, even though ProCapture is taking 3.2mp shots and AOSP/Focal are taking 8.0mp pictures.
Link to ProCapture(Free) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neaststudios.procapture.free&hl=en
I know someone using ProCapture with their new Droid Maxx and says it has made a big difference in the image quality. This should obviously translate over to the Moto X as well. The full version is a few bucks and if someone is willing to purchase it and post their results for everyone that could help lots of X owners out.
Here are three pictures I took today and you can see how ProCapture's are sharper and the color is not washed out. First picture is AOSP, second Focal and last one is ProCapture.
I like the ProCapture app. I have the premium version. I will have to take some test shots to compare the two. However, I cannot find anyway of changing which app is launched when you use the twist gesture to open the camera. Every time I do it, it opens the stock camera. I have made the ProCapture app the default when swiping from the lockscreen but that does not apply to the gesture. Any ideas?
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edit: One thing I wish the ProCapture had was an HDR setting.
HDR setting is in Focus/Scene option menu(second down on the left).
I'm very interested in seeing side by side shots you take. If you can take a variety of shots, in bright sunlight, the sky(good for color comparisons), low light, indoors, close ups, action shots, etc with both camera's and post them here.
As far as the gesture opening the app that's something you can't probably change with the stock software. Once developers start making rom's & mods for the Moto X I'm sure the gesture will be able to be reassigned to another app.
xious1 said:
I like the ProCapture app. I have the premium version. I will have to take some test shots to compare the two. However, I cannot find anyway of changing which app is launched when you use the twist gesture to open the camera. Every time I do it, it opens the stock camera. I have made the ProCapture app the default when swiping from the lockscreen but that does not apply to the gesture. Any ideas?
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edit: One thing I wish the ProCapture had was an HDR setting.
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HDR setting is in Focus/Scene option menu(second down on the left).
I'm very interested in seeing side by side shots you take. If you can take a variety of shots, in bright sunlight, the sky(good for color comparisons), low light, indoors, close ups, action shots, etc with both camera's and post them here.
As far as the gesture opening the app that's something you can't probably change with the stock software. Once developers start making rom's & mods for the Moto X I'm sure the gesture will be able to be reassigned to another app.
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That's a lot of pictures. I will see what I can do.
As for the HDR setting, is it called something other than HDR? Cause it is not listed under the Focus/Scene option. I have the following:
Focus > Auto, Continuous, Infinity
Scene > Auto, Action, Portrait, Landscape, Night, Night portrait, Theatre, Beach, Snow, Sports, Sunset, Steady photo, Fireworks, Party, Candlelight, Backlight
Color effect > None, Mono, Sepia, Negative, Solarize, Posterize, Aqua, Blackboard, Whiteboard
Any comparison pictures you can take will be helpful for everyone. It can show its a software issue that can be fixed.
I'm using the free version of ProCapture, here is the HDR setting.
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Any comparison pictures you can take will be helpful for everyone. It can show its a software issue that can be fixed.
I'm using the free version of ProCapture, here is the HDR setting.
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Looking forward to the results... :good:
Xious1 or someone else give ProCapture a try and post pictures taken with it and the stock camera. I don't have a Moto X yet so I just know how much of a difference it has made on my Nexus 4 and my wife's Razr i.
Beamed from my Nexus 4
Can I squeeze zhe phone to activate this like the original app?
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I'm really not so sure I see much of a difference. Here's my samples:
Moto X Stock Camera:
Moto X ProCapture Free:
Moto X Focal:
Olympus E-PL1 with M.Zuiko 17mm F2.8 lens:
iPhone 5:
Nexus 4 Stock Camera:
Nexus 7 (2013) Stock Camera:
This is done with zero tweaking at all, straight out of the cameras. Even the mediocre Nexus 4 camera makes the Moto X look bad.
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I'm really not so sure I see much of a difference. Here's my samples:
Moto X Stock Camera:
Moto X ProCapture Free:
Moto X Focal:
Olympus E-PL1 with M.Zuiko 17mm F2.8 lens:
iPhone 5:
Nexus 4 Stock Camera:
Nexus 7 (2013) Stock Camera:
This is done with zero tweaking at all, straight out of the cameras. Even the mediocre Nexus 4 camera makes the Moto X look bad.
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I understand testing the app without tweaking, but the reason I did a search for moto x & Procapture was simply, the X doesn't give users the ability to access settings like white balance, exposure, etc. I'm currently on an S3, and was set on either an X or a Droid Maxx, but the camera quality was holding me back. To get decent pics on my S3 I have to play with those settings, but with the stock Moto camera software, I wouldn't have that option. Now if it's possible to get rid of the purple tint that some reviewers are seeing, or give it better contrast, I wouldn't be so apprehensive. But I thought the point of getting an app like that was so you could tweak the settings to get it closer to the better cameras out there.
ProCapture allows many more options to tweak your shots. I used backlight mode this weekend to take pics were my daughter was standing in front of a large glass wall of windows with the sun coming through. With out back light mode you could hardly see her, with it on she popped to the front of the image. This is on my Nexus 4.
Now if you haven't heard Moto is pushing out an update to T-Mobile users right now that fixes the camera issues. The pictures side by side show a dramatic change in quality.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/23/moto-x-camera-update-new-vs-old
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7353/moto-x-update-dramatically-improves-camera-quality
Downside is can't use the cool wrist flick feature thing.
i agree, procapture is a very good camera, expecially to take panorama pics.
but in my opinion the big limit of this app is when you play with options and effect, because, while stock's camera reset values when you launch the app, procapture doesn't do that, but only for exposure (if you check it in settings).
so if you play with values when you launch in another time the app you have to reset all the values by yourself. i sent an email to the dev to make the app reset values when you lanch it.
I used Procapture far a while and was very pleased with it. Had you given FV-5 Camera try? I use it for now and for now i stay with it as it makes for me the best images.
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I used Procapture far a while and was very pleased with it. Had you given FV-5 Camera try? I use it for now and for now i stay with it as it makes for me the best images.
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I'll try it!
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Thomas_BA said:
I used Procapture far a while and was very pleased with it. Had you given FV-5 Camera try? I use it for now and for now i stay with it as it makes for me the best images.
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Camera FV-5 doesnt adjust focus/Exposure!
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Camera FV-5 doesnt adjust focus/Exposure!
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It has Autofocus and Autoexposure. You can also do that manulay.
msespindola said:
Camera FV-5 doesnt adjust focus/Exposure!
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You can do a separate exposure and focus though. I used to enjoy ProCamera but I think I can produce better shots with Camera FV-5.
Wow I just saw this post. I was about to give up on my Moto X camera and call it a loss for indoor photos.
Camera FV-5 changed that. This thing is great. Once you read through the manual to figure out adjustments, this thing takes great photos.
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Wow I just saw this post. I was about to give up on my Moto X camera and call it a loss for indoor photos.
Camera FV-5 changed that. This thing is great. Once you read through the manual to figure out adjustments, this thing takes great photos.
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yes i use it since my RAZR. You have to read the manual (pdf) to get knowledge of the full potential of the app. The developer is releasing in some weeks a beta app for taking videos
by the way, there was a big bug when taking photos in portrait with Moto X. The images freezes. This was solved in the last update.
Lets face it, the M7 camera ap is not much to put in the christmas tree.
Hopefully you will also be able to get better photo result with a 3rd party app ?
Which maybe have better auto settings etc, better auto exposure ?
I have tried the google camera app a little... it is a lot faster then the m7 app faster interface.. but I see no direct
improvment/difference in photo quality. But the Google camera app is good enough to replace the mediocre M7 Camera app, but I am sure there is even better ?
a better camera. Don't know if the photos are better but more options/tweaks.
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I dont understand why people are complaining about mate 7's camera so much. It is much better than my old LG G2's camera.
I am using stock camera with no tweak. Really happy with its performance. I am on holiday with my friends and as you guess i took tons of photos and selfies, all my friend praised my phone's camera as having a very good performance.
I have tried an app called perfectly clear it brings superior quality to the m7 camera in hdr realistic mode.. A must have now... Must good hdr apps cost money...
Down side with the app is that you must hold the of steady since the app takes two pics and merge them so it takes a few seconds longer to take the shot but it's worth it.
Hi everyone!
This is something that has been bothering me (well, the only thing) regarding Mokee rom.
I don't like its camera app. I prefer miui 's camera app but I don´t want to go back to miui just because of the camera software as I'm loving all the rest in Mokee....
So, is there any really good camera app that does moreless the same job of miui's camera app? The one in Mokee is just so limited... and if you breed meanwhile you just can't take a nice picture, specially at night... I really have to stop breathing to take a nice pic at night with mokee's camera...
Which camera software do you recommend me to use? I tried several from playstore but none gave me the results of miui's camera.
Many thanks in advance
I'm currently using the cost free variant of HD Camera Ultra. I like its features.
I too am curious as to what other (preferably cost free) camera apps other Xiaomi Mi 4c users may be using.
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oldcpu said:
I'm currently using the cost free variant of HD Camera Ultra. I like its features.
I too am curious as to what other (preferably cost free) camera apps other Xiaomi Mi 4c users may be using.
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I looked over and over and finally I found something that impressed me... Try searching for "DSLR camera". I downloaded the PRO version from Aptoide.
Finally I have a real camera... It's just wonderful.
I also tested HD camera ultra and didn't quite liked it also but this DSLR camera is just perfect for me.
Well thanks for the feedback anyway
Two other cost free camera apps
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I looked over and over and finally I found something that impressed me... Try searching for "DSLR camera". I downloaded the PRO version from Aptoide.
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Glad to read you found an app that you like. There is a DSL Camera on Google Play Store (by Geeky Devs Studio) and I assume that is the 'pay' app you are referring to.
wrt cost free applications, there is also
LG Camera on Google Play Store (by RubberBigPepper). I played with it briefly and it provides a bit more control over one's camera than "HD Camera Ultra". I did encounter a bug with the white balance in "LG Camera". After one of my earlier pix, it selected one setting for while balance and locked on that even thou it was set to auto. This was very frustrating, although eventually I learned that to work around a clear 'bug' in the software, I had to manual change the white balance to something else, then go back to auto, before the auto worked (ie I managed to find a way out of some bug in the software's white balance auto setting). LG camera does have some adverts that I found a bit annoying - clearly they want one to pay for the commercial version to remove the adverts. I did not check out the cost to remove the adverts. Instead, I will likely remove the app. I can't see paying for a white balance bug.
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Open Camera on Google Play Store by Mark Harman. I played with this briefly. I really like its autofocus implementation. Click on any object in the camera view, and the software will endeavour to adjust all settings (and not just the focus) based on a small area about that object. I found that kind of neat.
As noted, likely I will delete "LG Camera" and keep "Open Camera" and keep "HD Camera Ultra".
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I'm using A Better Camera Unlocked, bought last year during 90% discount (was is christmas?) time just like this black friday discount.
I tested a lot of cameras like dslr camera, google camera, better camera, camera fx, camera fv-5, snap camera and so on.
For me camera fv-5 and snap camera hdr gives me the best results by far.
I personaly prefer snap camera hdr :good:
Quick question: Does the quality of the picture changes (does the post-processing algorythm changes) between camera apps, or is one better than the other just because of it's manual options?
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Quick question: Does the quality of the picture changes (does the post-processing algorythm changes) between camera apps, or is one better than the other just because of it's manual options?
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Post processing algo could differ from one app to another of course, it's up to the app writer to use what algo (possibly user configurable). The parameters sent to the camera might differ as well, where that could generate different initial image from the camera hardware.
Is there any camera that can take instant photos like miui camera? Snap camera can but it changes to a lower resolution.
Try google camera... it's much better and also faster now
What is not OK with the stock MIUI camera? Works really well for me.
Miui camera is wonderful... Probably the best I tried... But as I'm sticking with Mokee I dont have access to miuis camera... Using google camera at the moment... Simples but works well...
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What is not OK with the stock MIUI camera? Works really well for me.
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Miui camera is excellent but if we use cm or mokee rom then we can't use miui camera obviously.
I'm using Snap Camera. The picture is much more better and clearer compared to other apps that i had tried.
just my opinion tho..
Snap camera is really good... Tried google camera but... Snap camera is to me the best option... Lots of options and best image... IMO better than miui camera.
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Snap camera is really good... Tried google camera but... Snap camera is to me the best option... Lots of options and best image... IMO better than miui camera.
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Did you change around any settings in snap camera?
I changed ISO to get best PICs at night, steady shot is also very nice... Being able to Adjust brightness, exposure, contrast, sharpness while taking the pictures also gives a good improvement... Well among many other things I dont even know what they are for... Loool
But specially the night pics get much better...
Can somebody explain me, why Camera API 2.0 isn't used by most of the vendors? This is just ridiculous.
As for me, I use A Better Camera with everything unlocked.
Hello friend, but if you do like the Rom miui because you bought a phone Xiaomi?
Hi guys. I have been using my OnePlus 6 device since launch and overall I love it. The only thing I miss is the S9+ Wide Selfie camera mode. I looked and surprisingly there is no panorama app for the front facing camera. It really comes in handy for family group shots when on vacation. Anyone know of any solution to this? I'm seriously considering switching to a Pixel 3 XL for this reason. OnePlus really needs to add this useful feature to the camera app!
it's a hardware issue not a software issue, it cant be done by update
Coming from pixel pro 6. Love the camera, hate the size of phone. Know I'm giving up some great features by going smaller but what are you early owners seeing with the camera? Anyone planning on finding a gcam ported to it? Heard someone ported google photos also so magic eraser would work.
Thoughts please why I impatiently wait on my phone to arrive.
Good enough. Definitely better than than my Flip 3
The 3 seemed to lack detail and colour for me.
I've been searching xda for the gphotos port with magic eraser, but nothing is coming up for non pixel devices... Let me know if you know where it is plz!
Samsung now has object eraser, works same, however you could try this: https://www.smartprix.com/bytes/how-to-get-pixel-magic-eraser-on-other-android-phones/
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Good enough. Definitely better than than my Flip 3
The 3 seemed to lack detail and colour for me.
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I took some Flip 4 pics today to see how it goes, the color rendering seems ok, decent photos in good light conditions. No overkill, just point & shoot camera - things we were expecting from this phone.
The camera on this phone is definitely no Pixel 6 or Pixel 6 Pro; however, I think that should be a given when upgrading. I installed The Greatest GCam port and was impressed. The issue with the ports that I have found is that they don't mimic the new camera software on the Pixels. The one that was closest did something weird with my camera lens and made everything spherical looking.
Been using pixel since pixel 1, the camera is not as good as pixel's, even compared to a pixel 3 (2018).
The picture took by Samsung is more colorful than pixel, more colorful than real.
And the picture took at night is worse than pixel. Pixel's algorithm (night sight) is absolutely needed.
Is there any working G Cam port? Thank you.
Haven't found a gcam port that doesn't crash yet, but Adobe is working on a camera app that is suppose to have similar AI to Pixel, along with some other great stuff. Don't know when it will be released though
The camera is certainly a step up from last year's device but not quite flagship grade.
It excels in well-lit areas absent of any fast moving objects.
A working GCAM port might convince to me to reconsider it as a daily driver (as I literally have no other qualms with the device).
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Haven't found a gcam port that doesn't crash yet, but Adobe is working on a camera app that is suppose to have similar AI to Pixel, along with some other great stuff. Don't know when it will be released though
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The latest g cam from BSG doesn't crash.
Version 8.6.263_a11_v2
BSG: MGC_8.6.263_A11_V2
Download MGC_8.6.263_A11_V2 by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Thanks! I'll try it.
acytoo said:
The latest g cam from BSG doesn't crash.
Version 8.6.263_a11_v2
BSG: MGC_8.6.263_A11_V2
Download MGC_8.6.263_A11_V2 by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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To clarify: you're saying it also doesn't need a .xml config file?
Moaske said:
To clarify: you're saying it also doesn't need a .xml config file?
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No config file needed.
Gcam from bigkaka
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-BigKaka/
works, too. (Does not working with a config file)
Tried the BSG camera port. The good news is that everything seems to work. The bad news is that I took a number of test comparison shots with the Samsung camera (both lenses, night mode, portrait mode). The Samsung photos were clearly superior each time. If nothing else, makes me feel good about the camera built into the phone.
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Tried the BSG camera port. The good news is that everything seems to work. The bad news is that I took a number of test comparison shots with the Samsung camera (both lenses, night mode, portrait mode). The Samsung photos were clearly superior each time. If nothing else, makes me feel good about the camera built into the phone.
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Can you take the selfie using the front camera? I tried G Cam from all mods and non of them has a working front camera. You can preview from the front camera, but you can't save the image.
As for the "superior", it's just personal tastes. Many people like the raw and real feeling of the G cam. Samsung's camera is too "vivid", the sky is bluer and the trees are more green, FAKE. And often lost the details because of the color management. G Cam, just captures the real world most of time.
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Can you take the selfie using the front camera? I tried G Cam from all mods and non of them has a working front camera. You can preview from the front camera, but you can't save the image.
As for the "superior", it's just personal tastes. Many people like the raw and real feeling of the G cam. Samsung's camera is too "vivid", the sky is bluer and the trees are more green, FAKE. And often lost the details because of the color management. G Cam, just captures the real world most of time.
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Sorry, I've already deleted G Cam, so I can't test the selfie cam. Didn't think to try it.
Came from S22U, so my experienceis not applicablefor everyone.
For sure, the camera is not like in that phone, especially I'm missing the telephoto one. Night shots are more messy and such.
On the other hand though, it's not that bad at all. Night shots are doing what it supposed to do, day photos are great.
In my mind, I can say that the cameras on Flip 4 gets "Decent +" mark