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[Q] WTF? Access to the notification tray while screen locked?

Who was the wise guy who thought that the notification tray didn't need to be locked with the rest of the screen?
After the ICS update, it seems that my notification tray is sometimes open when I pull the phone out of my pants' pocket. Since this isn't just a notification tray anymore and one can actually do sensitive actions over there, not to mention accidentally closing important notifications, I would say this is a very bad idea. I couldn't find any option to turn this "feature" off.

teomor said:
Who was the wise guy who thought that the notification tray didn't need to be locked with the rest of the screen?
After the ICS update, it seems that my notification tray is sometimes open when I pull the phone out of my pants' pocket. Since this isn't just a notification tray anymore and one can actually do sensitive actions over there, not to mention accidentally closing important notifications, I would say this is a very bad idea. I couldn't find any option to turn this "feature" off.
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Well you should not have upgrades to ICS then or done the proper research into what was in ICS cause that is part of the 4.0 Android OS now. Me personally I love it.

So, you are saying there is no way to turn this off? It seems very strange to not have an option for this..

teomor said:
So, you are saying there is no way to turn this off? It seems very strange to not have an option for this..
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If you enable a screen lock then it will disable that function. Otherwise, it's actually a nice feature to have IMO.

GROGG88 said:
If you enable a screen lock then it will disable that function. Otherwise, it's actually a nice feature to have IMO.
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+1 it is really nice, I can't go back to gb because of and I won't put pattern on for the same reason
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Great, a lockscreen that isn't locked
So you guys really never had any accidental stuff happen to you while your phone in the pants?

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Great, a lockscreen that isn't locked
So you guys really never had any accidental stuff happen to you while your phone in the pants?
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No, shockingly not
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Great, a lockscreen that isn't locked
So you guys really never had any accidental stuff happen to you while your phone in the pants?
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No, not once. It's in my pocket all day and I have a very active job...

OK, so I set up a pattern now and the issue is solved. But now I have 2 lockscreens instead of 1 :-( . Wasn't there supposed to be an option to unlock the screen straight to desktop (pattern in my case)?

teomor said:
OK, so I set up a pattern now and the issue is solved. But now I have 2 lockscreens instead of 1 :-( . Wasn't there supposed to be an option to unlock the screen straight to desktop (pattern in my case)?
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Nope. You don't have two lockscreens, you have a lockscreen and a security screen. It's performing normally.

I know there is nothing actually wrong with this, but it just makes the phone harder to use. I mean slower to make a quick phone call, or quickly open an IM app and reply.

usually..
usually you can disable it, if you have the development function on your htc settings for ics, usually there is a function in the lockscreen part where it asks you to keep taskbar on top or untouchable after lockscreen is on.. try to look on accessibility and security or else download 'rom toolbox' and there should be a function where it allows u to enable or disable this function

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usually you can disable it, if you have the development function on your htc settings for ics, usually there is a function in the lockscreen part where it asks you to keep taskbar on top or untouchable after lockscreen is on.. try to look on accessibility and security or else download 'rom toolbox' and there should be a function where it allows u to enable or disable this function
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Um... besides, you can't "do" anything with it unless you touch the screen. Are you touching the screen while the phone is in your pocket?
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I keep my phone with the screen facing my leg and when there's moisture in my pocket, like in the summer for instance, I'm pretty sure things are happening that aren't supposed to happen
Also, the power button is somehow positioned that sitting down in the car for example accidentally pushes on it.
You could argue that only tight pants cause this issue, but c'moon
I've had several occasions where I would take out the phone from my pocket and find some app being open and doing stuff...

teomor said:
I keep my phone with the screen facing my leg and when there's moisture in my pocket, like in the summer for instance, I'm pretty sure things are happening that aren't supposed to happen
Also, the power button is somehow positioned that sitting down in the car for example accidentally pushes on it.
You could argue that only tight pants cause this issue, but c'moon
I've had several occasions where I would take out the phone from my pocket and find some app being open and doing stuff...
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Buy an Incipio NGP case, which has a reinforced power button cover.
Never again will you have accidental power-button presses.
It's silly that you want to get rid of such a great feature. My phone always faces my leg in my pocket, and in the 10 months that I've owned my phone, I have NEVER pulled my phone out with the phone unlocked by my pocket.

Thinking more and more about it, it does seem to be a nice feature. I might give it a second chance, despite that only having it for 1 day and already found it open by mistake....

teomor said:
Thinking more and more about it, it does seem to be a nice feature. I might give it a second chance, despite that only having it for 1 day and already found it open by mistake....
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Try facing it the other way in your pants
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I've thought about that but the shape doesn't help at all... Also, the power button would be even more prone to accidental press.

teomor said:
I've thought about that but the shape doesn't help at all... Also, the power button would be even more prone to accidental press.
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Do you use a case?

[Q] Can't double tap to wake up my new watch. How do you live with this?

Hello all,
Just got the SmartWatch 1 for a good price. I'm enjoying the notifications and call screening a lot.
But I can't wake the watch.
Double tapping does not work.
Having the phone on all the time while it's moving will drain the battery in 3 seconds flat.
The one where you are supposed to move the watch horizontally and the display will turn on is a joke. It simply doesn't do a thing.
A friend got his too and we have the same issues.
Other than turning it on with the power button, is there a ay to "fix" the double tapping thing?
Any help will be appreciated!

Mine does the same thing intermittently. No rhyme or reason to it. Mine was a door prize at XDA Devcon

distortion said:
Mine does the same thing intermittently. No rhyme or reason to it. Mine was a door prize at XDA Devcon
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It's strange. Yep, it'll sometimes wake up and most of the time it won't. But I have better luck tapping the strap, as someone suggested. So. Weird!
Still. This looks to me like one of the greatest stupid things ever. I mean, it doesn't do much - but in a single day, I now wonder why nobody invented it before. It rocks!

This thing is an error.

Double tap to wake function only works if the watch goes to sleep when its on the default clock screen.
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I have used the power button double tap to wake up the watch and it still displays the last app that was showing.
I've done this with a few apps now.

Update or bad screen?

Hey people
Got my smart watch about 4 days ago and it was all good until tonight and now for some reason i can't see the clock anymore unless i press the power button :S i could have sworn it had a low light mode and the clock was visable ok but since tonight i can't see the time unless there's a light pointing straight at the watch. I hooked it upto the service centre thing and updated it through that but hasn't helped.
am I going mad here and just seeing things? :S
EDIT: i also noticed when i turn it off i get some weird colours appearing in the clockface some pinks/purples. i don't understand it was ok a couple of hours ago and it's been on my wrist the whole time :S

Did you try to reset the watch? Also our you have any custom clocks installed, remove them. As after reset, Sony smartwatch app will reinstall them on the watch, once the watch and the phone are connected.
On your watch, go to settings and tap reset watch.
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tried that chap loads of times and nothing tried re-installing firmware and nothing swell. no custom watchfaces installed either just the stock ones

Roxas598 said:
Hey people
Got my smart watch about 4 days ago and it was all good until tonight and now for some reason i can't see the clock anymore unless i press the power button :S i could have sworn it had a low light mode and the clock was visable ok but since tonight i can't see the time unless there's a light pointing straight at the watch. I hooked it upto the service centre thing and updated it through that but hasn't helped.
am I going mad here and just seeing things? :S
EDIT: i also noticed when i turn it off i get some weird colours appearing in the clockface some pinks/purples. i don't understand it was ok a couple of hours ago and it's been on my wrist the whole time :S
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Just to make it clear, you are not talking about the low power mode right? No backlight, but can be still seen by people in ambient light??? Maybe you should take a picture of the watch so we can clearly see what is going on.

At night my sw2 turns of the screen completely. But when I MOVE the watch it turns on the clock on the display. I think it has an accelerometer that turns off the screen when no movement is detected.
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severoprisan said:
At night my sw2 turns of the screen completely. But when I MOVE the watch it turns on the clock on the display. I think it has an accelerometer that turns off the screen when no movement is detected.
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The same for me. I think that isn't a bug, but accelerometer
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It is normal.
It is a feature to save battery when it isn't worn.

I am more curious as to the "watch (display) turns on from moving it". Does the SW2 have an accelerometer? My watch display doesn't kick on when I move it. Or was this a feature of the earlier SmartWatches?

Nomad1600 said:
I am more curious as to the "watch (display) turns on from moving it". Does the SW2 have an accelerometer? My watch display doesn't kick on when I move it. Or was this a feature of the earlier SmartWatches?
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I believe SW2 does have an accelerometer. Put your watch on a table, leave it untouched for while, screen completely turns off. Not even the low power watch mode is displayed. But once you move it, low power watch comes back on (without the backlight). I observed it many times when it was charging and when left at the bed side table.
But it is not utilized for backlight function. That is a missing feature people are asking for. But I don't really need it. Just like a regular watch, I press a button to turn the light on when I can't see it in the dark.
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thearif said:
I believe SW2 does have an accelerometer. Put your watch on a table, leave it untouched for while, screen completely turns off. Not even the low power watch mode is displayed. But once you move it, low power watch comes back on (without the backlight). I observed it many times when it was charging and when left at the bed side table.
But it is not utilized for backlight function. That is a missing feature people are asking for. But I don't really need it. Just like a regular watch, I press a button to turn the light on when I can't see it in the dark.
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Wow... I didn't even notice the screen going completely black after sitting for a while. I am still on watch honeymoon, and either the watch is on my wrist or turned off and on the dresser. But sure enough, it does go into a deeper "sleep" mode and wakes up when I pick it up. Nice!
I do see that having it wake to the backlit mode would be nice but it would seem to kill the battery since when worn it would be in more constant movement. Unless they tuned the accelerometer to only wake when a more significant motion happens.

Nomad1600 said:
Wow... I didn't even notice the screen going completely black after sitting for a while. I am still on watch honeymoon, and either the watch is on my wrist or turned off and on the dresser. But sure enough, it does go into a deeper "sleep" mode and wakes up when I pick it up. Nice!
I do see that having it wake to the backlit mode would be nice but it would seem to kill the battery since when worn it would be in more constant movement. Unless they tuned the accelerometer to only wake when a more significant motion happens.
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Yeah the previous iteration of smartwatch from Sony did not have always on watchface and it was a necessity. And to see the time you had to turn on the display. One way was to double tap on the watch screen to wake it up. Another way was to light up the screen by lifting your arm and turning the watch towards you. But the second way never really worked reliably.
But I don't think SW2 needs that. As we already have always on watch with great readability even in places where there little light.
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thearif said:
Just to make it clear, you are not talking about the low power mode right? No backlight, but can be still seen by people in ambient light??? Maybe you should take a picture of the watch so we can clearly see what is going on.
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Sorry for the delay! yeah seems my watch didn't have the low power mode and now it does it's just near impossible to see unless i have some light directly on the screen

Roxas598 said:
Sorry for the delay! basically sitting here in the dark i can't see the time on the display at all but i could when i first got it now I need to actually press the button to see the time :S dunno if it's just me thinking i could or not is the problem lol
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So there is nothing on the screen not even the low power mode on the watch. I don't know what to tell you boss as you have already done a reset. Maybe one thing to check is to use SUS to reflash the firmware using your pc, if you haven't done it already.
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thearif said:
So there is nothing on the screen not even the low power mode on the watch. I don't know what to tell you boss as you have already done a reset. Maybe one thing to check is to use SUS to reflash the firmware using your pc, if you haven't done it already.
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sorry chap i updated my post there is something on the screen but it's impossible to see without some sort of light source on it makes it kinda annoying to use could have sworn it wasn't when i first got it but figured i'd ask anyway!

Roxas598 said:
sorry chap i updated my post there is something on the screen but it's impossible to see without some sort of light source on it makes it kinda annoying to use could have sworn it wasn't when i first got it but figured i'd ask anyway!
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No problem. I never considered the low power hard to see. But I guess most of the time I am in well lit places
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Gear S2 classic - screen turns off even if it is on the (always on mode)

Hi,
I just bought my Gear S2 classic yesterday.
I am using the (always on mode) and disabled the wake up gesture.
Even though I am using the (always on mode), some times the screen switchs off and I need to press on any button to wake it up.
Any idea on this? is it a fault?
Thanks,

So.. anyone faced this?
Thanks,

I've had this too. Tried everything to figure out why the clock didn't go in to ambient mode. Gave up trying in the end
Then, it sorted itself out the other day after I had rearranged the order of the apps on the app wheel. I'm sure this was just a coincidence though.

Mubble said:
I've had this too. Tried everything to figure out why the clock didn't go in to ambient mode. Gave up trying in the end
Then, it sorted itself out the other day after I had rearranged the order of the apps on the app wheel. I'm sure this was just a coincidence though.
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Thanks alot... I have just did factory reset to the watch... and let's see... i was using a custom face from Mr. time.. now i am using one of the default faces.
let's see

Yes I was, and still am, using a Mr Time watch face. Think it might be messing up the ambient mode for all watch faces. Although the standard watch faces were doing the same.

Mubble said:
Yes I was, and still am, using a Mr Time watch face. Think it might be messing up the ambient mode for all watch faces. Although the standard watch faces were doing the same.
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after factory reset and using original watch face it happened again./.. just suddenly the ambient mode goes away and the screen turns to black.. had to move the bezel for the watch to wake up

This appears to be a common problem and based on another thread, it doesn't appear to be fixed in the last firmware release to Korea

ColMustard said:
This appears to be a common problem and based on another thread, it doesn't appear to be fixed in the last firmware release to Korea
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thanks alot... can you share the link of the other thread?

Is this only happening with Mr time watchfaces or with other watchfaces too?

sefrcoko said:
Is this only happening with Mr time watchfaces or with other watchfaces too?
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it happens with other watchfaces as well.
my settings:
- always on option is selected (on).
- wake up gesture is not selected (off).
problem: some times the watch hands turns off (like if the "always on" option is not selected.
it works fine for some time and then suddenly i look at the watch.. to find the screen black.
actions taken: using the original watchface, uninstalling Mr. time watchface... factory reset.... non of them helped.
Thanks,

a_k_gano said:
thanks alot... can you share the link of the other thread?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/gea...rmware-update-november-20-2015-t3252977/page3

a_k_gano said:
Hi,
I just bought my Gear S2 classic yesterday.
I am using the (always on mode) and disabled the wake up gesture.
Even though I am using the (always on mode), some times the screen switchs off and I need to press on any button to wake it up.
Any idea on this? is it a fault?
Thanks,
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I thought I was having the same problem, but then put the watch on my wrist and all of a sudden it went into ambient mode. With wake up gesture on, the screen goes to full mode when I glance at the watch. But if I remove the watch from my wrist and put it on the table, the screen goes off completely.
So I guess it detects when watch is on your wrist and acts accordingly.
Hope that helps.

zoltar99 said:
I thought I was having the same problem, but then put the watch on my wrist and all of a sudden it went into ambient mode. With wake up gesture on, the screen goes to full mode when I glance at the watch. But if I remove the watch from my wrist and put it on the table, the screen goes off completely.
So I guess it detects when watch is on your wrist and acts accordingly.
Hope that helps.
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What you are saying is absolutely right regarding the watch screen turning off when you take it off your wrist for power saving.
but I think what we are talking about is a sort of bug... (when you have always on-on and wake up gesture-off, and the watch will randomly blank the screen while you are wearing it ...) like what is explained in the previous link (another thread).
Thanks alot,

found another thread for same topic as well... looks like a general problem
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2/609013-gear-s2-always.html

found another thread for same topic as well... looks like a general problem
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2/609013-gear-s2-always.html

a_k_gano said:
found another thread for same topic as well... looks like a general problem
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-gear-s2/609013-gear-s2-always.html
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one more mentioned the problem
http://developer.samsung.com/forum/...boardName=SDK&messageId=285755&startId=zzzzz~

a_k_gano said:
What you are saying is absolutely right regarding the watch screen turning off when you take it off your wrist for power saving.
but I think what we are talking about is a sort of bug... (when you have always on-on and wake up gesture-off, and the watch will randomly blank the screen while you are wearing it ...) like what is explained in the previous link (another thread).
Thanks alot,
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Let's hope this is a software issue and Samsung might be able to fix it with a patch very soon.

Are you using the standard strap? I got really frustrated after I put the watch on a perlon band because the ambient mode suddenly wasn't working, and then I realized the strap was covering the heart rate sensor, which is how the watch knows whether or not it's on a wrist. I cut a hole in the strap (and heat-sealed the edges) and back to ambient mode.

tardis_42 said:
Are you using the standard strap? I got really frustrated after I put the watch on a perlon band because the ambient mode suddenly wasn't working, and then I realized the strap was covering the heart rate sensor, which is how the watch knows whether or not it's on a wrist. I cut a hole in the strap (and heat-sealed the edges) and back to ambient mode.
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Hmm.. I am using the standard strap.. but like to make it lose.. do you think it should be tight on hand ? .. and are you sure it is the heart rate sensor is the one that monitors? or it is by movement..
I got the latest firmware yesterday (that was in Korea few days ago).. and the same problem happened again... so i thought it is a bug and not yet fixed...
i will try to make the watch sealed on my hand and will see.. thanks for the advise... will let you know the result

Even after tightening the strap, the display goes black after a while. So annoying... I cant believe Samsung couldn't get something so simple as always on ambient mode correctly. Their software shortcomings are increasingly becoming irritating.
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problems with always-on feature

Guys, I can't, for the life of me, get the always-on screen feature to work. I've tried with the built-in watchfaces, and even made my own and tried that. No matter what, the screen turns off after about 5 seconds (regardless of what the timeout option is set to) and the AOD does not come on.
What settings do I need to make this work? I am connected to an iPhone via the leaked beta app. Everything works pretty well except for the AOD.

AOD only works when the watch is being worn.

chiefsalami said:
Guys, I can't, for the life of me, get the always-on screen feature to work. I've tried with the built-in watchfaces, and even made my own and tried that. No matter what, the screen turns off after about 5 seconds (regardless of what the timeout option is set to) and the AOD does not come on.
What settings do I need to make this work? I am connected to an iPhone via the leaked beta app. Everything works pretty well except for the AOD.
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Go into settings under display you will see the "always on" option, check that off.

klau1 said:
AOD only works when the watch is being worn.
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I am wearing the watch.
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Go into settings under display you will see the "always on" option, check that off.
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Did this.

My AOD stopped working and a watch reboot fixed it?

Go in Settings...Style....click Watch always on.

odyseus said:
My AOD stopped working and a watch reboot fixed it?
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Mine has never worked, even with the stock watchfaces, and even after a fresh reset and re-setup. I don't get it.

chiefsalami said:
Mine has never worked, even with the stock watchfaces, and even after a fresh reset and re-setup. I don't get it.
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Did you turn the Always On Feature on in the Styles menu?

Sword Fish said:
Did you turn the Always On Feature on in the Styles menu?
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Of course. I've said I have turned it on.

chiefsalami said:
Of course. I've said I have turned it on.
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Sorry, just trying to help. You actually said you went into Display and turned it on. The actually way to turn it on is in the Styles menu, not Display.

I can't get it to work either, strange. Hopefully they update it soon to fix this bug. Seems to be the only thing not working no matter how much I mess with the songs or reset it.

JuliousJive said:
I can't get it to work either, strange. Hopefully they update it soon to fix this bug. Seems to be the only thing not working no matter how much I mess with the songs or reset it.
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I bet a hard reset would fix it.

AOD is working perfectly on my Gear S3 Classic paired to a GS7E. Can you test out AOD after linking to an Android phone? Maybe it's an iPhone thing.
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OK, I figured it out. I had a NATO strap on it, and it was covering the HR sensor. Switched back to a traditional strap and AOD started working right away. Don't know why that had anything to do with it, but it did.

chiefsalami said:
OK, I figured it out. I had a NATO strap on it, and it was covering the HR sensor. Switched back to a traditional strap and AOD started working right away. Don't know why that had anything to do with it, but it did.
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Probably due to the fact that AOD doesn't need to be on if you're not wearing it, or I guess if it thinks you're not wearing it. That's kind of a neat feature and a good find, who would have thought about that?

I own a Gear S3 classic with the latest firmware and i run the S3 in standalone mode without a mobile phone connected. The S3 has the original strap and ADO is enabled.
The ADO works only, when i wear the clock. The display goes off after approx. 5s as soon as i remove the clock from my arm.

manhart said:
I own a Gear S3 classic with the latest firmware and i run the S3 in standalone mode without a mobile phone connected. The S3 has the original strap and ADO is enabled.
The ADO works only, when i wear the clock. The display goes off after approx. 5s as soon as i remove the clock from my arm.
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That's normal. It knows you aren't wearing it, so it turns AOD off. It detects heart rate to know if it's being worn or not.