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You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Honor 9 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
selfies are great, adequate details plus descent dynamic range
Superb selfie quality. Got it to test and the photosmare outstanding.
My front camera is mediocre and i don't know why? Is it due to the B130 update? Look what a selfie look like, help me please this is ly first time using a honor device and i don't know if this is the real quality or my device has a problem, here 2 selfies one in daylight and the other indoor
venom007 said:
selfies are great, adequate details plus descent dynamic range
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Please can you post a selfie indoor and one in daylight so i can compere with mine , i think my front camera is really awful
Oh no! My instagram followers are going to know I bought a mid range phone..... Wish it had a 50megapixel selfie camera!
Sorry for the abuse... Turn off the portrait mode. Its the icon top centre when you switch to selfie mode. It over processes everything.
I also have to say that Selfie cam is pretty decent as long as I deactivate portrait modus and Bokeh effect. Beauty effect is ugly and Bokeh does not work seamless with background. Maybe there are some tricks but I guess it is only SW and will probably get optimized in further updates.
venom007 said:
selfies are great, adequate details plus descent dynamic range
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Docxsido said:
My front camera is mediocre and i don't know why? Is it due to the B130 update? Look what a selfie look like, help me please this is ly first time using a honor device and i don't know if this is the real quality or my device has a problem, here 2 selfies one in daylight and the other indoor
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zakiwashi said:
Oh no! My instagram followers are going to know I bought a mid range phone..... Wish it had a 50megapixel selfie camera!
Sorry for the abuse... Turn off the portrait mode. Its the icon top centre when you switch to selfie mode. It over processes everything.
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i turned off the portrait mode and the bokeh effect and still looks like a 2MP selfie even in daylight , i think it's a software problem
I know I am a relic but my first phone had a 0.3megapixel camera so its all good to me.
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Also, mine is from china, with the chinese rom removed and European rom installed. I haven't had the B130 update pushed to me yet. Think I will steer clear of it. After years of android phones, I have only found incremental updates to break features that were working just fine beforehand and in general, cause serious issues whilst fixing trivial ones.
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i turned off the portrait mode and the bokeh effect and still looks like a 2MP selfie even in daylight , i think it's a software problem
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I think you got a point here.
With indoor lighting the selfie quality is quite terrible. I rarely take selfie so that doesn't bother me much.
P10 has a 1.9 aperture front camera which should produce a bit better selfie. Honor 9 on the other hand has a 2.0 aperture lens which should explain why it struggled under low lighting conditions.
Excellent selfies quality....
hassanjavaid8181 said:
Excellent selfies quality....
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Can you post an indoor selfie please? I think my front camera has a problem
Docxsido said:
Can you post an indoor selfie please? I think my front camera has a problem
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what problem you having with your camera?
hassanjavaid8181 said:
what problem you having with your camera?
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Blunt pictures with few details even in daylight. I've tried everything and still the same results. Few people are reporting the same problem. So i want to compare it to other selfies to see. I don't know if it's software or hardware related
Honor 9
Just like the Huawei P10, the Honor 9 features a dual camera setup, which consists of a 20MP monochrome sensor and a 12MP RGB one, each of these behind its own 27mm-equiv. f/2.2 aperture lens. There is also a dual-tone LED flash.This is the same camera setup we saw on the Huawei P10 and Mate 9, minus the Leica branding. This means you won't be getting the proprietary Vivid and Smooth film modes. Manual monochrome mode is not available just like on previous Honors - it is reserved only for the P series, but this is a silver lining we are happy to live with.
While the 20MP and 12MP resolutions don't match, the engineers have come up with an ingenious solution of how to use them and the snappers work just fine in the hybrid modes.
When you're shooting color, the Honor 9 blends the footage from the monochrome camera with the one from the RGB camera with the goal being, you guessed it, to produce better images. The high-res 20MP monochrome camera records luminance data as reportedly, that's where most of the fine detail is, while the lower-res 12MP camera provides the color to go with the detail. That way you can opt for 20MP color photos, a big leap from the 12MP default resolution.
In addition to the Variable Aperture effects, the Honor 9 camera supports Portrait Mode, which combines the Variable Aperture bokeh affect with Beautification, and should offer some nice Portrait shots with bokeh effects. The selfie snapper has been upgraded with f/2.0 lens, and while there isn't a second sensor, Huawei has found a way to create bokeh here as well.
Finally, Huawei introduces Live Photos with this new iteration of the Huawei camera app - it's a short 3s video taken shortly before you've hit the shutter, and it plays when you tap and hold on the image - no 3D Touch required.
The camera interface takes a bit of getting used to, as we've previously noted. There are two panes with options that can be evoked from the left and the right edge of the viewfinder. The left one brings forward the mode selector, while the menu coming from the right edge is the settings menu. The two panes don't just slide out with a simple swipe; you need to practically pull them through half the screen for them to stick, which doesn't always happen on the first try, particularly in landscape.
@mobilepriceshop, please stop. You're just copy pasting.
Selfies is a great quality, and looked nice!
8MP (3264X2448) 4:3 Max Quality
The Honor 9 takes some really high quality selfies. Just as good as the Honor 10.
Greetings my dear Mi A1 brethren! Today I am the bearer of bad news for you guys. From unreleased source codes to headphone hissing. This problem is the final nail in Xiaomi's coffin for me. I will never ever buy another Xiaomi device again.
I have reason to believe that the "dual" camera setup on the Xiaomi is FAKE! Let me show you. Follow these steps:
1) Open up the camera app.
2) Cover ONE of the two camera lenses at the back with your finger.
2) Zoom in to 2x mode (or greater).
Did you notice something? THE CAMERA LENSES DO NOT SWITCH! The main point of the Mi A1's dual camera setup is that one lens is wide angle and the other is telephoto (as mentioned on their website). When you zoom in, the app should automatically switch cameras.
Another test is that the dual camera setup should provide a background blur (bokeh effect) on objects that are up close to the camera. Cover a lens with one of your fingers and you'll see that either the camera gets blocked by the finger or the blur effect still remains (regardless of the fact that TWO cameras are needed for a proper bokeh effect)!
Both these tests prove that one of the Xiaomi Mi A1 cameras is a dummy. Has Xiaomi lied to us again? Why would Google let them do this?
Or is it that I don't understand how dual cameras work? Someone please enlighten me. I feel I've wasted 250$ of my hard earned cash on a scam
EDIT: Nevermind! I just found out it does work. But only in manual mode or portrait mode. Strange that the app does not switch to telephoto mode automatically. Perhaps in a future update.
Have you tried manual mode
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Have you tried manual mode
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Yes, I did. I've edited the OP. I feel like a goof for not trying that first
No its real!
Try that in outdoor lighting conditions.
In natural lighting cover the zoom lens, and then hit the 2x zoom.
You will notice that the zoom lens is functional in good lighting conditions, not in bad light conditions.
Same with the portrait mode, thats why it is recommended to use 2x optical zoom and portrait mode in outdoor lighting conditions.
The camera decides if it should use digital zoom or telephoto lens depending on light conditions. Telephoto zoom only works with a lot of light(like portrait). If there is not enough light, digital zoom from wide angle lens is better. This even happens on iphone 7plus/8plus camera set up(if there is not enough light they just use digital zoom). However, I think that maybe it switches to wide angle digital zoom sometimes in good light conditions.
I can understand that you were concerned but please test things thoroughly before posting (or maybe Google it out). Actually the telephoto camera have a narrower aperture then the main camera. So it captures less light then the primary camera. When who cover the telephoto camera to see if it is working or not, then hit x2, it detects that there is low light (since you are covering the lens) & hence uses the primary camera. Okay, so this is how you should have tested. First go to a very will lit environment, then select 2x zoom, and then try covering the telephone camera. You will get the proper results. Hope this helps.
It's the same in Oneplus 5, for example!
Telephoto works properly only in good light situation
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Yes, I did. I've edited the OP. I feel like a goof for not trying that first
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should already have done that before starting a thread like this.
2017 dumbass award goes to you. smart alec.
erimin5 said:
should already have done that before starting a thread like this.
2017 dumbass award goes to you. smart alec.
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If you want to know before clicking a photo which lens is used for 2x zoom just look at the animation when you use the zoom button. If theirs an animation of zooming then it's digital zoom & if it is directly switching to 2x or 1x then it is actually switching between the lenses. And it won't change with a future update too as the OP hopes. Works the same way even on iPhones. It OK to have questions but you went too far calling it a scam, fake & never buying from Xiaomi again.
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No its real!
Try that in outdoor lighting conditions.
In natural lighting cover the zoom lens, and then hit the 2x zoom.
You will notice that the zoom lens is functional in good lighting conditions, not in bad light conditions.
Same with the portrait mode, thats why it is recommended to use 2x optical zoom and portrait mode in outdoor lighting conditions.
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But please help me, now my stock camera app there is no portrait and 2x mode , they're disappear after i've flash it to RR custom rom, but when i back to stock rom through miflash, the camera is still facing the same problems
guys,dial *#*#1597#*#* and switch to the second camera...click the photo,check the resolution.. isn't it 2592x1940 (5mp) ... it's strange because the secondary camera is of 20mp and I am getting 5mp.
Mine is 3456x4608
Edit: sorry, I did not switch to the second camera, how do I do that?
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Mine is 3456x4608
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switch to lens BACK(2). double tap to switch the camera.
Ok, did that and indeed it's 2592x1940
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Ok, did that and indeed it's 2592x1940
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okay... isn't the secondary camera of 20mp..why does it click photos in 5mp???oneplus ?
Yep the same. Pretty weird. But the image doesn't look like 5 MP though
Wow this is some major scoop! You're indeed right, also to support your findings, the OP6 brother, the OPPO R15, has the same primary 16MP IMX519 sensor and a 5MP secondary sensors only for depth informations.
This could be a camera-gate beginning for OP! It needs deeper investigation
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Wow this is some major scoop! You're indeed right, also to support your findings, the OP6 brother, the OPPO R15, has the same primary 16MP IMX519 sensor and a 5MP secondary sensors only for depth informations.
This could be a camera-gate beginning for OP! It needs deeper investigation
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that can't be a co-incidence. i am gonna post about this in oneplus forum. let everyone know about this.
For me the primary camera is at 15.9MP and the portrait camera is at 14.2MP.
Correction: The photos made with primary camera are at 15.9 and the portrait mode ones are at 14.2MP.
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For me the primary camera is at 15.9MP and the portrait camera is at 14.2MP.
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you mean portrait photos??the resolution is 15.9 mp for portrait photos too.
The portrait photo is also made with the primary camera, helped by the secondary camera.
If I cover the secondary camera I see a message on screen and bokeh effect is gone.
@aneesh12 Yes, I meant the photos.
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The portrait photo is also made with the primary camera, helped by the secondary camera.
If I cover the secondary camera I see a message on screen and bokeh effect is gone.
@aneesh12 Yes, I meant the photos.
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yeah... that's how all the process works. but you said the portrait photos are 14.2mp for you which is not the same for me...i am getting 15.9mp photos. i am sorry if i got you wrong again
Another thing, the pictures taken with the secondary camera capture so much more light when shooting in really (really) dark places. Try it and let me know.
I think maybe it's the same secondary sensor used in the OP5T, the Sony IMX 376k, which is a 20MP sensor that via software does a pixel interpolation to "create" bigger pixels and capture more light.
However it's a cheap move to use this sensor only for depth informations
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Another thing, the pictures taken with the secondary camera capture so much more light when shooting in really (really) dark places. Try it and let me know.
I think maybe it's the same secondary sensor used in the OP5T, the Sony IMX 376k, which is a 20MP sensor that via software does a pixel interpolation to "create" bigger pixels and capture more light.
However it's a cheap move to use this sensor only for depth informations
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I'll try the second camera on op5t nd will see the resolution.
guys, what's the use of second camera anyways??? I've covered the second lens,still the photos came out as same as when the lens wasn't covered.
@aneesh12
For the depth of field effect/bokeh, portrait photos.
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For the depth of field effect/bokeh, portrait photos.
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they could have gone for 5mp depth sensing camera then. why to waste 20mp for that. oneplus 5's camera was very well implemented. that optical zoom was actually useful and handy.
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guys, what's the use of second camera anyways??? I've covered the second lens,still the photos came out as same as when the lens wasn't covered.
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You have to double tap to change camera then you will see camera(2) instead of camera(0)
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You have to double tap to change camera then you will see camera(2) instead of camera(0)
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that is exactly what i said in the 3rd post. you didn't get what i said.
Could it be due to a software config, like using pixel binning to increase sensitivity in the dark?
Hi all i am posting this issue to know whether others are facing this or not. Switching to portrait mode zooms the image making it difficult to get portrait from normal distance. Faced it with mix 2s as well. none of the other devices have this issue including poco f1, op6t, redmi note 5 pro. on my mix 2s, when i tried gcam, it was clicking much better pictures, especially in portrait mode. seems portrit mode uses the telephoto to click the image instead of using the main camera.
This is normal, telephoto is used for portrait shots. I recommend moving away from your subject when taking photos as portraits taken with a wide angle lens will distort your subject.
hmm.. waiting for gcam mod now. portrait as of now sucks.. the implementation is too poor.. wondering how the dxomark points were achieved.
billamin said:
hmm.. waiting for gcam mod now. portrait as of now sucks.. the implementation is too poor.. wondering how the dxomark points were achieved.
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Actually you can use the mi8 version
Works great
billamin said:
hmm.. waiting for gcam mod now. portrait as of now sucks.. the implementation is too poor.. wondering how the dxomark points were achieved.
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How stupid are you? That's the standard implementation(Not meaning it's necessarily better, although longer focal lengths are preferred for portraits.), the manufacturers not using a second camera with a longer equivalent focal length are the contrarians.
NickTheSickDick said:
How stupid are you? That's the standard implementation(Not meaning it's necessarily better, although longer focal lengths are preferred for portraits.), the manufacturers not using a second camera with a longer equivalent focal length are the contrarians.
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if i have raised this issue, i have some background to it. pls keep shaming to yourself. just like you said that this implementation might not be better, we can have an option to choose which camera to use for portraits. stupidity is turning blind eye to a genuine issue when it can be easily fixed.
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if i have raised this issue, i have some background to it. pls keep shaming to yourself. just like you said that this implementation might not be better, we can have an option to choose which camera to use for portraits. stupidity is turning blind eye to a genuine issue when it can be easily fixed.
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Actual mental impairment, right here.
rowihel2012 said:
Actually you can use the mi8 version
Works great
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thanks this helps a lot.
Hi everyone!
Which resolution do you use, 12 mpx or 20 mpx? 12mpx gives you hybrid zoom x2 but phone only uses rgb lens, while 20mpx supposedly uses both lenses to create a hybrid colour/b&w pic. So which do you use? I have it on 12mpx in order to use zoom but don't really know which is best.
Cheers!
It actually depends on your preference and the situation you want to create in the photo. I use the 20mp when shooting wide angle landscapes, while im using the 12mp when shooting portraits or closeups
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It actually depends on your preference and the situation you want to create in the photo. I use the 20mp when shooting wide angle landscapes, while im using the 12mp when shooting portraits or closeups
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Thanks for replying! I've actually found that shooting a normal close up pic on 12mpx shoots in kind of a wide-angle effect. Last friday celebrating carnival at school, I was able to fit in a whole class of 28 kids from a few feet away. If u look at the pic, it looks like it has been shot on a wide-angle lens!
Any more opinions on camera config are more than welcome!
I don't believe that the 20MPx option uses both cameras. When you partially cover the B&W sensor, there is no noticable effect on the photo. Looks like it is only software based up-scaling and may get you jagged edges sometimes. After some testing with 20MPx and then 20MPx resized to 12MPx just for comparison, I prefer the 12MPx default setting.
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I don't believe that the 20MPx option uses both cameras. When you partially cover the B&W sensor, there is no noticable effect on the photo. Looks like it is only software based up-scaling and may get you jagged edges sometimes. After some testing with 20MPx and then 20MPx resized to 12MPx just for comparison, I prefer the 12MPx default setting.
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Hi Marian, thanks for your reply!
So on a phone with a dual camera, what would be the purpose of the dual lens?? If one is rgb and the other monocrome, don't they both work together to provide depth information and zoom? Or do all colour pics use just the one rgb lens and the other is exclusively for b&w pics?? Seems a little pointless to me...
You are totally right about the sw upscale to 20mp as any other camera app only detects a maximum resolution of 12 mp, but it seems strange to me that even on 12mp colour pictutes, the phone wouldn't use both lens (depth and zoom) because the inferior P20 Lite precisely doess that on all the reviews I read about it (I've always thought that was the point of all dual-lens cameras).
Cheers!
The B&W sensor should provide depth information. You can try different camera modes and cover the B&W sensor. The phone says "Please do not cover the lenses." in some camera modes. But if you don't put finger too close, nothing happens. I can't tell it does anything at all to the image quality which seems strange. Did they made some mistake in latest build? It only does have some effect on aperture mode when you can see heat haze effect on display. It sucks we don't have more options like jpg quality or sliders for post-process filters.