Xperia xz - Nougat update review - Sony Xperia XZ Questions & Answers

Please guys those who have updated the phone... Share some of your thoughts about the new update... Increase the excitement for rest of us who is waiting for it

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Please guys those who have updated the phone... Share some of your thoughts about the new update... Increase the excitement for rest of us who is waiting for it
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Here are my initial thoughts:
1) The update is very much smoother than the previous MM versions, very noticeable in the multitasking pane
2) The Nougat notifications looks bomb on the Xperia skin, they are much faster to interact with, quick reply works great & notification handling is quite improved.
3) The Quick settings pane are not exactly like the Pixel one, they take a little more space on the screen (just a little), the drop down arrow on the un-collapsed QS takes 1 QS Space on the right, would have preferred it to be a little small so that they could squeeze another QS Tile there.
4) The messaging app has some new neat features, nothing much drastic though (who uses normal messages these days anyways)
5) Split Screen works great & is a welcoming change
6) Battery life - Can't comment, needs a little more time to judge, but the track record for my XZ is already great, so not expecting big changes in battery life.
7) Now, the Camera, it's supposed to bring certain new Manual control options, but I didn't had a chance to dig into em. Will let you know when I start playing around the camera myself
Overall, the device runs faster, smoother & feels a little light, not too much of stuff going on, just exactly what you need & where you need em.
It is a great update & a very quick update too.

There is a thread in the general section already dedicated to this update.
Please continue the discussion here
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[Request] Various tweaks

Good evening,
I've been running stock ROM pretty much since day 1 with Xposed+GB to get all the eye-candy features, however i recently noticed that this framework causes my overall system to be "unstable" (random "flashes" on status bars & alike) and my battery drains very much faster with it activated. Add it to the fact i cannot use ART and - well - i'm not too keen to use it any further.
What can i do then to have stock rom's stability with some added features?
Browsing this section i found various flashable mods (like center clock and custom battery icon) and these would be the perfect deal for me, so i was wondering if there was anything for the following points, which are the only things i'm really missing from Xposed:
-quick unlock. Having to press enter after the PIN really annoys me.
-immersive mode to hide navigation bar
-PIE control.
That's pretty much it, these are the only features i'm really after but can't seem to find anything around, I don't know if i just overlooked them or i'm just blind (why not abit crazy). But here is where you come in!
TLDR: help.
Thanks
Regards,
Daniel
Daniel 07 said:
Good evening,
I've been running stock ROM pretty much since day 1 with Xposed+GB to get all the eye-candy features, however i recently noticed that this framework causes my overall system to be "unstable" (random "flashes" on status bars & alike) and my battery drains very much faster with it activated. Add it to the fact i cannot use ART and - well - i'm not too keen to use it any further.
What can i do then to have stock rom's stability with some added features?
Browsing this section i found various flashable mods (like center clock and custom battery icon) and these would be the perfect deal for me, so i was wondering if there was anything for the following points, which are the only things i'm really missing from Xposed:
-quick unlock. Having to press enter after the PIN really annoys me.
-immersive mode to hide navigation bar
-PIE control.
That's pretty much it, these are the only features i'm really after but can't seem to find anything around, I don't know if i just overlooked them or i'm just blind (why not abit crazy). But here is where you come in!
TLDR: help.
Thanks
Regards,
Daniel
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I'd recommend Minimus, it has all the necessary features and well, it's very minimal lol stable and is able to run ART, or "stock with goodies" is another good one also and just came out about 2 days ago i think
Managed to get rid of navbar by using a buil.prop command and using LMT launcher as PIE right now, absolutely flawless.
Still missing the quick unlock though, if anyone knows a mod/app or what else which achieves it don't hesitate to post it here!

[Q] App/Panel ideas for the Edge screen?

I'm not a developer or programmer (although I could learn how to, but by the time I figured out how to create a program, the Note Edge 3 would be released), but being an end user of the phone and with first hand experience, I can always comes up with ideas that may improve the functionality and accessibility of the device. Below are some of the ideas on different panels/apps that I think can greatly improve the functionality of the Edge screen.
Music Control - This definitely needs to happen. It would be amazing to be able to control your music app (play, pause, stop, fast forward, rewind, etc.) while using your phone for other tasks without having to open up the music app.
Multi-Window Functions - Why can't we use the edge screen as the multi-windows toolbar? Instead of having to hold the back button for the toolbar to appear, we can just drag the apps from the Edge screen and start multi-windows.
Task List - Tasks on the Edge screen where we can tap it to mark it as complete and a new task will show up. This could also be a shopping list and will most definitely be useful for Black Friday.
Bubble Level - There's a ruler...why can't there be a bubble level too?
Battery Bar - I know there's a battery bar at the top of the screen, but it would be nice to have a larger battery bar that's actually color coded based on the percentage of life left. And it could also displays percentage of battery life as well as remaining usage time.
Fantasy Score Updates - I play Fantasy Football and Basketball and would love to see updates on my Fantasy scores without having to open up the Fantasy apps.
What do you think of some of the ideas? Do you have any ideas you would like to share? Hopefully a developer/programmer will read this thread and create some of the highly requested/useful panels/apps for the Edge screen.
There is a thread with a list going. My company will be building a suite of apps that accomplishes many of these items.
jribbe101 said:
There is a thread with a list going. My company will be building a suite of apps that accomplishes many of these items.
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Do you have a link to the thread by any chance? And what's the name of your company so that I may follow the progress of the suite? Thank you in advance.
When I first saw the edge, the first thing I thought of was my fantasy team lol. Fantasy points would be amazing. Yahoo already has a sports ticker, I'm unsure if Yahoo has any api that will allow other apps to pull points, but that would be so amazing.
I like the idea of a bubble level too. Seems like a no-brainer now that you mentioned it.
I'd like to see web browsers take advantage of the edge and place navigation buttons there so you wont have to hit menu->forward or menu->reload or menu->load desktop site anymore.
I'm also interested in being linked to that other thread with edge app ideas as well, please
ok dudes, let me get some of this work off my plate tonight and tomorrow, I'll probably make an official post or something for this. I responded to a few people in different threads so I went quickly and copied them here to give you guys something to ponder on, and add suggestions. This is a aggregation of things requested.
Ultimately the goal is to make apps that make it productive for business, and then make a few extra general apps. I was thinking a suite of 4-6 depending on the complexity to build.... which given how I design, the apps are usually complex to build. But with the limited space and functions of what we are making, these may not be to bad on time.
Some of these apps may exist, but I won't have my phone til Monday to see what comes preloaded. If I feel there is a lack of functionality, like in the messaging widget I'll build a better mousetrap.
WIDGETS
1. A rss feed type panel where user could add their own feeds.
2. A To Do list (integrates with outlook... so it can pull my data from there)
3. Messaging alert and reader. -- (so you can switch between sms/email/etc and use your finger to swipe left/right like a ticker to read the messages.. and maybe swipe up and down to cycle messages... still in thought)
4. Level tool
5. Music controls while using the phone
6. Twitter timeline
7. A converter tool.
8. Ir favorite channel edge panel
9. swipe or knock to turn screen on
feel free to add on!
Thanks for the reply.
So the Edge has an IR Blaster? If that's the case, I'd go further than just a favorite channels bar and add Volume up/down/mute as well as power too.
seeking said:
So the Edge has an IR Blaster?
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No idea... its something another user asked for.
seeking said:
So the Edge has an IR Blaster?
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Yes, both the Note 4 and Note Edge come with the IR Blaster. It has been confirmed by many Tech and phones sites.
seeking said:
When I first saw the edge, the first thing I thought of was my fantasy team lol. Fantasy points would be amazing. Yahoo already has a sports ticker, I'm unsure if Yahoo has any api that will allow other apps to pull points, but that would be so amazing.
I'd like to see web browsers take advantage of the edge and place navigation buttons there so you wont have to hit menu->forward or menu->reload or menu->load desktop site anymore.
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You and me both! The first time I saw it presented at CES 2013, I said to myself that it would be neat to see Fantasy updates on that side of the screen while at the bar or pub. lol.
And yes, I would love to have all the browsers navigation bar on Edge, it would make web browsing so much better and more efficient.
@jribbe101
Thanks for listening to the community feedback on creating apps for the Edge, I greatly appreciate it and I'm sure I'm not the only one! I look forward to supporting your company in the near future and am excited to experience your apps firsthand.
no problemo. Speaking of a fantasy widget... I am currently working on something that would probably blow y'alls minds, lol. I'm designing the UI now, and will have a running beta for March Madness and TNT (cable channel). So maybe I will integrate it with the edge... A small easter egg for our "limited" community
jribbe101 said:
no problemo. Speaking of a fantasy widget... I am currently working on something that would probably blow y'alls minds, lol. I'm designing the UI now, and will have a running beta for March Madness and TNT (cable channel). So maybe I will integrate it with the edge... A small easter egg for our "limited" community
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That would be fantastic! I look forward to seeing it in action, hopefully soon!
jribbe101 said:
ok dudes, let me get some of this work off my plate tonight and tomorrow, I'll probably make an official post or something for this. I responded to a few people in different threads so I went quickly and copied them here to give you guys something to ponder on, and add suggestions. This is a aggregation of things requested.
Ultimately the goal is to make apps that make it productive for business, and then make a few extra general apps. I was thinking a suite of 4-6 depending on the complexity to build.... which given how I design, the apps are usually complex to build. But with the limited space and functions of what we are making, these may not be to bad on time.
Some of these apps may exist, but I won't have my phone til Monday to see what comes preloaded. If I feel there is a lack of functionality, like in the messaging widget I'll build a better mousetrap.
WIDGETS
1. A rss feed type panel where user could add their own feeds.
2. A To Do list (integrates with outlook... so it can pull my data from there)
3. Messaging alert and reader. -- (so you can switch between sms/email/etc and use your finger to swipe left/right like a ticker to read the messages.. and maybe swipe up and down to cycle messages... still in thought)
4. Level tool
5. Music controls while using the phone
6. Twitter timeline
7. A converter tool.
8. Ir favorite channel edge panel
9. swipe or knock to turn screen on
feel free to add on!
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Hi jribbe101,
Its great to see you're giving user suggestions serious consideration. Can't wait see some of these ideas come alive. These apps potentially makes the edge seriously useful.
Good luck!
invisiblesense said:
Hi jribbe101,
Its great to see you're giving user suggestions serious consideration. Can't wait see some of these ideas come alive. These apps potentially makes the edge seriously useful.
Good luck!
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I agree, all these reviews talking about it being a gimmick.. I can actually see some good use for that screen in my daily business scenarios that would make small things more efficient. So, maybe we can make them eat those words @[email protected]!
Which forum should I post my thread on? General or Q&A? I'm going to start the new thread with this username and want to make sure it's under the right area. It will be a starter thread to aggregate ideas to pick which apps should be made.
Yes it has an IR blaster and comes with Smart Remote app (the same thing that was on the note 3 just renamed and themed a bit)
I was the one asking for frav Ch. IR. I think it would be cool to just swap over and tap the top 5 ch you watch.
There could also be one for vol up and down or even channel.
For those that arent use to the power button on top. You can get a screen off/power off app from the market and short cut it to the edge.
So far there isnt much i can think of for apps for the edge. Most of the stuff i can think of would have to be updated via the main app.
i.e.
facebook status scrolling,
ebay ending soon count down
TV guide reminders
I would love to be able to put any app that I have in the drawer to the edge screen instead of just the basic ones. Then you can put any of your favorite apps or most used apps in edge screen for easy access, or more sports ticker options for sports scores, yahoos one basic doesnt have any NCCA college football options.
Probably not the right thread but it's Q&A so I thought I would give it a shot , problem is I can't get the side panel to turn on without turning on the whole screen , I've read and read , your supposed to just activate it by running your finger or thumb up and down the side panel , but no matter what I do I can't get it to work without turning on the whole screen , am I missing something , I couldn't even get the night clock to work as it is supposed to , now to be fair I haven't had the phone for even 24 hrs yet , but have set everything up and messed around with it for a few hrs ...? Stumped ....any help or suggestion's would be greatly appreciated , I'm beginning to think I got a lemon , Thank's in advance ....
Philly Jim said:
Probably not the right thread but it's Q&A so I thought I would give it a shot , problem is I can't get the side panel to turn on without turning on the whole screen , I've read and read , your supposed to just activate it by running your finger or thumb up and down the side panel , but no matter what I do I can't get it to work without turning on the whole screen , am I missing something , I couldn't even get the night clock to work as it is supposed to , now to be fair I haven't had the phone for even 24 hrs yet , but have set everything up and messed around with it for a few hrs ...? Stumped ....any help or suggestion's would be greatly appreciated , I'm beginning to think I got a lemon , Thank's in advance ....
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I don't have a Note Edge yet for reference, but I recall reading somewhere that you can "wake" the Edge panel by swiping your finger right and then left on it. Then once you wake it, you can use your thumb to swipe up and down to look at the different panels.
I do not believe that the edge panel turns on with the main screen still off.
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I do not believe that the edge panel turns on with the main screen still off.
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Yes, it does. With the screen off, swipe back and forth on the sharpest part of the curve. That's the most sensitive part of the edge display. That will turn on the clock/notifications/weather (wait a bit, and it'll start scrolling to show your notifications). To access your panels, slide left or right on the edge as you would when the screen is on. once again the sharpest part of the curve is most sensitive.
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Yes, it does. With the screen off, swipe back and forth on the sharpest part of the curve. That's the most sensitive part of the edge display. That will turn on the clock/notifications/weather (wait a bit, and it'll start scrolling to show your notifications). To access your panels, slide left or right on the edge as you would when the screen is on. once again the sharpest part of the curve is most sensitive.
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I can confirmed that this works. Just put your thumb on the edge screen with your thumb covering the whole side of the edge, and slide/drag it up and down.
working on the EDGE ALERT for messages...

[Tasker Plugin, Dev] Material Design Tasker Plugin receives massive update to version

Hello everyone! I just sent an update to Material Design Plugin which is probably the biggest update I have ever made for one of my apps before! There is a lot of things I have done so let's just get right into it!
New Action! Content activity! With Content Activity you can do some amazing things! With it you can give a title, text, and an image. Then you have optional attributes like moving it, swipe to delete, click to select, etc. This is perfect for media consumption and things like that. You could create your own Google+ for example!
There is now a search option for List Activity! This is an extremely powerful tool as it adds a whole new level of options for the list activity. Now you can take tasker data you want to be searched, and put it in a list activity just to search through!
You can now set image files via a path! This one is great for people who were having issues with the local image picker or anything like that. Anywhere you can put the icon name, just put the path and it will work like a dream. (Image showing will be made far more efficient in later releases)
I completely remastered the navigation drawer! Now everything is far more efficient! I also added support for a real size drawer header! Now, paired with the background image, this can be like an actual navigation drawer header! And don't worry if you prefer the way it was before, an update is coming to allow a customizable size.
Alright! I know that it was a rough time switching over to the new theme and to the new drawables, but I finally got the last bit of crashes kinked out for y'all, should be smooth sailing now!
Google also released a fix for a lot of the issues in the support package, like switches text not changing color, etc, so that should be smooth sailing now as well.
I also synced a lot of the apps actions all together so now there is a lot more efficiency and reduced apk size, and there is more to come!
I fixed the tutorial button for kitkat users! I know this was a big complaint so I am happy to report that I finally fixed that one.
Alright guys! That is about it, there are probably some things I forgot to mention but there you go! Hope you enjoy the update and please let me know about any issues, suggestions, requests etc. that you might have!
If you want to check out more you should look at my website! http://www.nicknackdevelopment.com/home.html
You should also check out tasker week where this app was featured! http://www.xda-developers.com/tasker-week-theming-and-design-using-scripts-and-scenes/

Feature Requests - (I see you essential team)

Since you guys peruse here and reddit.
-Stay awake while reading/holding
The same way the sony xperia series detects the phone is upright and being held, delays the screen time out.
- Setting to adjust the bottom round corner overlays
There two overlays at the bottom of the screen. Would be great to add some setting stop adjust.
-Hide Navbar
Similar to the GS8 That give you granular control over when it's hidden.
-Auto Pin unlock
Again the on the xperia series, the check mark is removed, so once you put the correct pin the phone accepts and unlocks.
More to come....
So most of the things suggested above are actually pretty gimmicky, imo.
Only thing I miss coming from other phones is gesture support for things like camera and flashlight with screen off. Double tap power for camera works fine, but no way to get to flashlight without turning the screen on, pulling down quick toggles, and clicking flashlight. Maybe holding down the volume down button with screen off?
Moto has the best gestures, then oneplus, then everyone else. Unfortunately, there is hardware support required for these to work without killing the battery, so totally understand if we never get gestures like these.
Those are pretty lame requests.. Essential runs AOSP.
A request that are needed & needs addressing:
- manual mode for camera
- hdr auto toggles the flash on??
- release system images already
- beta program/Oreo
- timely security updates (just getting October?)
- fix touch issues and scrolling
- fp scanner causing lockups
Let's get the OS polished and working better before we add more features
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Those are pretty lame requests.. Essential runs AOSP.
A request that are needed & needs addressing:
- manual mode for camera
- hdr auto toggles the flash on??
- release system images already
- beta program/Oreo
- timely security updates (just getting October?)
- fix touch issues and scrolling
- fp scanner causing lockups
Let's get the OS polished and working better before we add more features
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I mean, those requests of yours are already what they're doing, and bug fixes. So like duh list.
As for essential running aosp. They do, and they are already adding stuff on top.
The elegant solution for the status bar is to run devices in full screen, then manually
bring back the nav bar and status bar. So options for that would just be additional to what they are doing.
The rounded corners. They are already overlaying black corners on top. So options for that would just be additional to what they are doing.
Double click power button for cam isn't aosp last I checked.
So hence "feature requests" not just another list asking for "do it faster". :good:
Fix the camera.
Show us you can do this and smash the naysayers. Please don't just throw in the towel and let companies like Razer come in and show you up.
I would like Oreo like everyone else, but keep the guns pointed at the cameras.
There's seriously no rush to race to Essential phone 2.
You have reduced the price and now have the stage yet again. (Not to mention a ton of dedicated customers waiting with faith and phone in hand. )
Seize the moment an knock it out of the park.
This is the perfect time for you to take gobs of consumers away from the Pixel line. Google is against the ropes with its own set of issues.
Now that your price is set where margins are thin, its time to prove your name. Fix the camera and move units like crazy to get it in as many hands as possible.
Essential Phone 2 will help when you user base confidently upgrades ans recommends your product.
I bought an Essential phone for tight finish. (Software & Hardware)
Oreo will clean up a lot of peoples wants.
Again though, make the hardware work to it full potential.
Essential, you put yourself in this position with Stock android promises coupled with exceedingly high end hardware.
If I wanted bells/whistles with headaches, I would have zero troubles finding and OEM for that.
I essentially want you to focus on the hardware and leverage what you have to a higher standard and level.
Fix the EIS
Bring the camera levels to LG G6 results since the parts are the same.
Fix the Camera Icon (The only one you created) - Its ridiculously amateur and sticks out like a sore thumb.
Keep up the AMA's
Stay focused and steady.
Don't just kick the can down the road.
Another point:
I feel you should point out and lean your American roots. Lots of consumers purchase phones from offshoot companies that are created outside of the USA. Subsequently, many of them have been busted by running data collecting and or malicious algorithms.
You will not have more attention than you do now. Get cracking on it and show us what your made of.
Show us you can do this!
I agree totally with Maven1975 this phone is an awesome piece of equipment, I think that the weak link is the stock camera app and the way it processes the photos taken (compression) I have been able to take some pretty good looking photos with the stock app, but both The GCam port and FV-5 take far better pics but why?
Over the past year I owned the G6 which took some really nice pics, I sold it to purchase the S8 which took some amazing pics but I just couldn't deal with the UI of either of those phones even with the themes and the S8 wasn't user friendly for myself because of how I hold a phone I need me some side bezels with how I hold phones. I ended up getting the U11 and I love HTC and the UI but the phone was "big" but it took the best pictures out of the three.
Then the Essential PH-1 came out with it's awesome form factor and amazing quality and design I figured hey it has the same image sensor as the G6 with newer hardware and dual camera setup I bought into the"Image Fusion" hype and figured the photos should be somewhere in between the G6 and U11
Fix the camera, give us a Pro/Manual Mode and Release the System Image
I love stock Android, so keep the updates quick and the owners of this high quality phone will be some of your best advertisement "bang for the buck"
Become part of the development community and make this a "flash happy" phone ..... I come from a time when the HTC Hero had so many options for flashing different roms and apps it was so pleasing make the Essential PH-1 an ICON like the Hero

How well do the notch notifications work?

I'm between buying this and the Mi 8 lite but this one has an amazing battery in comparison so I'm unsure about what to get. I saw there's a notifications mod on miui 10 but I don' know if it's enough... Or maybe there's a rom that implements this where it looks better? I was looking for some experience regarding this. Thanks in advance
the notification will change with upcoming updates I'm sure, i saw in the forums they adding badges in beta builds beside the notch, .. i was in your same position trying to choose between these 2 phones...but i leaned towards the note 6 in the end cause of the battery and the mi 8 lite doesnt have the infra remote nor 3.5mm audio jack.
Hi. If you're coming from an stock Android (AOSP) experience then you'll definitely be offended by certain behavior of notifications. A few things that almost made me go mad:
1) Can only swipe to dismiss a notification on the right.
2) Can't expand a heads up notification directly into the notification tray when it pops up.
3) Music apps notifications behave weirdly. There's this white underlay inside which the notification is nested and the player controls don't work sometimes (rare)
4) Notifications don't show up on the lockscreen for me. I've enabled them from the settings.
5) The status bar extends a fair bit below the notch area. It's nothing major but there's surely a good chunk of screen real estate that's wasted. The clock occupies all of the space to the left of the notch and app badges are not displayed.
6) Unexpanded notifications in the tray give me a headache sometimes due to lack of a divider line in between or padding or whatever that makes me discern from where one card ends and the other begins.
However after 2 weeks of use I got used to them. I switched from an OP3 so these little quirks enraged me at first. May be all of these will be fixed in future updates, one can only hope. It's a good phone overall and the battery life is phenomenal. Hope this clears things up for you. Cheers and Happy New year.
lalibm said:
Hi. If you're coming from an stock Android (AOSP) experience then you'll definitely be offended by certain behavior of notifications. A few things that almost made me go mad:
1) Can only swipe to dismiss a notification on the right.
2) Can't expand a heads up notification directly into the notification tray when it pops up.
3) Music apps notifications behave weirdly. There's this white underlay inside which the notification is nested and the player controls don't work sometimes (rare)
4) Notifications don't show up on the lockscreen for me. I've enabled them from the settings.
5) The status bar extends a fair bit below the notch area. It's nothing major but there's surely a good chunk of screen real estate that's wasted. The clock occupies all of the space to the left of the notch and app badges are not displayed.
6) Unexpanded notifications in the tray give me a headache sometimes due to lack of a divider line in between or padding or whatever that makes me discern from where one card ends and the other begins.
However after 2 weeks of use I got used to them. I switched from an OP3 so these little quirks enraged me at first. May be all of these will be fixed in future updates, one can only hope. It's a good phone overall and the battery life is phenomenal. Hope this clears things up for you. Cheers and Happy New year.
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Thanks a lot for the write-up! I can always install a new ROM that could fix these problems. But another issue I've seen is that the community on this phone is wayy smaller than the Redmi note 5's, I hope it will grow a bit to see new ROMs, mods and stuff to fix this. At least I'll get updates, compared to my Redmi Note 3 (mediatek) so it's better than nothing I guess haha. I'll get the RN6 and see what I can do then
Happy new year!!
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Thanks a lot for the write-up! I can always install a new ROM that could fix these problems. But another issue I've seen is that the community on this phone is wayy smaller than the Redmi note 5's, I hope it will grow a bit to see new ROMs, mods and stuff to fix this. At least I'll get updates, compared to my Redmi Note 3 (mediatek) so it's better than nothing I guess haha. I'll get the RN6 and see what I can do then
Happy new year!!
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Yeah you can and RN5 Pro has lots of support given that it's almost a year old. I'm sure once the kernel source is released we'll get plenty of custom ROM action too.

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