Dear All,
New member here with mate 8 AL10 32GB Chinese version (bought while traveling in China) on EMUI5. Have had problem installing 3rd party dialer apps, like exDialer and so on from google play store. The installation pops "authentication is required, you need to log into google account" message and stop. Tried clearing google play store data, google service data, removing google account from the phone, and all method recommended on the internet. No go. Other apps not involving accessing the contacts in the phone all install with no issues. Has anyone also stumbled on this, and what the solution would likely be? Thanks a lot!
Besides, the contacts in the Huawei phone is super simplified. I'd have liked mate 8 better if the contacts could include more info of a person, such as home address, email address and so on, as is Sony Z3 capable of with its contacts, that I came from.
nattawa said:
Dear All,
New member here with mate 8 AL10 32GB Chinese version (bought while traveling in China) on EMUI5. Have had problem installing 3rd party dialer apps, like exDialer and so on from google play store. The installation pops "authentication is required, you need to log into google account" message and stop. Tried clearing google play store data, google service data, removing google account from the phone, and all method recommended on the internet. No go. Other apps not involving accessing the contacts in the phone all install with no issues. Has anyone also stumbled on this, and what the solution would likely be? Thanks a lot!
Besides, the contacts in the Huawei phone is super simplified. I'd have liked mate 8 better if the contacts could include more info of a person, such as home address, email address and so on, as is Sony Z3 capable of with its contacts, that I came from.
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Hi there ! This is a known bug in B562, everybody has this problem, me included. I don't think it has anything to do with apps accessing contacts, but with apps not previously purchased or associated with your account. There is no known solution so far. You can try the following workarounds:
- install the previous beta version B523 , the Google Play Store works fine , but this version lacks some interface features ( improved notifications , for example ) and maybe some other bugs.
- search for whatever apps you need in APKMirror , download and install manually. Speaking for myself, this is the safest bet because APK Mirror is trustworthy
- you could also try APKPure, which has a kind of a store app for convenience. It's easier to download and install apps, but I can't tell if the apps are malware free, so use it at your own risk ...
Btw, you can use the Sony contacts app if you want, just try downloading and installing it from APKMirror . Not sure if this is the correct one : http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/sony-mobile-communications/contacts-sony-mobile-communications .
dan boala said:
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- search for whatever apps you need in APKMirror , download and install manually. Speaking for myself, this is the safest bet because APK Mirror is trustworthy
- you could also try APKPure, which has a kind of a store app for convenience. It's easier to download and install apps, but I can't tell if the apps are malware free, so use it at your own risk ...
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Thanks, Dan. I'll give the APK Mirror a try.
dan boala said:
Btw, you can use the Sony contacts app if you want, just try downloading and installing it from APKMirror . Not sure if this is the correct one, apkmirror Sony Contacts app.
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That was a great piece of advice. Tried to manually install the Sony Contacts app. Despite a failed installation accompanied with an error message saying a required shared folder is non-existence in the mate 8, I was somehow able to import the contacts afterwards via Bluetooth connection from the Sony phone with all information retained, including the embedded head shot images. The Contacts app now operates the the Sony way too, with the ability of adding a self-defined field.
By the way, my mate 8 is on EMUI-4. The starting post said it was on EMUI-5, and that was a mistake on my part. My apologies.
for those who still have problems downloading apps from google play store, install this http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-account-manager/google-account-manager-7-0-release/
nattawa said:
That was a great piece of advice. Tried to manually install the Sony Contacts app. Despite a failed installation accompanied with an error message saying a required shared folder is non-existence in the mate 8, I was somehow able to import the contacts afterwards via Bluetooth connection from the Sony phone with all information retained, including the embedded head shot images. The Contacts app now operates the the Sony way too, with the ability of adding a self-defined field.
By the way, my mate 8 is on EMUI-4. The starting post said it was on EMUI-5, and that was a mistake on my part. My apologies.
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You're welcome, but the failed installation of the Sony Contacts app had nothing to do with your contacts importing, at least taking into account that the installation failed. All the contacts information that you mentioned is in fact standard Android functionality ( and available in Huawei Contacts app, btw ), so most likely the Bluetooth import app has just done its job ... Anyway, I have never had the Play Store problem while on EMUI 4 , only on the lastest EMUI 5.0.
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Icchan said:
for those who still have problems downloading apps from google play store, install this http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-account-manager/google-account-manager-7-0-release/
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Hi! I've installed this version, cleared data/cache, even removed and re-added my Google acount, but I still get the authentication required error. Could you test it some more, please ? Or maybe there's something else you did ? Thanks!
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Hello,
I have bought huawei Mate 8 (4/64) chineese version on ibuygou.com for review in my country . I wish they had installed google play services etc but they didnt.
I have tried with Google installer - it didn't help (method the same as in xiaomi devices). Next I have tried to install google play services.apk and google play.apk from apkmirror, but after I have written my email and password, there was written that there is no connect or sth like this - try again later. I checked account menagment in settings if I could login in google account, but there was no such option.
So my question is: Has anyone method to install google play, google services on this smartphone? I hope that anyone can help me, I will be so grateful !
Open HiStore (The Huawei app store) and search google, the first little banner that pops up click it, there should now be a list of the google apps. Install them. Change some permissions and you should be good.
Also install the app in the internal storage in case you have a micro sd installed.
ok so the solution here works great but when downloading larger apps such as zombies run or NFS No limits the playstore would force close and download fails without warning.
has anyone experienced this? could it be to do with the download manager?
yellowchilli said:
ok so the solution here works great but when downloading larger apps such as zombies run or NFS No limits the playstore would force close and download fails without warning.
has anyone experienced this? could it be to do with the download manager?
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Mine had the same problem before i changed the rom to the international one. And i know some people having the same problem.. Still no solution...
no problem here with large apps on the international rom i guess its worth trying to flash the L29 rom...
Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
thanks guys i guess ill be trying that then
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Mine had the same problem before i changed the rom to the international one. And i know some people having the same problem.. Still no solution...
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Why do people say there is no solution?!
I've seen some guy encounter this issue and then find a solution for it, and now it works perfectly for him.
Something to do with system app and permissions i think was all.
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NZtechfreak said:
Also, you need to give Play Store internal storage permission to download those large games, until I did that I had same issue as you with large game installs appearing to cause the Play Store to crash.
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As you can see a simple search and you can find the answers...
ItsMunday said:
Why do people say there is no solution?!
I've seen some guy encounter this issue and then find a solution for it, and now it works perfectly for him.
Something to do with system app and permissions i think was all.
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As you can see a simple search and you can find the answers...
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Appreciate this. I've tried trusting the entire google play store app which should allow everything but that didn't help. cleared data and stuff + reboot - nothing.
But seeing how someone did manage to solve it, I will give it another go before flashing. Thanks
solved. The UI is sort of confusing because I needed to bring up another (native?) permissions manager in order to enable storage permissions. could be a security feature.. no idea.
either search for "permissions" inside settings, or reach it by going to Apps > Advanced.
I'm planning to get the Chinese version (only one for now that has 4gb RAM and higher storage) and my question is does the phone come with English out of the box? Thanks
check with the shop ure getting it from, there are definitely multilanguage china roms
Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
yellowchilli said:
solved. The UI is sort of confusing because I needed to bring up another (native?) permissions manager in order to enable storage permissions. could be a security feature.. no idea.
either search for "permissions" inside settings, or reach it by going to Apps > Advanced.
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Sometimes it can get a bit confusing but im glad you were able to solve it.
I just cannot get google accounts to work
I have installed google play services, google play store, gmail, google contact sych onbmy chinese huawei mate 8. But when i try to add a google account, by givingbit the email, password and sms verification code, and after accepting the terms of servicd and policy, it gives couldnt sign in and communication error with google server.
Fongkhaiyin said:
I have installed google play services, google play store, gmail, google contact sych onbmy chinese huawei mate 8. But when i try to add a google account, by givingbit the email, password and sms verification code, and after accepting the terms of servicd and policy, it gives couldnt sign in and communication error with google server.
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I had communications error but it was from doing something else. uninstalled google stuff..the whole lot. reboot, reinstalled, and it was all good from there.
yellowchilli said:
I had communications error but it was from doing something else. uninstalled google stuff..the whole lot. reboot, reinstalled, and it was all good from there.
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Thank you. I reset the phone and install Google play store fro hiapp store. And everything works. I can add Google account and install all other Google apps.
I had the same problem, fixed by finding this thread
Thanks!!
Hello,
I have huawei mate 8 4/64GB Chinese version (Build: NXT-AL10C00B197, EMUI Version: 4.0, Marshmallow 6.0)
I have noticed when i try to add a new contact (From the Dialer / Contacts App / Whatsapp) doesn't matter, the app crashes.
Tried Cleaning app data (contacts) , tried factory reset and nothing seems to work.
I also noticed that this happens in other apps like google maps for example when i try to type an address.
So i thought maybe its a language problem, The Chinese version comes with Hebrew support built-in, so i changed it to English (US) and the problem was solved (GREAT!)
But does any one knows how to make it work with Hebrew support ?
I can use English but its not the best solution.
Thanks.
Some one have any idea?
Did you root it?
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I have a solution for the contacts and work around for the rest of the google apps.
The work around for for google map or google keep is to uninstall them from the HiApp app that came with the device - this will solve your problem. In addition fo to google play and disable the auto update since once it will update the google maps or keep again it will start crashing again. the HiApp contain the latest version so no issue with that.
The solution for the contact is to download from http://www.apkmirror.com/ 2 apps: First is: google.android.contacts and the google.android.sync - install them and the in the applications/permission check the trust this app box - to create new contact use the contact app you just installed - it will work also with Hebrew.
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yosiraz said:
I have a solution for the contacts and work around for the rest of the google apps.
The work around for for google map or google keep is to uninstall them from the HiApp app that came with the device - this will solve your problem. In addition fo to google play and disable the auto update since once it will update the google maps or keep again it will start crashing again. the HiApp contain the latest version so no issue with that.
The solution for the contact is to download from http://www.apkmirror.com/ 2 apps: First is: google.android.contacts and the google.android.sync - install them and the in the applications/permission check the trust this app box - to create new contact use the contact app you just installed - it will work also with Hebrew.
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One correction - from the HiApp isntall the google services - open it and from this app install all the rest of the google apps.
Hi dears,
I don't how many... but as soon launched, I placed my order for the 128GB version.
It is: http://www.royole.com/flexpai
Now... as soon payed, I didn't get any update and I raised up the case to PayPal as well.
Despite my path, I hope for you a better feedback, what's your opinion about?
Cheers.,
Love it!! Waiting for foldable tablet since years
Just curious to read your review
Please let me know
The only bad stuff: it isn't completely flat when opened
khalisee said:
Good for you man You have pre-ordered it
But I don't think the phone will be good even in youtube android authority posted a video in which they showed the phones look good in folded condition but in straight it looks ugly.
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Personally I don't care about aesthetic! Functionality is my only way and it's something revolutionary!!
I will have mine on tuesday, will xda would open a forum please ? Samsung and Huawei are not alone
babaorum1973 said:
I will have mine on tuesday, will xda would open a forum please ? Samsung and Huawei are not alone
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Would like to know if you are able to install google play on it?
I cannot (yet)
Thanks
Nice go meet you guy ! I manage to get it too.. Tonight i putted morelocale
and use some glue to fix a litle cease.. Now its perfect.. I love it..
I have tried different Google installs without success for instance..
I almnot able to manage à royole account, May ne it should help. I Will
make z blog on the flexpai soon
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Nice go meet you guy ! I manage to get it too.. Tonight i putted morelocale
and use some glue to fix a litle cease.. Now its perfect.. I love it..
I have tried different Google installs without success for instance..
I almnot able to manage à royole account, May ne it should help. I Will
make z blog on the flexpai soon
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Mine was OK, the SIM card holder tip broke off but can still insert a SIM card. I have tried many different things. I used the Chinese app to download something called "Go" when I open the app, I see Royole and references to Play store. I still cannot get it to work. I tried to create a Royole account (no luck still).
I use my Huawei phone to convert the Chinese to English (camera/hivision). They have FAQs in the app, and it implies I needed to disable two factor authentication but it doesn't work still.
I hooked up the FlexPai to ADB/Logcat to see the debug messages and I see security exceptions. So I fear we may need to root (and this is outside of my expertise).
I use the web versions of google apps as a temp workaround (outlook for email). Some apps work some apps don't.
some pics:
https://twitter.com/augmentedtraff/status/1128420489683177474
Looking forward to your blog!
Hi, Ive got some google functuonality installed on my flexpai (google maps is ok, playstore working but no possibility to sign in)
I am looking to install the google account apk for pie. You should have to install manually some google apk and for pie!!!
com.google.android.gms_17.1.91_(100400-247666647)-17191037_minAPI28(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk
com.android.vending_14.9.52-all_0_PR_246582236-81495200_minAPI16(armeabi,armeabi-v7a,mips,mips64,x86,x86_64)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.a pk
google-play-services-16-1-53-000300-242560017.apk
Hi looks promising.
In your list of 3 apks two of them are actually the same "app" just different versions
com.google.android.gms is the same as Google Play Services.
You need this one
com.google.android.gsf_9-4832352-28_minAPI28(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk
plus this version of Google maps
com.google.android.apps.maps_10.16.1-1016101040_minAPI21(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a,x86,x86_64)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk
AND IT WORKS!!! great work.
I can't log in but maps works otherwise.
maybe we need to latest google account manager - looking into it.
thanks
I found an account manager for Android Pie but no luck.
I look at logs in ADB - and it seems there are permissions that are not granted
nable to get provider com.google.android.gsf.settings.GoogleSettingsProvider: java.lang.SecurityException: You need MANAGE_USERS permission to: get the profile parent
I tried to grant using ADB shell but cannot.
So in an area I don't have expertise on.
I see we can unlock our bootloader so potential for other ROMs and root to address these issues
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aleekwen said:
Hi looks promising.
In your list of 3 apks two of them are actually the same "app" just different versions
com.google.android.gms is the same as Google Play Services.
You need this one
com.google.android.gsf_9-4832352-28_minAPI28(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk
plus this version of Google maps
com.google.android.apps.maps_10.16.1-1016101040_minAPI21(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a,x86,x86_64)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk
AND IT WORKS!!! great work.
I can't log in but maps works otherwise.
maybe we need to latest google account manager - looking into it.
thanks
I found an account manager for Android Pie but no luck.
I look at logs in ADB - and it seems there are permissions that are not granted
nable to get provider com.google.android.gsf.settings.GoogleSettingsProvider: java.lang.SecurityException: You need MANAGE_USERS permission to: get the profile parent
I tried to grant using ADB shell but cannot.
So in an area I don't have expertise on.
I see we can unlock our bootloader so potential for other ROMs and root to address these issues
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Thanks a lot !!! I will use some tips on the sharp aquos S2 forum where @heineken78 xda member was successfull to give gapps to chinese models and to optimize romes with treble or not
Quick update,
Just installing this one APK
com.google.android.gms_17.1.91_(100400-247666647)-17191037_minAPI28(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk
then issue these two command from adb:
adb shell pm grant com.google.android.gms android.permission.INTERACT_ACROSS_USERS
adb shell pm grant com.google.android.gms android.permission.READ_LOGS
helps a lot.
Apps like flipboard, sirius etc now work (when they didn't before).
Apps not working for me still: pushover, textnow and the google apps (where I need to login).
thanks
Adrian
Anyone managed to install playstore/Google services on this device successfully?
Iknerokaj said:
Anyone managed to install playstore/Google services on this device successfully?
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With many attempts, no. I even tried to root and this was unsuccessful. What did work so I could get some apps onboard was downloading the apk for Amazon app store. Finally have YouTube and other apps for viewing video content and some cool games.
houli said:
With many attempts, no. I even tried to root and this was unsuccessful. What did work so I could get some apps onboard was downloading the apk for Amazon app store. Finally have YouTube and other apps for viewing video content and some cool games.
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this sounds like such a HUGE disappointment. My set is arriving within a week and i intended for it to be my main phone driveer.
For youtube, could you login to your google account?
Iknerokaj said:
this sounds like such a HUGE disappointment. My set is arriving within a week and i intended for it to be my main phone driveer.
For youtube, could you login to your google account?
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Yes, I could load my Gmail and YouTube by signing in. I had intentions as well to use it as a daily device however I'm experiencing connectivity challenges with wifi and my data. Royole is supposed to be sending out an update soon to address some of the challenges we in North America are experiencing.
houli said:
Yes, I could load my Gmail and YouTube by signing in. I had intentions as well to use it as a daily device however I'm experiencing connectivity challenges with wifi and my data. Royole is supposed to be sending out an update soon to address some of the challenges we in North America are experiencing.
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Oh sounds good. Where did you get the news from? If they remove the Google playstore or Google services limitations, it would be really helpful.
Iknerokaj said:
this sounds like such a HUGE disappointment. My set is arriving within a week and i intended for it to be my main phone driveer.
For youtube, could you login to your google account?
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Yes it is unlikely one can use this as their main phone, but it's close.
Google apps (or any other app) that needs to login (locally on device) will not work.
For the Youtube (Version from the Amazon store), the login is cloud based (so it works).
One can use Chrome to login to Google photos, GMail, Drive, etc (as the login is Cloud based).
For an alternative to Google Maps, try MapQuest.
Interestingly the Microsoft Apps work really well (Launcher, Cortana, OneNote & other office apps).
For Apps like Flipboard use an email account (not Google account).
See my above post on the Google Services APK to get other apps working.
Here is why I cannot use as my Main Daily Driver. I depend on apps like Pushover (doesn't work at all), Paid Google Play Store apps (PocketCasts), Some Banking Apps (it detects the Flexpai as "non compliant'), Google Assistant (I really depend on that as a developer), Some Widgets (Currency), Android Wear (Watch while I haven't tested It depends on Play Services), Focals (Smart Glasses), Duo, TextNow, Feedly.
It is a good preview to what a Huawei Phone without Google Play Store/Services will be like : )
I use it as a second device (Foldable Tablet) and I find it quite usable.
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Iknerokaj said:
Oh sounds good. Where did you get the news from? If they remove the Google playstore or Google services limitations, it would be really helpful.
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I just got update 1.0.27 a couple of days ago (It was huge just over 1.7 GB). I am in Toronto (Rogers). I don't have any connectivity issues though for Wifi I find it weak on 5 Ghz, but LTE is not bad.
Can you confirm you are able to login to GMAIL using the android app (or did you mean via a browser)?
thanks
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Oh sounds good. Where did you get the news from? If they remove the Google playstore or Google services limitations, it would be really helpful.
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I received this news from the seller in China.
Google access
Hello guys,
Good news to see all thé flexpai owners !
I will try to manage the Google authentification soon. My flexpai is coming back in 2 days after a problem of broken screen.. The bubbles near the hinge were huge so i managed to glue and lay the screen protector.. And it brokes.. (galaxy fold syndrom don't try to remove the protection layer).
The New firmware should help to access google
Hi Guys,
Any news about the Google Services in Flexpai?
I got new Huawei Nova 4e from China and would like to install Google Web Services and other google apps to the phone.
OS: Emui 9.0.1.130
Huawei seem to block all Google apps by default including google web services, google play store, google calendar, etc even Google Keyboard.
Any ideas if I have to root a new ROM?
All help appreciated
research ..
So far I have not found any solution for this. .
Re:
Basically I am looking for ROM and trustable installation instructions - any out there?
I have the same issue.....tried all the simple stuff but nothing works!
Any news about a solution guys?
I'm also looking for a proper Google Play installation. Would be enormously grateful)
need ROM for Huawei 4e
bingoboy2222 said:
I got new Huawei Nova 4e from China and would like to install Google Web Services and other google apps to the phone.
OS: Emui 9.0.1.130
Huawei seem to block all Google apps by default including google web services, google play store, google calendar, etc even Google Keyboard.
Any ideas if I have to root a new ROM?
All help appreciated
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I need it too. this 4e is pretty useless. ROM anywhere?
Any solution for this??
I'm not sure if the services blocked but I've the same problem with the Nova 4e. can't add google account or open play store. I try many version of the store and services apk.
only this play store works
https://flb.st/jAYNq
but can't add an account so no luck yet.
Damn also Google Authenticator not working..
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My bad, I didnt install framework. Now its working.
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Damn also Google Authenticator not working..
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My bad, I didnt install framework. Now its working.
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Hey, could you please post the links to all the exact APKs you have installed? I've tried all recommended ones I could find and still stuck on login button.
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Hey, could you please post the links to all the exact APKs you have installed? I've tried all recommended ones I could find and still stuck on login button.
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I think you get me wrong, I only managed to work google authenticator.
Still cant add a Google account. Also many apps not properly working. If you still want to apks I can write the versions of these apps.
We need a new rom, also a way to unlock bootloader.
Any news?
Hello,
Based in France, I also bought the Nova 4e with Chinese android that is blocking most of Google apps, I couldn't even use Deezer and Whatsapp at the begining.
I have been trying all the possible scenarios that I found online, when arriving at the point of installing and launching the Google play store app (any version), the app was crashing and the phone was then becoming really unstable.
the only option I finally found, is to press *#*#2846579#*#* and do a factory reset, then restarting the phone and choosing to clone with my previous android phone (HTC desire 10 pro), after doing that download and install only these 3 APK of (reminder: at this stage you have to download APK files to install apps, from your phone directly or from a PC):
Google Account Manager.
Google Services Framework.
Google Play Services.
DON'T INSTALL GOOGLE PLAY STORE!
You can use APK Pure that is a neutral play store where you can download all popular apps just like on the classical google play store.
If you have a Gmail email box, you can use the Huawei email app that is really good or use a great alternative named myMail.
To substitute Google map you can use Waze or Here WeGo, as you need to log in with your Google account to use YouTube you can use as a substitute: Play tube app.
Google chrome is working so you can also use some Google apps like Google drive, Gmail , you tube or Google agenda from chrome.
All the other apps work fine, Facebook, instagram.... actually being in such situation make you think that Google is really everywhere in your phone and make you think differently forcing you to search for alternatives.
I bought this phone on a Chinese website, in the item description it was written "Huawei P30 Lite Nova 4E" actually if you encounter the same problem as me and you have received a NOVA 4E the seller is wrong and if you open a dispute with reason "parameter not as described" the seller will probably refused to refund but then the website should intervene and say you are right, in my case they offered me the solution below:
Option 1: Return goods Full refund (Seller pays the returning shipping fee)
I think that I will keep the phone, I will probably try to root it but It seems the bootloader code for this phone is not available at the moment, some people even say there is no code for this phone so I don't really know how to root it.
If somebody manage to do it I would be interested to have the procedure.
Many thanks @Tib-fr for sharing this procedure, it's been the only useful hint that worked for me so far after trying multiple alternatives. My Google Chrome doesn't work but I can use Firefox. I cloned a P30 Pro into my Nova4e. Appreciated your help very much, keep well ?
edbfkn said:
Many thanks @Tib-fr for sharing this procedure, it's been the only useful hint that worked for me so far after trying multiple alternatives. My Google Chrome doesn't work but I can use Firefox. I cloned a P30 Pro into my Nova4e. Appreciated your help very much, keep well
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HEllo @edbfkn you are welcome, by cloning a p30 pro in your nova4e can you use some other google apps ?
I haven't tested it extensively but noticed: some apps could not be properly installed on Nova4e (probably due to lack of GMS) and I didn't need to install the 3 Google APKs as you described. Other Google apps such as Play Music work but obviously I can't log in with my account. The non-Google 3rd party apps are so far working normally ? I'll continue testing and will let u know of any new finding!
Hola a todos.. Igual que ustedes tengo un nova 4e..
Hay alguna solución?
install rom
I saw that you can put a rom, it's called MAR-LX2, even so I don't know how to put the firmware.
MAR-LX1B should work with gaps without issues in EU atleast, I am not sure if it will work to flash firmware between different variant codes however
I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered my P40 Pro which should arrive in a few days. I have done some reading around as to whether to go GMS-naked or not and have a few questions still to help make my decision, hoping someone can help...
1) I currently have a Mate Pro 20, so I would be looking to clone my apps over. My understanding is that I can expect the vast majority of them to copy over (even if not on Huawei's AppGallery) but if I was to go GMS-naked, am I right in thinking that these apps would then never update (unless they are on AppGallery)?
2) Without installing GMS, is there any way of getting Chrome working? I use it as my browser on my tablet and desktop and it's helpful to have that sync so would really ideally like it on my phone.
3) Same as question 2 but regarding Google Suite apps such as Sheets and Docs - any hope in getting them without GMS?
4) I have read some positive reviews regarding BlueMail, is it possible to use this for Gmail accounts without GMS?
5) Without GMS, will UK banking apps only work if already on AppGallery? I currently use Starling, First Direct & NatWest - especially the former two so hoping that they would work.
6) If I did go down the GMS route, would I need to be reinstalling it every time there is an Android or Google update or would it be a one-off?
Tmel14 said:
I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered my P40 Pro which should arrive in a few days. I have done some reading around as to whether to go GMS-naked or not and have a few questions still to help make my decision, hoping someone can help...
1) I currently have a Mate Pro 20, so I would be looking to clone my apps over. My understanding is that I can expect the vast majority of them to copy over (even if not on Huawei's AppGallery) but if I was to go GMS-naked, am I right in thinking that these apps would then never update (unless they are on AppGallery)?
2) Without installing GMS, is there any way of getting Chrome working? I use it as my browser on my tablet and desktop and it's helpful to have that sync so would really ideally like it on my phone.
3) Same as question 2 but regarding Google Suite apps such as Sheets and Docs - any hope in getting them without GMS?
4) I have read some positive reviews regarding BlueMail, is it possible to use this for Gmail accounts without GMS?
5) Without GMS, will UK banking apps only work if already on AppGallery? I currently use Starling, First Direct & NatWest - especially the former two so hoping that they would work.
6) If I did go down the GMS route, would I need to be reinstalling it every time there is an Android or Google update or would it be a one-off?
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Regarding #5.
Starling works, though Natwest will not either with or without GMS sadly.
I now use yolt which will sync your account for the next best alternative.
#6,
Currently any updates haven't mean a reinstallation of anything.
Thank you, really helpful!! Good to know about Starling.
I don't suppose anyone else knows the answers to questions 1-4?
Tmel14 said:
I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered my P40 Pro which should arrive in a few days. I have done some reading around as to whether to go GMS-naked or not and have a few questions still to help make my decision, hoping someone can help...
1) I currently have a Mate Pro 20, so I would be looking to clone my apps over. My understanding is that I can expect the vast majority of them to copy over (even if not on Huawei's AppGallery) but if I was to go GMS-naked, am I right in thinking that these apps would then never update (unless they are on AppGallery)?
2) Without installing GMS, is there any way of getting Chrome working? I use it as my browser on my tablet and desktop and it's helpful to have that sync so would really ideally like it on my phone.
3) Same as question 2 but regarding Google Suite apps such as Sheets and Docs - any hope in getting them without GMS?
4) I have read some positive reviews regarding BlueMail, is it possible to use this for Gmail accounts without GMS?
5) Without GMS, will UK banking apps only work if already on AppGallery? I currently use Starling, First Direct & NatWest - especially the former two so hoping that they would work.
6) If I did go down the GMS route, would I need to be reinstalling it every time there is an Android or Google update or would it be a one-off?
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1. Most can be phone-cloned. They will not update unless you install Aurora, APKPure, Aptoide, Amazon App Store .. just install all of these and pick your favourite. Notifications wont work for most.
2. Firefox is better and can sync across devices.
3. Part of the attraction of the P40 Pro is going google-free for the challenge and to support Huawei .. I am using Office from the Huawei App Gallery.
4. Despite being on the Huawei App Gallery, BlueMail notifications were unreliable with HMS-naked ... warning message that no Google Cloud Messaging is installed .. that you had to clear evey day or two .. and people that are using BlueMail don't realise that notifications are delayed for a while. BlueMail is a bad app at the moment.
5. Banking apps .. phone-clone or install from Aurora, APKPure, Aptoide, Amazon App Store ... my banks are working fine . not too many people are reporting problems.
6. Why do you need GMS? Have they fixed notifications with a GMS install? microG is a much simpler and more reliable solution at the moment to give you notifications and you can still get apps from Aurora, APKPure, Aptoide, Amazon App Store.
If you find a reason that HMS-naked and HMS-microG are not acceptable ... and you really have to do a HMS-GMS setup, then I would not buy the P40 Pro ... just get the P30 Pro.
4. I used the stock Huawei email application. Lets you add multiple accounts (gmail/outlook) and gives you notifications without issue. I ended up preferring it to Gmail/Outlook app.
5. I don't have my P40 Pro any longer, but when I did FirstDirect app worked fine through GMS. Monzo bank did also. I downloaded NatWest and it worked but I didn't have an account so couldn't actually log in.
6. You only lose your GMS install if you factory reset. Software updates don't affect it.
Kotd88 said:
4. I used the stock Huawei email application. Lets you add multiple accounts (gmail/outlook) and gives you notifications without issue. I ended up preferring it to Gmail/Outlook app.
5. I don't have my P40 Pro any longer, but when I did FirstDirect app worked fine through GMS. Monzo bank did also. I downloaded NatWest and it worked but I didn't have an account so couldn't actually log in.
6. You only lose your GMS install if you factory reset. Software updates don't affect it.
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4. with my testing on P40 Pro with HMS-naked, the notifications with the Huawei email app are delayed .. particularly with a linked gmail account in the Huawei email app.
is your feedback with HMS-naked, HMS+microG or HMS+GMS?
linux2525 said:
4. with my testing on P40 Pro with HMS-naked, the notifications with the Huawei email app are delayed .. particularly with a linked gmail account in the Huawei email app.
is your feedback with HMS-naked, HMS+microG or HMS+GMS?
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I pretty much used the phone out the box with GMS, so maybe that's why I had a different experience. Gmail and Outlook definitely came through with timely notifications using stock app for me.
DaveHTC200 said:
Regarding #5.
Starling works, though Natwest will not either with or without GMS sadly.
I now use yolt which will sync your account for the next best alternative.
#6,
Currently any updates haven't mean a reinstallation of anything.
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I have had a mate30 pro for about 4 months and ive not had any struggles, Depending on who you bank with currently you may not be able to get an 'app' but what you can do is save a hot link, So from the browser hit the dots on the top right and add to home screen, What you can do which is what ive done is saved a link with in the login page, really for me it does the same thing shows my balance and that's it really.
I mean if you're looking for apps through app gallery there is 2 key ones I would really recommend one is MoreApps and one is Petal both of which once installed act as a hub for other apps you may need. Its one that I know I've relied on hugely.
Other than that how you getting on with it?
It arrived yesterday and really it's a beautiful phone! Haven't had too much time to play with it yet but seems great.
I cloned over my apps from my Mate Pro20 and had a quick play. All of my WhatsApp history seemed to automatically copy over which is great. My main issue so far is that a couple of apps I have tried to use (e.g. The Athletic) say that Google Services Installation Required in order to use them. If hey are not on AppStore, is there any way I can use them as apps without GMS?
Similar question for other apps that I have cloned over such as betting apps. When I load them it says that location services must be enabled to use the app (which they are) but it doesn't eem to be picking up on this (probably GMS related?).
Are More Apps & Petal a way round sourcing apps not on AppStore but without having to install GMS?
Tmel14 said:
My main issue so far is that a couple of apps I have tried to use (e.g. The Athletic) say that Google Services Installation Required in order to use them. If hey are not on AppStore, is there any way I can use them as apps without GMS?
Are More Apps & Petal a way round sourcing apps not on AppStore but without having to install GMS?
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1. I had some success with some apps that were broken with HMS-naked, but worked successfully with HMS+microG (but I have never tried HMS+GMS as it is silly to buy a P40 Pro then hack GMS onto it .. just buy a different phone).
2. Petal is a terrible app ... it just links you to other app store .. google these well know app stores, go to their websites and get the apk for the store and then install the new store on your p40 pro ..
aptoide
apkpure
amazon appstore
f-droid
aurora
I have them all installed and play around with each .. they mostly have similar apps (other than amazon appstore and f-droid).
dont waste your time with petal.
Thanks, I'm a total novice here so it's really helpful to get some advice.
1) Is microg relatively easy to install? Am I right in thinking that it adds a Google foundation but without GMS? Therefore, some apps from Playstore that didn't work when first cloned may then work?
2) would the benefit of those appstores be that they may have versions of apps that don't require GMS but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore?
3) One other question that I thought of... for apps that I clone over and work fine (but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore) - how will I keep them updated? I do have a Samsung tablet so would I be able to periodically clone them over from that or would I need to do something else?
Tmel14 said:
Thanks, I'm a total novice here so it's really helpful to get some advice.
1) Is microg relatively easy to install? Am I right in thinking that it adds a Google foundation but without GMS? Therefore, some apps from Playstore that didn't work when first cloned may then work?
2) would the benefit of those appstores be that they may have versions of apps that don't require GMS but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore?
3) One other question that I thought of... for apps that I clone over and work fine (but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore) - how will I keep them updated? I do have a Samsung tablet so would I be able to periodically clone them over from that or would I need to do something else?
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1. Refer below .. 10 steps but they are simple steps ... it might take 15 mins for the first time .. 5 mins for the second time .. small open-source app to provide notifications only. what notifications are broken for you?
2. correct .. aurora even looks the same as the google playstore .. install some apps, update as required. I often just update apps directly from aurora or apkpure and dont even use the huawei app gallery.
3. Update your phone-cloned apps with aurora, apkpure, aptoide, f-droid, amazon appstore, etc ... I usually update at different stores every few days just for fun ... today is aurora day .. tomorrow is apkpure day.
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone.
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again - it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
linux2525 said:
1. Refer below .. 10 steps but they are simple steps ... it might take 15 mins for the first time .. 5 mins for the second time .. small open-source app to provide notifications only. what notifications are broken for you?
2. correct .. aurora even looks the same as the google playstore .. install some apps, update as required. I often just update apps directly from aurora or apkpure and dont even use the huawei app gallery.
3. Update your phone-cloned apps with aurora, apkpure, aptoide, f-droid, amazon appstore, etc ... I usually update at different stores every few days just for fun ... today is aurora day .. tomorrow is apkpure day.
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone.
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again - it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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That's great, thank you. I'm still using my Mate Pro 20 as my phone at the moment so not really sure how effective the notifications on my P40 Pro are. It sounds like it would make sense to factory reset and Microg my P40 Pro before I properly make the switch to using that then? You mentioned it should only take 5 mins to do Microg the second time... unless I misread the instruction guide, why would I need to do it a second time?
And presumably once I've installed Microg, I could just clone my apps over from the Mate Pro 20 as normal?
Tmel14 said:
1. That's great, thank you. I'm still using my Mate Pro 20 as my phone at the moment so not really sure how effective the notifications on my P40 Pro are.
2. It sounds like it would make sense to factory reset and Microg my P40 Pro before I properly make the switch to using that then?
3. You mentioned it should only take 5 mins to do Microg the second time... unless I misread the instruction guide, why would I need to do it a second time?
4. And presumably once I've installed Microg, I could just clone my apps over from the Mate Pro 20 as normal?
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1. I would test your essential apps first and check if notifications are working for you. what are your critical apps for notifications? maybe you can go HMS-naked and no need for HMS+microG.
2. You have to install apps after installing microG ... otherwise the apps don't open .. if you have only installed a few apps, then no need to reset ... you can just install microG, uninstall those few apps, then reinstall those few apps .. but if you have 20 apps, it might be quicker to reset and start fresh.
3. quicker the second time as you know where to click! that's all.
4. yep.
but .. hopefully your critical apps have notifications working real-time & consistently, then no need for microG.
linux2525 said:
1. I would test your essential apps first and check if notifications are working for you. what are your critical apps for notifications? maybe you can go HMS-naked and no need for HMS+microG.
2. You have to install apps after installing microG ... otherwise the apps don't open .. if you have only installed a few apps, then no need to reset ... you can just install microG, uninstall those few apps, then reinstall those few apps .. but if you have 20 apps, it might be quicker to reset and start fresh.
3. quicker the second time as you know where to click! that's all.
4. yep.
but .. hopefully your critical apps have notifications working real-time & consistently, then no need for microG.
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Critical apps would be WhatsApp, SMS messages and emails. Other notifications such as news/sports and some other social media would be important but not critical.
I'll pop my SIM in tonight and do a comparison of how notifications are popping up vs my Galaxy tablet and Mate Pro 20 to see whether a reset and microg is necessary.
Thanks again for the help, I'll let you know how I get on!
linux2525 said:
1. Refer below .. 10 steps but they are simple steps ... it might take 15 mins for the first time .. 5 mins for the second time .. small open-source app to provide notifications only. what notifications are broken for you?
2. correct .. aurora even looks the same as the google playstore .. install some apps, update as required. I often just update apps directly from aurora or apkpure and dont even use the huawei app gallery.
3. Update your phone-cloned apps with aurora, apkpure, aptoide, f-droid, amazon appstore, etc ... I usually update at different stores every few days just for fun ... today is aurora day .. tomorrow is apkpure day.
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone.
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again - it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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Thanks for the guide, I followed it and got microG running, then cloned over my apps and appear to be getting notifications through (at least for the apps I've tried), which is great!
I have now run into a problem with my Google account though. I was trying to sign in to YT Music and typed in my Google account details but it said there was a problem communicating with Google servers. I then went in to Settings > Users and Accounts > Google and there were some sync issues so I removed the account and went to add it again but now it won't work as before, My microG is also showing as without an active Google account and when I try and add it, I am getting the same issue, I enter my email and password and then it takes me to Googles Terms of Service, which I agree but then get the following message:
Sorry... There was a problem communicating with Google servers. Try again later.
Any idea how I can add my Google account again?
Tmel14 said:
Thanks for the guide, I followed it and got microG running, then cloned over my apps and appear to be getting notifications through (at least for the apps I've tried), which is great!
I have now run into a problem with my Google account though. I was trying to sign in to YT Music and typed in my Google account details but it said there was a problem communicating with Google servers. I then went in to Settings > Users and Accounts > Google and there were some sync issues so I removed the account and went to add it again but now it won't work as before, My microG is also showing as without an active Google account and when I try and add it, I am getting the same issue, I enter my email and password and then it takes me to Googles Terms of Service, which I agree but then get the following message:
Sorry... There was a problem communicating with Google servers. Try again later.
Any idea how I can add my Google account again?
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So I cleared the data on my MicroG Services Core app which appeared to fix the problem of not being able to sign in. The issue I now have is that I've signed in to my Google account then when I go to an app such as YT Music and go to sign in, the account doesn't show up, when I then click 'add account' it takes me to MicroG Services but I type in my email and it just says 'This account already exists on your device'...
So my Google account is registered on the phone but whenever I try and sign in to any app with it, it redirects to MicroG Services Core for sign in and then it just says that the account already exists and I cannot go any further with log in
Tmel14 said:
So my Google account is registered on the phone but whenever I try and sign in to any app with it, it redirects to MicroG Services Core for sign in and then it just says that the account already exists and I cannot go any further with log in
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I think you're expecting too much from microG on a non-rooted phone without signature spoofing to use the full microG capabilities.
If want to run a full microG install, then buy a phone with good rooted ROM support with microG already built-in.
I logged into microG and have done no other google logins since .... if any apps have requested a google login, then I have ignored.
you can use amazon music, tidal, spotify, etc .. no idea how to use YoutTubeMusic
linux2525 said:
I think you're expecting too much from microG on a non-rooted phone without signature spoofing to use the full microG capabilities.
If want to run a full microG install, then buy a phone with good rooted ROM support with microG already built-in.
I logged into microG and have done no other google logins since .... if any apps have requested a google login, then I have ignored.
you can use amazon music, tidal, spotify, etc .. no idea how to use YoutTubeMusic
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I definitely don't know the intricacies of what microG provides but it was definitely enabling much better performance from notifications.
This is an issue for me though as I get free YT Music so not something I would particularly want to give up. I don't appear to have an issue signing into YouTube via my browser with my Google account but it appears any app that requires an email log in directly on the app (as opposed to through a browser) automatically routes me to log in via microG core services and when I then try and log in, it says that the account is already regsitered on my device (which it is but I can't seem to access it for this purpose).
I'm not sure if I just did part of the process slightly wrong and if it#s worth me resetting and doing the whole process again, or if for some reason it's not possible?
linux2525 said:
I think you're expecting too much from microG on a non-rooted phone without signature spoofing to use the full microG capabilities.
If want to run a full microG install, then buy a phone with good rooted ROM support with microG already built-in.
I logged into microG and have done no other google logins since .... if any apps have requested a google login, then I have ignored.
you can use amazon music, tidal, spotify, etc .. no idea how to use YoutTubeMusic
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I'm wondering if it would work if I reset the phone, cloned over any apps where I need the few apps where I need to log in via Google (I don't need notifications for them anyway), then installed microG, then cloned over all the rest of the apps?