Hi guys, so i just bought a Z5 Dual E6683 online yesterday and it turns out to be a Commercial/review model with 32.0.A.5.19 firmware installed, and I'm planning to root it to restore my Titanium Backup.
There're 3 things that I want to ask,
1. Is it possible to root it and upgrade to MM but with DRM still intact?
2. If so then do I need to flash another ftf 1st or change kernel or anything?
3. If I flash another Lollipop ftf, does it erase my current DRM or no?
Nah you have to unlock BL to get Z5 rooted. You can try the DRM backup tools though.
Patched kernel is enough just for root
If you flash official FTF you won't lose DRM(you only lose it by unlocking BL), however, I don't think it is possible to flash back to LP
CyNoob said:
Nah you have to unlock BL to get Z5 rooted. You can try the DRM backup tools though.
Patched kernel is enough just for root
If you flash official FTF you won't lose DRM(you only lose it by unlocking BL), however, I don't think it is possible to flash back to LP
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You mean there's no going back to Lollipop once you patch the kernel and upgrade to MM?
But to patch the kernel I need to unlock BL right?
So, in conclusion I need to flash official LL ftf 1st (any build (?)), then backup DRM and unlock the BL, patch the kernel, and finally upgrade to MM?
And do I need to backup my current firmware (32.0.A.5.19) ?
arceusxcv said:
You mean there's no going back to Lollipop once you patch the kernel and upgrade to MM?
But to patch the kernel I need to unlock BL right?
So, in conclusion I need to flash official LL ftf 1st (any build (?)), then backup DRM and unlock the BL, patch the kernel, and finally upgrade to MM?
And do I need to backup my current firmware (32.0.A.5.19) ?
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You have to flash a Lollipop firm, then use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/iovyroot-temp-root-tool-t3349597 . Backup your DRM and then you are ready to open the bootloader, and flash a rom or root or do what you want.
You are on right firmware to root and proceed.
1. Is it possible to root it and upgrade to MM but with DRM still intact?
Ans. Yes, use this tool to back drm first from http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/iovyroot-temp-root-tool-t3349597 and then unlock bootloader and then download any MM firmware and flash. Then you need patched kernel to root your device from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...ot-automatic-repack-stock-kernel-dm-t3301605.
or I have already made for E6683 for the latest MM firmware here http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/development/root-automatic-repack-stock-kernel-dm-t3301605
you can use as you wish.
2. If so then do I need to flash another ftf 1st or change kernel or anything?
Ans. as i said above.
3. If I flash another Lollipop ftf, does it erase my current DRM or no?
Ans. flashing doesn't erase anything but bootloader unlocking does. So answer is NO.
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Hello to everyone
I've a question and a idea.
Can I root my Xperia Z3 with this tool? http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
If It's possibile i think to downgrande (with the first firmware founded on this thread) my phone to Firmware < October 2014 (kernel and system) , after root with this tool, save the DRM Keys, upgrade to the last firmware, unlock the bootloader and remake the root and at last restore the DRM Keys It's possibile?
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Hello to everyone
I've a question and a idea.
Can I root my Xperia Z3 with this tool? http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
If It's possibile i think to downgrande (with the first firmware founded on this thread) my phone to Firmware < October 2014 (kernel and system) , after root with this tool, save the DRM Keys, upgrade to the last firmware, unlock the bootloader and remake the root and at last restore the DRM Keys It's possibile?
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Yes it is possible. I rooted my device with this tool. I backuped my Drm keys. I'm on cm12 right now.
tkd-alex said:
Hello to everyone
I've a question and a idea.
Can I root my Xperia Z3 with this tool? http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
If It's possibile i think to downgrande (with the first firmware founded on this thread) my phone to Firmware < October 2014 (kernel and system) , after root with this tool, save the DRM Keys, upgrade to the last firmware, unlock the bootloader and remake the root and at last restore the DRM Keys It's possibile?
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Welcome to the party
Yes its possible, but why would you unlock the bootloader just to restore the DRM keys straight afterwards? That relocks your bootloader and will prevent custom kernels from booting
Bacause I'm interested to the last stock firmware so, If I root the phone white this tools and after upgrade to the last stock firmware the root will be deleted or not?
LeonidasTurk said:
Yes it is possible. I rooted my device with this tool. I backuped my Drm keys. I'm on cm12 right now.
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gregbradley said:
Welcome to the party
Yes its possible, but why would you unlock the bootloader just to restore the DRM keys straight afterwards? That relocks your bootloader and will prevent custom kernels from booting
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tkd-alex said:
Bacause I'm interested to the last stock firmware so, If I root the phone white this tools and after upgrade to the last stock firmware the root will be deleted or not?
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Ok, I see what you mean. Yes you will lose root if you upgrade to the latest firmware. However, to get root on an unlocked bootloader you need a custom kernel (even one based on stock is custom) so as soon as you restore the DRM keys you will no longer be able to boot.
The best bet is to
downgrade
root
Install recovery
flash a pre-rooted firmware of the which ever version you want. You can create this using PRFCreator_v0.8 (Just google it) and it will take about 7 minutes to make it.
gregbradley said:
Ok, I see what you mean. Yes you will lose root if you upgrade to the latest firmware. However, to get root on an unlocked bootloader you need a custom kernel (even one based on stock is custom) so as soon as you restore the DRM keys you will no longer be able to boot.
The best bet is to
downgrade
root
Install recovery
flash a pre-rooted firmware of the which ever version you want. You can create this using PRFCreator_v0.8 (Just google it) and it will take about 7 minutes to make it.
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Need wipe?
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So I have an xperia update alert. Is there a way to update to the latest and retain my files as well as root access?
No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.
TheTeslaCoil said:
No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.
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I'm not on KK, Im on lollipop but I believe there's a newer version to LP for the Z3. I'm on 23.1.A.0.690
What size is it? Maybe it's not a firmware update.
It's an Xperia system update I can't pull up details about it without beginning the install process
you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root
Richy99 said:
you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root
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Thanks, I've been a little out of the game when it comes to flashing and rooting. I rooted my phone about a week ago and put lollipop on it. I assumed it would be the case that i'd have to flash the updated version I just wondered about retaining my files because i've gone through a bit of trouble debloating and tweaking the phone.
you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system
Richy99 said:
you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system
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I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?
xdayala said:
I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?
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There are loads of tools for this, probably the most well known in titanium backup
Why it's almost impossible for us to have the root with the locked bootloader.? Since the day the mobile went out till now it wasn't possible ?, so is there a chance?
Zewarxx said:
Why it's almost impossible for us to have the root with the locked bootloader.? Since the day the mobile went out till now it wasn't possible ?, so is there a chance?
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Nope highly unlikely, since dm-verity security was introduced on the z3+ all xperia devices after this require a unlocked bootloader for root. A modified system just won't boot up.
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aidy.lucas said:
Nope highly unlikely, since dm-verity security was introduced on the z3+ all xperia devices after this require a unlocked bootloader for root. A modified system just won't boot up.
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Hollywood!! So I shall wait no more? And unlock the bootloader? Because root with locked bootloader is just a myth now?
Zewarxx said:
Hollywood!! So I shall wait no more? And unlock the bootloader? Because root with locked bootloader is just a myth now?
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Go ahead, don't forget to backup your TA partition / DRM keys before...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/universal-dirtycow-based-ta-backup-t3514236
sxtester said:
Go ahead, don't forget to backup your TA partition / DRM keys before...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/universal-dirtycow-based-ta-backup-t3514236
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aidy.lucas said:
Nope highly unlikely, since dm-verity security was introduced on the z3+ all xperia devices after this require a unlocked bootloader for root. A modified system just won't boot up.
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so after the searches, I did I found out the following:
1- first, since I'm on android 7.0 I need to downgrade to 6.0 in order to backup my TA ! wich I can do via Flashtool
2- I do the backup
3- I root the phone and restore the backup I did
4- I upgrade to android 7 and then I'm good to go!
my questions:
1-what will I lose after unlocking the bootloader? and if I restored the TA backup will that count as if i didn't unlock the bootloader?
2- how I will root the phone? with a custom kernel or is there any other way? and if with a kernel any advice?
3-shall I do the root before upgrading to android 7? or before? and will I be able to still get updates after the root? or i will have to do it through Flashing Ftf of the new updates?
4-anyone is running Xposed framework?
thanks so much in advance ))
im not sure what we lose after bootloader unlock.. From what i read on the androplus kernel thread, if you use androplus there is some amount of drm functionality restored. there is no clear consensus from what i have read, and being a ex-Z3 user im still paranoid about this as in Z3 without the DRM camera is basically ****.
no xposed for nougat yet - so that's out of question.
Zewarxx said:
so after the searches, I did I found out the following:
1- first, since I'm on android 7.0 I need to downgrade to 6.0 in order to backup my TA ! wich I can do via Flashtool
2- I do the backup
3- I root the phone and restore the backup I did
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then you are locked again ... Don't do that!
4- I upgrade to android 7 and then I'm good to go!
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For every upgrade (via SONY's FTFs):
1. Flash FTF via Flashtool
2. flash suitable recovery and AndroPlus kernel (look in this forum and follow the instructions on AndroPlus' website)
3. boot into recovery, flash SuperSU and whatever you need
There should be a possibility to flash the devicekey (not the whole TA-partition!) to another partition to get the whole DRM-enchillada back. That does not work for me since it is not included in the FSC as of today.
my questions:
1-what will I lose after unlocking the bootloader? and if I restored the TA backup will that count as if i didn't unlock the bootloader?
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What you will loose when unlocking BL:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/loss-drm-keys-t2890936
At least the first two AFAIK are taken care of the DRM-Patch in AndroPlus's kernel.
2- how I will root the phone? with a custom kernel or is there any other way? and if with a kernel any advice?
3-shall I do the root before upgrading to android 7? or before? and will I be able to still get updates after the root? or i will have to do it through Flashing Ftf of the new updates?
4-anyone is running Xposed framework?
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2 see above, rinse and repeat for every new SONY Rom
3 same answer, since the modifications are overflashed by installing/flashing another ROM
4 I used to run XPrivacy, but ATM the granularity of options in MM and Nougat is enough for me -
there is no Xposed for Nougat ATM
DHGE said:
then you are locked again ... Don't do that!
For every upgrade (via SONY's FTFs):
1. Flash FTF via Flashtool
2. flash suitable recovery and AndroPlus kernel (look in this forum and follow the instructions on AndroPlus' website)
3. boot into recovery, flash SuperSU and whatever you need
There should be a possibility to flash the devicekey (not the whole TA-partition!) to another partition to get the whole DRM-enchillada back. That does not work for me since it is not included in the FSC as of today.
What you will loose when unlocking BL:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/loss-drm-keys-t2890936
At least the first two AFAIK are taken care of the DRM-Patch in AndroPlus's kernel.
2 see above, rinse and repeat for every new SONY Rom
3 same answer, since the modifications are overflashed by installing/flashing another ROM
4 I used to run XPrivacy, but ATM the granularity of options in MM and Nougat is enough for me -
there is no Xposed for Nougat ATM
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Thanks for your time and effort, well the reason I wanted the root is for the xposed and for the adblock only and since there's no xposed support yet I think it's not necessary to lose what I may lose just for the adblock ? thanks again
Hi All.
I have an xz on oreo. My bootloader isnt unlockable so im wondering if theres a way to root the phone without having to flash twrp etc.
I see that oneclickroot say its unlockable but want 29$ which I think is a scam.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers
No. It's literally impossible.
Any app saying otherwise is pure scam.
josephnero said:
No. It's literally impossible.
Any app saying otherwise is pure scam.
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I thought as much.
Is there any way to unlock bootloader on device that doesnt allow it?
cowen1000 said:
I thought as much.
Is there any way to unlock bootloader on device that doesnt allow it?
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Sadly noway I know of. Again unfortunately After android lollipop and adding of dm variety check and ric protection there is noway to root without unlocked bootloader.
cowen1000 said:
Hi All.
I see that oneclickroot say its unlockable but want 29$ which I think is a scam.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers
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Yes it is.
cowen1000 said:
I thought as much.
Is there any way to unlock bootloader on device that doesnt allow it?
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No.
If you can download a MM firmware and flash that using flashtool you can root without unlocking the bootloader.
gregbradley said:
Yes it is.
No.
If you can download a MM firmware and flash that using flashtool you can root without unlocking the bootloader.
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Hey, if I use firmware mm can I root without ubl? Because xz I say ubl no.
Lancelot6 said:
Hey, if I use firmware mm can I root without ubl? Because xz I say ubl no.
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Yes, that is what I said. There was still a vulnaribility in the MM firmware (Dirtycow) so if you can find a FTF for MM, then you can flash that with flashtool and use the dirty cow exploit (Thread in general section) to root.
gregbradley said:
Yes, that is what I said. There was still a vulnaribility in the MM firmware (Dirtycow) so if you can find a FTF for MM, then you can flash that with flashtool and use the dirty cow exploit (Thread in general section) to root.
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can you give a link for the method? pls
Hmm,,
Looking back I can only see threads about temporary root. I was positive you could root on marshmellow….maybe some more gooloing required
I have searched for it on Google and the results are only for those who have ubl yes, but is there really a way in this forum?
Lancelot6 said:
I have searched for it on Google and the results are only for those who have ubl yes, but is there really a way in this forum?
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Yes, you can achieve temp root on marshmellow, that is how the TA backup tool work. I was pretty sure from there you could install arecoevry and flash a stock based rooted rom with a stock kernel. So its a system root not a kernel root, but this is going back a couple of years as since nougat this exploit was patched and only unlocked bootloader root was available.
But there the XZ can be downgraded to MM so its possible.
Oh, I've found it, maybe later I'll try it ... Thank you for the help bro ...
since xz came out on Android 6.01
so downgrade to ADROID 6.0
extract DRMKEYS ( TA.IMG)
UPGRADE TO ANDROID OREO
UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
ROOT IT
AND RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER AGAIN WITH TA.IMG
just give me the android version you wana stay and i will send u modded kernel, the one given in the post has universal drm fix! and if you relock your bootloader it will go in to bootloops!
YasuHamed said:
since xz came out on Android 6.01
so downgrade to ADROID 6.0
extract DRMKEYS ( TA.IMG)
UPGRADE TO ANDROID OREO
UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
ROOT IT
AND RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER AGAIN WITH TA.IMG
just give me the android version you wana stay and i will send u modded kernel, the one given in the post has universal drm fix! and if you relock your bootloader it will go in to bootloops!
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If you relock the bootloader you cannot use a modded kernel. You have to keep the bootloader unlocked.
YasuHamed said:
since xz came out on Android 6.01
so downgrade to ADROID 6.0
extract DRMKEYS ( TA.IMG)
UPGRADE TO ANDROID OREO
UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
ROOT IT
AND RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER AGAIN WITH TA.IMG
just give me the android version you wana stay and i will send u modded kernel, the one given in the post has universal drm fix! and if you relock your bootloader it will go in to bootloops!
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What about Android 7.0 bro? Is it safe to extract the drmkey? And Is this method safe for XZ docomo?
Lancelot6 said:
What about Android 7.0 bro? Is it safe to extract the drmkey? And Is this method safe for XZ docomo?
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No, can only be done on 6
But I searched Google for backup TA but the conditions must be rooted, whereas I want to backup TA for root
Lancelot6 said:
But I searched Google for backup TA but the conditions must be rooted, whereas I want to backup TA for root
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Yes, on android 6 you can temporarily root to backup the TA, then you can revert back to any version of android and unlock the bootloader to flash a custom rooted kernel to gain root.
However, if you restore your TA it relocks the bootloader, meaning only a stock unrooted kernel will work.
So, use flashtool to flash a MM FTF and use the TA backup tool to backup your TA. Then just unlock your bootloader and use a custom rom.
Ohh now I understand, thank you for your explanation bro and I hope I managed to try it
Does it work with Sony Xperia X Performance
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I have sov33 Sony Xperia X performance... So what i should do is :
1.Downgrade to MM
2.Get temporary root
3.Install twrp app and install twrp
4.Flash rooted stock rom
5.Done
Hello friends
Sony Xperia Xz mobile phone I want to make Root authority but I can not find a definite method to make Root.
Please help me find a way to do easy and precise Root.
I know how to unlock the bootloader, but I do not know how to make root.
thank you
Xperia Xz
Model number: F8331
Compilation number: 41.3.A.2.128
First of all,if you need to back up your TA keys, you need to downgrade to Marshmallow.
Just unlock the bootloader and flash a modified kernel. Then flash magisk and safety fix.
Alternative metheod: unlock the bootloader and flash existanz custom Rom.you will have root plus tons of added futures
josephnero said:
First of all,if you need to back up your TA keys, you need to downgrade to Marshmallow.
Just unlock the bootloader and flash a modified kernel. Then flash magisk and safety fix.
Alternative metheod: unlock the bootloader and flash existanz custom Rom.you will have root plus tons of added futures
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From oreo to marshmellow how can we drop the version? do you have a link that can help?
Babycore said:
From oreo to marshmellow how can we drop the version? do you have a link that can help?
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Using flashtool. You need MM ftf file too. There is a guide in guide section.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/guide-stock-kernel-twrp-safetynet-patch-t3710781