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Can't hear phone call with aftermarket headphone

anyone have this problem. with all other phone i have before all of them i can answer or make a call while i am enjoying my music. d i9000 have no problem calling out or picking up, but the phone call can't be here through the headphone i have to unplug it and use the phone speaker. anyone can help me out here? many thanks.

dinfung said:
anyone have this problem. with all other phone i have before all of them i can answer or make a call while i am enjoying my music. d i9000 have no problem calling out or picking up, but the phone call can't be here through the headphone i have to unplug it and use the phone speaker. anyone can help me out here? many thanks.
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same here.. I wonder why....

anyone else have this problem? have anyone try with the oem samsung headset? we r stuck to use with the oem 1?

same here ... i think we need an option to say use headphones instead of headset which it is looking for .

The galaxy s seems to have a non standard alignment (probably because it isnt standardised) If i listent to music through headphones that have a mic on it doesn't sound right because i believe its playing through the wrong channels (trying to play sound through the mic probably!).
I think you're screwed, use a bluetooth headset instead.

I'm having the same problem. I couldn't understand why it wouldn't put voice calls through my own earphones (obviously without microphone). So I bought a Griffin Smarttalk adapter hoping this would sort it and I still have no luck. Even though this adds the three contacts to the headphone jack, still no calls will come through my earphones. Very frustrating. Whether or not this is a non-standard alignment, it should be fixable with software as the phone is able to play media through standard earphones. Why can't something so simple just work.

ok guys, heres the thing
the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think
it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic
the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's
i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too
so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.
the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10
worked perfect
i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems

Yikes, your solution sounds like a Rube Goldberg contraption. An adapter to an adapter to the headsets.
This really sucks. Would have been a deal breaker for me had I known about it before buying the Galaxy S without option to return unless defective.
I wish some of the 100's of glowing reviews on the internet about this phone had caught this. All my headsets work with iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G, iPods, my MacBook Pro, etc...the Samsung's the only one with issues. Ugh.
furstrated said:
ok guys, heres the thing
the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think
it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic
the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's
i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too
so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.
the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10
worked perfect
i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems
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furstrated said:
ok guys, heres the thing
the samsung headphone jack layout is four pole t/r/r/s left right mic ground i think
it will not recognize an aftermarket headset with iphone jack config where the ground and mic is reversed or t/r/r/s left right ground mic
the samsung pin layout is similar to nokia's
i had a problem with my triplefi10vi too
so i got my old nokia 5310 headset adapter with mic and used it.
the layout is SGS<-nokia adaptor wiith mic<-triplefi10 standard cable without mic<-triplefi10
worked perfect
i can control the playback and answer call with the nokia phone adapter and it all gets routed to my triplefi10 iems
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So I'm wondering if it wouldn't be easier for those of us who don't have the parts you already do to get something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Ada..._1_2?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1278989309&sr=1-2
and then just cut into it and cross the appropriate wires to give the proper t/r/r/s wiring. I think I'll run over to Best Buy and see if I can find something similar and give it a try.

I successfully made an adapter by taking a short 4-pole extension cord for iPhones and then cross-wired the mic and ground wires. On the iphone it's t/r/r/s (L/R/G/M) and on the Samsung it's t/r/r/s (L/R/M/G) - on the adapter I cut the cord open, then soldered the G->M and M->G.
Works great. Music volume perfect, headset works for mic and headphones in phone calls, and the mic switch answers/hangs-up the phone as well as pause/play music player.
I'm happily using my Etymotics HF2s on the Samsung with full functionality as I type this.
This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.

This does not sound good.

distortedloop said:
This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.
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While I agree with you, honestly, the way I read this is you mean that Samsung and Nokia have it wrong. Which, on the surface, I just flatly disagree with. Now, anyone with facts can set me right, if Apple's interface is better from a quality standpoint then so-beit.
BUT...and this assume's I read your comment right, sense you essentially mean that since the iPhone, N1 & Evo 4G, then the two biggest cell phone manufacturers in the world have it wrong...Please keep in mind Apple is the new comer and that HTC, while having a long history with OEM builds that got rebranded, doesn't really have a long, storied history.

NO, what he is saying is that he wishes that all manufacturers would adopt the same pin-out. This would benefit everyone as then we could use any headset that we preferred especially as the Samsung is an in-ear type and they don't make and ear-bud type for the SGS which I would prefer. The SGS supplied headset would have been a deal breaker for me too if it was advertised prior to purchase.

peterfz30 said:
NO, what he is saying is that he wishes that all manufacturers would adopt the same pin-out. This would benefit everyone as then we could use any headset that we preferred especially as the Samsung is an in-ear type and they don't make and ear-bud type for the SGS which I would prefer. The SGS supplied headset would have been a deal breaker for me too if it was advertised prior to purchase.
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Correct, that was my only point as it was written. I don't care who is right or wrong, I just want my aftermarket parts on something this ubiquitous to be interchangeable.
Buying a cheap cable and rewiring it isn't a big deal for me, but for most consumers it's probably never going to happen. There must be some third party adapter that works for exactly this, but I didn't find any with some quick searches that I was sure would work.
alovell83 said:
While I agree with you, honestly, the way I read this is you mean that Samsung and Nokia have it wrong. Which, on the surface, I just flatly disagree with. Now, anyone with facts can set me right, if Apple's interface is better from a quality standpoint then so-beit.
BUT...and this assume's I read your comment right, sense you essentially mean that since the iPhone, N1 & Evo 4G, then the two biggest cell phone manufacturers in the world have it wrong...Please keep in mind Apple is the new comer and that HTC, while having a long history with OEM builds that got rebranded, doesn't really have a long, storied history.
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Wow, I really don't want to get into a pissing contest debate over who has it right and who has it wrong. That's really the only thing you took away from my post?
My background, as indicated in the signature below is mostly Apple and HTC products, so of course from my point of view, that's the "correct" way. LOL.
Seriously, my only real point, as said above is that I wish this were industry standardized. There's probably some secret agenda out there to sell more headsets by not making them not easily swapped between other products. I can imagine most normal consumers whose Etymotics or Bose or whatever didn't work from one phone to another just buying a new pair that did. Lots more sales for the manufacturers that way.
Since we're Android users in this forum, if I were going to debate who has it right or wrong OFFICIALLY for Android, I'd point out that the HTC/Google Nexus One is the officially anointed chosen phone from Google, and the official "reference phone" to show manufacturers what Google thinks is the right way to do an Android device. Since the Nexus One has the t/r/r/s of L/R/G/M format, it is the official Google way to design an Android phone.
In reality, Google probably didn't pay that much attention to that kind of thing, or if they did, they chose to go with the iPhone pattern as part of some strategy. Apple probably went opposite the industry norm for the reason of just being jack-asses with their i/o ports and because Steve didn't want you using anything but Apple headsets.
That said, and five minutes wasted arguing a point I don't really care about, I'll let you say you won the debate and I'll acknowledge that Apple/HTC/Google as the newcomers must be wrong with their design.
It still doesn't change the fact that I wish this were standardized across the industry, whatever the standard is, which was all I said originally. Note that my original post that you quoted said:
"but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way"
not "but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same wrong way."
Big difference in the meaning of those two statements.
Take care!

dinfung said:
anyone have this problem. with all other phone i have before all of them i can answer or make a call while i am enjoying my music. d i9000 have no problem calling out or picking up, but the phone call can't be here through the headphone i have to unplug it and use the phone speaker. anyone can help me out here? many thanks.
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that sounds like my old Treo 650 / 600
If you use Bluetooth, you wont have that problem

Don't forget htc only recently started to use standard 35mm jacks, before it was 25mm and mini usb. God how that annoyed winmo users like me
Sent back in time from my Samsung Galaxy SSS

ickyboo said:
Don't forget htc only recently started to use standard 35mm jacks, before it was 25mm and mini usb. God how that annoyed winmo users like me
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The explains the plethora of 3.5 to 2.5 adapters on the Amazon market.

i really hated those 2.5mm plugs it was always annoying, i still have about 5 of those adapters at home that i don't use
from the time when i used my Treo in a daily basis

distortedloop said:
I successfully made an adapter by taking a short 4-pole extension cord for iPhones and then cross-wired the mic and ground wires. On the iphone it's t/r/r/s (L/R/G/M) and on the Samsung it's t/r/r/s (L/R/M/G) - on the adapter I cut the cord open, then soldered the G->M and M->G.
Works great. Music volume perfect, headset works for mic and headphones in phone calls, and the mic switch answers/hangs-up the phone as well as pause/play music player.
I'm happily using my Etymotics HF2s on the Samsung with full functionality as I type this.
This is the kind of stuff I wish the industry would standardize on. iPhones, Nexus One, EVO 4G all wired the same, but apparently Nokia and Samsung wired the same different way. Silliness.
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Great man. Can you post a picture?i am looking for a non cord solution.
So with an angle. Would that be possible?
Ciao valentijn

How about just an ordinary headset
How about using just an ordinary stereo headset like I do on all of my Nokias an iPhones?
Samsung should recognize it doesn't have a microphone and use the built in one, like all other phones in the world.
I can'd say it's a deal breaker but is pain in ass.
I can only hope it is software related and can be fixed in the future.

External Speakers for G2

Looking at buying a set of external speakers to play Pandora on with my G2. I don't want anything that's compatible with iPods, because I don't need that stupid dock connector. Hopefully I can get something that's less than $100, has great sound, and connects to the 3.5 mm headphone jack on the G2.
Any suggestions?

Its not the prettiest, but any pair of computer speakers will do the job for cheap. I use an old 2.1 Logitech system that has a sub and the sound is great!

Thinkgeek.com has a decent protable speaker setup. There is also a Sony branded tube speaker that is supposed to be good also. Seen em on ebay.

nobler1050 said:
Its not the prettiest, but any pair of computer speakers will do the job for cheap. I use an old 2.1 Logitech system that has a sub and the sound is great!
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Agreed. I believe you can get a decent set of Comp speakers at Walmart. If not there definitely Frys.

I'm currently using an older pair of computer speakers that has a sub-woofer and it works great. However, it's not the prettiest thing to look at, nor is it even remotely portable in the event I want to take them somewhere with me. Thanks so far for the suggestions, if I find something that works well I'll share it with everyone here.

http://www.usa.philips.com/c/mp3-player-accessories/universal-sba1600_37/prd/en/
this may not be what you are looking for but I have this in my backpack at all times. I use it maybe once every 2 or 3 days... Sucker it pretty loud and lasts a long time. Had it for about a year now, I'm sure you could find one on ebay for 10 bucks.

I couldn't pass up this opportunity. For anyone looking at this at a future date (considering the date of this topic already), looking for a top-notch quality external speaker for the G2 (or any other Android device at that) the X-Mini II Capsule Speaker has served me well. It provides more sound than you'd ever be able to get out of the phone, and it's really worth the money you spend on it compared to some of the other suggestions listed (such as computer speakers, which wouldn't be practical).

I reccomend the Supertooth disco --> http://www.supertooth.net/EN/DISCO/#page=page-1 It has great sound and the battery can last up to 10 hours if you let it play on medium sound. Its worth the money the sound is great and its easy to bring with you if you're going to some friends for example.

Wolfy9247 said:
I couldn't pass up this opportunity. For anyone looking at this at a future date (considering the date of this topic already), looking for a top-notch quality external speaker for the G2 (or any other Android device at that) the X-Mini II Capsule Speaker has served me well. It provides more sound than you'd ever be able to get out of the phone, and it's really worth the money you spend on it compared to some of the other suggestions listed (such as computer speakers, which wouldn't be practical).
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I would have to Second the X-mini 2's the sound you get from them is superb and the ability to buddy jack them is a feature that is often missed on many models

Just heard one of those new Bluetooth speakers they carry at best buy and they sound amazing. Much better than a boombox even lol. Anyways they run for about 50 bucks and they have their own rechargeable battery built in. They use micro USB to charge to so you can use the same setup you already have. I'm gonna get one you have to hear them to believe it.

bluetooth/minijack jambox set, do the work greatly.
it also have mic for conference mode.
tested with my rom, works perfectly
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S6 Sound??

We all know the HTC One M9's sound is some of the best, if not the best around. And HTC made a pretty big deal about it with the unveiling.
I was waiting for Samsung to mention the sound of the S6, but they never said a word. Sound is very important to me in a phone and a dealbreaker if it's really poor.
Does anyone know what the specs are for the onboard sound?

Not much detail has come out other than the fact that the speaker is at the bottom and I think AndroidCentral said Samsung claimed its 50% better sound than S5, then added "and we agree that it doesn't sound as terrible" (I believe source is their review preview of S6) I personally use Bluetooth LG Tone+ so I almost never have to sorry bout the onboard speaker.

it will be louder, but as all samsung phones, it will still sound like a tin can. maybe one day samsung will finnally start taking notes from HTC (and the Sony Z3) when it comes to making a phone with proper sounding speaker(s) on a $500 device+

tft said:
it will be louder, but as all samsung phones, it will still sound like a tin can. maybe one day samsung will finnally start taking notes from HTC (and the Sony Z3) when it comes to making a phone with proper sounding speaker(s) on a $500 device+
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Honestly I doubt it, I don't think people use phone speakers enough to care. Most people just use Bluetooth speakers or head phones as opposed to the device's built in speaker, probably not worth the investment for Sammy. I like the idea don't get me wrong, just don't see it happening, at least not anytime in the next couple years.

Master Ramy said:
Honestly I doubt it, I don't think people use phone speakers enough to care. Most people just use Bluetooth speakers or head phones as opposed to the device's built in speaker, probably not worth the investment for Sammy. I like the idea don't get me wrong, just don't see it happening, at least not anytime in the next couple years.
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earbuds for music, yes, but a phone is a multimedia devices (videos, movies,etc) where dual front speakers really shine..

tft said:
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on a $500 device+
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Let me know where you can get an S6 for $500 please !!!

I reckon Samsung didn't mention it because they know it's something they won't beat HTC on with their current design structure.
Until you see two large speaker grilles on Samsung's devices like HTC's, there won't be any competition on that front. Software tricks only go so far.
Now what they could (and should) potentially look into is making a spectacle of the devices' abilities when it comes to headphone usage. That's something that they can make their mark with without the necessity of altering their more "form meets function" design style as opposed to HTC's more "function over form" style.

HTC boomsound speakers blew on my m7, several times. The m8 sounded good, but it doesn't justify such a terribly long phone with a 5" screen. That bezel is worse than iPhone bezels.
It's ugly. If the trade off for better speakers equals that design, then no way.

Missed the OP's question and just took it as a chance to complain about Samsung.. (tft)
Seriously. What are these HTC fan/Samsung hater people even doing here???
TO the OP.
I haven't seen the specs anywhere yet.
Note 4 Exynos had the Wolfson DAC. We can hope the premium S6 will get the same attention.
Most don't have a good enough system hooked up to the device to even notice the on board differences so I'm not sure it really matters.
Those that do have a good system probably aren't using a phone, as is through the headphone jack are they?

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Thanks.
Massive difference in speaker from S5 to S6...

It has a WolfsonMicro WM1840 sound chip.

borimol said:
It has a WolfsonMicro WM1840 sound chip.
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Is that good?

meboy said:
Missed the OP's question and just took it as a chance to complain about Samsung.. (tft)
Seriously. What are these HTC fan/Samsung hater people even doing here???
TO the OP.
I haven't seen the specs anywhere yet.
Note 4 Exynos had the Wolfson DAC. We can hope the premium S6 will get the same attention.
Most don't have a good enough system hooked up to the device to even notice the on board differences so I'm not sure it really matters.
Those that do have a good system probably aren't using a phone, as is through the headphone jack are they?
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it's called opinions, and everyone is entitled to have one. i have owned 3 galaxies since the s2, so i am aware of how crappy sounding samsung speakers have always been. it's fact that sony, htc, and hell, even apple have better sounding phones. it has sh*t to do with being a htc or Sony fanboy..
the s6 finally has improvement in sound, but nothing to brag about when comparing to other phones on the market.

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Is that good?
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yeah but i think thats for the headphone jack only, the wolfson DAC is the best out of all the devices out there

Stock earbuds?

Originally when the S4 came out, the other 3 members in my family were looking to upgrade their phones. They ended up getting the stock android earbuds with those S4s. I got my hands on them and they were the best earbuds I've ever used. Clear, high-quality sound with solid bass and a high ability to be EQ'd to personal preference, which is what I do whenever I listen to music (and now it sounds like **** without EQ). They even lasted me about 5-6 months each set, which included me playing basketball and dunking/generally playing all-out. They were everything I ever wanted.
Recently I made a purchase on cellularoutfitter.com, in which I purchased two sets of Samsung SGH-T528G OEM headphones, which look exactly the same.
Well, they're ****. They sound...muted and unclear, with a lack of balanced mid-high sound to give clarity and a profound lack of bass.
At this point, I'm not sure what to do. I'm guessing I purchased the wrong earbuds, but I'm not sure why the model number would make such a drastic difference in sound quality in comparison to what we got before when we bought SGH-I337 phones.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.

You probably just got lucky the first time.
Or they reduced the quality of the earbuds to save money.
All I know is that, generally, people are not very fond of the stock earbuds that come with many devices.
I suggest you try them before buying anything.

The headset included with my s4 mini GT-i9195i bore the numbers:
EHS64AVFWE
GH59-11720A
RFTG6
xJownage said:
Originally when the S4 came out, the other 3 members in my family were looking to upgrade their phones. They ended up getting the stock android earbuds with those S4s. I got my hands on them and they were the best earbuds I've ever used. Clear, high-quality sound with solid bass and a high ability to be EQ'd to personal preference, which is what I do whenever I listen to music (and now it sounds like **** without EQ). They even lasted me about 5-6 months each set, which included me playing basketball and dunking/generally playing all-out. They were everything I ever wanted.
Recently I made a purchase on cellularoutfitter.com, in which I purchased two sets of Samsung SGH-T528G OEM headphones, which look exactly the same.
Well, they're ****. They sound...muted and unclear, with a lack of balanced mid-high sound to give clarity and a profound lack of bass.
At this point, I'm not sure what to do. I'm guessing I purchased the wrong earbuds, but I'm not sure why the model number would make such a drastic difference in sound quality in comparison to what we got before when we bought SGH-I337 phones.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
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I guess I can understand what you felt!!!
I also loved my Stock Earphones that came with my old S3!!
You can try the Philips SHE3590, they sound kinda similar to the stock ones and they are cheap!!!

I'd liked the s4 stock headset as well.
But before you decide for some new low budget earbuds read about
xiaomi Hybrid Piston 4.
Never heard better Earbuds in this price class.
Also try poweramp alpha
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/8810-poweramp-alpha-build-703704/
Or maybe your Phone got root Rights try viper4android
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Agree. I always found the stock Samsung earbuds that come with most of the newer phones to have awesome sound and quality. Never got why people bought new ear buds as soon as they got their phones.
Lost mine, so had to buy a pair of Sony earbuds that cost 30, but got a discount. These things are bad ass, but would definitely just rock the stock ones if I didn't lose them.
Also, pretty sick that power amp makes ear buds. Definitely gonna the xiaomi ear buds a try. Amazing reviews, almost no bad reviews.
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I rarely use stock earbuds, just because of preference. You can get an awesome set of earbuds from China for just a few pennies and I always feel less guilty if I trash them. If you want to go really cheap, check out the Rock Mula's. Well made, excellent sound quality. If you have a few more pounds, Xiaomi Piston's are probably the best earbuds you'll ever own for less than £20.

Petition to keep the jack on the futur S8/S8 Edge !

Hello all i will publish a petition to keep the jack on the futur Galaxy S8, i will publish the petition in 1 hour, i just have to know if someone have already hear a petition like this thanks !
And sorry for my English, nobody are perfect haha
Let's try to change the world guy's haha !
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-petition-to-keep-the-jack-on-the-future-s8-s8-edge

my friend too late for this if even they decided to remove it!!!
now most likely the phone will be out if 3-4 months max,design is already prepared and in manufacturing and resting phase.... they will not change and start a whole new design. development, testing for just a petition.... this IS Samsung after all
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Perfectdevil said:
my friend too late for this if even they decided to remove it!!!
now most likely the phone will be out if 3-4 months max,design is already prepared and in manufacturing and resting phase.... they will not change and start a whole new design. development, testing for just a petition.... this IS Samsung after all
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Even if we are more than 100 000 person ?

To late they start SD830 production this month

Shipoftheline said:
To late they start SD830 production this month
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I would be sad without haha
I have a Bose QC35, that exist a Jack 2,5mm to USB-C ?

There is always a convertor jack to use with old phones, we should welcome the new technology instead sticking with the old. It will take time to adapt though
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Hopefully the adaptor will come with the phone and not be some $50 accessory lol.

Hopefully they give a decent wireless headset with the phone.
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Sucks to ditch it but Type C is the way forward for better audio

Slem34 said:
I would be sad without haha
I have a Bose QC35, that exist a Jack 2,5mm to USB-C ?
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You have bluetooth with your QC35, so no problem The sound remains awesome with Bose bluetooth... It's perfect on my QC30 anyway
And I don't really care if they remove the jack on the S8, i'm tired of Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever)

For those who don't know, no 3.5 jack means Sam doesn't need to put a decent DAC (or sound card as a more familiar term) into the phone. What remained is only a poor DAC that is enough to drive internal speaker. There is nothing called forward movement. It's purely cost cutting. If phone makers need to push forward wireless tech for headphones, first they have to make the transmission better with higher bit rates and no more stuttering. This way, users decide themselves if moving forward worth it or not.
Also, if headphones manufacturers decided to make type c headphone instead of 3.5, it means that each headphones must come with their own DAC instead of having just one on the phone itself. This way you cannot,ever than before, expect cheap but good headphones due to DAC cost.
Since Apple decision to ditch out headphone jack. I think it's the stupidest idea ever. The bottom line of producing sound into your ears is always in analog. No one cannot make hearable sound in digital format. I don't get it why do so many people agree with such an illusional digital shift paradigm.

romeokk said:
For those who don't know, no 3.5 jack means Sam doesn't need to put a decent DAC (or sound card as a more familiar term) into the phone. What remained is only a poor DAC that is enough to drive internal speaker. There is nothing called forward movement. It's purely cost cutting. If phone makers need to push forward wireless tech for headphones, first they have to make the transmission better with higher bit rates and no more stuttering. This way, users decide themselves if moving forward worth it or not.
Also, if headphones manufacturers decided to make type c headphone instead of 3.5, it means that each headphones must come with their own DAC instead of having just one on the phone itself. This way you cannot,ever than before, expect cheap but good headphones due to DAC cost.
Since Apple decision to ditch out headphone jack. I think it's the stupidest idea ever. The bottom line of producing sound into your ears is always in analog. No one cannot make hearable sound in digital format. I don't get it why do so many people agree with such an illusional digital shift paradigm.
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Perfect answer ??

BigBen60 said:
You have bluetooth with your QC35, so no problem The sound remains awesome with Bose bluetooth... It's perfect on my QC30 anyway
And I don't really care if they remove the jack on the S8, i'm tired of Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever)
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You're right, but I'm not a fan of bluetooth, I always use jack because in bluetooth you have:
1. Less autonomy
2. It f * ck you brain well.
3. You can steal your helmet much easier.
It makes me laugh when I think of the guy with an iPhone 7 (DAS 1.38kg / W) with its headphones bluetooth. He nicely bites his brain ?

romeokk said:
For those who don't know, no 3.5 jack means Sam doesn't need to put a decent DAC (or sound card as a more familiar term) into the phone. What remained is only a poor DAC that is enough to drive internal speaker. There is nothing called forward movement. It's purely cost cutting. If phone makers need to push forward wireless tech for headphones, first they have to make the transmission better with higher bit rates and no more stuttering. This way, users decide themselves if moving forward worth it or not.
Also, if headphones manufacturers decided to make type c headphone instead of 3.5, it means that each headphones must come with their own DAC instead of having just one on the phone itself. This way you cannot,ever than before, expect cheap but good headphones due to DAC cost.
Since Apple decision to ditch out headphone jack. I think it's the stupidest idea ever. The bottom line of producing sound into your ears is always in analog. No one cannot make hearable sound in digital format. I don't get it why do so many people agree with such an illusional digital shift paradigm.
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And if the space for headphone jack can be used for a second speaker?
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