Are there carrier delays for firmware updates like with regular phones? My ATT S3 has yet to receive Samsung's latest firmware. I play not, ATT is a joke when it comes to firmware timing.
Yes there are usually delays with the carrier models. I have the Gear S2 and S3 on T-Mobile. I have always gotten updates for the S2 a little while after the wifi versions got the Samsung update.
Steveborough said:
Are there carrier delays for firmware updates like with regular phones? My ATT S3 has yet to receive Samsung's latest firmware. I play not, ATT is a joke when it comes to firmware timing.
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Carriers are mostly slower to release firmware updates but sometimes faster.
From Nov of 2015 to Nov of 2016 for my AT&T Gear S2 3G, all firmware updates except for one came later than the unlocked Gear S2 models. AT&T was faster than Verizon & T-Mobile though.
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Carriers are mostly slower to release firmware updates but sometimes faster.
From Nov of 2015 to Nov of 2016 for my AT&T Gear S2 3G, all firmware updates except for one came later than the unlocked Gear S2 models. AT&T was faster than Verizon & T-Mobile though.
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So Gear S3 updates will come from the carrier as opposed to straight from Samsung?
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So Gear S3 updates will come from the carrier as opposed to straight from Samsung?
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Yes the carrier controls our firmware, think of it just like most cell phones. Usually the manufacturer releases an update and then each carrier will adapt it into their next firmware update. Right now only AT&T and T-Mobile have the LTE version of the S3. We will see which carrier releases an update first.
Who cares who releases 1st, they both take forever compared to Samsung, ugh! Combined with a $25 monthly (with taxes) on AT&T I'm leaning towards returning for LTE-less
Where's AT&T's update?!!
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From Telus Customer Service team on Oct 28th 2013.
Our Data Team advised me that TELUS typically follows 'Verizon's' by 2-3 weeks after their launch of the 4.3 update; and Verizon is very close to their launch.
That said, I recommend that you check the TELUS site for our release going forward. http://mobility.telus.com/en/BC/Samsung-Galaxy-S4/
Should be a day before AT&T... at least that's the way the skyrocket/s3 updates were. We all know how speedy AT&T is at releasing updates and seems Canada loves those timelines.
All I want is the modem. Could care less about the rest as there are so many 4.3 updated ROMS available.
Would be nice if we were on the current android build before 4.4 is released... I doubt that will happen though
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It would really be nice if the upgrade cycle follows close to Google release schedule for the flagship devices.
I only got the Samsung S4 else i would have waited out for N5
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Should be a day before AT&T... at least that's the way the skyrocket/s3 updates were. We all know how speedy AT&T is at releasing updates and seems Canada loves those timelines.
All I want is the modem. Could care less about the rest as there are so many 4.3 updated ROMS available.
Would be nice if we were on the current android build before 4.4 is released... I doubt that will happen though
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Looks like Samsung lost the plot on this one. Google ended up releasing 4.4 before Samsung could release 4.3 for S4 devices world wide.
Thumbs down for Samsung on this.
Samsung north america sucks
How is that the Samsung S3 in Europe gets Jelly Bean before S4 in North America
Looks like the North America market is not important enough for Samsung
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_43_for_samsung_galaxy_s_iii_rolling_out_now-news-7121.php
In Europe is Samsung who is pushing the update, in the states is all up to att and other carriers.
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Samsung should be pushing the update in North America, leave it to the phone owners from where they want to install the updates?
from Samsung link or their own phone carrier link.
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Samsung should be pushing the update in North America, leave it to the phone owners from where they want to install the updates?
from Samsung link or their own phone carrier link.
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thanks captain obvious! Samsung would if they could, but the north american cell companies, in an attempt to keep us under their thumb, want the last say in what content, options and monitoring software our phones provide/hinder us with, and therefore refuse to buy the cell phones without doing the updates themselves.
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thanks captain obvious! Samsung would if they could, but the north american cell companies, in an attempt to keep us under their thumb, want the last say in what content, options and monitoring software our phones provide/hinder us with, and therefore refuse to buy the cell phones without doing the updates themselves.
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Then it is not our phones... It is their phones in our hands.
The cell carriers in Canada are just plain bad...
its not just canada, its the united states too... strike that. the u.s. (no offence) is worse. look at att requesting locked bootloaders on the S4 and other samsung devices now.... thats... just wrong.
the best thing you can do to stay updated is what you are doing here. run custom software. to stay the most "up-to-date" you will have to run ports of nexus roms, Ports of Touchwiz roms, or ASOP derivatives.
as im finding out, it looks like us canadian guys can flash any ATT rom, if we immediately flash a Tmobile kernel with the same android version number. Tmo device is almost the same and without locked bootloaders but lacks NFC but nfc has no dependencies on the kernel apparently.
the ridiculous part is having to wait on the modems to catch up with everyone else and not have to worry about stupid data drops using an i337m
Quick background story, I've been using an HTC phone since the M7, and owned all the M Flagships and currently using an AT&T Branded M9. My wife is currently using a AT&T branded Galaxy S5. I really liked how open my HTC phones are, and all 3 of them had been able to be Fully SIM Unlocked, S-OFF, and can run any compatible ROM. The AT&T Branded GS5 of course only can use AT&T Software and its been a pain waiting on AT&T for patches and updates.
We're planning to replace them both with new Galaxy S7s and since we're planning to buy them outright, my question is which one should we buy? From I read it looks like all units have the same hardware, but the TMO variants seems to at least have the bootloader unlocked and should be SIM Unlocked if I bought it outright.
Our basic requirements.
- Sim unlocked(able)
- Bootloader Unlocked(able)
- Able to use Android Pay/Samsung Pay in the USA
- Rooting is nice but not required, and as long as it don't break A.Pay/S.Pay
- Able to work on AT&T with little or no issue (not missing any LTE Bands, etc)
- Open to get the Exynos model if can still support A.Pay/S.Pay in USA and elsewhere.
- Able to flash debloated or custom ROMs if needed
Its been awhile since i did any work on any Samsung Phones, so I don't know if its just as easy to flash ROMs and Recoveries like my HTCs
Thanks for any feedback on the matter.
You want the tmo version.
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You want the tmo version.
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It figures as much. How easy or difficult is it to flash non-carrier rom? I know people are just started getting their S7s, did the s6 have any issues with flashing a clean rom and keeping all A.Pay and S.Pay?
There's no development currently on these phones since the sources haven't dropped yet since the phone hasn't technically launched, after mar 11 samsung will release some sources.
If you're looking to remove bloat on non-rooted phones your only options is this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en with a rooted rom android/samsung pay wont work.
Last year with the S6 I know for sure the international versions worked just fine with AT&T's LTE network. But last year all models used the same modem (Shanon 333), but this year the international version and the U.S. version are different and both have integrated modem and that throws in an uncertainty. I see no reason why the International versions worked last year with Samsung's modem but not this year, but until someone reports with first-hand experience I would not pull the trigger on the international version (Exynos).
I used SM-G920I (S6) and SM-G928G (S6 Edge+) and both worked flawlessly on AT&T's network.
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Last year with the S6 I know for sure the international versions worked just fine with AT&T's LTE network. But last year all models used the same modem (Shanon 333), but this year the international version and the U.S. version are different and both have integrated modem and that throws in an uncertainty. I see no reason why the International versions worked last year with Samsung's modem but not this year, but until someone reports with first-hand experience I would not pull the trigger on the international version (Exynos).
I used SM-G920I (S6) and SM-G928G (S6 Edge+) and both worked flawlessly on AT&T's network.
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Are you able to use Android pay or Samsung pay on those International models? Thanks
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Are you able to use Android pay or Samsung pay on those International models? Thanks
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No.
Edit: Oh, wait. Android Pay = Yes, Samsung Pay = No.
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No.
Edit: Oh, wait. Android Pay = Yes, Samsung Pay = No.
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Hmmm, still missing out on Samsung Pay eh, I wonder if there would be a non-carrier version of the phone we can get in the states with full support of all avaliable features and services. :fingers-crossed:
I'd like to bump this old thread for updates now that the S7 has been around for some time. I'm looking to get an S7, and it looks like the G930U variant might be the one to get now- is that right? I have the same requirements as the original poster, but I'll list them anyway:
-Able to work on AT&T with no issue (I read somewhere that some aspects of AT&T LTE are not supported? What impact does this have?)
-root is required (is it true that rooting prevents being able to encrypt the phone?)
-no bloat or bloat is removable (seems this is the main benefit of G930U?)
-SD card slot (seems like all US models have the SD card slot?)
Are there different versions of the G930U? Is this, for example, the right one: http://a.co/6QgYIxA ?
Thanks
So a couple years back on Black Friday I bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 from Cricket Wireless at a price of $200 and at first I felt like I got a great deal. I thought I was going to get the AT&T branded S4 (i337), but instead I got an obscure Cricket branded S4 (i337z). I was frustrated when the AT&T version received the update to lollipop but mine didn't. I'm looking to buy a new phone and have been doing a little research into it, but I still have a few questions.
1. Are unlocked cell phones more likely to get an android OS update than a carrier branded phone? Do they get them faster?
2. If I bought an unlocked Samsung or a Google Nexus, would I be able to update the OS without a Carrier OTA?
3. I've heard that Samsung & Google are now offering monthly security updates, do they rely on the carrier to push these updates or does it update directly from Samsung/Google? Will I still receive these security updates on a prepaid carrier like Cricket?
4. Are carrier branded phones even worth considering in your opinion?
Thank you for your time, and sorry for the newb questions.
Anyone have anything at all to add to this thread?
No update yet on s3 classic 4g verizon model
Yep, probably like phones, carrier models are usually last since they have to get carrier approval on uodates.
I've been using the unlocked Z Fold 2 but in need to use Wifi calling which is missing so I would like to know if it is possible to flash AT&T firmware to get Wifi calling? If so, how? Also, will I be able to switch back as well?
There is no AT&T firmware available, nor will there ever be, most likely, which is why my unlocked Fold2 sits on a shelf and I use the AT&T Fold2 that I purchased from AT&T. Either live w/out wifi calling or switch to T-Mobile or buy an AT&T Fold2.
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There is no AT&T firmware available, nor will there ever be, most likely, which is why my unlocked Fold2 sits on a shelf and I use the AT&T Fold2 that I purchased from AT&T. Either live w/out wifi calling or switch to T-Mobile or buy an AT&T Fold2.
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Aaaah, that's not what I was hoping to hear. Oh well, look like I will be buying At&T version of Samsung phones again..... even though I hate all the bloatware.
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Aaaah, that's not what I was hoping to hear. Oh well, look like I will be buying At&T version of Samsung phones again..... even though I hate all the bloatware.
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There's WAAAAYYY more Samsung bloat than the teeny weenie bit of AT&T bloat that's all disable-able anyway.
I solved ALL of my problems with AT&T on the U1:
AT&T T-Mobile
ajamils said:
I've been using the unlocked Z Fold 2 but in need to use Wifi calling which is missing so I would like to know if it is possible to flash AT&T firmware to get Wifi calling? If so, how? Also, will I be able to switch back as well?
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Yes, it's absolutely possible. Has been since the Galaxy S8. All the US versions of Galaxy devices are identical. The only difference is the firmware, which is cross flash compatible.
Two caveats:
1. ATT firmware is not as readily available as other carriers, but it can be found. If/When Samsung upgrades the Z Fold 2 to BYOD firmware, that won't be an issue.
For now, check this thread for the ATT firmware:
F916U AT&T Odin Firmware Links
For those who don't know, F916U is the model number of all of the US carrier versions of the Galaxy Z Fold2 5G. The F916U1 is the model number of the same device, but sold by Samsung SIM unlocked and with no carrier bloatware. Firmware is 100%...
forum.xda-developers.com
2. If you flash ATT firmware to an unlocked device, you will NOT receive OTA updates. You'll have to manually flash each new version with ODIN. ATT is the only carrier I know of that does this.
ajamils said:
I've been using the unlocked Z Fold 2 but in need to use Wifi calling which is missing so I would like to know if it is possible to flash AT&T firmware to get Wifi calling? If so, how? Also, will I be able to switch back as well?
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Dont know if this was what you were looking for or not
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